'20 DC SG - Ishmael Leggett (Rhode Island Commit)
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Re: '20 DC SG - Ishmael Leggett (Rhode Island Commit)
Sounds like a great pick up. Athletic shooting guard, hard nose defender. Just what the doctor ordered.
I saw that he is an "efficient" scorer , but most other comments are about him finishing at the rim,
elite penetration, scoring through contact. Not much about his outside shot ,unless I missed it.
Any info on his shooting percentages? total and 3 point shot?
I saw that he is an "efficient" scorer , but most other comments are about him finishing at the rim,
elite penetration, scoring through contact. Not much about his outside shot ,unless I missed it.
Any info on his shooting percentages? total and 3 point shot?
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In 18 games including Pool Play and Peach Jam EYBL AAU:CHICO 78 wrote: ↑4 years ago Sounds like a great pick up. Athletic shooting guard, hard nose defender. Just what the doctor ordered.
I saw that he is an "efficient" scorer , but most other comments are about him finishing at the rim,
elite penetration, scoring through contact. Not much about his outside shot ,unless I missed it.
Any info on his shooting percentages? total and 3 point shot?
FT: 85-112 for 75.9%
3FG: 9-25 for 36%
FG: 96-199 for 48.2%
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Based on his videos, scouting reports and muscular build he clearly looks like more of a slashing/attack the paint kind of guard, vs a perimeter scorer. I think the low number of 3 pt shots vs his other shots (12.5% of total attempts based on EYBL stats) seems to also indicate that.
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Got a friend that’s been following DMV hoops for 30+ years. Here’s his take on the Leggett commit:
“It’s a nice pull. He’ll contribute immediately and he plays against the best talent so he’ll be fully prepared. He also goes to Cox’s HS so look out for that pipeline. He missed on Casey Morsell (UVA) last year who will be in the NBA but he’s well on his way w Leggett.”
I think a lot of this is known but interesting to consider potential pipeline angle.
“It’s a nice pull. He’ll contribute immediately and he plays against the best talent so he’ll be fully prepared. He also goes to Cox’s HS so look out for that pipeline. He missed on Casey Morsell (UVA) last year who will be in the NBA but he’s well on his way w Leggett.”
I think a lot of this is known but interesting to consider potential pipeline angle.
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Re: '20 DC SG - Ishmael Leggett (Rhode Island Commit)
He is a PG. He is a SG.bigappleram wrote: ↑4 years ago Based on his videos, scouting reports and muscular build he clearly looks like more of a slashing/attack the paint kind of guard, vs a perimeter scorer. I think the low number of 3 pt shots vs his other shots (12.5% of total attempts based on EYBL stats) seems to also indicate that.
As a comparison Jeff shot 62 threes his Soph yr in 34 games.
Leggett’s AAU team has six D1 20s including two highly ranked scorers.
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Yes seem a like a true combo guard. Love his build and his high shooting % and ability to finish with either hand seems to indicate he got a lot of buckets inside the 3 pt line. Built like a bull. Scouts also point to his high bball IQ which translates excellent for a lead guard/PG.
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Came out of retirement just for a moment to say that this is the greatest recruiting stretch in living memory. Quite the feather in the cap of Coach Cox.
I was going to say recruiting class but then I realized all of the stickies at the top of the page represent commitments from two years. But that's what I am referring two, that list at the top of the page is probably the most impressive I have ever seen by a URI coach, and that is saying something. These are exciting times indeed.
edit. Sorry, I meant Coach Cox, truly impressive job
I was going to say recruiting class but then I realized all of the stickies at the top of the page represent commitments from two years. But that's what I am referring two, that list at the top of the page is probably the most impressive I have ever seen by a URI coach, and that is saying something. These are exciting times indeed.
edit. Sorry, I meant Coach Cox, truly impressive job
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BAR, I agree with your assessment. The one thing about recruits for the DMV is that there are a ton of videos of actual games (edited to show scoring plays). Still it gives you a much better idea how a player plays than just watching highlight videos. One of the videos was St. Johns vs. Mcnamara with Mekhi Long which was interesting to watch, Watched several different videos of his games the last couple of days.bigappleram wrote: ↑4 years ago Based on his videos, scouting reports and muscular build he clearly looks like more of a slashing/attack the paint kind of guard, vs a perimeter scorer. I think the low number of 3 pt shots vs his other shots (12.5% of total attempts based on EYBL stats) seems to also indicate that.
Not really a true point guard for sure, and undersized as a two, especially for the way he plays. He gets most of his points at the rim at the high school level. Not sure how that will translate at the college level, which is why he think he had very limited power five interest. When he shoots a 3, he is basically wide open as people play off of him, or he gets it in transition. Scouting report for him says to play off of him and do not let him get into the paint. He still does in a pretty effective manner. An interesting throwback player in many ways, one that you do not see a lot of anymore. Curious to see how it plays out at the college level.
I am kind of old school in preferring a pure point guard to run the team. Neither leggett or Wood is that right now. So as a tandem, I kind of question the fit together. They both are combo guards and neither one is a very good outside shooter. If one was a pure point, or a pure shooter, I would see the fit.
Looking forward to see how he does this year as the two best players from last years team are gone. One is off to Virginia as previously mentioned, Casey Morsell. The other, Darius Maddox is transferring to Oak Hill and has verbally committed to Virginia Tech.
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First post , coming out of retirement?????????rhodyfan3000 wrote: ↑4 years ago Came out of retirement just for a moment to say that this is the greatest recruiting stretch in living memory. Quite the feather in the cap of Coach Cox.
I was going to say recruiting class but then I realized all of the stickies at the top of the page represent commitments from two years. But that's what I am referring two, that list at the top of the page is probably the most impressive I have ever seen by a URI coach, and that is saying something. These are exciting times indeed.
edit. Sorry, I meant Coach Cox, truly impressive job
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It's pretty common - people forget the username or password for their old account, and then, just make a new one.
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YesSGreenwell wrote: ↑4 years agoIt's pretty common - people forget the username or password for their old account, and then, just make a new one.
But what is confusing to me is that he is being thought of as a possible Friar guy. His initial post as having returned does not seem “Friarlike” to me. That was my point.
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Re: '20 DC SG - Ishmael Leggett (Rhode Island Commit)
I just wanted to voice an opinion that I think Coach Cox is doing a great job, way beyond my expectations for him. Some people claim to be great recruiters, David Cox really is a great recruiter. Just wow. This signing is the exclamation point. I think this kid and the other kid, Wood, are going to compliment each other very nicely.
Anyway, I flubbed the compliment by saying "feather in a cap to Coach Hurley" instead. I was thinking David Cox, pictured him in my head, and typed Dan's name instead, probably because he was the challenge question to get on the site and it was still fresh in my mind. My brain is admittedly "rusty" and I'm not sharp like I once was. It's a little embarrassing, to be honest.
I think Cox is doing a fantastic job. I've been reading the updates here right along, but I think I'll keep my comments sparing. I seem to offend people I have no intention of offending these days, not just here but all over (I'm not blaming blueram).
Anyway, I flubbed the compliment by saying "feather in a cap to Coach Hurley" instead. I was thinking David Cox, pictured him in my head, and typed Dan's name instead, probably because he was the challenge question to get on the site and it was still fresh in my mind. My brain is admittedly "rusty" and I'm not sharp like I once was. It's a little embarrassing, to be honest.
I think Cox is doing a fantastic job. I've been reading the updates here right along, but I think I'll keep my comments sparing. I seem to offend people I have no intention of offending these days, not just here but all over (I'm not blaming blueram).
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Re: '20 DC SG - Ishmael Leggett (Rhode Island Commit)
Me either. That’s why I asked the question. Somebody else said it and now looks like it was deleted.ramster wrote: ↑4 years agoYesSGreenwell wrote: ↑4 years agoIt's pretty common - people forget the username or password for their old account, and then, just make a new one.
But what is confusing to me is that he is being thought of as a possible Friar guy. His initial post as having returned does not seem “Friarlike” to me. That was my point.
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Me either. That’s why I asked the question. Somebody else said it and now looks like it was deleted.ramster wrote: ↑4 years agoYesSGreenwell wrote: ↑4 years agoIt's pretty common - people forget the username or password for their old account, and then, just make a new one.
But what is confusing to me is that he is being thought of as a possible Friar guy. His initial post as having returned does not seem “Friarlike” to me. That was my point.
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Could it be?
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Great interview by Chris.
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so happy this didn't drag on with all the P5 schools starting to circle. he also says all the right things - feeling really fortunate we landed him.
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Georgetown visited him the week before his announcement.
Cox didn’t want any surprises so he flew down and spent 3 hours with Ish the day before his announcement.
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Interesting he mentioned the beach as an attraction. I always thought that was overrated as a recruiting tool. Glad it was a factor this time. Have I ever said I love DiSano’s interviews?
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1. Va Tech
2. URI
3, Seton Hall
4. URI.
Great job by the staff!
2. URI
3, Seton Hall
4. URI.
Great job by the staff!
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Three places they go to dinner - Matunuck Oyster Bar, Coast Guard House & Newport overlooking the harbor/boats (not sure of restaurant name).
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Chop House too
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Great article it’s easy to root for a kid like Ish
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I presume the landing spots of the top 4 SGs.
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I differ with you 4diffs4Diffs wrote: ↑4 years agoBAR, I agree with your assessment. The one thing about recruits for the DMV is that there are a ton of videos of actual games (edited to show scoring plays). Still it gives you a much better idea how a player plays than just watching highlight videos. One of the videos was St. Johns vs. Mcnamara with Mekhi Long which was interesting to watch, Watched several different videos of his games the last couple of days.bigappleram wrote: ↑4 years ago Based on his videos, scouting reports and muscular build he clearly looks like more of a slashing/attack the paint kind of guard, vs a perimeter scorer. I think the low number of 3 pt shots vs his other shots (12.5% of total attempts based on EYBL stats) seems to also indicate that.
Not really a true point guard for sure, and undersized as a two, especially for the way he plays. He gets most of his points at the rim at the high school level. Not sure how that will translate at the college level, which is why he think he had very limited power five interest. When he shoots a 3, he is basically wide open as people play off of him, or he gets it in transition. Scouting report for him says to play off of him and do not let him get into the paint. He still does in a pretty effective manner. An interesting throwback player in many ways, one that you do not see a lot of anymore. Curious to see how it plays out at the college level.
I am kind of old school in preferring a pure point guard to run the team. Neither leggett or Wood is that right now. So as a tandem, I kind of question the fit together. They both are combo guards and neither one is a very good outside shooter. If one was a pure point, or a pure shooter, I would see the fit.
Looking forward to see how he does this year as the two best players from last years team are gone. One is off to Virginia as previously mentioned, Casey Morsell. The other, Darius Maddox is transferring to Oak Hill and has verbally committed to Virginia Tech.
I have seen Leggett play live against excellent competition 5 times.
Leggett can shoot and has a nice release. His 3FG % of 36% exceeded Timberlake and Maddox at 28.4% and 23.3% respectively.
In 18 games including Pool Play and Peach Jam Nike EYBL AAU for Leggett:
FT: 85-112 for 75.9%
3FG: 9-25 for 36%
FG: 96-199 for 48.2%
Timberlake
FT: 89-124 for 71.8%
3FG: 21-74 for 28.4%
FG: 110-237 for 46.4%
Maddox
FT: 62-77 for 80.5%
3FG: 10-43 for 23.3%
FG: 110-238 for 46.2%
76% FT shooting is good for Leggett. He has the potential to become an 80+ FT Shooter which is very good
On Team Durant he did not take so many 3’s because #35 ESPN Earl Timberlake and #93 ESPN Darius Maddox took so many.
Timberlake took a lot of bad looking 3’s and appears more of a scorer than shooter to me.
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Re: '20 DC SG - Ishmael Leggett (Rhode Island Commit)
Ramster, how many Assist did he have in AAU?
The games I watched of Team Durant Leggett was the starting PG. He started ahead of Ace Baldwin (VCU commit). Leggett was the 3rd or 4th scoring option. I see him as a PG at URI. Dowtin was a CG/SG in high school also. He transitioned to PG his Fr year very easily. I think Leggett’s high BB IQ and complete game will help him transition to a college PG.
The games I watched of Team Durant Leggett was the starting PG. He started ahead of Ace Baldwin (VCU commit). Leggett was the 3rd or 4th scoring option. I see him as a PG at URI. Dowtin was a CG/SG in high school also. He transitioned to PG his Fr year very easily. I think Leggett’s high BB IQ and complete game will help him transition to a college PG.
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Leggett had 45 assists in 18 games for 2.5 apg average
He seemed to play off the point in games I watched.
Anthony Cowan was the PG for St Johns when Dowtin played.
When Dowtin played at first at PG his Freshman year there were some very negative opinions of him playing PG. But Jeff showed an ever improving capability to handle the PG position. Jeff Even showed to be one of the top PGs nationally with a Top 3 A/TO ratio his Freshman and Sophomore years. Wonder how much, if any, time Jeff plays PG this year.
He seemed to play off the point in games I watched.
Anthony Cowan was the PG for St Johns when Dowtin played.
When Dowtin played at first at PG his Freshman year there were some very negative opinions of him playing PG. But Jeff showed an ever improving capability to handle the PG position. Jeff Even showed to be one of the top PGs nationally with a Top 3 A/TO ratio his Freshman and Sophomore years. Wonder how much, if any, time Jeff plays PG this year.
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Will be fun for Jeff to get to play against Cowan this year.ramster wrote: ↑4 years ago Leggett had 45 assists in 18 games for 2.5 apg average
He seemed to play off the point in games I watched.
Anthony Cowan was the PG for St Johns when Dowtin played.
When Dowtin played at first at PG his Freshman year there were some very negative opinions of him playing PG. But Jeff showed an ever improving capability to handle the PG position. Jeff Even showed to be one of the top PGs nationally with a Top 3 A/TO ratio his Freshman and Sophomore years. Wonder how much, if any, time Jeff plays PG this year.
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This HS Video has now gone viral. I know it’s football but it’s getting St Johns a slew of publicity.
Antwain Littleton is from the same St Johns College HS as Leggett, Dowtin and Cox
285 pound running back is only a Junior!
https://sports.yahoo.com/285-pound-d-c- ... 53954.html
Antwain Littleton is from the same St Johns College HS as Leggett, Dowtin and Cox
285 pound running back is only a Junior!
https://sports.yahoo.com/285-pound-d-c- ... 53954.html
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Re: '20 DC SG - Ishmael Leggett (Rhode Island Commit)
It is OK to have different opinions, and I will give you credit for bringing some reasons as to why you disagree. Many others post their opinions as facts, with nothing to back them up.ramster wrote: ↑4 years agoI differ with you 4diffs4Diffs wrote: ↑4 years agoBAR, I agree with your assessment. The one thing about recruits for the DMV is that there are a ton of videos of actual games (edited to show scoring plays). Still it gives you a much better idea how a player plays than just watching highlight videos. One of the videos was St. Johns vs. Mcnamara with Mekhi Long which was interesting to watch, Watched several different videos of his games the last couple of days.bigappleram wrote: ↑4 years ago Based on his videos, scouting reports and muscular build he clearly looks like more of a slashing/attack the paint kind of guard, vs a perimeter scorer. I think the low number of 3 pt shots vs his other shots (12.5% of total attempts based on EYBL stats) seems to also indicate that.
Not really a true point guard for sure, and undersized as a two, especially for the way he plays. He gets most of his points at the rim at the high school level. Not sure how that will translate at the college level, which is why he think he had very limited power five interest. When he shoots a 3, he is basically wide open as people play off of him, or he gets it in transition. Scouting report for him says to play off of him and do not let him get into the paint. He still does in a pretty effective manner. An interesting throwback player in many ways, one that you do not see a lot of anymore. Curious to see how it plays out at the college level.
I am kind of old school in preferring a pure point guard to run the team. Neither leggett or Wood is that right now. So as a tandem, I kind of question the fit together. They both are combo guards and neither one is a very good outside shooter. If one was a pure point, or a pure shooter, I would see the fit.
Looking forward to see how he does this year as the two best players from last years team are gone. One is off to Virginia as previously mentioned, Casey Morsell. The other, Darius Maddox is transferring to Oak Hill and has verbally committed to Virginia Tech.
I have seen Leggett play live against excellent competition 5 times.
Leggett can shoot and has a nice release. His 3FG % of 36% exceeded Timberlake and Maddox at 28.4% and 23.3% respectively.
In 18 games including Pool Play and Peach Jam Nike EYBL AAU for Leggett:
FT: 85-112 for 75.9%
3FG: 9-25 for 36%
FG: 96-199 for 48.2%
Timberlake
FT: 89-124 for 71.8%
3FG: 21-74 for 28.4%
FG: 110-237 for 46.4%
Maddox
FT: 62-77 for 80.5%
3FG: 10-43 for 23.3%
FG: 110-238 for 46.2%
76% FT shooting is good for Leggett. He has the potential to become an 80+ FT Shooter which is very good
On Team Durant he did not take so many 3’s because #35 ESPN Earl Timberlake and #93 ESPN Darius Maddox took so many.
Timberlake took a lot of bad looking 3’s and appears more of a scorer than shooter to me.
This is not a hill I want to die on, and I do not want to come across as criticizing a recruit, that in many ways, I like. My point was that in combination with Wood, I am not sure that I am a big fan of the pairing if we are thinking these guys are our future point guards. There skills do not seem to complement each other well. And I am concerned about our lack of shooting, which neither one of these signings really addresses. You may disagree, but no teams are running sets to get either one of these guys three point shots.
Don't take my word for it on his game, read his own words. They are almost identical with what I said on how he scores the ball. He shot 25 3 point shots in 18 games. And he shot those in transition, or wide open when the defense was playing off of him. Since he shot less than 1.5 a game, and they were often uncontested, I do not think the percentage tells you much. In today's basketball, any guard who is a good shooter is taking more than 1.5 three's a game. It is something that he needs to work on is all.
I like the player. If he can transition to the point, and become a consistent three point shooter, then he will be a very good player. He needs to grow into that role, he is not there yet.
And the other thing, maybe neither one of these guys ends up playing the point, certainly not immediately. In 2020-2021, you still have Russell and Shepard to run the point. Gives them a year to transition, and depending on how that goes, maybe they bring in a true point guard for 2021-2022. But we need to shoot the ball better than we did last year. It seems once again, to my eyes, we are emphasizing athleticism over skill.
I root for the team unconditionally. I want all of the recruits to work out. I hope both of these guys have great careers at URI. Nothing would please me more.
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Re: '20 DC SG - Ishmael Leggett (Rhode Island Commit)
Leggett will be a star here, if not right away he will be his last 2 years.
Like someone said, I think he will be as good if not better than Jeff after a couple of years.
Remember Jeff wasn't a pure PG when he came here. Leggett will go the same route and be successful at it.
Wood, if he pans out will be a 2.
Like someone said, I think he will be as good if not better than Jeff after a couple of years.
Remember Jeff wasn't a pure PG when he came here. Leggett will go the same route and be successful at it.
Wood, if he pans out will be a 2.
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Great AAU program Ish is coming from. Some alumni
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Ish started and was a key player on a deep team.
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Thanks for all the info and Chris's profile/interview. He comes across as a smart, capable and mature young man. And I LOVE his observations about Coach Cox being such a strong role model. Certainly bodes well for the future of our program!
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God I wish this kid was a '19 now, with the news of Sheppard
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