Games of Interest - Week #15

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

In the A10 game tonight, St. Joes destroyed the fraudulent Flyers by 25.

In the BE game tonight, X wins a big one on the road against the jokers from St. Johns, by 12.

Things are shaking out.

Things were looking up for Dayton, but unless they win out, and then do damage in the A10 tourney, they're done. Toasty.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

We manhandled Dayton at home. We do not manhandle NCAA teams this year, so they were out to me the minute their game with us ended. Even on the road we should have beat them. Was never impressed. Also do not think St Joes is an NCAA team. On the eye test I only put SLU, VCU, Umass and GW in the dance. SJU, Dayton and Richmond in the NIT. Still a very solid outcome for the conference.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Looks like Dayton and Richmond are about to fall off the bubble.

Looks more and more like the A10 will get 5 in.

Richmond didn't help themselves at all after losing to GMU tonight.

If we play like we did tonight on Saturday, we will add to their misery and finish them off, most likely.

ANOTHER very winnable game on tap.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

The Tournament itself will be a huge determining factor as it always is
If Dayton or Richmond or St Joseph's can reach the Championship game it makes a big difference,
If UMASS or GW lost their first round game this can be a bi blow to their chances
We will know in a by March 16 - losts of important games still to be played - the most critical games - which will make Lunardi's bracket change like it does every year

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 10 years ago

there is always the auto bid for the 6th team, unless something drastic happens *knocks on wood* the A10 should get at least 5 bids

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

What the hell? Duquesne takes down St. Louis, at St. Louis.

We'd better win the last two, or we are in the PIG.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 10 years ago

Couldnt believe that one. Turned it on when i saw the score with about 6 minutes left. Fully expected St. Louis to find a way to win it still at home, but never happened.

rhodylaw · Unread post by **rhodylaw** » 10 years ago

I watched most of that game - Duquesne shot the ball really well from 3. They have a few really good shooters so it is not surprising.

Also, St. Louis is not a great offensive team. They are beatable, just have not been beaten yet in conference for some reason.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 10 years ago

Duquense now has four wins. URI and GMU are at three wins (Rhody has the tiebreaker with them), and Fordham has two wins. URI probably needs one more win to avoid the PIG.

neil · Unread post by **neil** » 10 years ago

Let's get two (and watch X hit 1000) and go in to Brooklyn with some momentum.

Justns11 · Unread post by **Justns11** » 10 years ago

I'd be interested to know if we have the longest active streak in the A10 for not beating a top-25 team. Maybe I'll research this tonight....unless someone else wants to do it for me

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

I think you might be right, without looking it up myself....

Even Fordham has done it not too long ago....

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

In contrast, Saint Louis shot 4 for 23 from three.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

La Salle beats Fordham. What an ending.

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 10 years ago

GW beat George Mason today which helps the URI bid to avoid the PIG. URI now controls its own destiny with the Fordham game.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

Wagner beat Robert Morris yesterday on senior day in Staten Island, and they enter the NEC tournament as the #2 seed. The seniors were Hurley's first recruiting class as a head coach- Kenny Ortiz, Latif Rivers, Orlando Parker, and Naofall Folahan. They're a great group of guys who set the school record for wins by a class. They have a real chance to make it to the tournament, hoping Mason can get them there.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 10 years ago

the NEC is Robert Morris' to lose but also wide open behind them

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

has the michigan state transfer (dont remember his name) done anything for them this year?

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

bigappleram wrote:has the michigan state transfer (dont remember his name) done anything for them this year?

Dwaun Anderson. Yes and no. He's almost always the most athletic guy on the court, but his performances have been inconsistent. In the few games I've seen, he'll put together a stretch of minutes that are phenomenal and then not be able to hit anything other than dunks. You wonder if he'd be different under another coach, but that may not be fair to Mason. Anderson will have all the opportunity in the world next year to make the team his. The recruiting classes since Hurley left have not been good. Harris was a nice transfer pick-up, but he ended up suspended for the last part of the season. That seemed to be a school violation, but that team seems to have more single and multi-game suspensions for "conduct detrimental to the team" that any other team I know of. I don't know if that's a young coach trying to establish a culture or what exactly is going on. The team is playing well right now, and they're as much fun to watch as anybody when they're clicking.

URI96 · Unread post by **URI96** » 10 years ago

I think what we want is to beat Fordham, and have Duquesne lose out so we end up as the 10 seed. This likely gives us another game against free falling Richmond and a potential match up after that with St. Joe's (a team we should have beaten twice)

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 10 years ago

I wouldn't say should 96, I would say could have. If St Joe's could somehow pass SLU that could give URI a Richmond then SLU matchup and we always play SLU tough.

Lets win Brooklyn! lol

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Just don't want to face VCU, until the final at least.

I know that's a longshot [us making the final] but if it happened, maybe Shaka would go easy on us, and let another A10 team into the Dance.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

Would much rather play St Joe's for a 3rd time, versus SLU. Both play tough defense, and neither scare me offensively, but beating a team 3 times in 1 season is difficult especially given we could have beaten them in either of the 2 previous games.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 10 years ago

Richmond, St Joe's then SLU? I'll take it

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

What's going on with Syracuse? They are falling apart, lost again at home. Weird.

Georgetown beats Creighton to stay alive on the bubble. They refuse to go away. PC had better win tonight, or they are in trouble.

I think X is in trouble too. St. Johns is no lock either. The NBE may only get 3 in. 4 at the most.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 10 years ago

Marquette just took a lead after being down by double digits. Less than 2 mins to go and PC is down 56-55

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 10 years ago

Holy crap.. a play breaks down and Fortune gets a baseline 3 and ONE... drains FT. PC back up 3 with 25 ticks left.

NJ03 · Unread post by **NJ03** » 10 years ago

Clutch 4 point play from Fortune. This is a great game.

NJ03 · Unread post by **NJ03** » 10 years ago

Now PC fouls mayo while shooting a 3. 88% ft shooter. Looked like sort of a BS call.

NJ03 · Unread post by **NJ03** » 10 years ago

Oh my god.....

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 10 years ago

Wow...and PC wins in 2OT... crazy game.

NJ03 · Unread post by **NJ03** » 10 years ago

WOW!! Craziest college hoops game I've seen this season. PC wins in 2OT against a good Marquette team to keep their NCAA tourney hopes alive. Cotton insanely clutch on senior night.

NJ03 · Unread post by **NJ03** » 10 years ago

ATP - the "oh my god" earlier was referring to Gardner's full court heave at the end of regulation. Could you imagine if that was the shot that killed PC's tourney hopes?

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

Cotton is a special player, they are in a world of hurt without him. A great PG keeps average teams in a lot of games. The warts will come off next year, Dunn or no Dunn, they will be young and inexperienced with limited ball handlers.

That said that was a great win, they deserve to be in IMO above Marquette or Gtown for sure, and slight edge over SJU. Great coaching job by Cooley, they easily could have lost tonight and a few others this year. If he could ever get his recruits on the court.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

Just saw the 2 dumbest plays of the year...both by Marquette. Anyone know if their assistants are named Moe and Larry?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Marquette had the lead and the ball and twice in late situations, travelled.
Then the turnover at 8 seconds, when all they had to do was get the ball
up the floor against a team that played 50 minutes with mostly 6 players.
I'll bet Curley Howard didn't get much sleep last night.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

This season, has any player been more valuable to his team than Cotton?

NJ03 · Unread post by **NJ03** » 10 years ago

Well based on his teams performance after his suspension id say Marcus Smart is more valuable to Ok St then Cotton to PC. MCdemorrot to Creighton prob as well.

Captainron@ · Unread post by **Captainron@** » 10 years ago

4th double OT game of the year for Providence. I think Cotton is now averaging more than 40 minutes a game

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Cotton leads the country in minutes. Amazing player.
McDermott against Georgetown, faced a team determined to stop him.
They rotated three guys on him all night.
While he didn't have his best game, he managed 22 points and 12 rebounds.
PC-Creighton should be interesting.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 10 years ago

Cotton is averaging 40.2 minutes per game. Highest average since the 90s -- Vonteego Cummings from Pitt, 97-98, 40.1 minutes per game. Amazing, plays 50 minutes, steps to the foul line, and nails 2 FT's in the closing seconds after forcing the jump ball on defense. What fatigue?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Like was said, they are going to miss him big time next year.

How he doesn't get into foul trouble, EVER, is amazing.

Bet if he played in the A10, he would. Our refs suck, for the most part.

PC plays with 5 guys, 6 at most. It's like the BE refs know this, and don't want to take certain players out of the game.

I know you can play aggressive defense without fouling, but EVER?

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

I refuse to watch that team.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 10 years ago

doesn't get in foul trouble because PC sits in a zone

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 10 years ago

twisted3829 wrote:doesn't get in foul trouble because PC sits in a zone

PC mixes between zone and man depending on opponent and situation. Last night they played mostly zone, but typically they are a man team with zone sprinkled in.

Over the past 3 years, he has played in 94 games and averaged 38.8 minutes.

His foul distribution:

5 Fouls - 0
4 Fouls - 3
3 Fouls - 9
2 Fouls - 26
1 Foul - 37
0 Fouls - 19

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 10 years ago

so it looks like my big surprise in my tourney bracket isn't such a surprise anymore, I was going to have Syracuse losing early but now it looks like a lot of people will

URI96 · Unread post by **URI96** » 10 years ago

twisted3829 wrote:I wouldn't say should 96, I would say could have. If St Joe's could somehow pass SLU that could give URI a Richmond then SLU matchup and we always play SLU tough.

Lets win Brooklyn! lol

We blew big leads in both. I stand by my statement.

UCH21377 · Unread post by **UCH21377** » 10 years ago

Cooley can really coach. with 20 seconds or so left in double OT, Cotton was bringing the ball up, down 3, and had 2 Marquette guys all over him, with Fortune out of the game, Cotton had nowhere to go. So Cooley calls time out, doesn't panic, and sets up the play to Henton for 2. Then they get the pressure, and the tie up, and next thing you know they won. Excellent job.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

NJ03 wrote:Well based on his teams performance after his suspension id say Marcus Smart is more valuable to Ok St then Cotton to PC. MCdemorrot to Creighton prob as well.

Oklahoma State had lost 5 of 6 with Smart prior to the suspension. McDermott is certainly up there.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

South Carolina coach Frank Martin suspended for a game for "inappropriate verbal communication." At first, I though that mean illegally communicating with a recruit. Turns out, he was recorded yelling, "answer the f*****g question, a*****e!" to one of his players during an in-game huddle. Very Martin-like.

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