[OFFICIAL] Hurley Signs Extension With URI

Essam · Unread post by **Essam** » 11 years ago

What time is the team meeting?

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 11 years ago

Yeah, very good point, ramfan85. All the more reason to not worry about Dan leaving (this season, at least).

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

Odd because Dan refers to Biruta almost exclusively.
Since they've known each other since St. Benedict's days
it seemed OK.
Now, tell me, how is Dan going to look Gil in the eye and say,
"Well, I'm going to Rutgers"?

Running Ram · Unread post by **Running Ram** » 11 years ago

I consider this perfect timing on all accounts, the Rutgers job is available at the right time, there's no way DH leaves for it now and this timing takes the Rutgers spot off the board for at least another two years. BH moves over to Buffalo and they get an invite to join the A10, BH and DH's teams battle head to head year in and out for Northeast supremacy. This continues for the better part of a decade and the Hurleys along with Smart help the A10 become the power conference in the east despite the catholic 7's best efforts to stop it from happening. The Hurleys take down the big least.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

I like your thinking RR!

Rossuri · Unread post by **Rossuri** » 11 years ago

My sources tell me Dan will accept the job unfortunately.
Why did my post get deleted? My sources are pretty reliable fwiw.

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Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 11 years ago

Facilities:
RAC: 7000, built in '77
Ryan Center: 7800, built in '02

NCAA history
RU: 6 apps, last in '91
URI: 8 apps, last in '99

Salary
Hurley makes more here than Rice did at RU

Prospects
RU: Bare cupboard, guaranteed to be no better than 8th in the Big 10 for the next 3-4 seasons
URI: Rebuild basically complete, big win totals, tops of the A10 and NCAA caliber program in next 2 seasons.

This isn't even a lateral move, it'd be a downward one.

Winning is most important to Hurley. Conferences don't mean what they used to in college basketball. Once you get into the tournament, seeding doesn't matter. All Hurley wants is to be in the tourney and win. He left Wagner because he realized he wouldn't be able to do it there.

URI is capable of being a wichita state, creighton, xavier, etc. A good size school, with good facilities, and the right coach can make that happen. That's what Hurley cares about.

Rutgers won't be that program.

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 11 years ago

Well said, RR and Blue Man.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

Hurley made is clear, ironically in his Cordischi interview, that
he sees conference influence being diminished and recruiting and coaching
being the keys to success in the parity of today's college basketball.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 11 years ago

Rossuri wrote:My sources tell me Dan will accept the job unfortunately.
Why did my post get deleted? My sources are pretty reliable fwiw.

So says the poster that just registered this morning and has but just this post.

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Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 11 years ago

RF1 wrote:
Rossuri wrote:My sources tell me Dan will accept the job unfortunately.
Why did my post get deleted? My sources are pretty reliable fwiw.

So says the poster that just registered this morning and has but just this post.

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My guess it's a PC troll trying to get us riled up.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

Watch for a flock of trolls coming here.
The clowns on the PC board brag about how they bomb the UConn board with crap.
They are beside themselves with joy over this Hurley to Rutgers talk.
Any new posters are probably trolling here.

RamJam · Unread post by **RamJam** » 11 years ago

Man this would suck. Do you think the fact that Bobby is no longer with him make him more apt to make the jump? I can see Rutgers as a lateral move at best right now, but the ceiling is a lot higher with the move to Big 10 and the A10 about to crumble.

Captainron@ · Unread post by **Captainron@** » 11 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Watch for a flock of trolls coming here.
The clowns on the PC board brag about how they bomb the UConn board with crap.
They are beside themselves with joy over this Hurley to Rutgers talk.
Any new posters are probably trolling here.

Not exactly. Many of the posts there want Hurley to stay. There are 3 (2 by the same person) posts in 4 pages that one could infer that are "besides themselves with joy". There are more posts here calling all PC fans idiots. There are times when lots of rocks start flying, and maybe it happens here, but no need to put gas on something that isn't a fire yet.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

There's a hell of a lot more than three. I love the personal attacks on me, despite the fact
that I haven't posted there since December.

scine20 · Unread post by **scine20** » 11 years ago

Steve Politi ‏@StevePoliti
Hearing that Pernetti has not been cleared to start the search for a new coach. What that means about his status, I do not know.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 11 years ago

I wouldn't want Pernetti conducting the coaching search by himself if I were Rutgers, that would be beyond crazy to give the guy the keys to the BMW right after he was a big part of it crashing right into a 35 foot redwood. If he is going to stay (and still that is up in the air), I would make sure he is conducting the process with a panel to make sure he has the same amount of influence as everyone else. How can you trust the guy to do the right thing?

scine20 · Unread post by **scine20** » 11 years ago

There is a 1 PM press conference at Rutgers, according to their message board.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

I'm thinking when the dust settles, he's be gone as will the school president.
13 faculty members calling for the president's resignation, and this is only
the beginning, as more questions than answers arise.
I wonder if the AD is also resigning at 1:00?

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 11 years ago

Yeah, and Dan Hurley wants to be a part of this?!!? Don't think so.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

No online event today, on Rutgers' athletics site.

scine20 · Unread post by **scine20** » 11 years ago

It was called off Rod.

RhodyNJ · Unread post by **RhodyNJ** » 11 years ago

Hearing from my buddies that follow RU closely that their confidence that Pernetti was safe has shifted in the last hour. The outside pressure to can everyone might start to have some effect. The press conference was going to be Pernetti talking about the whole situation so the fact that it was cancelled may be telling.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

Reports all over Twitter about Rutgers player, Judge declaring for the NBA. He just changed his mind.
Chaos in New Brunswick, NJ.
Looks like Pernetti might be the next one out the door.
So, follow the bouncing head.....they have to hire at least and AD, maybe a school president, before they can even begin to think about a basketball coach.
Can you say, QUAGMIRE?

15 Year Lurker · Unread post by **15 Year Lurker** » 11 years ago

A few reasons why I think he stays.

1) the next Rutgers coach is going to be on a very short leash after this Who would want to worry that if they yelled at a player the university might over react and make a statement.
2) the timing is not right. Biruta just came from there no way he would do that to him

Although money changes things but I don't see it happening and that place is a mess right now

Hope I'm right

Smokinjimit · Unread post by **Smokinjimit** » 11 years ago

Quagmire? Giggity giggity

No way he goes. It will take three seasons to turn it around there. He turns URI around next year. Worst case is that he leaves and Preston becomes coach. The guy can recruit with the best of them. It wouldn't be the end of he world if Preston was HC.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 11 years ago

Plus didnt they name an interim coach? To me naming an interim coach signifies they dont expect to be hiring a new coach in the very short term. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like if they planned on hiring a new coach within a few days they wouldnt bother naming an interim.

Captainron@ · Unread post by **Captainron@** » 11 years ago

I heard that both and AD and President are seriously on the hot seat and that no coaching decision can be made until those issues are sorted out.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 11 years ago

A PC guy is bringing down the whole school.
Adam,
i was thinking the same thing. They may just promote a coach from within for the upcoming season. Seems like they have bigger fish to fry.

URI_05 · Unread post by **URI_05** » 11 years ago

http://news.providencejournal.com/sport ... 8U.twitter

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 11 years ago

At the very least, it looks like trying to figure the Hurley stuff out right now might be futile. Could be weeks or months before they're even thinking about hiring a head coach.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 11 years ago

Dan's not going anywhere. Would like to have some confirmation just to suppress these rumors.

It IS nice to have our head coach be in the national sports news for GOOD reasons.

RhodyNJ · Unread post by **RhodyNJ** » 11 years ago

It's gonna be cool when in about 11 months from now we are talking about our first bid since 99 and who and where we are playing. We'll all say, "Man, remember that Rutgers week in April? - what a bunch of non sense that was!"

If you look at the history of Rutgers coaches - none of them were big names. Big names don't want to go there. It's clear they are a football school. I don't know why now (especially now) they think they can attract these big name coaches. I understand Dan's NJ ties are strong but if you hid the names of the schools and put all of the pros and cons as of today into side by side there is no way RU is more attractive.

I really think he stays (at least for another year or two) and proves he can get us to where he envisions the program. MAYBE this will lead to a Shaka situation where Dan gets a raise, more $ allocations for assistants and facilities and he will want to stay here for the long haul (fingers crossed).

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 11 years ago

Amazing how quickly things change. just a short while ago, it looked as if Dan would go.

Now we find out that Rutgers has not even asked for permission to talk with Dan.

Rutgers is shooting themselves- if they can't figure out "Quickly" what their plan of action is eg. prez, AD Coach QUICKLY, potential hires will lose interest.

There is no way that Dan can wait for Rutgers to come around and decide what their process is going to be and chance losing EC Hassam and whomever he is looking at for asst coach and the two remaining scholorships and he does not get the Rutgers offer.

If Rutgers drags their feet, Danny will have to pull the plug on a potential offer.

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 11 years ago

RhodyNJ wrote:It's gonna be cool when in about 11 months from now we are talking about our first bid since 99 and who and where we are playing. We'll all say, "Man, remember that Rutgers week in April? - what a bunch of non sense that was!"

If you look at the history of Rutgers coaches - none of them were big names. Big names don't want to go there. It's clear they are a football school. I don't know why now (especially now) they think they can attract these big name coaches. I understand Dan's NJ ties are strong but if you hid the names of the schools and put all of the pros and cons as of today into side by side there is no way RU is more attractive.

I really think he stays (at least for another year or two) and proves he can get us to where he envisions the program. MAYBE this will lead to a Shaka situation where Dan gets a raise, more $ allocations for assistants and facilities and he will want to stay here for the long haul (fingers crossed).

I agree, we all should not be so sure that if Danny stays and is successful he will leave.

Remember the first year of a family rellocation is the toughest by far, at some point RI could be home.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

Was told it was a players only meeting in the morning.
Woods is going with Bobby, Tirone becomes an assistant,
and his position will be replaced.
Hurley staying put.
Now, this is a new source to me, so I will wait to see how this plays out.
What happened to all the applicants that Dan was boasting about?

RhodyO · Unread post by **RhodyO** » 11 years ago

Is there still a team meeting today and what time? With all this stuff going on has that been cancelled the likes of the Rutgers press conf?

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 11 years ago

I wonder if WE can do something- a rally , probably too hard, how about a well written "family" letter to dan signed by 1000 or 2000 or

at the least, this would be great publicity, maybe affect him and maybe do good for the current and future recruits.

Can we get 1000-2000 signatures.???

What does everyone think?
Other ideas, we are involved, we should be able to impact the situation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 11 years ago

Sorry Rod Who is Tirone?

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 11 years ago

ramster wrote:Pressure now building for AD and president to be gone too. This is not over.
Do Mathews and Martin follow Hurley to Rutgers? Losing those two guys would devastate us no matter who uri gets as a new coach. Too late to replace them. I dont like how players can move with the coach with no penalty......opens up doors for unfairness with schools not only "recruiting" the coach but also part of his former schools recruiting class. URI gets screwed.

But would Matthews and Martin even be in the picture for URI if it wasn't for Hurley? Likely not. Recruits often "belong" to coaches more than to schools. The year before, Aaman got to come along, and Anderson, Fanning, and Mitchell never got to play for Hurley. It happens. There's a process for how all this goes and speaking prematurely does nothing to help, nor does demanding a public statement. People who need to know will know at the appropriate times.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 11 years ago

McRam wrote:Sorry Rod Who is Tirone?

I know Tirone is Director of Basketball Operations, but who is Woods?

Justns11 · Unread post by **Justns11** » 11 years ago

Ben Wood, director of player development

http://gorhody.com/sports/m-baskbl/2012 ... _mbb_staff

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 11 years ago

ace wrote:
ramster wrote:Pressure now building for AD and president to be gone too. This is not over.
Do Mathews and Martin follow Hurley to Rutgers? Losing those two guys would devastate us no matter who uri gets as a new coach. Too late to replace them. I dont like how players can move with the coach with no penalty......opens up doors for unfairness with schools not only "recruiting" the coach but also part of his former schools recruiting class. URI gets screwed.
But would Matthews and Martin even be in the picture for URI if it wasn't for Hurley? Likely not. Recruits often "belong" to coaches more than to schools. The year before, Aaman got to come along, and Anderson, Fanning, and Mitchell never got to play for Hurley. It happens. There's a process for how all this goes and speaking prematurely does nothing to help, nor does demanding a public statement. People who need to know will know at the appropriate times.

Mathews was in the picture via Preston before Hurley came on. The Hurleys sealed the deal.
But here is the problem I have with the process:

What happened when Mathews and Martin signed? Of course URI was out of scholarships and they stopped recruiting for these two slots. Then a Coaching offer comes up and the players are gone and it is too late to recruit because recruiting is over - all are scooped up.

Picture The AD at Minnesota:
Gets it down to 3 candidates: A, B and C
Looks at the attributes of each prospective Coach
After all of that is finished then it becomes what else differentiaites these 3 guys
B Is young, intelligent, lots of potential but has no 4A or 5A recruits coming in
C is old, runs a clean program, graduates everyone, has a "process", been to the dance 3 times in the past 10 years and 1 4A recruit coming in
A is young, average Coach but a good recruiter. He has 2 players 4A and 1 player 5A. The AD likes this. He asked Coach A if he thinks he can get 2 of these 3 to come with him - if so there is an extra $300K in it for you just because of these guys that come. If you get all 3 to come I'll make it $500K higher salary.

All 3 guys come with Coach A who gets the job. the guys former team is screwed.
Nobody has to sit out a year, they are eligible right away.

I don't like this................I think that after a certain date, make it up, March 1, then if anyone leaves no matter what then they have to sit out a year. I don't like how schools get hurt not only by the Coach leaving but sometimes even hurt more when he takes his recruits with him too. The old team isscrewed..

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 11 years ago

I agree, and the NCAA has shot themselves in the foot.

Their ruling used to be the logical "A player should sign with the school and not the coach."

Now it's, "Well we know they are supposed to sign with the school, but we understand the coach is the biggest part of that."

So how can you control recruiting and max exodus of players when you can't stand by your initial standards? If you believe in the ruling, then enforce it. If not, find a fair compromise. They abandoned it completely.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 11 years ago

I like the old system where players that commit have to sit out a year if they change their mind. it's a contract that should be honored. They might as well learn about honoring commitments at an early age.
That may make more players hold off on their LOI until the spring. This will make more good players available for teams that lose their coach.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 11 years ago

And then they can forget all about honoring commitments if they ever become coaches.

It's far from a perfect system, but I don't see the fairness in punishing a kid when the situation he thinks he's chosen is changed up on him.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 11 years ago

You're right, of course. But something has to be done. Too bad coaches aren't forced to honor their contracts (Fantasyland). We'll never see that day.
here's a thought: Billy should have been immediately eligible when he came here. He was coming to play for his father. After all, they let him play right away when he left to play for dad.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

OK, just watched the OTL.
There is going to be a NJ Legislative investigation that will
begin in two weeks.
Over 50 faculty members are calling for the AD to be fired.
18 want the president to resign.
They question why he never looked at the tapes until yesterday,
when they were around since the fall.
Andy Katz thinks Eddie Jordan is the frontrunner for the job, with a lot of people
lobbying for him to get it.
Of course, he mentioned Hurley.
Whatever the case is, nothing will happen anytime soon, because Pernetti likely will be gone
soon.
Oh, and there is something about a report that Pernetti presented, based on a PI, he hired. It was a sham, as the PI was affiliated with Rutgers law School.

Adam Zagoria ‏@AdamZagoria 5m
No active coaching search at Rutgers yet b/c Tim Pernetti & Pres Barchi are still dealing w/ their own business,multiple sources tell @SNYtv

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 11 years ago

Rutgers assistant Jimmy Martelli (son of Phil) has resigned, I guess before they can fire him.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 11 years ago

Had to resign to have any chance of saving his career. Coach Carr got out of there just in time. Nobody is going to want to wear the stench from this situation into a job interview.

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