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but still not a q1 win. ;(
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ATPTourFan wrote:Xavier looks like a bumbling, stumbling mess. Chokers.
Agree...first time I've seen them play this year, but...that's a 1 seed?
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RhodyRam86 wrote:but still not a q1 win. ;(
See what tomorrow brings..... ;)
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Duke will get their 1 seed if they win the ACC.....PC will get an 8 or 9.....and lose first round.

We need to play X second round. Winner winner chicken dinner.

PC matches up well with them...they've played them close all 3 games.

They won't beat Villanova.
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
RhodyRam86 wrote:but still not a q1 win. ;(
See what tomorrow brings..... ;)

let me rephrase... still not a q1 win...yet...
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RhodyRam86 wrote:
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RhodyRam86 wrote:but still not a q1 win. ;(
See what tomorrow brings..... ;)

let me rephrase... still not a q1 win...yet...

PC's RPI rank is now for the moment 30 after the win. A home win versus a top with an RPI rank of 1-30 is a Quad 1 victory. URI's December win over the Friars is for the moment a Q1 win.

URI's team sheet as of this moment:
Q1 3-4 Wins: vsSHU/PC/SBU Losses: vsUVa/@Nevada/@Alabama/@SBU
Q2 2-1 Wins: Charleston/@VCU Losses: @Davidson
Q3 10-1 Losses: SJU
Q4 9-0


The key is record versus first two quads. URI is 5-5 but only played three of the ten games at home. That is not the normal ratio for most at large teams.

Keep in mind that the RPI rank is very dynamic and can possibly change with any game outcome.
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Another Q1 win would be nice, but at this point would it matter?
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RF1 wrote:
RhodyRam86 wrote:
NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
See what tomorrow brings..... ;)

let me rephrase... still not a q1 win...yet...

PC's RPI rank is now 30 after the win. A home win versus a top 30 team is a Quad 1. URI's December win over the Friars is for the moment a Q1 win.

I was looking at RPI wizard. It has PC at 32 with a win today and not changing with a loss to Nova tomorrow. Hope yours is more accurate. It would look nice to have a second q1 and possibly a third vs. Bonnies

You may be right too Rambone. May not matter at this point, but certainly won't hurt.
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We already have 2 Q1 wins....and we could end up with 4......

SH and Bonnies earlier this season.
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Will reiterate, I am NOT a PC "fan", but...Cooley's reaction/interview on court after the game was refreshing. Guy was psyched out of his mind and had every reason to be...good for him for showing it. (Although I could do without the 'babies' references...a little weird...just sub 'guys' for that)
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rambone 78 wrote:We already have 2 Q1 wins....and we could end up with 4......

SH and Bonnies earlier this season.

yes...my mistake. still, 3s better than 2 and 4 is better than 3. would look nice if we won the A10 added to other conference champs Charleston, Iona and potentially PC, Bama, Nevada and VIrginia.
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Hey scine20, check out this Nevada game. Top 25 team getting jobbed. Down 23 in the first half.

Edit. Now it is 32 in the first half.
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
ATPTourFan wrote:Xavier looks like a bumbling, stumbling mess. Chokers.
Agree...first time I've seen them play this year, but...that's a 1 seed?
They have lost five games all year, two verses Nova, two vs PC. Sometimes it’s a match up thing.
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What a surprise !! No credit to PC on the ram board. Only that it was because Xavier is no good.
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Nevada is getting smoked losing to San Diego St. 55-25 at the half. With a loss, Nevada's RPI rank of #12 will fall to #16 and cause URI to jump to #14. URI could also possibly jump them for NCAA seeding. Regardless of the outcome today, URI at Nevada will still remain a Quad 1 game. Nevada's loss will however mean one less bubble team as someone from the MWC will get that league's automatic bid and the Wolf Pack will be a lock for an at large.
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woodennickel1 wrote:What a surprise !! No credit to PC on the ram board. Only that it was because Xavier is no good.
Bump. I love the people saying they’d like to see Xavier... that’s just a horrendous take.
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I usually pull vs PC but today I wanted them to beat X
My feeling is X lost their #1 seed and I wouldn't mind us getting them in a 2 v 7
Also glad about Nevada losing means we should pass them and it screws a bubble team out of a bid
Now we need to win this A10 tournament and get no worse than a 7 outside shot at a 6
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woodennickel1 wrote:What a surprise !! No credit to PC on the ram board. Only that it was because Xavier is no good.

I give the friars credit. they have a number of quality wins. 6-8 vs. the top 50 rpi including 3 wins against the top 3 rpi. those are not fluky numbers. btw...we are 3-4 vs. top 50.
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woodennickel1 wrote:What a surprise !! No credit to PC on the ram board. Only that it was because Xavier is no good.
Good point...Only saw from the last 7-8 minutes of regulation on, but...credit to PC. Given X record on the season, the limited defeats, against good opponents...it's no wonder Cooley was so jakked. Great win for those guys and another one of those underdog things that makes March awesome.
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Does PC have a better winning percentage against top 5 teams than they do against the A10 this year?
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Section104 wrote:Does PC have a better winning percentage against top 5 teams than they do against the A10 this year?

yup...3-2 vs top 5. 1-2 vs A10
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Crazy stat !!!!
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They would have struggled to make NCAA playing in A10 this year. Not a lot of chances at quality wins and a lot of land mines (given their OOC). The value of playing in the Big East (and having big time games on your home court).
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reef wrote:Crazy stat !!!!
It is one I like to use when some Friar fans try to discredit URI's record by attributing it all to a weak A-10. They somehow forget that URI is an undefeated 2-0 versus the Big East with both games having been against its better teams while PC has a losing record of 1-2 versus the A-10 with two of the games against the league's lesser teams.
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Section104 wrote:Does PC have a better winning percentage against top 5 teams than they do against the A10 this year?
Wins mean a lot more in March then they do in December.
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ATPTourFan wrote:Xavier doing literally EVERYTHING to lose this game.

BULLSHIT charge. Xavier guy was already going up for his jump before Friar got his two feet set. This is a BLOCK.
Agreed, that is such a "college charge" which unfortunately has crept into the NBA as well. You need to be on some Matrix crap to not plow someone over when they finally set their feet AFTER YOU GO AIRBORNE. To clarify, I'm not some whiner about PC winning, pretty ambivalent about who won. But this charge call which rewards weak ass play just really grinds my gears.

That said, I'm glad the Celtics have Marcus Smart who buys one of those "weak ass plays" every game. :lol:
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rhodyruckus wrote:
ATPTourFan wrote:Xavier doing literally EVERYTHING to lose this game.

BULLSHIT charge. Xavier guy was already going up for his jump before Friar got his two feet set. This is a BLOCK.
Agreed, that is such a "college charge" which unfortunately has crept into the NBA as well. You need to be on some Matrix crap to not plow someone over when they finally set their feet AFTER YOU GO AIRBORNE. To clarify, I'm not some whiner about PC winning, pretty ambivalent about who won. But this charge call which rewards weak ass play just really grinds my gears.

That said, I'm glad the Celtics have Marcus Smart who buys one of those "weak ass plays" every game. :lol:
LOL...agree with all of that, except the part about Smart....I think he gets at least two of those per game, doesn't he? :lol: :lol:
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woodennickel1 wrote:
Section104 wrote:Does PC have a better winning percentage against top 5 teams than they do against the A10 this year?
Wins mean a lot more in March then they do in December.
I don’t disagree. It’s nice they have the opportunity to correct these early season missteps. They wouldn’t have that opportunity in the A10 and i believe they’d be on the outside looking in
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woodennickel1 wrote:What a surprise !! No credit to PC on the ram board. Only that it was because Xavier is no good.
Both can be true: PC did play an excellent game, but Xavier also looked well short of a one seed. Granted, the one seed I've followed most closely and seen up close with them playing the Rams, is Virginia. And they are quite apparently the #1 overall seed by a lot. But X did look very similar to their A10 teams where they'd run away with the title but had an imperfect team bound to be bounced before the elite eight.
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
rhodyruckus wrote:
ATPTourFan wrote:Xavier doing literally EVERYTHING to lose this game.

BULLSHIT charge. Xavier guy was already going up for his jump before Friar got his two feet set. This is a BLOCK.
Agreed, that is such a "college charge" which unfortunately has crept into the NBA as well. You need to be on some Matrix crap to not plow someone over when they finally set their feet AFTER YOU GO AIRBORNE. To clarify, I'm not some whiner about PC winning, pretty ambivalent about who won. But this charge call which rewards weak ass play just really grinds my gears.

That said, I'm glad the Celtics have Marcus Smart who buys one of those "weak ass plays" every game. :lol:
LOL...agree with all of that, except the part about Smart....I think he gets at least two of those per game, doesn't he? :lol: :lol:
Totally...Marcus needs to take his talents to Hollywood and get in the actors union after retiring to take those stunt dives after getting "shot" in action movies.
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Nevada loses in the MW semis to San Diego State, 90-73. Overall the loss by the Wolfpack was actually worse than the one suffered by URI to St. Joe's if that is possible. Nevada was out of game in the first 12 minutes and was down by 34 points just before the close of first half. In early February Nevada beat San Diego St. by 25 points! Let's see if the Rams can pull off a reversal of this magnitude versus St. Joe's.
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Section104 wrote:
woodennickel1 wrote:
Section104 wrote:Does PC have a better winning percentage against top 5 teams than they do against the A10 this year?
Wins mean a lot more in March then they do in December.
I don’t disagree. It’s nice they have the opportunity to correct these early season missteps. They wouldn’t have that opportunity in the A10 and i believe they’d be on the outside looking in
No they would just win the tournament.
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Sorry don’t watch PC hoops

What’d I miss?
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woodennickel1 wrote:
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woodennickel1 wrote:
Wins mean a lot more in March then they do in December.
I don’t disagree. It’s nice they have the opportunity to correct these early season missteps. They wouldn’t have that opportunity in the A10 and i believe they’d be on the outside looking in
No they would just win the tournament.
You guys just had a huge win in the conf tourney over a 1 seed and you're arguing with URI fans on their message board. Think about that for a second.
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woodennickel1 wrote:
Section104 wrote:Does PC have a better winning percentage against top 5 teams than they do against the A10 this year?
Wins mean a lot more in March then they do in December.
Not according to the selection committee.
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Gators lose now 20-12 can they fall off the 6 line ?? That's a lot of losses
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woodennickel1 wrote:
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woodennickel1 wrote:
Wins mean a lot more in March then they do in December.
I don’t disagree. It’s nice they have the opportunity to correct these early season missteps. They wouldn’t have that opportunity in the A10 and i believe they’d be on the outside looking in
No they would just win the tournament.
Yeah, as long as you don't play the A10 superpower, UMass, who beat you by 10 pts
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adam914 wrote:
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I don’t disagree. It’s nice they have the opportunity to correct these early season missteps. They wouldn’t have that opportunity in the A10 and i believe they’d be on the outside looking in
No they would just win the tournament.
You guys just had a huge win in the conf tourney over a 1 seed and you're arguing with URI fans on their message board. Think about that for a second.
Good thing for them they don't consider it to be a rivalry -- they'd be posting here more than we do.
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ATPTourFan wrote:So is Parrish. He says the Committee needs to make an example of them.

Imagine being a St Mary’s fan or player. You play is a garbage league and your coach is a coward and potentially wasting your chance to Dance.

From Athletic’s Bubble Watch

Saint Mary's (28-5, 16-2 – RPI: 43, SOS: 171) Since last we convened, Saint Mary's dipped from the WCC tournament earlier than anyone expected. That loss to BYU on Monday made an already unfortunate bubble situation even more lamentable. There is no reason a team this good should be sweating so seriously two days before Selection Sunday. But as we've written in the past, an atrocious, unstrategic nonconference schedule left Saint Mary's reliant on essentially one opponent for quality wins: Gonzaga. There's very little else here. Hopefully the committee doesn't do anything crazy? Either way, it didn't need to be like this. Just … go play some people. It's not that hard.


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adam914 wrote:
woodennickel1 wrote:
Section104 wrote:
I don’t disagree. It’s nice they have the opportunity to correct these early season missteps. They wouldn’t have that opportunity in the A10 and i believe they’d be on the outside looking in
No they would just win the tournament.
You guys just had a huge win in the conf tourney over a 1 seed and you're arguing with URI fans on their message board. Think about that for a second.
Last 3 games vs the vaunted Big East for URI
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I hardly think that PC gets a bad wrap on this Board

Heck if PC Plays URI in the first Round of the NCAA Tournament, which is not far fetched at all, I can think right off the top of my head of 5 Posters on this Board who will have a very tough time deciding which team to root for :lol: :lol: :lol: or then again maybe it won't be as tough as I think. Your PC Scout Message Board has Zero Posters who are really URI Fans in disguise, unlike here.
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I'd love to have the friars in our bracket. They might be able to upset one of the higher seeds making our road a little easier.
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St Mary’s finished the season as the number 20 team in all the land. The NCAA is designed to select the best teams for the tournament. So how would they be left out? The rankings are not completely crap.
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They played nobody....have 1 good win.....have gone out of their way to NOT schedule anybody good OOC.....

Also [this doesn't matter to the committee though] they wouldn't play us.....and backed out of next season's tourney where they would have to play at least a couple of good teams.
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Is St Mary's better than Middle Tennessee? Middle Tenn is being left out because they lost their good OOC games. But at least they played them! If ST Mary's gets in, they are getting rewarding for that scheduling tactic. How about Louisiana U if they don't win their tourney? It's tough for mid-majors but they have to get every game they can, like we did and will continue doing. Like Gonzaga did and does. St Mary's should be out IMO.
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rambone 78 wrote:Duke will get their 1 seed if they win the ACC.....PC will get an 8 or 9.....and lose first round.

We need to play X second round. Winner winner chicken dinner.

PC matches up well with them...they've played them close all 3 games.

They won't beat Villanova.
You may be right about us loosing to Nova but to say we will lose first round without even knowing who we are playing is just plain ignorant.
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Lots of action as Saturday as we will see fourteen more cards punched for the Big Dance.

The conferences holding their Championship Finals are:

America East: Vermont vs. UMBC. Currently underway on ESPN2.

MEAC: N.C. Central vs. Hampton. 1 PM. On ESPN2.

SWAC: Texas Southern vs. Arkansas-Pine Bluff. 5 PM. On ESPN2.

Big 12: West Virginia vs. Kansas. 6 PM. On ESPN.

Mountain West: San Diego State vs. New Mexico. 6 PM. On CBS.

MAC: Buffalo vs. Toledo. 6:30 PM. On ESPN2.

Big East: PC vs. Villanova. 6:30 PM. On Fox.

Big Sky: E. Washington vs. Montana. 8 PM. On ESPNU.

ACC : North Carolina vs. Virginia. 8:30 PM. On ESPN.

C-USA: Marshall vs. Western Kentucky. 8:30PM. On CBSSN.

Southland: Stephen F. Austin vs. SE Louisiana. 9 PM. On ESPN2.

PAC-12: USC vs. Arizona. 10 PM. On FS1.

WAC: Grand Canyon vs. New Mexico State. 10 PM. On ESPNU.

Big West: CS-Fullerton vs. UC Irvine. 11:59 PM. On ESPN2.
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dagger by umbc to vermont's heart. step back three ftw. vermont lost one other game since conference play started
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urirx wrote:dagger by umbc to vermont's heart. step back three ftw. vermont lost one other game since conference play started
This is the main reason why I think the auto-bid should be awarded to the regular season conference champion. Vermont is clearly the best team in their conference, yet they're not the ones who get a bid
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URI'21 wrote:
urirx wrote:dagger by umbc to vermont's heart. step back three ftw. vermont lost one other game since conference play started
This is the main reason why I think the auto-bid should be awarded to the regular season conference champion. Vermont is clearly the best team in their conference, yet they're not the ones who get a bid
nah...the conference tourney set up is still worth it imo
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
URI'21 wrote:
urirx wrote:dagger by umbc to vermont's heart. step back three ftw. vermont lost one other game since conference play started
This is the main reason why I think the auto-bid should be awarded to the regular season conference champion. Vermont is clearly the best team in their conference, yet they're not the ones who get a bid
nah...the conference tourney set up is still worth it imo
They're awesome to watch and generate a lot of revenue... but its not the best way to ensure that the best team from a conference advances
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