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Wait! Dan told everyone he had his players,
and he was ready to imprint his style on the basketball world.
I'm not for one time this season, buying into "he doesn't have the players"
mantra, anymore.
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we need more pieces than get the pieces... get the full compliment of scholarship players and lets go... Excuses are running out.. Onyekaba is hurley's player. Butler is Hurley's player.. Minnis and Reischel are Hurley's transfers.. Not so good with those 4
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I dont think a top 4 seed in the A10 is something for next year.

NCAA teams lose basketball games, especially by 3. They just have to get better and more decisive on offense.

They stop slowly running ball screen offense and they should be good.
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Well, the A-10 sucks, so we got that going for us, which is nice.
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rodfromcranston wrote:Wait! Dan told everyone he had his players,
and he was ready to imprint his style on the basketball world.
I'm not for one time this season, buying into "he doesn't have the players"
mantra, anymore.
Please, if anyone uses the "Well Hare left" excuse, please include your
address in your post. My dogs will want to visit you. Better yet,
I'll send my ex wife over.
I agree with all of this, I just also think the ship isn't sinking. We lost to a team that we could have (and maybe should have) beaten, but they were favored by 2 and we lost by 3. Teams almost always look bad when they lose and good when they win. I'm going to withhold my judgment for now and still believe they are on schedule with the rebuild, and I still have exactly the same expectations for the team now as I had coming into the year. But this game obviously shows we aren't a finished project yet. There is more work to do.
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Guys, I know a lot of you are frustrated with EC's dribbling.

WHY is he doing that? He is NOT a point guard. Jarvis IS.

Jarvis is a good passer. Right now, the ONLY one on the team, but he is raw.

He is the only guy who can consistently get the others involved in the half court offense.

Too many guys are taking turns being the designated dribbler. There is no flow to the offense because of that.

Now I know why Dan is recruiting more PG's. We will need them. Jarvis will need help.

When JG gets good enough to get 30+ minutes a game, our half court offense will improve. Until then, expect more mass confusion.

Also, don't expect us to run much, or that well when we do. Jarvis sees the floor. The rest don't, or can't. Well, Gil can, but he's not a PG either.
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the sky is falling!
NOT IN OUR HOUSE
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Get back to Gil running the break and this team will go places.

I'm alarmed at JT's lack of finishing ability in games with lay ups. If he isn't going to jump to the rim and finish close to it he must learn to float it. Hes just so short.
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Bone, therefore Jarvis starts, no? Not going to get where he needs to be sitting.....
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twisted3829 wrote:the sky is falling!
The sky isn't falling. We have solid talent, right? Shouldn't we be in a better position to win games? Of course. Stop forcing Biggie into the lineup. Create better offensive sets.

It's now about in season talent evaluation and game planning which Dan seems to be lacking as it stands right now.

I expect better and this fan base deserves better, now!
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Seawrightspostgame wrote:Get back to Gil running the break and this team will go places.

I'm alarmed at JT's lack of finishing ability in games with lay ups. If he isn't going to jump to the rim and finish close to it he must learn to float it. Hes just so short.
I think JT looks fine. He absolutely looks like he belongs on the court as a freshman, five games into his career. A lot is being asked of him at this point in his career. Considering that, I think he looks great.
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TruePoint wrote:
Seawrightspostgame wrote:Get back to Gil running the break and this team will go places.

I'm alarmed at JT's lack of finishing ability in games with lay ups. If he isn't going to jump to the rim and finish close to it he must learn to float it. Hes just so short.
I think JT looks fine. He absolutely looks like he belongs on the court as a freshman, five games into his career. A lot is being asked of him at this point in his career. Considering that, I think he looks great.
JT is the least of our worries.
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Simply put, we need another PG to back Jarvis up or play with him.

We need another shooter. We might have one in Christion.

And we need another big, or two. Butts will help, but he's not a 5.

With those pieces, we'll be NCAA tourney ready.

As for JG starting, I'm all for it. Let him learn the hard way. How can it be worse than what we're seeing on the floor now?

The ball MOVES when he plays. The ball stagnates when he doesn't.

I think Dan knows this. He's going to makes changes going forward. He did it last year when EC and Hassan starting playing more minutes after a few games.
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Jus read the comments in this thread. Sounds a lot like last year's team.
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Obadiah wrote:Jus read the comments in this thread. Sounds a lot like last year's team.
This year's team is much better than last year's, and the record at the end will reflect that. In the meantime, it is a very young group and there will be games where they don't look great. Tonight was one of those nights, which is too bad because it was a good opportunity.
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Yeah sure. Another close game lost.

As bad as it was, it would have been a win if they didn't go stone cold dead for the last 10 minutes of the first half.

The execution wasn't just bad either. The effort was too.

There is NO EXCUSE for that. That is on the coaching staff, not just the players.

It just boggles the mind how they can sleepwalk thru a game like that.

Remember, the entire team isn't freshmen. Just 2 of them are. They've done this before.

Let's see how many close games we blow this season. If it's anywhere near like last season, then Dan's ability to coach in late game situations has to be questioned. It's more than missed FT's too.

Right Rod?
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On the bright side, we did outscore them in the second half.
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rambone 78 wrote:Yeah sure. Another close game lost.

As bad as it was, it would have been a win if they didn't go stone cold dead for the last 10 minutes of the first half.

The execution wasn't just bad either. The effort was too.

There is NO EXCUSE for that. That is on the coaching staff, not just the players.

It just boggles the mind how they can sleepwalk thru a game like that.

Remember, the entire team isn't freshmen. Just 2 of them are. They've done this before.

Let's see how many close games we blow this season. If it's anywhere near like last season, then Dan's ability to coach in late game situations has to be questioned. It's more than missed FT's too.

Right Rod?
Both Hurley and Murray were imploring the team to pick up the defensive pressure, both waving their arms to pick up full court. There was little response from the players. The effort was not there. They need a good ass kicking after an effort like this.
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We actually shot FT's fairly well tonight, 14-18 is one of the only positives I can take away from this game.
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True. We only brick them when it matters.

If it isn't one thing, it's another.

A Hurley coached team should never lose due to a lack of effort.

My guess is, they all should apologize to Dan and the staff after this one.

I hope there aren't any "we were tired" excuses either. They had a day off between games.
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You guys need to calm down... This is a VERY talented group of very YOUNG players... Inconsistency will be the only constant in the first half of the season. Poor shooting did us in tonight. We played great defense and shot well from the line, but we may have had tired legs from 3 games in 4 days. This team will be a 20+ win team this year and even better in the future. Relax and enjoy, we had a stumble tonight, but a win in the Dump will fix all!!!

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Both teams played the same schedule.
Please, schedule fatigue is a CFL excuse.
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Mongo, nice try about the "tired legs" comment. GT had to play the games too.

I'm glad that you're that optimistic. I agree that they will get better, how much better is the big question.
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I don't want to hear excuses. We went though 11 years
of excuses.
It does take time for a team to gel.
So far, it's one step forward, one step back.
We'll see how things progress (or not) after the A-10 schedule begins.
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Two things.....
(1)

GT game - Team statistic that stands out to me...3/16 (.188%) from 3pt
.31% from 3pt through the first 5 games which will drop even more after this one is factored in.
Aside from how the GT game went down, it appears the team needs someone outside of E.C. who can reliably hit shots from behind the arc or they are probably going to struggle in a lot of games.

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GT game - TJ stats: 9 points, 1 rebound, 5 ASSISTS, 0 TURNOVERS
GT game - Biggie stats: 0 points, 2 rebounds, 0 ASSISTS, 3 TURNOVERS

After 6 games (includes GT game stats):
TJ - 3 ppg, .7 tpg, 1.2 spg, 3 apg, 1.8 rpg, .833 FT%, 18.8 min. per game
Biggie - 2.7 ppg, 2.2 tpg, .3 spg, 1.8 apg, 2.7 rpg, .800 FT%, 18.7 min. per game

In the first two games against Pace and UMASS-Lowell:
Biggie had 6 rebounds and 8 points total...9 of his 11 assists and 11 of his 16 points were against Pace and Santa Clara
TJ had 5 rebounds and 4 points total

In the last four games:
Biggie - 10 turnovers, 8 points
TJ - 1 turnover, 14 points

In my opinion, TJ is a positive and invaluable contributor to this team and should be one of the guys on the floor for the majority of each game. I've thought this since last year. I think he should start over Biggie. I've thought this all year long. Against GT, Nebraska, and Kansas TJ has 0 turnovers and only 1 in the last 4 games. If you take away the Pace game, TJ has been better and more consistent almost across the board. Biggie can be good against poor opposition, but TJ is consistently solid in each and every game. When players turn the ball over it can lead to points for the opposition. I don't know about everyone else, but I'd feel much better knowing that there is a guy on the floor that's not going to be giving points away. Plus, TJ is one of those guys that has a never say die attitude and a team can feed off of it. I still remember how important he was to the effort of the team in the second half of the season last year.
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Notes from the game:
- Bill Murray was in the house
- As expected crowd was mostly only URI supporters and Georgia Tech supporters with a spattering of others. Maybe 300 to 400 total?
- Tough to play in this environment and stay "up" but of course that is the same for both teams
- Players like TJ are not affected by the crowd because he would give 100% with no fans he is such a competitor
- TJ was the leader of the comeback, the spark. 5 assists to lead both teams in just 20 minutes. Some bad calls on TJ and Hassan tonight some were very questionable.
- Surprised Dan did not get a technical tonight - refs were itching to give him one for being out of the box. Strange referee interpretation with URI substitutions which was also an issue that our coaching staff was pissed about.
- URI was 1-13 on threes before EC hit 2 clutch 3's in the last 30 seconds. EC went 3-8, rest of team 0-8.
- TJ making a strong case for the starting PG position. Leadership, passing, defense, fearlessness to drive to the hoop, makes things happen, repeat: he makes things happen, others feed off his energy and he seems to instill confidence in others.
- this game was URI favored by 1 point. Basically a toss up. We need to learn and adjust. Players and coaches. It is tough to lose a game like this but it's far better to have played GaTech than Rider.
- Time to move on to Southern Miss
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What exactly is Dan' style of play?
Where is the inside game?
where is the catch and shoot play?
Why do we miss the open man?
Why do we foul so much at the 3 pt line?
Why do we pick at the 3 pt line and get nothing for it? no open shot ,no pick and roll passy
Where is the 10-15 jumper?
What sense does the player rotation have?
When did we gain anything after time out play?
Why don't we have a team? We have great individual talent.
Why can't our coach get along with a 6' 10" KID?
Why don't out player stack the assist stats?
Why do I have to watch other teams to see "good" basketball
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It's all part a da process.
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After watching that game the lack of effort is what stands out to me

Also, EC is not quite ready for the nba, or nbdl

He was so lackluster and didn't look for his shot the entire 2nd half when it counted

Sure we (& the team) count a lot on him and put a lot of pressure on him..

I understand not forcing matters; but he barely shot the ball in the 2nd half until the end of the game

This team owes us a victory to make up for this stinker

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Again, what pisses me off was this:

GT did NOT beat URI.

URI beat URI.

And the coaching staff knows it. We know it.

URI beat URI, by basically playing with ZERO intensity during the last 10 minutes of the 1st half.

Play hard throughout, and they win the game, stinker or not.

What's with the NO EXCUSES mantra that they are supposed to have? Start living up to it!

We will NOT be a tourney team, until this bullshit stops. For good.
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Here here rambone, here here
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Do we enter conference play at 9-2?

stuff looks awful cause guys are scared, TJ looks great because hes not scared, unselfish and benefits from 4 years of working on his body. Its the experience vs talent thing. Experience gets it done.

I think our best lineup is EC, TJ, JT,Gil, Martin/Watson. Anybody?

I like Jarvis but at the end of this game he got a rebound not 4 feet from the goal with nobody on him and he didn't even look at the rim. He will take time.

Despite any of the headaches, have to point out the miraculous turn around in Gil's game. He couldn't cover a bed and now he is pretty good at defending and rebounding.
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The old slo mo offense, brought to you by the URI Rams.

The exact opposite of what will work with these players.

I could care less if we have 20 turnovers a night, as long as it produces the same effect on the opposition, and gets us moving away from the total stagnation offense we're seeing now.

That's what we were promised. We're not seeing it.

Why?

SPG, yes the seniors are getting it done. The rest, not so much. How long do we have to wait until they all come on board?

9-2 isn't happening, unless there is a miraculous turnaround. I had put the GT and So. Miss game in the win column. We're not good enough, which is a shame, because both those teams stink.
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I had friends over and didn't focus intently on the game, but I noticed two worrying things:

-It seems like a lot of our offensive plays are motion offenses i.e. move the ball around (the 3 man weave) until we get an open look through the motion. I think the problem we're having is guys aren't being aggressive and cutting hard enough to get those open looks. EC and TJ are the only guards aggressively looking to penetrate. I bet the staff installs more "quick hit" sets that have a designed look (I like the one where EC comes off a stagger screen)

-We can't shoot. We knew this coming into the season, but it's starting to worry me. We're a very poor shooting team
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Growing pains!

Relax everyone. For one thing we only lost the game by 3 points. Yes, plenty of mistakes!! But we never gave up. There is no quit in this team and if we had just scored 4 more points, most of this board would be saying "Woo hoo! 5-1! Bring on So. Miss!" Still, we beat Nebraska. I don't think a loss to GT is going to hurt us down the road. Now..its time to recover and get a tough road win!!!
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We can't shoot. Neither can VCU. They make up for that by being aggressive on D and looking to run at every opportunity to create easier, close in shots.

We, on the other hand, can play D and rebound, but what do we do with it? Play into the other teams' hands by slowing it down on the offensive end.

Which is it? Are we going to be a slog-it-out grinding low scoring team, or an uptempo one that plays to our strengths?

To win low scoring defensive games, you've got to play hard for 40 minutes, not 30, and TAKE CARE OF THE BALL. And make your FT's.

And learn how to close out games. We're still waiting on that.
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Ram Stampede, I don't have a problem with us losing that game if:

We played hard all game, with a purpose, and played reasonably well.

That's OK. It happens.

When you do what we did, lose to an inferior opponent and play like crap doing so, is what bothers me.

At some point, the young excuse won't hold water. Play like they care, and things will take care of themselves.
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Was in the arena tonight. URI fans dominated the noise and were really trying to get our team giving some intensity. The looked emotionless. It was cold as Alaska in the arena. Figured the players were ok running up and down. But the lack of intensity showed when EC had to blow on his hands before taking a shot like he was playing outside in New England on a cold winter day.

Team just looked like $hit. Turnovers stupid. All in all in the end it was exciting to watch Rhody trying to come back multiple times in the 2nd half. The final 2 minutes was awesome. Hey everyone they are going to lose some games. This was one we should have won if we played with effort. GT wanted it more.

The refs were riding Hurley and the bench all night. At one point they were waiting for all of the coached except Hurley to sit down prior to re-starting game on a turn over. One ref was a total douche to Hurley. We could blatantly hear him when he said "It's official. This is your WARNING" for a technical. DH rode him from that point forward. It was real ugly at end of game. Thought Hurley wanted to throw a haymaker at the guy. Watching home during timeouts. DH was spending most of the time staring this guy down.

Great place to watch a game. Easy in and out. Weather has been fantastic.

Need to get this train back on track and get some W's and then steal one from PC in a week.
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Spare us the "we didn't quit" baloney.
We came out like "The Walking Dead". No excuse for that.
Why are we so helpless against a zone defense?
I watch us trying to attack it, and it's the same junk from 2002
to now. Pass around and around and take a lousy shot.
Our defense wasn't great, either. GT seemed to get to the rim with ease.
Why do we foul a 3 point shooter?
How good is Nebraska? People act as if we beat Kentucky.
I'd be shocked if they were ranked at seasons end.
Why don't we make adjustments after timeouts?
Anyone remembering Kraft, Penders or Harrick will recall that
more times than not, good things happened after a timeout.
While we've only seen it at the end of regulation in the Nebraska game,
will our last shot play be any better than previously?
How do you make up for just poor shooting?
I've seen Garrett shoot last year. He had good form and good range.
He rarely looks at the basket.
If TJ is our PG then we have some serious problems. Minnis seems almost
invisible against good competition.
I'm dreading December 10th.
Oh, and can we stop using initials, unless it's TJ?
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It's easy to blame the refs. I agree, we got the shaft several times, but the calls were bad both ways.

When you play like shit, you're going to focus more on the refs.

Georgia Tech was who we thought they were. Awful. We were worse.

I posted before this game, that if we brought our "B" game, we would win rather easily.

Well, we brought our D game. And still almost won. [The first half was an F]

Beyond frustrating. Whoever we play and however we play, if we don't start to win close games, we're going nowhere.

Right now, it's not happening.

Rod, I'm not worried about the PC game. We might not win it, but at least we will play with intensity, unlike last night.

I'm beginning to wonder just what goes on at our practices. Like how to attack a zone. We have the bodies, unlike last year.

My God, I'm beginning to sound like Jim Baron was still the coach. And that's bad.
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I will suggest the starting line up and minutes played in the rotation will remain the same, rather than a commit to either TJ or Jarvis at PG for major minutes. I also suggest JR will see no more action than he has, and we will enter the A-10 sked with the same lingering uncertainties and inefficient performance from the offense, while still looking for some/any inside outside game....not what I was expecting at this point.....
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Let's be honest...it was a three point game in name only. GT missed free throws in the last minute and EC made a few jumpers while GT was in "let them take jumpers and get our of the building" mode. DH has done a nice job in upgrading the talent on this roster but the offense hasn't changed one bit. Rhody has good enough players now that they will run over less talented teams. From that standpoint, that's an upgrade. But, these games against similarly or more talented teams are rough to watch offensively. If more than one out of five possessions end without you getting off a shot because of turnovers and you aren't a particularly good three point shooting team, well, that's a bad combo. And tough to overcome. Still early in the season, for sure, but there are enough similarities to the offense with X that it makes me nervous. Dribbling, weaving, passing around the arc for 25 seconds just to take a contested jumper. I wish they had done what Tim O'Shea did at Bryant and hired Al Skinner as an assistant. They need a guy on the staff who has installed and built an offense. A guy that has been around the block a million times.
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105, if you're right, we're screwed, with a capital S.

We just don't look like a well coached team. We don't win the close ones. The excuse was, we don't have the talent.

Now we do, supposedly.

Nothing's changed. It looks like we're doomed to be The Team That Can't Play Half Court Offense, no matter the coach.

How do you win close games at the end, when none of the "plays" ever work? The point Rod just made about coming out of timeouts, is so true it's sickening.

Wouldn't you like to question Dan about any of this? Yeah, right.
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The first negative indicator for me will be if Biggie starts next game, and I don't wanna hear the who starts doesn't matter much crap. And secondly, continued no attempts to get any post play from Gil and Hassan. The suggestion that the multiple/three guard offense for us is not getting it done.
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Watch good teams play.
You'll see inside-outside passing.
Dump the ball into the post, and he either goes to the basket or
passes to an open shooter, when someone doubles down on him.
We have Gil down low. He's an excellent passer with good hands.
How many times did he get the ball in the post, yesterday?
Tim Welsh pointed out Hassan always passing it out, instead of even looking for his shot inside.
We can't win with a perimeter only offense.
Yesterday looked like a bunch of guys who just met in a pickup game.
I agree with GBG on having an old head on staff for Xs and Os.
Everyone is the same age, and nobody has head coaching experience.
We need a George Blaney type on the bench.
Would Dan give someone that kind of input? Who knows?
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GBG, what you said about beating the weak teams and losing to similar talent teams is eerily reminiscent of JB's teams.

You're right, nothing's changed. Baron's best teams had talent, but went brain dead at the worst possible times, and couldn't play half court offense.

It's deja vu all over again! Fuck!!!

The rest of this season will be VERY telling. If this continues, the bloom is off the rose. I will no longer be an apologist for DH.

105 and Rod, again correct. Gil and Hassan need the ball. They can score down low. We have seen where Dan does make adjustments like this, but it seems to come after we've been burned a few times. Why wait?
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“We couldn’t get out of our own way in the first half,” URI coach Dan Hurley said. “We just fell back into trying to do too much. We kind of looked like we did against Kansas and against Nebraska with our guards over-dribbling.”
Hurley said his team’s main issues were poor shot selection, not driving while under control and not finding teammates after driving.
“The turnover numbers from our guards, the lack of assist-to-turnover ratio just gives you really no chance to win,” Hurley said.
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Rod, Cox was hired as a recruiter, right? Does he know offensive sets? Like you said, who knows?

I didn't see Dan's Wagner teams play, so I don't know if they did this. Probably didn't have the quality big men that we have.

Anyway, something's got to change. Perimeter play isn't our thing. Our big men get the ball against weaker teams. Against bigger more physical teams, we don't even try to get them involved.

Where's the beef? Where's the aggression on offense? Dan promised we'd see that style. Hello?

Yeah, I know. It's that youth thing. Bullshit.
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rambone 78 wrote:GBG, what you said about beating the weak teams and losing to similar talent teams is eerily reminiscent of JB's teams.

You're right, nothing's changed. Baron's best teams had talent, but went brain dead at the worst possible times, and couldn't play half court offense.

It's deja vu all over again! Fuck!!!

The rest of this season will be VERY telling. If this continues, the bloom is off the rose. I will no longer be an apologist for DH.

105 and Rod, again correct. Gil and Hassan need the ball. They can score down low. We have seen where Dan does make adjustments like this, but it seems to come after we've been burned a few times. Why wait?
Baron's teams didn't get better. I'm still confident that won't be the case with Hurley.
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Those quotes from Dan are what you'd call "Masters of the Obvious".

No kidding.

Do we really have ball distributors? Other than Jarvis, who right now seems a little overwhelmed?

EC isn't the answer. Minnis no way. TJ gives his all, and that's great, but not good enough. Terrell just can't buy a basket, but that will come in time when there is less pressure on him to score.

Memo to Dan: Bring in more true PG's. I think he gets that.

We are missing more pieces than originally thought.

Iggy, I agree to a point. Jarvis will help this situation out a ton with time. But the others are what they are. Without him, we are last year's team, without a shooter [X].