St Louis has always been well funded and above anything URI is doing in the money department. Why would that be a problem?Iggy1979 wrote:Thorr has been very creative in finding money for the HC position. He now has to do that for the assistants. If Cox can't hire away from St Louis because of $ then we have a problem.
Seawrightspostgame wrote:St Louis has always been well funded and above anything URI is doing in the money department. Why would that be a problem?Iggy1979 wrote:Thorr has been very creative in finding money for the HC position. He now has to do that for the assistants. If Cox can't hire away from St Louis because of $ then we have a problem.
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URI has money right now. We have documented all the increases from NCAA appearances, increased ticket sales, Hurley buyout, savings on Hurley salary. To not put $200,000 more into the Ast Coaches’ pool was Thinking Small and very disappointing IMO.Seawrightspostgame wrote:St Louis has always been well funded and above anything URI is doing in the money department. Why would that be a problem?Iggy1979 wrote:Thorr has been very creative in finding money for the HC position. He now has to do that for the assistants. If Cox can't hire away from St Louis because of $ then we have a problem.
St. Louis's money sits front row at their games right on the court. Mega donor.
I'm just saying it is not a problem. St Louis has always had big bucks circulating.Rhody83 wrote:URI has money right now. We have documented all the increases from NCAA appearances, increased ticket sales, Hurley buyout, savings on Hurley salary. To not put $200,000 more into the Ast Coaches’ pool was Thinking Small and very disappointing IMO.Seawrightspostgame wrote:St Louis has always been well funded and above anything URI is doing in the money department. Why would that be a problem?Iggy1979 wrote:Thorr has been very creative in finding money for the HC position. He now has to do that for the assistants. If Cox can't hire away from St Louis because of $ then we have a problem.
St. Louis's money sits front row at their games right on the court. Mega donor.
You can’t recruit without good Assistants. You need them to coach. Spending $ on Assistants is way more impactful than charter flights. URI has proved that the last two years.
Sorry, but you are whistling in the dark about this and that requires a broader perspective. A recent study showed that the URI faculty is the lowest paid of all the New England flagship publics with the exception of Maine, and given that the cost of living in Orono area is lower than Kingston, it is not exaggeration to say URI, on a disposable income basis, is the lowest. So why would the BB coaching staff be any different comparatively. The question is how do attract the best and the brightest in either group?RF1 wrote:Meanwhile the former URI coach will be paying his assistants the following salary at his new gig:
Hunter $315,000
Moore $250,000
Young $250,000
Total Base Salary: $815,000
UConn Men's Notebook: Salary For Assistants, Benedict Discusses Recruiting
http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-men ... story.html
Thorr Bjorn increased URI's salary pool by 6.25% to $425,000, a figure approximately half of what UConn will pay. Based on its pay structure, I guess URI is quite committed to continually replacing head and assistant coaches.
FWIW - It is just as bad for the other lower level positions as well:
Director of Admin: UConn $160,300 URI $46,500
DBO: UConn $80,000 URI $38,000
I wonder how Ty Bosell felt about getting a 6.25% raise instead of more than doubling his salary. Was he disappointed to be staying in Kingston?
He was in the right place, but it musta been the wrong time.rambone 78 wrote:Again, is there interest in Dr. John?
I’m sure he did, but his hands were tied until he actually GOT the job. Doesn’t sound like they gave Cox the same pool of money they were giving DH.TruePoint wrote:I’d have thought a lot of the groundwork would have been laid before he even got the job. You’d think he reached out to people and gauged interest and that that was part of his presentation to Thorr and Dooley.
Also who knows when Moore's resignation became effective. The first assistant couldn't be hired until about 2 weeks after that. Coach Cox' assistant position can't be hired until that position has been posted for 10 days. These are state positions, so I assume they have the same hold ups that the head job had.DC_Rams wrote:I’m sure he did, but his hands were tied until he actually GOT the job. Doesn’t sound like they gave Cox the same pool of money they were giving DH.TruePoint wrote:I’d have thought a lot of the groundwork would have been laid before he even got the job. You’d think he reached out to people and gauged interest and that that was part of his presentation to Thorr and Dooley.
All of the Ast Coaches were are one year contracts that expired on Fri, Apr 6th or Sun, Apr 8th.Dre3000 wrote:Also who knows when Moore's resignation became effective. The first assistant couldn't be hired until about 2 weeks after that. Coach Cox' assistant position can't be hired until that position has been posted for 10 days. These are state positions, so I assume they have the same hold ups that the head job had.DC_Rams wrote:I’m sure he did, but his hands were tied until he actually GOT the job. Doesn’t sound like they gave Cox the same pool of money they were giving DH.TruePoint wrote:I’d have thought a lot of the groundwork would have been laid before he even got the job. You’d think he reached out to people and gauged interest and that that was part of his presentation to Thorr and Dooley.
That's a great question, when Baron was let go what happened with the other assistants? I know Preston stayed on, but were the others fired at the same time as Baron? If so, I'd assume that's the difference here.Rhody83 wrote:If the Ast Coaches have to go under the 2 week waiting period how did Dan announce Bobby as an Ast at the presser when he was announced as the Head Coach?
Dan says/has said a lot of things....Rhody83 wrote:If the Ast Coaches have to go under the 2 week waiting period how did Dan announce Bobby as an Ast at the presser when he was announced as the Head Coach?
In that case, Moore was recruiting for UConn while still under contract to us.Rhody83 wrote:All of the Ast Coaches were are one year contracts that expired on Fri, Apr 6th or Sun, Apr 8th.Dre3000 wrote:Also who knows when Moore's resignation became effective. The first assistant couldn't be hired until about 2 weeks after that. Coach Cox' assistant position can't be hired until that position has been posted for 10 days. These are state positions, so I assume they have the same hold ups that the head job had.DC_Rams wrote:
I’m sure he did, but his hands were tied until he actually GOT the job. Doesn’t sound like they gave Cox the same pool of money they were giving DH.
I know at least one member of the staff that was not immediately let go but ultimately was not retained by Hurley at URI.Dre3000 wrote:That's a great question, when Baron was let go what happened with the other assistants? I know Preston stayed on, but were the others fired at the same time as Baron? If so, I'd assume that's the difference here.Rhody83 wrote:If the Ast Coaches have to go under the 2 week waiting period how did Dan announce Bobby as an Ast at the presser when he was announced as the Head Coach?
LOL...looks like maybe Moore was recruiting for UConn from the moment he arrived at URI?Billyboy78 wrote:In that case, Moore was recruiting for UConn while still under contract to us.Rhody83 wrote:All of the Ast Coaches were are one year contracts that expired on Fri, Apr 6th or Sun, Apr 8th.Dre3000 wrote:
Also who knows when Moore's resignation became effective. The first assistant couldn't be hired until about 2 weeks after that. Coach Cox' assistant position can't be hired until that position has been posted for 10 days. These are state positions, so I assume they have the same hold ups that the head job had.
There was a tweet that Dan and Moore were watching Akok Akok, Jaiden Delaire and Tre Mitchell just a couple of days after Dan was hired. That was way before April 6th. Funny that I can't find it. It must have been deleted.NYGFan_Section208 wrote:LOL...looks like maybe Moore was recruiting for UConn from the moment he arrived at URI?Billyboy78 wrote:In that case, Moore was recruiting for UConn while still under contract to us.Rhody83 wrote:
All of the Ast Coaches were are one year contracts that expired on Fri, Apr 6th or Sun, Apr 8th.
It doesn’t prevent someone from resigning earlier than April 6th which I am sure they all did. It was interesting to see that Dan didn’t announce his staffs’ hiring until April 10th.Billyboy78 wrote:In that case, Moore was recruiting for UConn while still under contract to us.Rhody83 wrote:All of the Ast Coaches were are one year contracts that expired on Fri, Apr 6th or Sun, Apr 8th.Dre3000 wrote:
Also who knows when Moore's resignation became effective. The first assistant couldn't be hired until about 2 weeks after that. Coach Cox' assistant position can't be hired until that position has been posted for 10 days. These are state positions, so I assume they have the same hold ups that the head job had.
Neither Preston nor ARD are more experienced than Cox. Neither was considered for any of the openings this year. Tyson will never be a Div 1 head coach. Bonzie Colson.?What?Cameron_Dollar wrote:I was critical of the Cox hire for a number of reasons, but I'm a fan and am all in for now. The problem isn't always money. Many of the top assistants that are out there feel that the incoming recruiting class not withstanding, they are more experienced and better suited for a HC job than Cox. That is just the reality. Just ask a couple of guys named Antonio and Preston who were both advised in no uncertain terms that if you apply to your alma mater and don't even garner consideration, you will hurt your value more than help it. Someone like Tyson Wheeler would probably be a nice fit but out of loyalty to the two aforementioned men would probably not apply. I wonder what Bonzie Colson is doing these days now that his son will be going on to the NBA. He certainly has name recognition and was on two D1 staffs. I'm sure they don't need anyone on this board to figure it out. They must have a plan in place.
Yorke is not a good interviewer. No questions on assistants, recruiting vision, etc. I didn’t detect anything we didn’t already know.DC_Rams wrote:http://www.wpri.com/fox-providence/dan- ... 1120265349
Dan Yorke Cox interview. Good stuff in here.
He’s also not really a sports reporter and this interview was for a general audience. He serves a different role than someone like Chris Disano would if he sat down with the coach.Rhody74 wrote:Yorke is not a good interviewer. No questions on assistants, recruiting vision, etc. I didn’t detect anything we didn’t already know.DC_Rams wrote:http://www.wpri.com/fox-providence/dan- ... 1120265349
Dan Yorke Cox interview. Good stuff in here.
In 5 to 10 years - Preston will be as experienced as coach Cox. Just sayin.Iggy1979 wrote:Neither Preston nor ARD are more experienced than Cox. Neither was considered for any of the openings this year. Tyson will never be a Div 1 head coach. Bonzie Colson.?What?Cameron_Dollar wrote:I was critical of the Cox hire for a number of reasons, but I'm a fan and am all in for now. The problem isn't always money. Many of the top assistants that are out there feel that the incoming recruiting class not withstanding, they are more experienced and better suited for a HC job than Cox. That is just the reality. Just ask a couple of guys named Antonio and Preston who were both advised in no uncertain terms that if you apply to your alma mater and don't even garner consideration, you will hurt your value more than help it. Someone like Tyson Wheeler would probably be a nice fit but out of loyalty to the two aforementioned men would probably not apply. I wonder what Bonzie Colson is doing these days now that his son will be going on to the NBA. He certainly has name recognition and was on two D1 staffs. I'm sure they don't need anyone on this board to figure it out. They must have a plan in place.
When ARD left it was reported that he started at Clemson with a base of 190k, so if Cox wanted to bring he back he would really need to be the lead assistant (assuming that he would be interested).Cameron_Dollar wrote:Iggy, I was talking about Tyson as candidate for an assistant coaching position. He's been at Fairfield for about 6 years. As for Preston and Antonio, they are certainly as qualified as Cox and there were many low level D1 jobs for which they could have applied. They are both probably around 300K per year, which is double what the Bryant job pays. I stand behind my statement that finding a top assistant coach has been a challenge.
https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/c ... 192db.htmlKevanBoyles wrote:I read that ARD went from $116 at URI to around $150 at Clemson.
Do you have info that the assistant search is because of the money or are you making a baseless assumption because we haven't heard any names?rambone 78 wrote:Seems that the search for assistants is being hampered by the salary being offered.
No surprise there. I don't know what Thorr was thinking when the pool was only increased 25K.
Hopefully Cox has talked to him about it. Penny wise and pound foolish won't get it done.
Makes sense if you remember that the also rans got calls Wednesday morning.TruePoint wrote:One thing I found pretty interesting from Cox’s interview with Yorke is that he was told he got the job on Tuesday night. The earliest report I’ve been able to find with that news was Rothstein’s tweet at 1:30 PM the next day. Just something to think about as we “patiently” await word on news we expect to be coming.
Also interesting to note because a lot of people were freaking out about coaches being told they didn't get the job on Wednesday because they were worried Cox might not accept and we did everything backwards.TruePoint wrote:One thing I found pretty interesting from Cox’s interview with Yorke is that he was told he got the job on Tuesday night. The earliest report I’ve been able to find with that news was Rothstein’s tweet at 1:30 PM the next day. Just something to think about as we “patiently” await word on news we expect to be coming.
That was because one local reporter tweeted that. Kayata, I think?adam914 wrote:Also interesting to note because a lot of people were freaking out about coaches being told they didn't get the job on Wednesday because they were worried Cox might not accept and we did everything backwards.TruePoint wrote:One thing I found pretty interesting from Cox’s interview with Yorke is that he was told he got the job on Tuesday night. The earliest report I’ve been able to find with that news was Rothstein’s tweet at 1:30 PM the next day. Just something to think about as we “patiently” await word on news we expect to be coming.
