BubbleWatch and Top 25 Polls

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:The difference is, we will be a hell of a lot better than 7-7 at this point next season.

Of course, GW lost some key guys, bigger losses than we will have next season.

Not to diss Gil and TJ either, but the replacements we have coming in should more than make up for their loss. And we're not done yet with recruiting either.

Plus, another year of improvement for our core four.

I think losing Gil and TJ will be real losses for this team that won't necessarily be made up for by incoming players alone, at least right away. Especially TJ, whose impact goes way beyond the box score. However, I expect next year's team to be better than this year's in large part because of the continued growth of the Core Four.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Also, there is one recruit still unknown.
Much depends on who the big man coming in is,
and any impact he'll have.
TJ's spirit is already in Terrell. Still, he'll be very
hard to replace for so many reasons.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

Gil and TJ are staying forever. I don't even know what you people are talking about.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Haven't you heard?
They're both going to Seton Hall with Dan, as soon as the season ends.
TJ and Gilvydas will have assumed new identities, to
keep playing.
Does anyone know where to find Biruta's Wednesday blog?

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 9 years ago

Gorhody.com

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 9 years ago

Seriously, I could see TJ staying as a grad student assistant or something like that. I think he's got coaching in his blood.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

I went to Go Rhody and couldn't find it.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 9 years ago

here rod

http://gorhody.com/sports/m-baskbl/2014 ... iruta_blog

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Thanks! Goofy as always. Gotta love it.

STC · Unread post by **STC** » 9 years ago

Oregon with a nice upset over #9 Utah today. Noteworthy as Lunardi has Oregon in the first four out and in front of URI on the bubble.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

PC finally ranked #25 in today's AP. Still waiting full poll to be released.

http://collegebasketball.ap.org/article ... aight-week

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 9 years ago

URI got 3 points

Bee311 · Unread post by **Bee311** » 9 years ago

Rhody74 wrote:Seriously, I could see TJ staying as a grad student assistant or something like that. I think he's got coaching in his blood.

This topic was raised in the Alumni Lounge recently and we were told the team was doing everything they could to keep him here.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

We seem to like being "ranked" #33 in the AP Poll -- that's where we were last time we made an appearance.

Only ONE vote came from John Feinstein who placed us #23, good for 3 points. He also has us one place behind VCU and AHEAD of Providence, so you gotta laugh at the people who submit these poll rankings.

http://www.collegepolltracker.com/baske ... m/uri/2014

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

Today's full AP Poll: http://www.collegepolltracker.com/basketball/

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 9 years ago

ATPTourFan wrote:We seem to like being "ranked" #33 in the AP Poll -- that's where we were last time we made an appearance.

Only ONE vote came from John Feinstein who placed us #23, good for 3 points.

http://www.collegepolltracker.com/baske ... m/uri/2014

He put us one spot ahead of PC, too.

http://collegepolltracker.com/basketbal ... 14/week-16

RAM67 · Unread post by **RAM67** » 9 years ago

ATPTourFan wrote:We seem to like being "ranked" #33 in the AP Poll -- that's where we were last time we made an appearance.

Only ONE vote came from John Feinstein who placed us #23, good for 3 points. He also has us one place behind VCU and AHEAD of Providence, so you gotta laugh at the people who submit these poll rankings.

http://www.collegepolltracker.com/baske ... m/uri/2014

What can you expect from a golf writer?

Frank_Keaney_95 · Unread post by **Frank_Keaney_95** » 9 years ago

So now we're getting no votes in this week's Coaches poll after easily beating low-RPI UMASS at home and lowly George Mason on the road while Davidson is now getting 4 votes in that same poll after barely beating free-falling GW on the road and lowly Fordham at home?

Color me confused??

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

That oversight will be rectified Wednesday night.

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 9 years ago

Frank_Keaney_95 wrote:So now we're getting no votes in this week's Coaches poll after easily beating low-RPI UMASS at home and lowly George Mason on the road while Davidson is now getting 4 votes in that same poll after barely beating free-falling GW on the road and lowly Fordham at home?

Color me confused??

Put it on the bulletin board. We saw where the over-inflated rankings got us in January - I really like the disrespect card a lot more

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

We have to earn everything we get. We haven't done squat in 15 years.

We're not some P5 school that gets votes because of their reputation.

Davidson isn't either, but they have the "it" factor right now. The media loves to pick up on the "little guy done good" angle this time of year.

We need, no, we HAVE to beat them Wednesday, then maybe WE'LL be that team leading up to the Dance!

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

If only 2 teams go to the NCAA from the A10 this year then it is simple, URI has to finish in the Top 2 Atlantic 10 Teams

Davidson is a huge step in that direction.

Winning at Dayton will be another humongous step in that direction

We only play Davidson and Dayton once so these two games are big

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Ramster, there is basically no alternative to winning Wed. night.

If we were to lose, then it's REALLY simple: Win the tourney in NY. No other scenario would exist.

That could be almost impossible if we don't get the bye.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 9 years ago

Disagre. Believe URI has a good shot for at-large with 5 more wins, and think at Dayton to be the most important because it kills multiple birds with one stone ... Top 50 win on the road. If there's one hole on URIs resume besides battling for improved RPI, it's road performance, and not even so much that they have performed bad on the road but that they lack top end wins there. Obviously you want to own home court but don't see losing to Davidson as a make-or-break with Dayton left. If they lose both, then think it's conference tourney or bust.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

I think they could get in losing at LaSalle but beating Davidson and Dayton.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Losing at LaSalle is not an option. They just lost to SLU, albeit on the road.

They aren't that good, but it won't be a cakewalk either.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Rambone, with all due respect, every game since Jan 3rd has been a MUST WIN in your opinion. We get it, they all are important now, but geez just enjoy the ride dude. We arent going to run the table. I go by the belief that good wins trump bad losses....thus I agree, if we beat Dayton and Davidson we could stub our toe once against say Lasalle.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

I know that, I'm just saying we aren't going to lose to them.

I'm actually being confident here.

However, if we have any chance for an at-large bid, I don't think we can afford a loss to LaSalle.

Maybe Dayton, but that's it. Even that's debatable, since we don't have a really good road win on our resume.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

We need resume building wins, Dayton is a chance at that. IMO if we go 3-1 with wins over Davidson, Dayton and St Joe's we are better off than going 3-1 with wins over Davidson, Lasalle and St Joe's. Obv 4-0 makes this all moot.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

I'm going for the moot option.

Can't give the committee bozos any reason to keep us out.

Like I've said, if we're squarely on the cut line March 15th, we're going to get cut.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

not sure why you think that, the ncaa doesnt have a history of jobbing URI with tourney invites.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

When's the last time we were on the bubble on SS?

We don't have the history. We aren't a P5 school.

If it comes down to us and NC State, who gets in? Us and Pittsburgh? Us and Purdue? Us and UCLA?

Us and any number of others? I rest my case.

brady1 · Unread post by **brady1** » 9 years ago

We're Doomed. We'll never make it. Woe is me.

GO RHODY!

kal-65 · Unread post by **kal-65** » 9 years ago

IMO WE GOT JOBBED IN CFL 'S 30 WIN SEASON. I BELIEVE OUR RPI WAS IN HIGH 30 S

THE TOURNEY IS ABOUT WHAT CONFERENCES MAKE THE $$$$.THE LAST 8 IN WILL BELOBBIED BY THE THE BIG 6 CONFERENCES WHO HAVE MEMBERS ON THE COMMITTE.ONLY DICKIE V .COMPLAINS ABOUT THE INEQUITIES

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Um, we never won 30 games in the history of the school.
28-7 under Penders in 1988 was our best win total ever.

brady1 · Unread post by **brady1** » 9 years ago

We lost like 7 of our last 10 one year with Baron to go from a 5-7 seed to off bubble. Another year on bubble then lost last game of year to Zoomass as a heavy home favorite. Then lost 1st game in a10 tourney to Duquesne. It was monumental flops both years. No one had us on the bubble with our finishes either year. We were not Jobbed. We self-destructed. That was BARON!

GO RHODY!

The Dude · Unread post by **The Dude** » 9 years ago

Personally, I think if URI only loses to Dayton and stays in the top 2 in the A-10 when they finish the season...they're probably in.
After watching Dayton play Duquesne, I think URI could definitely beat them, IF they force them to shoot from inside the 3 point line and don't allow open 3pt shots.
It seems like it's basically the "win and your in" situation. If Rhody wins the rest of their conference games(next 4), I think they will definitely make the tournament.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 9 years ago

With us moving down a spot in Bracketology even after a top 50 win against UMASS, I'm starting to think it'll take us winning out, the making the A10 final and losing for an at large bid, unless all the other bubble teams start to falter down the stretch.

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 9 years ago

If only the selection committee used BPI instead of RPI... BPI projects us as the final at-large right now.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... tournament

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 9 years ago

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/forde-min ... ncaab.html

"Rhode Island (31). Record: 19-6, 11-3 in the A-10. RPI: 63. Kenpom: 50. Sagarin: 57. The Rams are ahead of schedule by a year, but behind schedule to make this year’s NCAA tourney. The record is good, but the quality wins are not there – they’re just 1-4 against the RPI top 50 and 4-4 against the top 100. Rhode Island needs a strong last two weeks and then may need to reach the A-10 final to have an at-large shot."

This is pretty accurate. Need to run the table to the A10 final to have a shot. A shot only.

We didn't do what we needed to when we had the opportunities. The nail was in the coffin for our at-large chances after we failed to beat VCU. The St Joes loss padlocked it.

We need to win Brooklyn. There's certainly no reason we can't. We're playing the best basketball of any team in the A10 right now.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 9 years ago

I think it should be mentioned that DH is coaching his best basketball right now. We have talked alot about that here.

He is no Bill Self yet, but he is getting it done. 8/9 with a loose ball 3 anybody?

Obviously the Fordham tip-in but even the Umass loss, they just got hot out of nowhere and had no business of winning.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Hurley is still fairly new to D-1 basketball, and he's in virgin territory,
now.
He's learning about his team, and the opponents.
You can drive yourself crazy, but if you turn the winnable games with
GT, VCU, UMass, and St. Joe's around, you'd have a 23-2 record.
Of course we won at Duquesne and Fordham, which partially balances it out.
Imagine being a GTech fan? Ten loses by 6 points or less!
Close losses make everyone lose sleep.

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 9 years ago

Blue Man wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/news/forde-min ... ncaab.html

"Rhode Island (31). Record: 19-6, 11-3 in the A-10. RPI: 63. Kenpom: 50. Sagarin: 57. The Rams are ahead of schedule by a year, but behind schedule to make this year’s NCAA tourney. The record is good, but the quality wins are not there – they’re just 1-4 against the RPI top 50 and 4-4 against the top 100. Rhode Island needs a strong last two weeks and then may need to reach the A-10 final to have an at-large shot."

This is pretty accurate. Need to run the table to the A10 final to have a shot. A shot only.

We didn't do what we needed to when we had the opportunities. The nail was in the coffin for our at-large chances after we failed to beat VCU. The St Joes loss padlocked it.

We need to win Brooklyn. There's certainly no reason we can't. We're playing the best basketball of any team in the A10 right now.

What sucks is... if we run the table to finish out the regular season, we're most likely the 1 seed and VCU is most likely the 2. Which means the only chance we'd play VCU in Brooklyn would be in the finals. I think we're a lock if we run the table to the finals AND beat VCU along the way, but it doesn't look like it'll work out that way.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 9 years ago

SmartyBarrett wrote:
Blue Man wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/news/forde-min ... ncaab.html

"Rhode Island (31). Record: 19-6, 11-3 in the A-10. RPI: 63. Kenpom: 50. Sagarin: 57. The Rams are ahead of schedule by a year, but behind schedule to make this year’s NCAA tourney. The record is good, but the quality wins are not there – they’re just 1-4 against the RPI top 50 and 4-4 against the top 100. Rhode Island needs a strong last two weeks and then may need to reach the A-10 final to have an at-large shot."

This is pretty accurate. Need to run the table to the A10 final to have a shot. A shot only.

We didn't do what we needed to when we had the opportunities. The nail was in the coffin for our at-large chances after we failed to beat VCU. The St Joes loss padlocked it.

We need to win Brooklyn. There's certainly no reason we can't. We're playing the best basketball of any team in the A10 right now.
What sucks is... if we run the table to finish out the regular season, we're most likely the 1 seed and VCU is most likely the 2. Which means the only chance we'd play VCU in Brooklyn would be in the finals. I think we're a lock if we run the table to the finals AND beat VCU along the way, but it doesn't look like it'll work out that way.

On the flip side, if we go 4-1 the rest of the way and lose to VCU in the final (if we're the 2 and they are the 1), I think we'd be in good shape.

BPR2010 · Unread post by **BPR2010** » 9 years ago

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... -what-isnt

Interesting to see #2 on there, although that has been known. That pretty much ends the whole, "If we finish in 1st place in the regular season", debate. It guarantees you an NIT bid yes, but the full body of work trumps that. Also, the "what have you done for me lately", is apparently a null factor now. That part I didn't know had changed. Either way, none of us should feel safe if we don't win in Brooklyn. Do what PC did last year and take the mystery and stress out of it. Just win baby!

skwalk47 · Unread post by **skwalk47** » 9 years ago

I put the magic number at 25. If we get to 25 and don't get in then we got screwed. That means 4-0 and losing in the finals. I think we remain in the conversation at 24 wins but are likely on the outside looking in.

Not that we can afford to slip up at all, but I think if LaSalle is the one slip up, that would be better than losing to Davidson and Dayton as we need wins over those teams.

PlayMikeMotenMore · Unread post by **PlayMikeMotenMore** » 9 years ago

It's not about a number of wins. It's about who you beat, where did you beat them, and who you lost to. Unfortunately, URI is coming up short right now in some of that.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

Right, URI could get screwed in Brooklyn if one of the top teams gets bounced by a lower team. All talk about getting to the final of the A10 tournament assumes we play "good-win" teams along the way. Substitute a St Joes/Richmond for a UMass/Davidson and we lose the RPI boost and top 75/50 win that we are assuming we would get en route to the final.

STC · Unread post by **STC** » 9 years ago

Updated BubbleWatch is up on ESPN

http://espn.go.com/ncb/bubblewatch

Rhode Island [19-6 (11-3), RPI: 65, SOS: 210] Rhode Island is hanging on, but only barely. Sure, it has responded to a Feb. 11 loss at Saint Joe's with three straight wins, including a home victory over UMass last week. But that's nowhere near enough. The Rams are near the bottom edge of the conceivable bubble, and the worst news, besides their RPI and schedule numbers (including a 230s-ish noncon schedule), is their nonexistent collection of marquee wins. To truly impress the committee, URI might have to go 4-0 in its final four regular-season games -- including this week's home date versus Davidson and trips to La Salle and Dayton. Yikes.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 9 years ago

I don't think the league gets more than 2 in. VCU looks like they'll go. We had better hope that VCU doesn't win the league and the tourney.
Our RPI isn't going to help us. The league, although still seventh best, has had a down year. We (URI)just don't have the quality wins needed. We've got to make the finals. Winning the regular season title would also help.
Personally, I wouldn't mind playing GM, St. Joes or Fordham in the finals.

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