General Recruiting Discussion/Comments 2022 and before

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Yes to Berry, Bah! to Ba.

At least Ba would be a true Ram….

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

bressler3south wrote:
What's the stat-line from in your eyes, Ace? Dancin' With the Stars?

I don't know what this means.

STC · Unread post by **STC** » 9 years ago

It's amazing how people on this board can be so critical of EC but as soon as you call it like it is with Matt Butler everyone comes to his defense.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 9 years ago

EC is the man.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

STC wrote:It's amazing how people on this board can be so critical of EC but as soon as you call it like it is with Matt Butler everyone comes to his defense.

No, it's not Matt Butler per se that what it's about. It's about recognizing to admitting to writing something in black and white that shouldn't be so difficult no matter whom you are.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

ace wrote:
RIFan wrote:I think people what to know who replaces Gil & Biggie. Four replaces Butler, and I assume Iverson replaces Reischel at playing the 3/4.
Four replaces Matt? As what, the guy who dances in the middle of the circle? That's not a knock on Matt- he's a quality guy, but Four is going to play.

In: McGlynn, Iverson, Thompson, Butts, big man TBD (there's going to be one)
Out: Buchanan, Biruta (sigh), Butler, Reischel, Minnis
Staying: 58% of the minutes and 65% of the scoring in 14-15 in Matthews, Martin, Garrett, and Terrell plus Watson and Onyekaba

Plus, two more spots, one of which will likely be a transfer. Now, we know that they can't just equal the lost production with the new guys and improvement of the holdovers. The expectations are raised, and they must exceed it.

This is what I wrote about Matt. From a production/numbers standpoint, there's little to replace. For what it's worth, I nominate Jarvis to be the next dance in the middle of the team circle/hype guy. He could carry that off very well. Also, I think we see both sophomores, as well as maybe a more settled EC, take on those TJ qualities that we love so much on the court.

As for Ba and Berry, much like we talk about the difference between offers and "offers" to recruits, all visits are not the same, either. Some guys get the royal treatment, other guys are welcomed but also seem to understand that they're in for a try-out, not just some simple court time with the guys.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

ace wrote:
ace wrote:
RIFan wrote:I think people what to know who replaces Gil & Biggie. Four replaces Butler, and I assume Iverson replaces Reischel at playing the 3/4.
Four replaces Matt? As what, the guy who dances in the middle of the circle? That's not a knock on Matt- he's a quality guy, but Four is going to play.

In: McGlynn, Iverson, Thompson, Butts, big man TBD (there's going to be one)
Out: Buchanan, Biruta (sigh), Butler, Reischel, Minnis
Staying: 58% of the minutes and 65% of the scoring in 14-15 in Matthews, Martin, Garrett, and Terrell plus Watson and Onyekaba

Plus, two more spots, one of which will likely be a transfer. Now, we know that they can't just equal the lost production with the new guys and improvement of the holdovers. The expectations are raised, and they must exceed it.
This is what I wrote about Matt. From a production/numbers standpoint, there's little to replace. For what it's worth, I nominate Jarvis to be the next dance in the middle of the team circle/hype guy. He could carry that off very well. Also, I think we see both sophomores, as well as maybe a more settled EC, take on those TJ qualities that we love so much on the court.

As for Ba and Berry, much like we talk about the difference between offers and "offers" to recruits, all visits are not the same, either. Some guys get the royal treatment, other guys are welcomed but also seem to understand that they're in for a try-out, not just some simple court time with the guys.

This is what you also wrote, and to what I now refer to as "Atypical Ace," because of it's personal nature. Whatever. It is what it is, whoever wrote it or not.

Four replaces Matt? As what, the guy who dances in the middle of the circle? That's not a knock on Matt- he's a quality guy, but Four is going to play.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

That's literally the first thing I re-quoted. Matt was always the guy in the middle of the player's circle. How is that a personal insult? He brought energy but not statistical production. It didn't work out for him at Rhode Island from a playing perspective. I wish it had, but it happens. That's all.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 9 years ago

Butler, just like another former player, is getting more ink now than when he was on the team.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 9 years ago

please forgive me for starting this.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 9 years ago

Wyatt Walker, a 6-9 240lb PF/C from Jacksonville, FL just decommitted from Princeton and reopened his recruitment. Supposedly Georgetown was interested in him before he declared for Princeton. I wonder if he's someone Dan would be interested in? He averaged 18.1 points and 11.5 rebounds per game a 3-year starter at his high school (Providence HS) ....

http://jacksonville.com/sports/basketba ... er-success

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 9 years ago

More on Walker from when Princeton announced his commitment:

Wyatt Walker led his Providence team to a 31-1 record and a FHSAA 3A State Championship in his senior season. Walker finished his high school career with a 138-10 record including four consecutive state semifinals and two state titles. Walker also stands among the career leaders in multiple categories at Providence including first in rebounds (1,015), third in points (1,408), second in blocks and third in assists. As a senior, Walker earned Jacksonville.com Player of the Year honors as well as Prep Hoops Florida Class 3A Player of the Year recognition. Walker was a core member of the very successful Nike Team Florida program throughout his AAU career.

“Wyatt is a highly skilled big man with an extremely high basketball IQ. He has a unique ability as a post player to create offensive opportunities for his teammates while also being a scoring threat himself. Wyatt is a high character kid and possesses all the intangibles that will make him a great teammate and a perfect addition to Princeton University and its basketball program.” -- Eric Williams, Florida/Georgia Hoops Report

“Wyatt has a great feel for the game. He’s an exceptional passer and has a nose for the ball that has made him a highly successful high school player. He played at an outstanding high school program in Providence and always seems to make those around him better. Simply put, he is a winner, and we are very pleased that he’ll be a Tiger next season.” -- Mitch Henderson

I wonder why he decommitted? Grades? Wish for a higher level conference?

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 9 years ago

I don't like that floor behind him. Maybe an omen?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Why three posts on a guy we never recruited?
Walker also held offers from Brown, William & Mary, Holy Cross, Lehigh, and Fordham.
He's rated as a two star.
Judge players by who's recruiting them. Those schools don't fit our profile at all.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Why three posts on a guy we never recruited?
Walker also held offers from Brown, William & Mary, Holy Cross, Lehigh, and Fordham.
He's rated as a two star.
Judge players by who's recruiting them. Those schools don't fit our profile at all.

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Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 9 years ago

Rod, it was an illustration that there are guys out there. I also saw that Georgetown was interested in him.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

74, not faulting you for passing on information, and you're right.
There are kids still out there.
What we're seeing is the result of the small circle of bigs we were involved with
all year.
Now, we have little to no connection with anyone, and guys like Ba and Berry are
the kind of desperate reaches, Dan railed against, when he got here.

Keaney.Blue · Unread post by **Keaney.Blue** » 9 years ago

Rhody74 wrote:Rod, it was an illustration that there are guys out there. I also saw that Georgetown was interested in him.

Interest means nothing

I also had Northwestern, Iowa, and West Virginia "interested" in me AKA they came to an open gym to see me play and watched 1-2 of my games on tape and would check in every few weeks. That's also part of the publicity game, your AAU coach says you have high majors interested to get the mid-majors to make a move

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

27 pages of "General Recruiting Discussion/Comments" and counting…….Perhaps, we should re-start at a BIG FAT ZERO?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

I guess the good news is, the guys who were on campus
this weekend, came and left.
No news there is good news. I've been afraid of opening this part
of the site and seeing, "URI Commit" next to Ba or Berry's thread.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:I guess the good news is, the guys who were on campus
this weekend, came and left.
No news there is good news. I've been afraid of opening this part
of the site and seeing, "URI Commit" next to Ba or Berry's thread.

Well, for those who over-indulge in the Cinco de Mayo Celebraciones, maybe it will read "URI Commit" and then they can go puke their respective brains out and wake up the next day and realize that it's the "Seis de Mayo Realidades" and go back to work feeling better all-the-way-around.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 9 years ago

Keaney.Blue wrote:
Rhody74 wrote:Rod, it was an illustration that there are guys out there. I also saw that Georgetown was interested in him.
Interest means nothing

I also had Northwestern, Iowa, and West Virginia "interested" in me AKA they came to an open gym to see me play and watched 1-2 of my games on tape and would check in every few weeks. That's also part of the publicity game, your AAU coach says you have high majors interested to get the mid-majors to make a move

Which school did you finally choose? lol

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

OK, Murray leaving for Xavier opens up a position to
put a real big man coach on staff.
FWIW, I wrote Thorr, suggesting ARD, for obvious reasons.
I know the decision rests with Dan, but maybe ARD can break
the Jersey Boys club?

zporiri · Unread post by **zporiri** » 9 years ago

who is ARD? see the initials/acronym/nickname all the time and have been trying to figure out who it is but cant...sorry if it's a dumb question

Shaolin Swat · Unread post by **Shaolin Swat** » 9 years ago

zporiri wrote:who is ARD? see the initials/acronym/nickname all the time and have been trying to figure out who it is but cant...sorry if it's a dumb question

Antonio Reynolds-Dean

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Antonio Reynolds Dean
One of the best 6'5 big men in URI history. And a fan favorite. Played for the 97,98,99 NCAA teams.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

ARD's love for URI is epic.
Can't imagine a better choice.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 9 years ago

For younger fans, this is why we love ARD:

http://www.onebidwonders.com/2015/01/16 ... oming-man/

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Great minds think alike!
I just posted this story on the Murray thread.

Ashcat · Unread post by **Ashcat** » 9 years ago

I'm starting to get nervous. Roster emptying, loss of Luke Murray, no real news on the recruiting front. I did get the email from URI Athletics' regarding the season tickets renewal though.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Ashcat wrote:I'm starting to get nervous. Roster emptying, loss of Luke Murray, no real news on the recruiting front. I did get the email from URI Athletics' regarding the season tickets renewal though.

We have the weirdest fans. For the most part, its all good news. I get that we could use a big guy. Otherwise, we are in as good of shape as we've been in in 15 years.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

TP, I understand that you think we're in good shape.

We are, except we have NO frontcourt depth.

What happens if Hassan goes down for an extended period? Play 5 guards? The core 4 plus Iverson? Great. Who backs them up? We could use another PG too.

There are some talented big men in the A10.

We need one or two more bigs that can play a little. They don't have to be 5 star recruits.

If we don't get any for 2015, 2016 becomes even more important.

Dan will bring in somebody for next season. Somebody who, however?

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 9 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Otherwise, we are in as good of shape as we've been in in 15 years.

Yep.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

I would qualify that statement.
IF Iverson is anywhere near the player Dan thinks he could be,
and somehow, we come up with a backup PG, you could say that.
However, we lost Gilvydas and haven't come close to replaced him.
A big with some skill, who despite being agonizingly inconsistent,
teams had to game plan for him, in case the "Good Gil" showed up.
We lost the best off the bench guy in TJ. Maybe Thompson/Four/Butts can replace his
stats, but what about his defense and his intensity.
We lost our backup PG, who despite not living up to the hype,
was the only guy on the team besides Jarvis with a positive assist.turnover ratio.
I don't see anyone on the present roster being a backup PG, especially if
Jarvis is injured or out for any period of time.
So, be as happy happy, joy joy as you all were two years ago.
I hope you're right.
Many questions to be answered before you are.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

You are correct, Rod.

We are really in a situation not unlike last year.

Our "depth" is unproven. We will have a very solid starting 5, but beyond that, is anybody's guess.

No frontcourt depth until tonight [Berry?] and no proven backup PG.

Really paper thin. If the newbies are at least as good as those who left, we'll be OK. If not?

If we didn't foul so much, maybe we could be like PC with Cotton, or Temple was for years.

That is, trot a talented ironman starting 5 out there, and all play as close to 40 minutes as possible.

With the style we play, whether it's half court or uptempo, that's not happening.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 9 years ago

We still gotta figure out how to score this offseason as well.

Ashcat · Unread post by **Ashcat** » 9 years ago

I'm impressed TP that you in fact realize. That we indeed need a real five. Oh and a bench that needs shoring up. Oh and a replacement for coach Murray who can bring some recruiting skills with him

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

Ashcat wrote:I'm impressed TP that you in fact realize. That we indeed need a real five. Oh and a bench that needs shoring up. Oh and a replacement for coach Murray who can bring some recruiting skills with him

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Ashcat · Unread post by **Ashcat** » 9 years ago

As long as we are off topic....Ashcat is my 22 lbs. pain-in-the-ass Nebulung....Quite a rare cat. He's big, but not tall enough to play five for us.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Nice! I own two Maine Coons. Love cats and dogs!

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

Ashcat wrote:As long as we are off topic....Ashcat is my 22 lbs. pain-in-the-ass Nebulung....Quite a rare cat. He's big, but not tall enough to play five for us.

But big enough to guard Young Mr. Berry!

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Is Ashcat the XL, L, M version of the Nebulung, Ashcat?

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Nice! I own two Maine Coons. Love cats and dogs!

Love your household, Rod!!!!!

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rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Yes, I do too, Bress.
I will tell you that the two girls cause more damage around here
than both giant dogs, and all four cats combined.

Ashcat · Unread post by **Ashcat** » 9 years ago

As long as we are talking pets, I also have a pound cat we adopted. Her mother and all of her siblings were eaten by dogs as she gave birth outside. She survived on formula hand fed from a syringe. She's sweet. The Nebulung breed is an off-spring of the Russian Blue and ours is an XXL Bressler. We took him home when he was a puffball. Never stopped growing as my wife and I watched and said WTF? Thanks for the video, never saw that one.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Ugh! What a horrible story!

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

So, with Berry and Akele committing, we have one scholly left. Does that go to a transfer now?

DeanDome88 · Unread post by **DeanDome88** » 9 years ago

The 2015 recruiting class is looking pretty solid now.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:So, with Berry and Akele committing, we have one scholly left. Does that go to a transfer now?

My guess is they hang on to it, and if the right transfer comes along they go for it. Always nice to have that in your back pocket.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 9 years ago

We still have only one point guard for next year. If we can't get a quality freshman or juco, a fifth yr. player would be nice.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

For those interested in URI targets and others, here's a link for the Jam Fest:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/HGJamFest?src=hash

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