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DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 6 years ago

At this point, knowing we can’t pay/offer what UCONN and Pitt can...I believe DH is gone.

mstyles22 · Unread post by **mstyles22** » 6 years ago

The speculation floating around in this age of information is dizzying. Already reading debates about Harris decommiting: Does he follow Dan to UConn or go to Xavier which was his 2nd choice? Lol

It’s madness. I might put my phone under the bed for 48 hours and check the updates on Wednesday.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 6 years ago

Harris will go where Cox goes.

Da_Process_Survivor · Unread post by **Da_Process_Survivor** » 6 years ago

DC_Rams wrote:At this point, knowing we can’t pay/offer what UCONN and Pitt can...I believe DH is gone.

already said no to 3 mill a year at a B1G school

VCUDevDog · Unread post by **VCUDevDog** » 6 years ago

theblueram wrote:
VCUDevDog wrote:Hope this isnt true . But if it is its likely that recruits will follow. This is the time for you the fans to rally around the recruits. Remind them that URI is more than 1 man. When Will Wade left us last year VCU fans bombarded recruits via twitter telling them to stay. We ended up keeping 3 of the 5 incoming. I think a lot of that had to do with the amount of attention fans showed. You will survive this.
The recruits signed an NLOI. There are conditions that can be put on them to release a player.

Those letter of intents mean nothing if the coach leave and the recruit want to leave. Rarely do schools keep players that want a release after the recruiting coach leaves. Its not fair to the recruit. Trust me, If VCU couldve held on to some of the kids who we signed we would be a top 25 program.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 6 years ago

Da_Process_Survivor wrote:
DC_Rams wrote:At this point, knowing we can’t pay/offer what UCONN and Pitt can...I believe DH is gone.
already said no to 3 mill a year at a B1G school

I’d have a hard time saying “no” to 3 million dollars twice.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 6 years ago

DC_Rams wrote:Harris will go where Cox goes.

Can prevent that on a NLOI release

BleedBlue87 · Unread post by **BleedBlue87** » 6 years ago

theblueram wrote:
You are just jumping the gun on this. A coach has no control over recruits who signed an NLOI. The school does. Only the school can release a recruit and can put conditions on the release.

I get that but we've all seen times where recruits transfer to where the new coach is. Anyways, don't need to worry about for another day or so anyhow

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 6 years ago

Da_Process_Survivor wrote:
DC_Rams wrote:At this point, knowing we can’t pay/offer what UCONN and Pitt can...I believe DH is gone.
already said no to 3 mill a year at a B1G school

UCONN >> Rutgers

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 6 years ago

VCUDevDog wrote:
theblueram wrote:
VCUDevDog wrote:Hope this isnt true . But if it is its likely that recruits will follow. This is the time for you the fans to rally around the recruits. Remind them that URI is more than 1 man. When Will Wade left us last year VCU fans bombarded recruits via twitter telling them to stay. We ended up keeping 3 of the 5 incoming. I think a lot of that had to do with the amount of attention fans showed. You will survive this.
The recruits signed an NLOI. There are conditions that can be put on them to release a player.
Those letter of intents mean nothing if the coach leave and the recruit want to leave. Rarely do schools keep players that want a release after the recruiting coach leaves. Its not fair to the recruit. Trust me, If VCU couldve held on to some of the kids who we signed we would be a top 25 program.

Not saying you don't give the release, but there are terms that should be put on it. Like no coaches schools.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 6 years ago

BleedBlue87 wrote:
NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
BleedBlue87 wrote:
If he leaves its because he had no intention of building this into some gonzaga of the east. I'll give him a thanks, unless he takes recruits, then I'll give him a fuck you.
"unless he takes recruits...then...FU?" Really? The guy deserves thanks and good luck...that's it. Just a guess, but if he goes (and I don't think we really have any more insight into that than we did a month ago) and we brought in a 'name' coach...and that coach brought his recruits...most here would probably be okay with that...just a guess tho...?
Nope, it will be an FU if takes the recruits. Leaves URI in a tough spot. I can't be happy with that.

So...then...if any incoming coach brought his, would you say 'no, we don't want those' ?
(Kinda sounds like a moot point anyway....?)

VCUDevDog · Unread post by **VCUDevDog** » 6 years ago

If the coach leaves. An the recruit wants out of thr NLOI . Usually the school releases them. No one wants a player who doesn't want to play for them. On the positive side that gives the new coach a chance to recruit his own players that matches his philosophy.

NJ03 · Unread post by **NJ03** » 6 years ago

DC_Rams wrote:At this point, knowing we can’t pay/offer what UCONN and Pitt can...I believe DH is gone.

We couldn’t pay what Rutgers was offering either. Let’s settle down until we hear final news. We should all be veterans with this stuff by now. Not our first rodeo.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 6 years ago

NJ03 wrote:
DC_Rams wrote:At this point, knowing we can’t pay/offer what UCONN and Pitt can...I believe DH is gone.
We couldn’t pay what Rutgers was offering either. Let’s settle down until we hear final news. We should all be veterans with this stuff by now. Not our first rodeo.

Whatever helps you sleep. This one is different on so many levels.

BleedBlue87 · Unread post by **BleedBlue87** » 6 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
So...then...if any incoming coach brought his, would you say 'no, we don't want those' ?
(Kinda sounds like a moot point anyway....?)

Nope, would welcome them with open arms. I only care about this program. No other program.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 6 years ago

You never want to be holding an 18 year old kid hostage for an NLOI.

Kinda crazy DH met with both Pitt and Uconn today. Thats a lot of work less than 48 hours after Saturday.

Puck Frovidence · Unread post by **Puck Frovidence** » 6 years ago

EVERYBODY BREATHE

This thread has reached true cuckoo for cocoa puffs status. I can't say I blame anyone here for freaking out, it's a very fucking stressful thing we've got going on but I think TP and BM have the right idea - donate what you can, renew tickets, drop a line to Dan, Thorr and Dooley and try not to let it eat you up. That's all you can do to help, and if it doesn't work and he jumps anyways you will have done us good for the future.

Stay off Twitter if you can. I have to say I'm kind of surprised at the general glee of UConn fans taunting Rhody and lording "it" over us (despite there being nothing close to an official "it" and their insistence that we are peons beneath their notice). It's not a great look, especially if Dan sticks around or chooses a better destination...by which I also mean sticking around

. There have been precious few facts and lots of typical social media "telephone" and echo chamber bullshit. You can't stop it happening by inflicting all that garbage on yourself.

He may stay, he may go, but we know who DH is and has been the whole time: a high character guy who surrounds himself with high character people and has done immeasurable good for this program, university and community. That ain't changing because some Huskies fans online are dicks, and a few sportswriters have a slow newsday.

BleedBlue87 · Unread post by **BleedBlue87** » 6 years ago

BleedBlue87 wrote:
NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
So...then...if any incoming coach brought his, would you say 'no, we don't want those' ?
(Kinda sounds like a moot point anyway....?)
Nope, would welcome them with open arms. I only care about this program. No other program.

And before you say it. It's completely irrational and hypocritical and I don't care.

VCUDevDog · Unread post by **VCUDevDog** » 6 years ago

You all will be fine. It sucks for sure. But the fans mean a lot more than a coach. Hurley is a great coach but URI was here before he came and will be here long after he is gone. You all have a foundation to build on. I think you can do what Buffalo did this year , next year.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 6 years ago

VCUDevDog wrote:If the coach leaves. An the recruit wants out of thr NLOI . Usually the school releases them. No one wants a player who doesn't want to play for them. On the positive side that gives the new coach a chance to recruit his own players that matches his philosophy.

OK 5 post Charlie.

skwalk47 · Unread post by **skwalk47** » 6 years ago

When a coach goes, I 100% support giving the recruit's a chance to change their mind. These are kids after-all, most of whom will not play basketball professionally, yet will be expected to essentially be a professional athlete for the next 4 years.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 6 years ago

I am still worried about Louisville primarily.

Squeaky clean DH is exactly what they need and they can pay whatever Dan’s agent demands. If jumping for money grab and fame well there it is.

After seeing Dan’s growth over the last 2 seasons he’s my choice over Mack and it ain’t close.

The good side of my worry is respectfully our players and recruits likely not good enough to steal for the Cardinals.

Agree it would be painful to have our ex coach so close. I still ain’t buying the uConn thing anyway.

It’s possibly Dan’s last stand to get promises from Rhody about getting all the tools he feels he needs to be Gonzaga. Let’s hope admin seizes the moment!

Go Rhody!

skwalk47 · Unread post by **skwalk47** » 6 years ago

PS on today's CBS sports podcast, before these reports even came out, Gary Parish and Matt Norlander both said they thought Hurley had coached his last game at URI.

Bigsnoop · Unread post by **Bigsnoop** » 6 years ago

BleedBlue87 wrote:
theblueram wrote:
You are just jumping the gun on this. A coach has no control over recruits who signed an NLOI. The school does. Only the school can release a recruit and can put conditions on the release.
I get that but we've all seen times where recruits transfer to where the new coach is. Anyways, don't need to worry about for another day or so anyhow

A school can release a player from his LOI, but can't put conditions on the release. It's all or nothing, and the school always releases the player because if you don't, it's used against you in recruiting.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 6 years ago

Rome wasn't built in a day, what we can offer may be close to maxed out now, but if we keep on this trajectory in another 3-5 years we should be in a better position to provide substantoially more. Does he want to continue to build the house here and reap the rewards as they become available or does he want a turnkey program?...reminds me of that show my wife used to watch on HGTV Love it or List it. To me its always been a more rewarding feeling to build something rather than buy or outsource it.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 6 years ago

I can say one thing. Every last dime of the NCAA credits better be on the table, because this school hasn't seen any since 1999.

NickA · Unread post by **NickA** » 6 years ago

Well, can't hurt, I'm going to renew my four seats tonight.

Surfri72 · Unread post by **Surfri72** » 6 years ago

If he leaves just don’t hire Jerry D.

Kingston · Unread post by **Kingston** » 6 years ago

I think let Dan Go. Cox is the guy we want. Dan is gonna go, if not now soon Take the 1.5 mil we get on the buy out. sink it into the facility. We wait a year we may lose both. Allthese young players are from Cox. Hes the guy I want, good luck Dan, Thank You. But truth is we are just a step in his ladder. Cox and staff we lead us to more NCAA's he recruits the best talent we get the best facilities and we are all set for along time.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 6 years ago

Kingston wrote:I think let Dan Go. Cox is the guy we want. Dan is gonna go, if not now soon Take the 1.5 mil we get on the buy out. sink it into the facility. We wait a year we may lose both. Allthese young players are from Cox. Hes the guy I want, good luck Dan, Thank You. But truth is we are just a step in his ladder. Cox and staff we lead us to more NCAA's he recruits the best talent we get the best facilities and we are all set for along time.

“Let Dan go.”

Yea dude you can go take a hike.

rhodysurf · Unread post by **rhodysurf** » 6 years ago

Seawrightspostgame wrote:You never want to be holding an 18 year old kid hostage for an NLOI.

Kinda crazy DH met with both Pitt and Uconn today. Thats a lot of work less than 48 hours after Saturday.

Lol he did say he was taking ONE day to hibernate...

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 6 years ago

Bigsnoop wrote:
BleedBlue87 wrote:
theblueram wrote:
You are just jumping the gun on this. A coach has no control over recruits who signed an NLOI. The school does. Only the school can release a recruit and can put conditions on the release.
I get that but we've all seen times where recruits transfer to where the new coach is. Anyways, don't need to worry about for another day or so anyhow
A school can release a player from his LOI, but can't put conditions on the release. It's all or nothing, and the school always releases the player because if you don't, it's used against you in recruiting.

This is just untrue

Running Ram · Unread post by **Running Ram** » 6 years ago

So he's finding out what his market value is before talking to thorr and co. that's responsible and what happens every year. Those who said this was a done deal and it was decided weeks ago are just wrong so there will be no gloating on your part, if he stays, if he goes, he gives Rhody a chance to keep him as most of the fans that have paid attention to DH from the beginning knew all along.

mstyles22 · Unread post by **mstyles22** » 6 years ago

More speculation so skip if you’re tired of the madness, BUT...

- Why would Dan take the UConn job so soon if those reports were indeed true?
- What if Willard leaves Seton Hall for Pitt and that job opens up? I bet Dan would hypothetically kick himself as SHU seems like the ideal gig for him in a million ways that UConn isn’t.

This is all madness, but I thought that scenario was worth mentioning.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 6 years ago

Crazy that this forum just set a record for most users online at one time!

Running Ram · Unread post by **Running Ram** » 6 years ago

How about Tom Ryan securing his legacy at URI by stepping in and helping keep Hurley?

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 6 years ago

Bottom line, Dan may not end up at UCONN or Pitt, but he’s gone this off-season if Louisville, Xavier and/or SHU open up.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 6 years ago

OMG. Seton Hall?! No. Just no.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 6 years ago

sf2010 wrote:Crazy that this forum just set a record for most users online at one time!

finally broke that record from Terrell signing I believe

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 6 years ago

Rhody74 wrote:So we’ll know by Wednesday.

I will take the OVER on both 'by Wednesday' and 60+ pages by Thursday

NorthernRamFan · Unread post by **NorthernRamFan** » 6 years ago

DC_Rams wrote:
Cameron_Dollar wrote:Over time it will become common knowledge that this deal was brokered weeks ago. I know many people don't want to hear this but UCONN is big time and would never have done all this without a plan in place. Unlike us who are looking for another diamond in the rough. I do hope we are extending our search beyond David Cox.
We need to hand the reigns over to Cox or we will risk losing every recruit he’s brought in, to include Jeff and Fatts. Be careful what you wish for, Cox is our guy and he deserves the shot.

Amen DC Rams!

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 6 years ago

OK after a couple deep breaths and more Internet hunting I think we are still strongly in play here.

Pitt and uConn are slight upgrades sure. No question in my mind there is bigger money and better jobs out there this season. Louisville, uofA, Xavier, Seton Hall others could open up.

Dan’s talked to two schools and is running back to Thorr?

We are in play.

Pony up Rhody and get the thing done.

Think big, we do (here on KeaneyBlue)

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 6 years ago

sf2010 wrote:Crazy that this forum just set a record for most users online at one time!

Unfortunately I assume schadenfreude has something to do with that record...

mstyles22 · Unread post by **mstyles22** » 6 years ago

Running Ram wrote:How about Tom Ryan securing his legacy at URI by stepping in and helping keep Hurley?

How about Tony Horton even acknowledging to his millions of social media followers and disciples that he’s a URI alum and proud of the hoops team?

Gotta get some positive publicity while we can, haha

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 6 years ago

NorthernRamFan wrote:
DC_Rams wrote:
Cameron_Dollar wrote:Over time it will become common knowledge that this deal was brokered weeks ago. I know many people don't want to hear this but UCONN is big time and would never have done all this without a plan in place. Unlike us who are looking for another diamond in the rough. I do hope we are extending our search beyond David Cox.
We need to hand the reigns over to Cox or we will risk losing every recruit he’s brought in, to include Jeff and Fatts. Be careful what you wish for, Cox is our guy and he deserves the shot.
Amen DC Rams!

We are pretty experienced at giving an assistant the top job to keep a player. Lamar Odom to be specific. I would highly doubt the reason to sign an assistant as Head Coach would be based on current recruits alone.

brady1 · Unread post by **brady1** » 6 years ago

Dcram, give it a rest. We get it you think Dan’s gone and you want Cox to get the gig. But this Cox waterboy thing over and over is getting more annoying than a rombone sky is falling over and over.

GO RHODY!

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 6 years ago

NickA wrote:Well, can't hurt, I'm going to renew my four seats tonight.

Oh I am renewing no matter what. The Rhody Rams are my team.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 6 years ago

twisted3829 wrote:
sf2010 wrote:Crazy that this forum just set a record for most users online at one time!
finally broke that record from Terrell signing I believe

Nope it was the Oregon game but we have destroyed that this evening with Husky and Panther nations reading everything posted.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 6 years ago

a little OT on new member request tonight?

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 6 years ago

brady1 wrote:Dcram, give it a rest. We get it you think Dan’s gone and you want Cox to get the gig. But this Cox waterboy thing over and over is getting more annoying than a rombone sky is falling over and over.

GO RHODY!

Glad I got your attention. I am vying to keep the band together and sharing my opinion like the rest of the board. You don’t like it? GFY...

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