‘19 PA SG - Dahmir Bishop (Xavier > St Joe’s > FGCU)

[RhodyKyle]

His brother. Dan is saying his brother said it.

[Billyboy78]

Link?

[wpbrown8267]

I started watching his IG live last night but had to leave, did his brother mention in then?

[DC_Rams]

Dan, can you explain in further context? Your message is way too cryptic.

I still don’t believe he makes it to his visit.

[Rhody_NYCT]

Let's stay positive...Bishop and Walker (and McLeod) know that if they come to Rhody, they are forming a perennial top 25 team and a force to be reckoned with. It's that simple.

[DC_Rams]

Let's stay positive...Bishop and Walker (and McLeod) know that if they come to Rhody, they are forming a perennial top 25 team and a force to be reckoned with. It's that simple.

They’ve always known that. Nothing has changed. They also know they can join other teams with highly rated players. We aren’t the exception to the rule.

[Rhodymob05]

I started watching his IG live last night but had to leave, did his brother mention in then?

Might have been a few weeks ago.

[CT Rhody]

Let's stay positive...Bishop and Walker (and McLeod) know that if they come to Rhody, they are forming a perennial top 25 team and a force to be reckoned with. It's that simple.

They’ve always known that. Nothing has changed. They also know they can join other teams with highly rated players. We aren’t the exception to the rule.

The way Xavier is recruiting Bishop and other SG’s at that position while putting emense pressure to commit right away shows him that he is just a number to their program, 1 of 13. The way URI is recruiting him and focusing on him shows him that he truly is a priority recruit but more importantly a foundational piece to the program. That is the difference.

[TruePoint]

The emotional roller coaster some of you guys live on is way too much for me. How do you do it?

[DC_Rams]

The emotional roller coaster some of you guys live on is way too much for me. How do you do it?

Live your life TP, I’ll continue to live mine.

[FattsAndFurious]

I'll take a mini victory even if its IG based

[Aramis Porthos]

Let's stay positive...Bishop and Walker (and McLeod) know that if they come to Rhody, they are forming a perennial top 25 team and a force to be reckoned with. It's that simple.

They’ve always known that. Nothing has changed. They also know they can join other teams with highly rated players. We aren’t the exception to the rule.

The way Xavier is recruiting Bishop and other SG’s at that position while putting emense pressure to commit right away shows him that he is just a number to their program, 1 of 13. The way URI is recruiting him and focusing on him shows him that he truly is a priority recruit but more importantly a foundational piece to the program. That is the difference.

There's a difference between pressuring a kid to commit and informing him that there is another recruit at his position where there is mutual interest. If Damir wanted to commit to X today, they would stop recruiting Newman and vice versa. Only recruiting one kid per position is a great way for a coach to get fired. I think most kids understand the competitiveness and zero game that happens in recruiting. If Damir goes to Rhode Island, it won't be because Xavier's recruiting other SGs.

[DC_Rams]

Check his IG story. He’s about to commit to XU.

[CT Rhody]

Check his IG story. He’s about to commit to XU.

Guess we’ll see. Still believe URI is the better program for him but it’s his decision.

[DC_Rams]

Check his IG story. He’s about to commit to XU.

Guess we’ll see. Still believe URI is the better program for him but it’s his decision.

Of course WE here believe that, but it’s a lock, it’s XU. Especially considering he hasn’t even went on his URI Visit.

[Rhody83]

I don’t think Xavier is pressuring Dahmir to the extend that CT Rhody thinks. I think Dahmir is Xavier’s priority over Newman. Newman’s recruiting is more wide open from what I have read. Purdue and Indiana are considered the leaders because his mother is sick and he moved back home to Indiana from Montverde for his Sr year. According to Snow, Newman intends to complete the process with all of his in home visits before making a decision. He has Xavier this weekend and Ohio State next weekend as his final scheduled visit. The timeline has Newman making a decision shortly after Bishop’s scheduled to URI. So it seems the two of them are on a similar decision timeline.

[Rhody83]

Wow. It just happened. Too bad

[bkoeppen]

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[CT Rhody]

Wow. It just happened. Too bad

What just happened?

[DC_Rams]

It was a lock after his visit. There was a “silent” verbal, XU leaked it to writers, and once Snow knew, he ran with it.

He committed to XU.

[CT Rhody]

It was a lock after his visit. There was a “silent” verbal, XU leaked it to writers, and once Snow knew, he ran with it.

He committed to XU.

Ouch that hurts.

[Rhody74]

Shit .... thought we’d get him but lose out on Walker.

[DC_Rams]

Unlikely we get Walker. He will likely end up at Pitt. Bright lights have gotten to him.

[RF1]

Looks like relationships were not the most important factors for Bishop's decision.

[ramster]

....ok Guys. I’ve seen this play out before. Brian Snow knows. He was unsure when Harris was between URI and XU, but there was no hesitation this time. Again, don’t be surprised.

Unfortunately for URI, DC_Rams, your intuition was correct. Good call on this one, you read the tea leaves accurately. And we move on.

[CT Rhody]

Hindsight being 50/50, clearly not ensuring we got the first official visit was a mistake, staff will learn from this experience and move on.

[Rhody83]

Hindsight being 50/50, clearly not ensuring we got the first official visit was a mistake, staff will learn from this experience and move on.

Really! You are bringing up learning experiences for our staff that has 35 years recruiting D1 players. Bishop picked his visit date. He decided to go to Xavier first. Should the coaching staff have argued with him about that?

[DC_Rams]

Hindsight being 50/50, clearly not ensuring we got the first official visit was a mistake, staff will learn from this experience and move on.

Dumbest, most uninformed statement of the night.

[Rhody83]

Unlikely we get Walker. He will likely end up at Pitt. Bright lights have gotten to him.

I am guessing that is just your opinion.
URI coaching staff felt different last night even after they knew they lost Bishop.

[CT Rhody]

Hindsight being 50/50, clearly not ensuring we got the first official visit was a mistake, staff will learn from this experience and move on.

Really! You are bringing up learning experiences for our staff that has 35 years recruiting D1 players. Bishop picked his visit date. He decided to go to Xavier first. Should the coaching staff have argued with him about that?

Every player is different so not every recruiting situation is the same, if player picked the date then completely agree, nothing could of been done. This is why schools push so hard for the first visit, it does make a big difference. Don’t take my comment wrong, staff did a tremendous job with this refruitment but I bet even they would publically say they would off changed one thing if they had to do it all over again.

Time to move on, Cox will rebound in no time.

[wpbrown8267]

This stings

But we move on and look to lock down walker and McLeod!

[bkoeppen]

Tough one to swallow, but where do we move on from here after walker and McCloud now 1 & 2, who would be 3?

[rambone 78]

There is no number 3.....we had 4 openings.....2 have been taken by Long and Aris.

Maybe the staff knew about Bishop not coming here a little while ago, and got Aris because of that.

[STC]

Will be interesting to see what Cox does from here. From a guard standpoint he seemed to put all his eggs in the Dahmir Bishop basket. Is Tyler Burton the backup plan?

I have to believe Cox is involved with other guards that hasn’t been as public as the recruitment of Bishop. Long commit came out of nowhere but we’re further along in the recruiting process now.

[Rhody83]

I agree is stings but there is more of a need for bigmen than there was for a 6’ 4” SG.
Rhody roster
Fatts 5’ 10”
Jeff 6’ 3”
Silverio 6’ 4”
Thompson 6’ 5”
Martin 6’ 6”
Long (committed) 6’ 7”
Tate 6’ 7”

That is seven players that will be on the 2019-20 roster that play the 1, 2 & 3. Five of them will be on the 2020-21 roster.

Upfront we have
Tate 6’ 7” (possibly some at 4)
Aris 6’ 8”
Harris 6’ 8”
Cyril 6’ 8”
Didn’t include Preston because he is a Sr.

[Rhody83]

There is no number 3.....we had 4 openings.....2 have been taken by Long and Aris.

Maybe the staff knew about Bishop not coming here a little while ago, and got Aris because of that.

Aris was recruited by Sutton as soon as Akele told them he was leaving. It had nothing to do with Bishop.

Official visits scheduled include Walker, Burton, Diawara (I believe) and Mading. Long is also visiting in Oct. McLeod responded to Rhody question on IG live that he is coming back to Kingston Sept 29th.

Edit: Somerville also has an official visit scheduled.

[CT Rhody]

There is no number 3.....we had 4 openings.....2 have been taken by Long and Aris.

Maybe the staff knew about Bishop not coming here a little while ago, and got Aris because of that.

Aris was recruited by Sutton as soon as Akele told them he was leaving. It had nothing to do with Bishop.

Official visits scheduled include Walker, Burton, Diawara (I believe) and Mading. Long is also visiting in Oct. McLeod responded to Rhody question on IG live that he is coming back to Kingston Sept 29th.

Two things

1. 83 are you heading Tate is more of a 3 or a 4? Disano compared him to a recent player from Dayton earlier today who played the 4 so I was just curious.

2. Keep in mind with Xavier still reportingly recruiting Newman or another individual at the combo guard spot, it would not be abnormal for Bishop to back out ie Terrell or transfer out after a year.

[RhowdyRam02]

Hindsight being 50/50, clearly not ensuring we got the first official visit was a mistake, staff will learn from this experience and move on.

Really! You are bringing up learning experiences for our staff that has 35 years recruiting D1 players. Bishop picked his visit date. He decided to go to Xavier first. Should the coaching staff have argued with him about that?

Bishop picked the date? I thought you said we moved it so he could be on campus the same time as Walker?

[RamStock]

Hindsight being 50/50, clearly not ensuring we got the first official visit was a mistake, staff will learn from this experience and move on.

Really! You are bringing up learning experiences for our staff that has 35 years recruiting D1 players. Bishop picked his visit date. He decided to go to Xavier first. Should the coaching staff have argued with him about that?

Bishop picked the date? I thought you said we moved it so he could be on campus the same time as Walker?

Walker will never see his visit to URI. He will commit to Pitt by Monday! We will probably get McLeod and hopefully don’t try to get anyone else. We can try to get a transfer mid year that is worthwhile. The remainin guys coming in for visits are not worth it.

[Rhody83]

Hindsight being 50/50, clearly not ensuring we got the first official visit was a mistake, staff will learn from this experience and move on.

Really! You are bringing up learning experiences for our staff that has 35 years recruiting D1 players. Bishop picked his visit date. He decided to go to Xavier first. Should the coaching staff have argued with him about that?

Bishop picked the date? I thought you said we moved it so he could be on campus the same time as Walker?

It’s my understanding Bishop had picked Xavier for Sept 7th and URI for Sept 14th. Then the URI date was switched to Sept 21st. My comment above was in response to the Xavier date because CT Rhody posted that we should’ve got the first visit. Bishop decided to make Xavier his first visit.

[DC_Rams]

Our chances with McLeod and Mading are favorable. I know folks don’t want Mading, but the staff loves his upside. Walker is a LONG SHOT. If he makes it out of Pitt, we have a chance because his family is high on URI.

[RamStock]

I’m happy with how good the 2018 incoming class. We hit on that class, but missed on the 2019 class outside of maybe landing McLeod which would be a nice get.

[rhodyblue12]

Only a matter of time before Capel is on the wrong side of the NCAA again.
No way Walker should go there.

McLeod, Mading and Walker would still be a great class.
Then look for guards in 2020. Still in good shape.

[Rhody83]

It’s hard to follow up a great recruiting class that has 4 players the next year (unless you are an elite program). The question of playing time can become an issue.

We also have to realize that recruits still have to develop to be really good in college. Even 4 star recruits. Bishop is not a good shooter. He could develop into a good shooter but he isn’t currently. So players rated below 4 stars in HS can pass these top recruits in college. We saw that with Hass.

Btw, I would prefer Tyrese Martin over Bishop.

[RamStock]

It’s hard to follow up a great recruiting class that has 4 players the next year (unless you are an elite program). The question of playing time can become an issue.

We also have to realize that recruits still have to develop to be really good in college. Even 4 star recruits. Bishop is not a good shooter. He could develop into a good shooter but he isn’t currently. So players rated below 4 stars in HS can pass these top recruits in college. We saw that with Hass.

Btw, I would prefer Tyrese Martin over Bishop.

I love Tyrese also, but we can’t say now that we didn’t get Bishop it is no big deal. We would be able to find time for both easily as we saw with the four guards from last year. We need to focus on getting McLeod and call it a day for 2019.

[CHICO 78]

I really thought we had a shot with Bishop and I thought Walker was the long shot. I still think he is. He is all about the big programs and the bright lights! I hope I’m wrong but I think he would rather ride the pine at a P5 school than have an impact with us.

[Rhody83]

I really thought we had a shot with Bishop and I thought Walker was the long shot. I still think he is. He is all about the big programs and the bright lights! I hope I’m wrong but I think he would rather ride the pine at a P5 school than have an impact with us.

Walker doesn’t believe he will ride the pine at a P5 school and the P5 coaches recruiting him are telling him he will be a key player. The kids at Walker’s level all want to play in the NBA and want to know what the school/coach can do to help them achieve their dream.

I believe Walker is a long shot as well. Hopefully we get the OV next week. Rhody does well when they get a recruit on campus for an OV. I still think it is down to Rhody and Pitt with Pitt as the leader.

[ace]

Tough break. He was the highest ranked player they were involved with, and they seemed to have the momentum for a while. Recruiting can be brutal.

[FattsAndFurious]

Looks like relationships were not the most important factors for Bishop's decision.

Or he really liked our staff but had a better relationship with Steele?

[Tom98]

We had this kid.....Unbelievable. Maybe he realizes his mistake and backs out. First visit killed us. We need to find a scorer now.