You can blame it all in Coaches who underperformedrjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years agoAre two years a trend?ramster wrote: ↑5 years agoRight you are. Pitt has been a trended down in Basketball since joining the ACC from the Big East and their Football Program has not performed well eitherRhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago In the last 7 years Pitts has won 1 game in the NCAA Tournament. In 2015 they lost in the first round of the NIT to a team from a “3rd rate high school league” GW.
Their mistake is that they associate themselves with the top of the ACC. They have only been in the ACC 5 years. They have had a winning record once (11-7) and it was 5 years ago. Their overall ACC record is 32-58. They aren’t getting to the top tier of the ACC any time soon. They will have another losing conference record again this year and will not make the NCAA Tournament again.
Basketball:
2017: 8-24 (0-18) and lost 19 straight games
2016: 16-17 (4-14)
2015: 21-12 (9-9)
2014: 19-15 (8-10)
2013: 26-10 (11-7)
Football:
2018: 2-2 (1-1)
2017: 5-7 (3-5)
2016: 8-5 (5-3)
2015: 8-5 (6-2)
2014: 6-7 (4-4)
2013: 7-6 (3-5)
Basketball lost their coach to TCU.
Football lost their coach to Wisconsin.
Those coaches did not flame out just because they went from the Big East to the ACC.
In fact, both coaches turned their success into very lucrative contracts at other schools.
Basketball made a horrible hire and already has worked to course correct.
On paper, Kevin Stallings was not a bad hire.
In his last 13 years at Vanderbilt, they made 7 NCAA's and 3 NIT's.
But he was the type of person who had worn out his welcome with Vanderbilt, and that attitude quickly destroyed that basketball team.
The jury is still out on the football coach.
They might need to make a tough decision soon.
I don't look at Pittsburgh and say it's impossible for that school to compete in the ACC.
They just need the right coaches (and frankly think they can get them given the money they are willing to spend).
Capel is another good hire on paper, it'll be interesting to see how it translated.
I think a school like Rutgers at this point is going to be hard-pressed to find a quality basketball coach willing to go there.
I’d say it’s more than just that
Look at the Big East Teams who moved to the ACC. Many have underperformed in both Football and Basketball:
Pittsburgh
Virginia Tech
Miami
Syracuse
Boston College
Louisville
Then you have Rutgers and West Virginia
Did they all have bad coaches? No
Would and if them choose to return to the Big East? Of course not, no possible way
But programs like Duke, Clemson, North Carolina, Florida State, NC State etc are all strong formidable programs
Your not in Kansas any more Dorothy and you’d best gave extremely good coaches if you think about bypassing the ACC established teams.
But I’d trade Conference places with Boston College and URI if I could.