2018 NCAA Tournament Talk

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 6 years ago

Quick Trivia Question to get your mind off of Hurley

Who Coached Basketball at the University of Rhode Island and at Loyola of Chicago University?

No googling for the answer - must answer in 5 seconds or less

brady1 · Unread post by **brady1** » 6 years ago

Larry Farmer

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 6 years ago

Loving LCHI getting it done. Can't believe the assclown commentators still pulling for kstate. LMAO

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 6 years ago

Wait, so you can strive to make the Final Four from a non power conference? Asking for a friend.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 6 years ago

Loyola is a great story and fun team to cheer on. It is teams such as them that make the NCAA Tournament so special. I hope the power conference schools do not get their way and ruin the event.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 6 years ago

Could have been us. Should have been us. This is why you have to have the goal to be in the tournament every year. You never know when the matchups/draw will end up in your favor, or when the path will be opened up in front of you.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 6 years ago

brady1 wrote:Larry Farmer

Right Brady
Larry Farmer was on Jim Harrick's Staff
He moved on to become the Head Coach at Loyola Chicago

Larry was an excellent player for UCLA

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 6 years ago

Last year we had a golden opportunity with the matchups to possibly get to the FF, but Hassan got hurt.

This year we had very little opportunity to get there. Too small with not enough of a frontcourt.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 6 years ago

They just mentioned that Terance Mann’s mother is head coach of our women’s team. I completely forgot about that. Also how good would we be with him?

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 6 years ago

steviep123 wrote:They just mentioned that Terance Mann’s mother is head coach of our women’s team. I completely forgot about that. Also how good would we be with him?

LOL...I'm an FSU fan and watch them quite a bit...they usually mention that 2-3x per game.
He wouldn't be a bad one to have on the team, that's fer sure....

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 6 years ago

I didn't know Bunny Colvin was coaching Florida State. I need FSU to schedule PC so we can get the Bunny Colvin vs Bunk Moreland game.

RhodyKyle · Unread post by **RhodyKyle** » 6 years ago

TruePoint wrote:I didn't know Bunny Colvin was coaching Florida State. I need FSU to schedule PC so we can get the Bunny Colvin vs Bunk Moreland game.

Would be fitting...considering the PC campus looks like it is in the middle of Hamsterdam.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 6 years ago

Kinda strange, but FSU looks gassed....

rhodyrudder · Unread post by **rhodyrudder** » 6 years ago

just about the worst last 30 seconds ever...
they gave up with 10 seconds?

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 6 years ago

pttthhhhh........

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 6 years ago

Bunny Colvin seemed confused and offended by the suggestion that his team foul and not give up down 4 with 11 seconds to go. Uhhhh what?

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 6 years ago

That was....dumb

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 6 years ago

Congrats to aLoyola whatva story indeed

That can be URI some day it's possible!!

RhodyKyle · Unread post by **RhodyKyle** » 6 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Bunny Colvin seemed confused and offended by the suggestion that his team foul and not give up down 4 with 11 seconds to go. Uhhhh what?

Maybe he is a firm believer that good teams win but great teams cover and he wants his team to be great?

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 6 years ago

RhodyKyle wrote:
TruePoint wrote:Bunny Colvin seemed confused and offended by the suggestion that his team foul and not give up down 4 with 11 seconds to go. Uhhhh what?

Maybe he is a firm believer that good teams win but great teams cover and he wants his team to be great?

Or...maybe he thought that lady from the Pizza Pie Tops commercial had called timeout? I mean, looks like she already fooled him once...

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 6 years ago

Hey weren't we supposed to be featured in some kind of behind the scenes thing in the tournament?

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 6 years ago

Did Nance just yell out "That's it! Get the ball in to Bagley!"
Yikes....

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 6 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote:Hey weren't we supposed to be featured in some kind of behind the scenes thing in the tournament?

Behind the scenes? Uconn?

This Duke Kansas game feels like a national title game.

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 6 years ago

Duke makes me sick. Coach Kmart needs to use a better brand of hair dye.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 6 years ago

Free basketball!

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 6 years ago

Amazing what happens when you attack that Duke zone at the FT line. Instead of 100 high screens.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 6 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote:Amazing what happens when you attack that Duke zone at the FT line. Instead of 100 high screens.

Agreed, but I don't think we had the roster to do it. KI was the guy to do it. We'd probably would have had to play Akele extended minutes for that.

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 6 years ago

steviep123 wrote:
Gonebarongone wrote:Amazing what happens when you attack that Duke zone at the FT line. Instead of 100 high screens.
Agreed, but I don't think we had the roster to do it. KI was the guy to do it. We'd probably would have had to play Akele extended minutes for that.

Said it at the time. Think Dowtin would have been able to.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 6 years ago

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 6 years ago

Anytime Duke loses in the NCAA tourney, it's a sunny day.

Great video...funny.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 6 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote:Amazing what happens when you attack that Duke zone at the FT line. Instead of 100 high screens.

Being one of the best teams in the country helps to.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 6 years ago

The real question is how do we get Bagley III on the C's

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 6 years ago

Maybe with Tate we can do that. Attack zones that is.

Love to see what we can do with a balanced roster. On offense and defense.

Watching the Kansas-Duke game was unusual.

The good news was, someone had to lose.

The bad news was, someone had to win.

Still, Kansas imo was the better of the 2 evils. Loyola against Villanova for the ball of wax. Villanova gets it.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 6 years ago

The only plan we had for staying with Duke was shoot lights out from 3.

One shot and swish. After tossing the ball around the top of the zone 4 times, looked like a poorly spread out version of Hoosiers. No ball rotation to the corners, no probing the baseline - zip.

Unfortunately it was one shot and clank.

Meaning no plan......

How many times we gonna pass?

Four! (coulda used him I guess)

CHICO 78 · Unread post by **CHICO 78** » 6 years ago

Having your own 7 footers helps too!!

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 6 years ago

Can't attack their zone without a big guy who can pass stationed at the FT line....we didn't have that.

So we stood around and went 1 on 1 late in the shot clock...and made no adjustments.

Would have lost to Syracuse too. And any other good team with any size that could play a zone.

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 6 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:Can't attack their zone without a big guy who can pass stationed at the FT line....we didn't have that.

So we stood around and went 1 on 1 late in the shot clock...and made no adjustments.

Would have lost to Syracuse too. And any other good team with any size that could play a zone.

Doesn't have to be a big. Jerome Robinson killed Cuse for BC running through the middle of that zone. Dowtin is long enough and smart enough and can make that 15 footer. We actually did it towards the end. Dowtin took a pass at the FT line and hit Fatts for a wide open three when the defense collapsed.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 6 years ago

A little late I guess.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 6 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote:
rambone 78 wrote:Can't attack their zone without a big guy who can pass stationed at the FT line....we didn't have that.

So we stood around and went 1 on 1 late in the shot clock...and made no adjustments.

Would have lost to Syracuse too. And any other good team with any size that could play a zone.
Doesn't have to be a big. Jerome Robinson killed Cuse for BC running through the middle of that zone. Dowtin is long enough and smart enough and can make that 15 footer. We actually did it towards the end. Dowtin took a pass at the FT line and hit Fatts for a wide open three when the defense collapsed.

And we tried to do it in Duke game. Dowtin and JT caught at foul line early, hit Berry for a dump down, he fumbled out of bounds. Then we did it again and he rushed his shot and missed a bunny. Then we missed a couple shots...then we were down 20. We also tried to run guys on baseline for lobs at beginning of game, but instead of being able to throw it up to Azebuike we had 6'3 guards and a 6'10 monster standing in front of the rim. I remember Terrell and EC both running baseline (which is open area in this Duke 4-1 zone) and not being able to do much when they caught it. You may be able to blame DH for a few things these last couple weeks, but our game strategy vs Duke wouldn't be 1 of them.

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 6 years ago

bigappleram wrote:
Gonebarongone wrote:
rambone 78 wrote:Can't attack their zone without a big guy who can pass stationed at the FT line....we didn't have that.

So we stood around and went 1 on 1 late in the shot clock...and made no adjustments.

Would have lost to Syracuse too. And any other good team with any size that could play a zone.
Doesn't have to be a big. Jerome Robinson killed Cuse for BC running through the middle of that zone. Dowtin is long enough and smart enough and can make that 15 footer. We actually did it towards the end. Dowtin took a pass at the FT line and hit Fatts for a wide open three when the defense collapsed.
And we tried to do it in Duke game. Dowtin and JT caught at foul line early, hit Berry for a dump down, he fumbled out of bounds. Then we did it again and he rushed his shot and missed a bunny. Then we missed a couple shots...then we were down 20. We also tried to run guys on baseline for lobs at beginning of game, but instead of being able to throw it up to Azebuike we had 6'3 guards and a 6'10 monster standing in front of the rim. I remember Terrell and EC both running baseline (which is open area in this Duke 4-1 zone) and not being able to do much when they caught it. You may be able to blame DH for a few things these last couple weeks, but our game strategy vs Duke wouldn't be 1 of them.

You know what? You're right. 6 ACC loss, elite 8 Duke was too tough to beat. And God forbid we stayed within 700 points.

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 6 years ago

How about that great shot Allen took at the end of regulation--a left handed (he is right handed) runner from about 10 feet. No time out taken by the great coach K resulted in this God awful shot. Anyone else think getting the ball down low would have been a better option? Allen tried "hero ball" and failed miserably. The genius coach K also failed with his strategy--or lack thereof. You are not always going to make a shot at the buzzer but missing a decent shot is better than what Allen tried to do. He had the ball is his hands and dribbled until the final shot.

This is the same Grayson Allen who was "indefinitely" suspended by the great coach K for one of his tripping incidents. The suspension lasted all of one game--what a penalty. Way to end your career........

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 6 years ago

Agree with all of that...and not really a fan...but I actually think Allen will have a decent pro career...

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 6 years ago

coach K has won something like 12-15 Elite Eight games. Only lost to 3 coaches. Self, Izzo, and Pitino. Pitino has beaten Coach K twice in the Elite Eight with two different schools. And the only guy to take 3 schools to the Final Four.

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 6 years ago

eli#10 wrote:How about that great shot Allen took at the end of regulation--a left handed (he is right handed) runner from about 10 feet. No time out taken by the great coach K resulted in this God awful shot. Anyone else think getting the ball down low would have been a better option? Allen tried "hero ball" and failed miserably. The genius coach K also failed with his strategy--or lack thereof. You are not always going to make a shot at the buzzer but missing a decent shot is better than what Allen tried to do. He had the ball is his hands and dribbled until the final shot.

This is the same Grayson Allen who was "indefinitely" suspended by the great coach K for one of his tripping incidents. The suspension lasted all of one game--what a penalty. Way to end your career........

I actually prefer not calling a timeout there. Hate over managing the game. But, it was criminal not to at least dump it into Bagley. They had Mykhailuk (sp?) on him all game and were doubling every post entry. Can't imagine he is not getting a better shot or at least passing out for an open jumper. Self owned K in this game. They are talented but not as talented as Duke. Coaching matters.

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 6 years ago

The thing that sucks the most watching this weekend's games, is that if Xavier and Duke were swapped as seeds (they should have been), it would've been us and Kansas (presuming we had a good shooting night against Cuse's zone).

Duke deserved to be a 1 and should've been playing Michigan for a final four spot.

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 6 years ago

Allen ended his career with 2 awful games as he went 5 for 23 on 3's and 7 for 28 overall. Could not have happened to a better guy/sport. Coach / God K got what he deserved with such a hot shooter taking the final shot although he was only 0 for 1 on running left handed shots from 10 feet.

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 6 years ago

Blue Man wrote:The thing that sucks the most watching this weekend's games, is that if Xavier and Duke were swapped as seeds (they should have been), it would've been us and Kansas (presuming we had a good shooting night against Cuse's zone).

Duke deserved to be a 1 and should've been playing Michigan for a final four spot.

This is a lot of absurdity packed into a short post. Duke lost six league games and didn't win the conference tournament title (didn't even make finals). They didn't earn a #1 seed in any form or fashion. And Cuse would have murdered us if master tactician Cox tried the same exact scheme against the Cuse zone. We would have all of a sudden looked good against the same defense (top 5 in the country by the way)? I am still so p*ssed about how we played that zone and even more pissed by the general "oh well...they were just too good to beat" theme. Makes me sick.

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 6 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote:
Blue Man wrote:The thing that sucks the most watching this weekend's games, is that if Xavier and Duke were swapped as seeds (they should have been), it would've been us and Kansas (presuming we had a good shooting night against Cuse's zone).

Duke deserved to be a 1 and should've been playing Michigan for a final four spot.
This is a lot of absurdity packed into a short post. Duke lost six league games and didn't win the conference tournament title (didn't even make finals). They didn't earn a #1 seed in any form or fashion. And Cuse would have murdered us if master tactician Cox tried the same exact scheme against the Cuse zone. We would have all of a sudden looked good against the same defense (top 5 in the country by the way)? I am still so p*ssed about how we played that zone and even more pissed by the general "oh well...they were just too good to beat" theme. Makes me sick.

Duke was the 2nd 2 seed. Xavier the last 1 seed. That's not that big of a stretch to think they could've been swapped.

To beat a zone you need to have a good shooting night. We shot below 40%. We missed open looks left, right and center. We missed open layups. I don't understand what's so absurd about that.

The larger point is that it's all about draws and luck when it comes to tournament time. Are you going to tell me Loyola Chicago is the 4th best team in the country? They're not. They got matchups that gave them a chance with their style of play. They've also been on fire shooting-wise.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 6 years ago

I mean, Grayson Allen is one of the most annoying / shitty people in CBB and I am super glad that Duke lost...but watch the video. Not a terrible look given the circumstances. https://t.co/NxLqC3465s

The shot was most definitely not left-handed and damn near went in. Some people here talk like it's the easiest thing in the world to draw up / execute a perfect play to convert on a final possession.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 6 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote: This is a lot of absurdity packed into a short post. Duke lost six league games and didn't win the conference tournament title (didn't even make finals). They didn't earn a #1 seed in any form or fashion. And Cuse would have murdered us if master tactician Cox tried the same exact scheme against the Cuse zone. We would have all of a sudden looked good against the same defense (top 5 in the country by the way)? I am still so p*ssed about how we played that zone and even more pissed by the general "oh well...they were just too good to beat" theme. Makes me sick.

Turns out we've been promoting the wrong internal candidate for the HC job. Forget Cox, it should be GBG! The lack-of-experience argument people are using with Cox won't hold water against GBG - he's coached CYO!

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