The 2019 Coaching Carousel

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Rhody Sody wrote: 5 years ago Why is Koch speculating about bama backing out? I’m sure that’s low on their priority list right now.
Because he wants to see the program suffer and will bring up anything negative about the team at any given time.
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Rhody15 wrote: 5 years ago
Rhody Sody wrote: 5 years ago Why is Koch speculating about bama backing out? I’m sure that’s low on their priority list right now.
Because he wants to see the program suffer and will bring up anything negative about the team at any given time.


Can they please not backout?

I hope we made the buyout more expensive at least.
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Rhody15 wrote: 5 years ago
Rhody Sody wrote: 5 years ago Why is Koch speculating about bama backing out? I’m sure that’s low on their priority list right now.
Because he wants to see the program suffer and will bring up anything negative about the team at any given time.
This is a bad take. Like him or not, it’s not Bill Koch’s job to be the PR director of URI (or for the Red Sox). It’s his job to report the facts. And I’m sure Koch wants URI to succeed. His job is better for him it it does. But he’s a reporter, not a fan boy. And he reports well.

That said, in this particular tweet he was answering a question directed at him.
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This seems like a really great hire for a not great program.


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steviep123 wrote: 5 years ago
Rhody15 wrote: 5 years ago
Rhody Sody wrote: 5 years ago Why is Koch speculating about bama backing out? I’m sure that’s low on their priority list right now.
Because he wants to see the program suffer and will bring up anything negative about the team at any given time.
This is a bad take. Like him or not, it’s not Bill Koch’s job to be the PR director of URI (or for the Red Sox). It’s his job to report the facts. And I’m sure Koch wants URI to succeed. His job is better for him it it does. But he’s a reporter, not a fan boy. And he reports well.

That said, in this particular tweet he was answering a question directed at him.

Answer me this.

Over the last 3 years, using your best guess, has Koch has more positive or negative tweets about the program?
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Rhody15 wrote: 5 years ago
steviep123 wrote: 5 years ago
Rhody15 wrote: 5 years ago

Because he wants to see the program suffer and will bring up anything negative about the team at any given time.
This is a bad take. Like him or not, it’s not Bill Koch’s job to be the PR director of URI (or for the Red Sox). It’s his job to report the facts. And I’m sure Koch wants URI to succeed. His job is better for him it it does. But he’s a reporter, not a fan boy. And he reports well.

That said, in this particular tweet he was answering a question directed at him.

Answer me this.

Over the last 3 years, using your best guess, has Koch has more positive or negative tweets about the program?
The question is irrelevant. It’s not his job!
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It’s official

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URI is likely to be facing several teams with new coaches next season:

Alabama
GW
St Joe's
LSU (assuming we meet in Jamaica)
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steviep123 wrote: 5 years ago
Rhody15 wrote: 5 years ago
steviep123 wrote: 5 years ago

This is a bad take. Like him or not, it’s not Bill Koch’s job to be the PR director of URI (or for the Red Sox). It’s his job to report the facts. And I’m sure Koch wants URI to succeed. His job is better for him it it does. But he’s a reporter, not a fan boy. And he reports well.

That said, in this particular tweet he was answering a question directed at him.

Answer me this.

Over the last 3 years, using your best guess, has Koch has more positive or negative tweets about the program?
The question is irrelevant. It’s not his job!
I agree with you, and also don’t really get the issue with Bill’s tweet about the impact of Avery Johnson being out at Bama. But, I would just point out that it isn’t Bill’s job to take veiled shots at the fan base and the program, either, which he has done on occasion. Overall, I like Bill’s coverage and I like Bill personally. Just worth noting that a lot of college sports media that are assigned to covering specific schools and programs are not exactly traditional journalists who commit to unequivocal objectivity, and do tend to take on a supportive voice; I’m not necessarily expecting that from Bill.
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Good points TP. That said all he mentioned is that Alabama was coming to Kingston next season then someone asked if he thought Bama would bail and he responded.
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Right, I don’t get the issue with his comments here, either.
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RF1 wrote: 5 years ago URI is likely to be facing several teams with new coaches next season:

Alabama
GW
St Joe's
LSU (assuming we meet in Jamaica)
Alabama and LSU having down years next year will really impact our OOC. Hope that is not the case.
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Ron Hunter leaving GA St to Tulane makes no sense.

He probably could've ended up at Bama!

3 NIT's and 1 tournament not enough for Bama people.

I feel like avery should've gotten more time.

Now they'll start from scratch and suck worse for a little while again.

Down years or not, cant imagine us getting someone better than LSU or Bama.
Wins over them are good by default for the most part.
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Wow Jason Kidd to Cal would be good for them
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reef wrote: 5 years ago Wow Jason Kidd to Cal would be good for them
Reef, I heard that Kidd doesn't have his degree. It would take considerable amount of course work before they would be able to hire him.
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Bos8 wrote: 5 years ago
reef wrote: 5 years ago Wow Jason Kidd to Cal would be good for them
Reef, I heard that Kidd doesn't have his degree. It would take considerable amount of course work before they would be able to hire him.
That is correct. Non starter. He wants to get into NBA coaching. Parrish tweeting without any research. The beauty of Twitter. Just throw shit out there.
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Oh wow good to know

Kidd to the Lakers could be a possibility

Not much tho report on the UNLV front they threw out JT3 name on the radio and mentioned the possibility of a mid major coach getting the job
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The worst kept secret.

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SmartyBarrett wrote: 5 years ago The worst kept secret.

Beat me to it...

Ace, no more awkwardness.
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Wow some decent jobs there

Carousel in full swing baby
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I was certain that win by Arkansas over providence solidified his job...
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ace wrote: 5 years ago
Tyson would love to coach at URI. He's interviewed before. Might be hard with TJ in line but imagine him working with Fatts and Sheppard.
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Iggy1979 wrote: 5 years ago
ace wrote: 5 years ago
Tyson would love to coach at URI. He's interviewed before. Might be hard with TJ in line but imagine him working with Fatts and Sheppard.
i think he could be an awesome recruiter too - imagine all his european connections along with his connections in the states.
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Luke Murray in the mix for Fairfield job.
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bkoeppen wrote: 5 years ago
Iggy1979 wrote: 5 years ago
ace wrote: 5 years ago
Tyson would love to coach at URI. He's interviewed before. Might be hard with TJ in line but imagine him working with Fatts and Sheppard.
i think he could be an awesome recruiter too - imagine all his european connections along with his connections in the states.

Wouldnt bother me one bit.
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Iggy1979 wrote: 5 years ago Luke Murray in the mix for Fairfield job.


EDIT: This tweet said Murray was no longer a candidate at Fairfield. But it's now deleted, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Ramulous wrote: 5 years ago I was certain that win by Arkansas over providence solidified his job...
Would Samson really leave Houston...for Arkansas?
Thinking top of P6 conference > bottom half of P5?
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That’s a good question I wonder how much more money Hogs can offer ???
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Wow- was not expecting this. Maybe some of those would-be transfers return to Alabama.

I always thought he would end up back “home” in Wisconsin or Michigan. Contract extensions really don’t mean much.

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ace wrote: 5 years ago

Not impressed. Went 93-113 as head coach at Navy for seven years. Just two winning seasons. I get that Navy is a tough gig but what leads anyone to think he can succeed at St Joe's in the A-10?

2004–05 Navy 10–18 5–9 T–6th
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Wow big news with Oats
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reef wrote: 5 years ago Wow big news with Oats
With the success he has had at Buffalo, it was only a matter of time. It seemed however that he was aiming only for a P5 job. The SEC, after a few down years, has really upped its hoops. It is not just UK and Florida anymore. SEC schools make so much money off football and tv deals that they can pay big bucks even for a basketball coach. He had been making a base of $600K which was to rise to $837K with his recent extension. His buyout clause should he leave has been decreasing. It was 1M a year ago but drops by $250k annually for this year and next with each subsequent season after dropping $100k. Alabama will only have to pay a buyout to Buffalo of $750K which is peanuts for them when they pay their football coach 8.3M/yr.
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ace wrote: 5 years ago Wow- was not expecting this. Maybe some of those would-be transfers return to Alabama.

I always thought he would end up back “home” in Wisconsin or Michigan. Contract extensions really don’t mean much.

Same here, surprised by this move. I thought that Oats would've ultimately moved on to more of a basketball school.
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RF1 wrote: 5 years ago
reef wrote: 5 years ago Wow big news with Oats
With the success he has had at Buffalo, it was only a matter of time. It seemed however that he was aiming only for a P5 job. The SEC, after a few down years, has really upped its hoops. It is not just UK and Florida anymore. SEC schools make so much money off football and tv deals that they can pay big bucks even for a basketball coach. He had been making a base of $600K which was to rise to $837K with his recent extension. His buyout clause should he leave has been decreasing. It was 1M a year ago but drops by $250k annually for this year and next with each subsequent season after dropping $100k. Alabama will only have to pay a buyout to Buffalo of $750K which is peanuts for them when they pay their football coach 8.3M/yr.
Alabama basketball is the same as Duke football.

Oats could've gotten a better profile job easily
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Da_Process_Survivor wrote: 5 years ago
Alabama basketball is the same as Duke football.
Not the same.

Alabama has appeared in the NCAA Tournament 21 times. It has reached the Sweet Sixteen eight times and the Elite Eight once in 2004. Alabama has an overall NCAA Tournament record of 21–20. It has sixteen NIT appearances with a record of 24–19. In the SEC, it trails only long-time basketball powerhouse Kentucky in basketball wins and SEC tournament titles.

Their basketball arena, Coleman Coliseum, is also to soon undergo an extensive $115 million renovation beginning after the 2021-22 season.
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Very good move by Alabama. And a solid addition to the SEC.
good also for the visit to the Ryan Center this year
Interesting I had seen a lot of names mentioned for Alabama but not Oats.
I know his family was happy with a Buffalo but he had mentioned a year ago that things could change in one more year, seeming to indicate that this could be the year he moves.
Going out at the top too. Buffalo had a very good year!
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Good for Nate, I guess. Secure the bag and all that. But yuck, in general I don’t think much of Alabama as a basketball program. Plus it has the misfortune of being in Alabama. For whatever reason, I think it makes it less likely that they don’t play the game in Kingston next year which would be kind of cool, I guess.
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Seems like a good move by both parties

Does anyone know how much money he got ??

SEC is on the rise as a hoop conference this year after a couple down years .
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Da_Process_Survivor wrote: 5 years ago
RF1 wrote: 5 years ago
reef wrote: 5 years ago Wow big news with Oats
With the success he has had at Buffalo, it was only a matter of time. It seemed however that he was aiming only for a P5 job. The SEC, after a few down years, has really upped its hoops. It is not just UK and Florida anymore. SEC schools make so much money off football and tv deals that they can pay big bucks even for a basketball coach. He had been making a base of $600K which was to rise to $837K with his recent extension. His buyout clause should he leave has been decreasing. It was 1M a year ago but drops by $250k annually for this year and next with each subsequent season after dropping $100k. Alabama will only have to pay a buyout to Buffalo of $750K which is peanuts for them when they pay their football coach 8.3M/yr.
Alabama basketball is the same as Duke football.

Oats could've gotten a better profile job easily
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... head-coach

Buy out is higher at $750k because He signed an extension recently a couple of weeks ago
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Why not stay at buffalo and be the guy that made buffalo great?

Take the money and play second fiddle to Nick Saban and football.
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