General Recruiting Discussion/Comments 2022 and before

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Had a nice discussion with Dan Hurley at halftime of Montverde game. He was there with two Assistants watching Precious

Moore and Kimani

You could’ve been on tv if you timed your conversation right!

bwerner10 · Unread post by **bwerner10** » 5 years ago

I have no knowledge of this happening, but Thompson is a graduate transfer candidate, potentially further hurting depth at the guard position

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Thompson is just way too inconsistent for the team to count on.

If he stays next season, his minutes will be reduced for sure.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 5 years ago

Thompson had at least 3 huge plays in tonight's game.

A pair of charges and the dish to Martin for the reverse....

We may not have confidence in him but Cox clearly still does

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

bwerner10 wrote: ↑5 years ago I have no knowledge of this happening, but Thompson is a graduate transfer candidate, potentially further hurting depth at the guard position

He has been the biggest disappointment on this year’s team
Finally cox put Martin in
Tate should play before Thompson and he’s just a Freshman
He should explore options in a lesser conference with Martin and Tate progressing upward next year
Cox having so much faith in Thompson is a mystery

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

CT can make plays but he's just too darn inconsistent.

With the frosh coming on that's not going to cut it.

100% effort 100% of the time would help. But is it enough?

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

His defense is inconsistent. The current freshmen and the incoming talent will not allow Thompson playing time next year - unless he makes some quick improvement

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Thompson gets PT because there just isn't a lot of depth at the 2 guard position.

That likely will change if Hammond is as good as it seems.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

PCs only recruit for next year is out for the remainder of the season

https://wccg1045fm.com/2019/01/19/trini ... g-surgery/

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 5 years ago

CT gets playing time in games like that because we just don't have a ton of experience, it is tough to roll with 3 freshmen in a high level game like that for the duration of crunch time. They are fatigued, they are nervous, it's their first time in those situations. There is such a clear role for him to play. That said, and while his charge call was a huge play, he also had a careless turnover when VCU was making their run that was due to lack of focus. "Jump to the ball" is taught at 3rd grade level, he failed to do so and had a VCU player come from behind and steal it and score. To me, at times, he just seems a bit lacksadaisical out there, don't know what it is.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 5 years ago

Think I’ve asked this before.... is URI, Bryant or PC in on Keegan Records?

Looks like he played pretty strong against stiff competition the other night?

Anybody? Is there a placeholder anywhere?

UCH21377 · Unread post by **UCH21377** » 5 years ago

Think I read Binghamton somewhere.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

I thought I saw Massoud and a bunch of other kids there last night. Was the Mac Duffie team there watching Dana?

Dino611 · Unread post by **Dino611** » 5 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago I thought I saw Massoud and a bunch of other kids there last night. Was the Mac Duffie team there watching Dana?

Yes Macduffie was there was walking to the bathroom and saw a big group of guys with Macduffie sweatshirts on

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 5 years ago

MacDuffie was there as a group.....we are recruiting Richard Springs....Bouknight and Massoud were former targets that go to school there....assuming they were at the prep tourney in Providence

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 5 years ago

Yes, it’s his brother. Interesting that they’re offering a ‘19.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

This happened to have happened in football, but don’t think it couldn’t have just as easily been basketball. To answer the question that many here have proposed: do scouting services actually watch and evaluate every player they rank, or just go by offers:

https://awfulannouncing.com/online-outl ... nking.html

josephski · Unread post by **josephski** » 5 years ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑5 years ago This happened to have happened in football, but don’t think it couldn’t have just as easily been basketball. To answer the question that many here have proposed: do scouting services actually watch and evaluate every player they rank, or just go by offers:

https://awfulannouncing.com/online-outl ... nking.html

Bob Knight did it back in the day with "Ivan Renko".

Either way from reading posts here what I've gathered is that rankings don't matter unless of course we land a top 100/4 star recruit or end up with the best recruiting class in the A10.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 5 years ago

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 5 years ago

Why don't we seem to be involved with Preston Murphy Jr.? He's ranked 85th in the 2021 class and is ranked the 16th best point guard with offers from Buffalo and UNLV and Iowa, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Penn State, and Purdue have all seemed to have some level of interest in him. Obviously his father played and coached here, plus he played on the Ryan Center court as a kid, I have to think that couldn't hurt in his recruitment. I know it's kind of early, but we're already on other 2021's and you don't want to squander any advantages we might have by jumping in late

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Prest ... Interests/

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 5 years ago

Gotta think PMJ will go wherever his dad is coaching, dont you?

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 5 years ago

Team needs another guard badly for 19.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 5 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote: ↑5 years ago Team needs another guard badly for 19.

Truly believe we will get a graduate transfer or a JUCO.

UCH21377 · Unread post by **UCH21377** » 5 years ago

Hope so DC agree we need one pretty bad. Really could have used one for this year obviously; water under the bridge.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 5 years ago

UCH21377 wrote: ↑5 years ago Hope so DC agree we need one pretty bad. Really could have used one for this year obviously; water under the bridge.

We were playing behind the 8 ball the time we had assistants identified. Staff was in flux...hard to get commitments from kids without program stability.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

How much does this bad year and the current crappiness of the A10 affect our recruiting for '20 and '21? As stated, our #1 goal is a top PG for '20. Will we still be in the running for one like Martin with the current state of the team and league?

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 5 years ago

URI won't be able to consistently get to the tournament without impact transfers. Take KI and Stan off those teams and ... Walker looks like he can be one. Now that they need a guard transfer.
Hurley and staff swung and missed when they brought in Ryan Preston. They had minutes available on an NCAA team and should have done better. That would be paying big dividends right now.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 5 years ago

I feel like the A10 can do well with regular transfers. Get those guys who aimed a little too high with their initial commitments and pick them up when they opt out. Grad transfers, IMO, can be tougher. The guys from lower level schools who are really good and who could make a significant contribution tend to jump over conferences like the A10. Might feel a little nervous if they’re counting on the grad transfer route, unless there is already an existing relationship with a player.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

Ty is in DC today. Who is he watching?

rhodyblue12 · Unread post by **rhodyblue12** » 5 years ago

This is kind of random, but is Tyrone Weeks' son TJ a Division 1 player?
He scored 37 pts including 8 threes the other day for Woodstock Academy.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 5 years ago

Ty is in DC for a slew of championship games in the DC area today. Have quite a few DC kids on the radar. Pretty sure he is just showing face and going to check in on Mehki.

Bos8 · Unread post by **Bos8** » 5 years ago

rhodyblue12 wrote: ↑5 years ago This is kind of random, but is Tyrone Weeks' son TJ a Division 1 player?
He scored 37 pts including 8 threes the other day for Woodstock Academy.

When I last saw him this summer thought he was, but I didn't think he is on our level.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Bos8 wrote: ↑5 years ago
rhodyblue12 wrote: ↑5 years ago This is kind of random, but is Tyrone Weeks' son TJ a Division 1 player?
He scored 37 pts including 8 threes the other day for Woodstock Academy.

When I last saw him this summer thought he was, but I didn't think he is on our level.

I watched Tyrone play way back when he was a freshman at Pilgrim HS
I personally think he can play D1 because he can shoot FTs and 3FGs. Evidenced by his hitting 8 3FGs in this latest game.
National Prep Championships are this week at Connecticut College in New London. Will be interesting to see how Woodstock does in this Tournament and if Tyrone can up his status in the recruiting world.
Obi Toppin certainly has shown that the Recruiting gurus can and do miss

https://www.prepcircuit.com/news_article/show/998387

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

I saw Weeks play for Hendricken. I believe he was playing center for them. Is he playing away from the basket now?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

I just have a feeling we are going to like this recruiting class.

Hammond, Long, and the transfer Walker will really help our depth.

As for Mading, if he's the shooter that we hope he is, for a guy almost 7 feet making 3 pt. shots that will be a HUGE game changer in a league like the A10.

sandman012 · Unread post by **sandman012** » 5 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago I just have a feeling we are going to like this recruiting class.

Hammond, Long, and the transfer Walker will really help our depth.

As for Mading, if he's the shooter that we hope he is, for a guy almost 7 feet making 3 pt. shots that will be a HUGE game changer in a league like the A10.

given how this year's freshman struggled to be consistently impactful, I don't have those same good feelings.

With some improvement in coaching and freshman (soph next year) play, we will still struggle to make NIT

Everyone was expecting NCAA next year prior to this. That seems a VERY big stretch on current trajectory.

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 5 years ago

sandman012 wrote: ↑5 years ago
rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago I just have a feeling we are going to like this recruiting class.

Hammond, Long, and the transfer Walker will really help our depth.

As for Mading, if he's the shooter that we hope he is, for a guy almost 7 feet making 3 pt. shots that will be a HUGE game changer in a league like the A10.
given how this year's freshman struggled to be consistently impactful, I don't have those same good feelings.

With some improvement in coaching and freshman (soph next year) play, we will still struggle to make NIT

Everyone was expecting NCAA next year prior to this. That seems a VERY big stretch on current trajectory.

Difference is, these freshman WILL be better next year and we keep our big 3.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

URI has had back to back #1 ranked recruiting classes in the league, per 247’s rankings. Even though no individual freshman broke out this year, I’m still optimistic about the class as a whole. Next year’s class may not have one guy that is instantly a star, either (although you never know), but assuming at least one or two of the true frosh can contribute something and Walker is a solid rotation player, the team will be more experienced on the court and on the bench, and importantly much deeper.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 5 years ago

Here’s hoping one of these recruits turns into Ja Morant.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 5 years ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑5 years ago URI has had back to back #1 ranked recruiting classes in the league, per 247’s rankings. Even though no individual freshman broke out this year, I’m still optimistic about the class as a whole. Next year’s class may not have one guy that is instantly a star, either (although you never know), but assuming at least one or two of the true frosh can contribute something and Walker is a solid rotation player, the team will be more experienced on the court and on the bench, and importantly much deeper.

The level of recruit in the A10 is quite interesting. If you look at all committed players for 2019 at this point, here are their 24/7 rankings ...

204 - Gregory Hammond (URI)
236 - Mekhi Long (URI)
286 - Maceo Austin (Duquesne)
291 - Justin Winston (St. Bonaventure)
297 - Terrence Hargrove Jr (St Louis)
299 - Jarren McAllister (VCU)
318 - Moulaye Sissoko (Dayton)
322 - Chase Paar (George Washington)
331 - Jalen Thomas (UMASS)
332 - Yuri Collins (St Louis)
344 - Marial Mading (URI)
353 - Joel Soriano (Fordham)
360 - Brandon Stone (LaSalle)
389 - Gibson Jimerson (St. Louis)
397 - Christian Ray (LaSalle)
401 - Preston Santos (UMASS)
432 - Xavier Johnson (George Mason)
443 - Josh Oduro (George Mason)
449 - Hakim Hart (St. Joseph's)
UNR - John Buggs III (UMASS)
UNR - Jamison Battle (George Washington)

It's why URI is setup for the long-term with steady recruiting. Even a class many considered "down" with missed recruits is out-performing their peers and it's really not that close.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 5 years ago

Matt Painter had some great quotes on the margin of error with recruits ranked outside the Top 20. Basically said something similar to what Dan said, that there is huge variability with guys ranked 21-200. And that many many mistakes are made in assessing talent.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 5 years ago

The reality is that recruits ranked 21-25 are likely to be better over four years than recruits ranked 71-75 who are likely to better over four years than recruits ranked 196-200. But it’s based on averages. Recruit #71 could be a player with “potential” who never develops. But overall, that range is likely to play more meaningful minutes on more meaningful teams. But even more important than that is what are you doing in comparison to your peers. The fact that URI is starting to consistently out-recruit it’s peers should have the team in the position to consistently compete for A10 titles. It’s not a gaurantee, but it gets back to the averages - the better the average recruiting ranking, the higher probability of a successful careers, the higher probability of team success. And I think it played out that way with URI the last 5 years - who were their top 3 players? Mathews, Terrell, Martin. Who were their top 4 year recruits? Mathews, Terrell, Martin. I think it even held true with transfers - weren’t Robinson and Iverson former top 100 recruits? Maybe not seen as such when they transferred, I think they played like it during their respective time.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

Wow this is some serious bad news for the A10 based on these recruiting rankings

To not have 1 player ranked in the top 200 is a joke

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 5 years ago

A lot of guys surpass their rankings......how many teams would take Obi Toppin or Jeff Dowtin now? It ain't the end of the world...The top 6 conferences get the majority of the top 200

UCH21377 · Unread post by **UCH21377** » 5 years ago

Maybe not but I feel the A10 is losing ground to other conferences in that next tier. Specifically the AAC

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑5 years ago URI has had back to back #1 ranked recruiting classes in the league, per 247’s rankings. Even though no individual freshman broke out this year, I’m still optimistic about the class as a whole. Next year’s class may not have one guy that is instantly a star, either (although you never know), but assuming at least one or two of the true frosh can contribute something and Walker is a solid rotation player, the team will be more experienced on the court and on the bench, and importantly much deeper.

It is disappointing that Rhody didn’t have any of their freshmen on the All Fr Team.
You have to say that Harris’ freshmen year has been a disappointment. He didn’t improve from the beginning of the year.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

Martin showed really good potential then regressed in the last 8 games

This class definitely undersachieved in their rookie years based on what we thought

RhodyKyle · Unread post by **RhodyKyle** » 5 years ago

Harris has been hurt and playing through a painful injury all year. Remember what everyone said about Cyril's play on this board last year as he played through his hernia? Look at Cyril now as he has been healthy all year. Let's see what Harris can do next year when he is fully recovered.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Not only that, Martin has a knee issue and Tate has the infected toe.

Both will be better next season also.

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