Future A-10 Tournament Sites

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

The A-10 has confirmed the future sites for its men's basketball tournament after its current three year deal in Brooklyn at the Barclay's Center is up. The conference will return to Washington DC in 2022 and then be back in Brooklyn for 2023 and 2024 per ESPN reports.

Atlantic 10 men's tournament confirms sites for 2022-24
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... es-2022-24

A-10 Tournament Sites
2019 Brooklyn
2020 Brooklyn
2021 Brooklyn
2022 Washington DC
2023 Brooklyn
2024 Brooklyn

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 5 years ago

No issues with this. It should be in Brooklyn, DC, and Philadelphia every year

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

I still say Mohegan should get a future A10 tourney....perfect size venue for it, plus so much else to do.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Good news. Like Washington DC for 2022 as well.
Love being scheduled and committed 6 years out

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

This is excellent news!

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 5 years ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑5 years ago No issues with this. It should be in Brooklyn, DC, and Philadelphia every year

Nah Philly should be out, we have a perfect rotation.

Philly isn't walkable - sports complex is wicked far away from where you'd stay or go out.

Brooklyn is great for obvious reasons, DC was probably my favorite venue - a ton to do outside of basketball and extremely doable on foot.

URI96 · Unread post by **URI96** » 5 years ago

Providence would be perfect for this event.

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 5 years ago

URI96 wrote: ↑5 years ago Providence would be perfect for this event.

You should use the sarcasm font.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 5 years ago

https://www.philly.com/college-sports/p ... 90227.html

The Ivy League tournament will be held at Columbia in 2025, a year we don't currently have a host city for the A10 tournament yet. Should we look to play at The Palestra that year?

URI96 · Unread post by **URI96** » 5 years ago

Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑5 years ago
URI96 wrote: ↑5 years ago Providence would be perfect for this event.
You should use the sarcasm font.

Why? Just look at how well it hosts the NCAA basketball and hockey tournament games.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Mohegan. Perfect size, tons to do.

They host many other tournaments and games along with the WNBA and other sports.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

Didn't the Dunk put in a bid to host the A10 for one of the last two years? One might scoff b/c it's PC's and a big east's teams home court, but so what? It's the closest arena that could host. I'd love to see it there or at Mohegan one year. That said, I'd be just as happy to keep alternating between Brooklyn and DC.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 5 years ago

It's never going to be in Providence or Mohegan and it really shouldn't be. The goal is to get the tournament in a centrally located area and every now and then throw the western teams a crumb. New York has significantly more to do for everyone than Mohegan Sun, which is really just fun for gamblers, and is just as easy for us and UMass to get to as NYC. And Providence is not on the same level as NYC, DC, or Philly

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

I personally think anyone that attended an A-10 Tournament in Providence would enjoy their visit. The venue and city size are more appropriate than NBA/NHL arenas in huge metros where the event gets lost. The problem with Providence is that the two closest programs do not typically bring the biggest crowds to this tournament. With Providence being far from most of the league members, there is major doubt it would draw well. While I don't think it a bad option to try once or twice when either NYC or DC is unavailable and might help grow A-10 interest in New England, I don't think the league and its members will ever let it happen. They for the most part could care less about URI and New England. They have proved that time and again by having the tournament on multiple occasions in places such as Dayton, Pittsburgh, and Cincinnati while never once having it anywhere in New England (the home of two of the longest tenured league members). The fact that Providence with URI being the top team in the league could not get it at least once in the previous two years when it unexpectedly got bounced from Brooklyn is evidence of that.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

What about Worcester or Boston?

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 5 years ago

Worcester?

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 5 years ago

.......Boston?

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑5 years agoWorcester?

I know Worcester well and took in the Holy Cross game there this past December. The DCU Center is now old and tired. The downtown around the arena offers a fraction of what Providence does. I was there the last time the men's basketball NCAA Tournament was held there back in 2005. The arena and city could not handle it. Got seated right away at a restaurant on Shrewsbury St between the Friday sessions. Selected meals soon after arriving but did not get our food until nearly two hours later as the kitchen could not process so many orders all at once. This caused my group to miss the beginning of the Vermont-Syracuse game. Teams in the pod were staying in hotels as far away as Marlboro and Westboro as there were not enough hotel rooms near the arena. NCAA hoops has never been back to the city and there is good reason.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

Thanks...if not Providence, I was making suggestions in New England. That said, I'm more than happy with Brookly/DC continuing.

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 5 years ago

steviep123 wrote: ↑5 years ago Didn't the Dunk put in a bid to host the A10 for one of the last two years? One might scoff b/c it's PC's and a big east's teams home court, but so what? It's the closest arena that could host. I'd love to see it there or at Mohegan one year. That said, I'd be just as happy to keep alternating between Brooklyn and DC.

That floor. Those banners. Barf.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 5 years ago

Portland, ME

rhodyrudder · Unread post by **rhodyrudder** » 5 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑5 years ago Portland, ME

Wtf?

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 5 years ago

Montreal? Greenland?

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 5 years ago

The city of Providence cannot meet the guarantee requirements the A10 demands of the host venue.....

Taylor Swift · Unread post by **Taylor Swift** » 5 years ago

rhodyrudder wrote: ↑5 years ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑5 years ago Portland, ME
Wtf?

Portland is a total hipster city. Has great food.

luke · Unread post by **luke** » 5 years ago

Loved DC , hate Brooklyn. Too expensive and difficult to get to . with DC you can stay outside of the city and take the trains .
We did it and also toured all the wonderful museums and had a great time without it costing a fortune . hotels in the nearby suburbs
are half the price of anything decent in Brooklyn . I don't plan on going to any of the games ever in Brooklyn .
It is easier for me to drive to Kingston from NJ than to get to Brooklyn . Hotels plus hotel parking fees are ridiculous, and if you want
to drive to a game from NJ parking anywhere within 1/2 mile is like $ 45 if you can even find a spot. Would like to hear from those who
have stayed in NY about where they stayed, the cost and parking fees etc. i am hoping there are alternatives I have overlooked because
I have really enjoyed the tournaments in Atlantic city , Pittsburgh and Washington DC and didn't have to spend $300 a night including
hotel parking . Pittsburgh and DC were very reasonable a few miles outside of the city and Atlantic city we could get cheap prices in the casinos.

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 5 years ago

Ramulous wrote: ↑5 years ago The city of Providence cannot meet the guarantee requirements the A10 demands of the host venue.....

.......just asking, what are those requirements?

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

Ramulous wrote: ↑5 years ago The city of Providence cannot meet the guarantee requirements the A10 demands of the host venue.....

What are the requirements?

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

Taylor Swift wrote: ↑5 years ago
rhodyrudder wrote: ↑5 years ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑5 years ago Portland, ME
Wtf?
Portland is a total hipster city. Has great food.

Great food and a myriad of great breweries! Rising Tide, Bissell Brothers, Maine Beer Company, to name a few.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 5 years ago

Anyone who has been to Providence for the NCAA Tournament would know what a great city it is to host the NCAA Tournament, and could easily meet the slightly lesser demand from the A10 Tournament. The main concern is real -- Geographically Providence does not quite make sense, nor does it offer the allure of saying Brooklyn, Pittsburgh, Philly, Washington D.C., etc. But what it does offer is a community that cares. The city set up the outdoor beer gardens which were always packed, there are plenty of accommodations in Providence or surrounding areas, all within easy distance there is the mall, and plenty of quality restaurants and entertainment. You can get to any quality location within a 5 minute uber/walk. The airport is 10 minutes away. And if the weather is nice, people could choose to explore Newport, Narragansett, take the trip to Boston, etc. Maybe I'm biased, but having been to an NCAA Tournament in Philadelphia, and been to an NCAA Tournament in Providence, I would choose to go to Providence 100 out of 100 times.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 5 years ago

luke wrote: ↑5 years ago Loved DC , hate Brooklyn. Too expensive and difficult to get to . with DC you can stay outside of the city and take the trains .
We did it and also toured all the wonderful museums and had a great time without it costing a fortune . hotels in the nearby suburbs
are half the price of anything decent in Brooklyn . I don't plan on going to any of the games ever in Brooklyn .
It is easier for me to drive to Kingston from NJ than to get to Brooklyn . Hotels plus hotel parking fees are ridiculous, and if you want
to drive to a game from NJ parking anywhere within 1/2 mile is like $ 45 if you can even find a spot. Would like to hear from those who
have stayed in NY about where they stayed, the cost and parking fees etc. i am hoping there are alternatives I have overlooked because
I have really enjoyed the tournaments in Atlantic city , Pittsburgh and Washington DC and didn't have to spend $300 a night including
hotel parking . Pittsburgh and DC were very reasonable a few miles outside of the city and Atlantic city we could get cheap prices in the casinos.

I stayed in/near Time Square and the rate was like 75 or 90 before all the fees and taxes. I also didn't have a car. Took the train. I found it to be not bad and manageable.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

While I've been to a few A10 tourneys, I've never been to an NCAA....I would love to go one day.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

I did go to the A10 in Brooklyn in 2015. We stayed in Brooklyn at a Best Western or something similar a few train stops away. My wife has some family that lives in Manhattan so we ended up going into Manhattan a couple of times outside of the games. It actually would have been better to stay in Manhattan which is what we'll do next time we go. With a 3 year old and a 5 month old, that probably won't happen for a few years....though my non Rhody basketball goal is to do the 5 Borough Ride in May 2020. It's a roughly 50 mile bike ride that touches all 5 boroughs of NYC.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

steviep123 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Ramulous wrote: ↑5 years ago The city of Providence cannot meet the guarantee requirements the A10 demands of the host venue.....
What are the requirements?

I think one of the issues for Providence was that it was not willing to GUARANTEE the same revenue stream to the A-10 that other sites were willing to do. Sponsorships help but attendance likely either makes or breaks the tournament from a revenue perspective. Many factors which cannot be controlled affect attendance. I don't think Providence wanted to assume all the risk.

luke · Unread post by **luke** » 5 years ago

Philadelphia would be great . You can stay in NJ very reasonably and if the games are at the Wells Fargo Center, there is plenty of parking at more reasonable prices and hotels are only 15- 20 minute ride away. You certainly can walk Philadelphia to see the Liberty Bell and Independence Hall and
Parking isn't so much if you want to see the art Museum or the Franklin Institute science museum and of course plenty of restaurants . Don't like
the advantage it gives St. Joes or Lasalle though.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

luke wrote: ↑5 years ago Philadelphia would be great . You can stay in NJ very reasonably and if the games are at the Wells Fargo Center, there is plenty of parking at more reasonable prices and hotels are only 15- 20 minute ride away. You certainly can walk Philadelphia to see the Liberty Bell and Independence Hall and
Parking isn't so much if you want to see the art Museum or the Franklin Institute science museum and of course plenty of restaurants . Don't like
the advantage it gives St. Joes or Lasalle though.

The tournament didn't do particularly well when it was in Philadelphia. And that was when there three schools, including the large public Temple. Both of the remaining Philly A-10 members SJU and LaSalle are small schools. Furthermore, there is not a good venue in the city for the tournament. The Wells Fargo Center is far too large and located in an unappealing section of the city far from downtown. The historic Palestra, with nearly all bleacher style seating, does not have the amenities needed today for a multi day tournament.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

RF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
luke wrote: ↑5 years ago Philadelphia would be great . You can stay in NJ very reasonably and if the games are at the Wells Fargo Center, there is plenty of parking at more reasonable prices and hotels are only 15- 20 minute ride away. You certainly can walk Philadelphia to see the Liberty Bell and Independence Hall and
Parking isn't so much if you want to see the art Museum or the Franklin Institute science museum and of course plenty of restaurants . Don't like
the advantage it gives St. Joes or Lasalle though.
The tournament didn't do particularly well when it was in Philadelphia. And that was when there three schools, including the large public Temple. Both of the remaining Philly A-10 members SJU and LaSalle are small schools. Furthermore, there is not a good venue in the city for the tournament. The Wells Fargo Center is far too large in located in an unappealing section of the city far from downtown. The historic Palestra, with nearly all bleacher style seating, does not have the amenities needed today for a multi day tournament.

I did go to the A10 tourneys at the Palestra in both 1992 and 1993. What a great place to watch a game. Saw St. Joes play Temple both years and that was a lot of fun. Temple pulled away both times, but it was a fun atmosphere!

KevanBoyles · Unread post by **KevanBoyles** » 5 years ago

What does the train cost from Prov to NYC?

Taylor Swift · Unread post by **Taylor Swift** » 5 years ago

KevanBoyles wrote: ↑5 years ago What does the train cost from Prov to NYC?

It varies based on time and demand. I’d say around $120-130ish unless you do the Acela.

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 5 years ago

.......drive to New Haven and then take commuter Metro North line into city......much cheaper......

Taylor Swift · Unread post by **Taylor Swift** » 5 years ago

section(105) wrote: ↑5 years ago .......drive to New Haven and then take commuter Metro North line into city......much cheaper......

I always do this when I go to the city. I just hate driving through CT.

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 5 years ago

URI96 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑5 years ago
URI96 wrote: ↑5 years ago Providence would be perfect for this event.
You should use the sarcasm font.

Why? Just look at how well it hosts the NCAA basketball and hockey tournament games.

To be fair to those who talk about being “central” - Pittsburgh is one of the most difficult locations to get to. Atlantic City was a bitch to get to and we did a lot of them there.

Providence would be great. Easy to get to. Cheap. Good bar scene. URI games would be well supported.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

Anyone wanna give Mat Shelton-Eide (of @VCURamNation and @A10Talk on Twitter) the skinny on where Rhody fans gather in Brooklyn?

RhodyKyle · Unread post by **RhodyKyle** » 5 years ago

steviep123 wrote: ↑5 years ago Anyone wanna give Mat Shelton-Eide (of @VCURamNation and @A10Talk on Twitter) the skinny on where Rhody fans gather in Brooklyn?

...aaaaaaaand the coward deleted it. Anyone have a screenshot?

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

RhodyKyle wrote: ↑5 years ago
steviep123 wrote: ↑5 years ago Anyone wanna give Mat Shelton-Eide (of @VCURamNation and @A10Talk on Twitter) the skinny on where Rhody fans gather in Brooklyn?

...aaaaaaaand the coward deleted it. Anyone have a screenshot?

Click on the link....it's not deleted. For some reason it's not pulling into the thread, but it's there. The text says:

"To all my non-VCU A-10 friends, where does your school typically party in Brooklyn for the A-10 tournament? Curious what that experience is like for everyone else."

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 5 years ago

RhodyKyle wrote: ↑5 years ago
steviep123 wrote: ↑5 years ago Anyone wanna give Mat Shelton-Eide (of @VCURamNation and @A10Talk on Twitter) the skinny on where Rhody fans gather in Brooklyn?

...aaaaaaaand the coward deleted it. Anyone have a screenshot?

His tweets are protected. You can only see them if you follow him.

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 5 years ago

The guarantees required by the A10 all pertained to attendance and the host city having to make up the difference between ticket packages sold versus the number the conference wanted guaranteed. Other smaller things like waiver of some city taxes pertaining to ticket sales. The city officials felt it was too much risk for them.

I was at the meeting in an observatory non-participating role with no input to the decision

I have no knowledge if schools hosting NCAA first round or regionals in both hockey and basketball have to give the same guarantees. I have never been in a meeting where that was proposed.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

ace wrote: ↑5 years ago
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑5 years ago
steviep123 wrote: ↑5 years ago Anyone wanna give Mat Shelton-Eide (of @VCURamNation and @A10Talk on Twitter) the skinny on where Rhody fans gather in Brooklyn?

...aaaaaaaand the coward deleted it. Anyone have a screenshot?
His tweets are protected. You can only see them if you follow him.

Sorry, I didn't realize that. Thanks Ace!

RhodyKyle · Unread post by **RhodyKyle** » 5 years ago

ace wrote: ↑5 years ago
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑5 years ago
steviep123 wrote: ↑5 years ago Anyone wanna give Mat Shelton-Eide (of @VCURamNation and @A10Talk on Twitter) the skinny on where Rhody fans gather in Brooklyn?

...aaaaaaaand the coward deleted it. Anyone have a screenshot?
His tweets are protected. You can only see them if you follow him.

Thanks, ace. Definitely not worth it for me to follow this goober.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 5 years ago

Ramulous wrote: ↑5 years ago The guarantees required by the A10 all pertained to attendance and the host city having to make up the difference between ticket packages sold versus the number the conference wanted guaranteed. Other smaller things like waiver of some city taxes pertaining to ticket sales. The city officials felt it was too much risk for them.

I was at the meeting in an observatory non-participating role with no input to the decision

I have no knowledge if schools hosting NCAA first round or regionals in both hockey and basketball have to give the same guarantees. I have never been in a meeting where that was proposed.

That's interesting, I would have never thought of those sorts of protections on these contracts. You look at what the tournament drew last year in a location considered pretty central like Washington D.C., and I would be weary of that sort of commitment as well. Pittsburgh drew terrible, and even Barclays wasn't that great three years ago. Makes sense why Barclays was open to breaking part of the agreement and getting the ACC involved the last few years.

Now one thing I might say, I think college basketball is semi-important in this area. I could see a lot of local college basketball fans buying ticket packages to go, especially if priced right. I know I'm going to the Big East Tournament this year, and didn't buy the cheapest tickets but bought next cheapest, and I think it was $190 for all 9 games. Frankly, I think Providence could draw just as well as Brooklyn. Maybe not early on in the tournament, but I could see quarterfinal games drawing in 7K+ just in URI and other local college basketball fans.

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