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Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:26 am
by reef
Jason Kidd wasn't really a good shooter when he was young too

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:43 am
by rhodyblue12
When you are taller and more athletic than everyone you are competing against in high school, you drive the ball.
The shot comes later.
His form looks good in the videos - no hitch, squares up, good elevation. He looks like a great shooter on tape.
Just needs to put up 200 shots a day. I like this player a lot.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:57 am
by rambone 78
Didn't remember the 4 high schools in 4 years.....but I trust the staff knows what's up and it's not a negative going forward.

If he's not a good student I doubt Dan would want him at this point. Only high quality kids need apply.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:38 pm
by steveystuds06
theblueram wrote:Not sure what to say. Tate, Martin and Harris don't even show up on espn database. Have these guys been locked in a closet?
ESPN is a joke...

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:38 pm
by theblueram
steveystuds06 wrote:
theblueram wrote:Not sure what to say. Tate, Martin and Harris don't even show up on espn database. Have these guys been locked in a closet?
ESPN is a joke...
So what is the best site to look at when trying to size up recruits? I always used to use espn since anytime a recruit is announced as a top 100, it always says ESPN Top 100.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:54 pm
by TruePoint
247 is probably the best site nowadays.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:21 pm
by theblueram
Ok, so I looked at 247 and Tate and Martin are 3* and Harris is NR. Thanks TP.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:55 pm
by steveystuds06
theblueram wrote:Ok, so I looked at 247 and Tate and Martin are 3* and Harris is NR. Thanks TP.

http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Basket ... Highschool

As of September 14th Tyrese Martin has a rating of 90 and is ranked as the 149 player in 2018. A high 3 star player.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:10 pm
by Billyboy78
steveystuds06 wrote:
theblueram wrote:Ok, so I looked at 247 and Tate and Martin are 3* and Harris is NR. Thanks TP.

http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Basket ... Highschool

As of September 14th Tyrese Martin has a rating of 90 and is ranked as the 149 player in 2018. A high 3 star player.
I'm seeing 244, also says as of Sept. 14th.
http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Basket ... highschool

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:21 pm
by theblueram
So does anyone else have a recruiting site that doesn't show the same player with two different rankings?

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:32 pm
by Billyboy78
It looks like he might have dropped about 100 spots after he committed to us.
http://247sports.com/Player/Tyrese-Martin-46042190

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:38 pm
by wpbrown8267
I'm gonna go with Steviestuds link, only reason is that Jermaine Harris is listed as 109 on the 2nd link that was posted after, which isn't right since JH is a top 80 recruit.

It is weird that 247 has two diff links

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:43 pm
by Billyboy78
The one Studs posted says Composite Recruit Rankings. The one I posted just says Recruit Rankings. What's the difference?

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:46 pm
by KevanBoyles
149 is the composite rating where 244 is the rating by 247 sports. Composite being the aggregation of numerous sites.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:56 pm
by RhodyKyle
TruePoint wrote:247 is probably the best site nowadays.
247 says Jermaine Harris is going to WVU so let's hope this is the time they lower themselves to ESPN's level....

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:03 pm
by TruePoint
Haha. Yeah the CB feature is pretty cool but I think all the CBs for Harris to WVU happened when they offered in May. Of course, as an outsider, you'd think objectively that WVU would be the favorite. But outside experts often aren't privy to the personal dynamics at play. I'm not privy to the personal dynamics in Harris's case, either, but if URI ends up with him then it will be because of the relationship he establishes with Dan and Coach Cox and the rest of the staff, as well as the guys on the team and the other recruits in this class - it won't be because of our facilities or conference or the things that the recruiting reporters base their guesses on.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:05 pm
by CT Rhody
Bird on twitter seems to believe that URI would be fortunate if Harris commits tomorrow. Many here think they might try to slow roll him to wait out Adams, Williams, Doherty, Harris, etc but sounds like they aren't and would take a verbal from him tomorrow.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:24 pm
by Dre3000
CT Rhody wrote:Bird on twitter seems to believe that URI would be fortunate if Harris commits tomorrow. Many here think they might try to slow roll him to wait out Adams, Williams, Doherty, Harris, etc but sounds like they aren't and would take a verbal from him tomorrow.
With this regime the guys they bring in during September they'll always take a commitment from. Harris is no different and I'm hearing Bird's prediction is right on. The interesting thing will be whether or not they wait to see what Brendan Adams does or if they bring in another guard.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:26 pm
by CT Rhody
Dre3000 wrote:
CT Rhody wrote:Bird on twitter seems to believe that URI would be fortunate if Harris commits tomorrow. Many here think they might try to slow roll him to wait out Adams, Williams, Doherty, Harris, etc but sounds like they aren't and would take a verbal from him tomorrow.
With this regime the guys they bring in during September they'll always take a commitment from. Harris is no different and I'm hearing Bird's prediction is right on. The interesting thing will be whether or not they wait to see what Brendan Adams does or if they bring in another guard.
What are you hearing their confidence level is Adams is?

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:33 pm
by Dre3000
CT Rhody wrote:
Dre3000 wrote:
CT Rhody wrote:Bird on twitter seems to believe that URI would be fortunate if Harris commits tomorrow. Many here think they might try to slow roll him to wait out Adams, Williams, Doherty, Harris, etc but sounds like they aren't and would take a verbal from him tomorrow.
With this regime the guys they bring in during September they'll always take a commitment from. Harris is no different and I'm hearing Bird's prediction is right on. The interesting thing will be whether or not they wait to see what Brendan Adams does or if they bring in another guard.
What are you hearing their confidence level is Adams is?
Good but not as confident as another big time recruit 8-)

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:41 pm
by CT Rhody
Dre3000 wrote:
CT Rhody wrote:
Dre3000 wrote:
With this regime the guys they bring in during September they'll always take a commitment from. Harris is no different and I'm hearing Bird's prediction is right on. The interesting thing will be whether or not they wait to see what Brendan Adams does or if they bring in another guard.
What are you hearing their confidence level is Adams is?
Good but not as confident as another big time recruit 8-)
Are they really feeling confident about Harris? I keep hearing conflicting reports on that.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:10 pm
by Dre3000
They are as confident as they can be going against who they're going against. With that said could Kansas, Maryland, or WVU come in and woo him? Absolutely, but as of now I've heard similar things as the others that say he's leaning towards us.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:59 am
by NorthernRamFan
:D :D :D 8-)

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:36 am
by CT Rhody
NorthernRamFan wrote::D :D :D 8-)
Northern, how do you have this class shaping out like with what your hearing?

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:21 am
by CT Rhody

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:22 am
by NorthernRamFan
CT Rhody wrote:
NorthernRamFan wrote::D :D :D 8-)
Northern, how do you have this class shaping out like with what your hearing?
We'll Amir just committed and I'm hearing reservations of holding 1 scholly is no more. They plan to fill all of them.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:25 am
by Rhodyhooopz
Love it. Now we need the other Harris to commit

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:31 am
by CT Rhody
NorthernRamFan wrote:
CT Rhody wrote:
NorthernRamFan wrote::D :D :D 8-)
Northern, how do you have this class shaping out like with what your hearing?
We'll Amir just committed and I'm hearing reservations of holding 1 scholly is no more. They plan to fill all of them.
Figured that much, have to figure Adams and Harris are the top two targets for those two openings.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:33 am
by Billyboy78
We've got a great record recently of getting a commitment once we get an official visit. Great job, Dan and staff!

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:34 am
by RF1
If Dana Tate helped get Amir to commit, then get him back here on campus for the visit of Jermaine Harris.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:42 am
by NorthernRamFan
Got whiff of this commitment this morning, heard through my source that even the staff is getting excited with what is being built with this class. This kid has bigger impact than we all think

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:44 am
by CT Rhody
NorthernRamFan wrote:Got whiff of this commitment this morning, heard through my source that even the staff is getting excited with what is being built with this class. This kid has bigger impact than we all think
Bigger impact on the court or both on and off the court?

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:44 am
by Billyboy78
Getting some big guards. I like that. Now let's get B. Adams too!...and the big guy J. harris too, of course.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:45 am
by CT Rhody
Billyboy78 wrote:Getting some big guards. I like that. Now let's get B. Adams too!...and the big guy J. harris too, of course.
That's the class I'm hoping for, actually I think we all are hoping for.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:45 am
by bigappleram
From the limited tape seems like a slightly more athletic Dowtin, with similar strengths and size...and we all saw how that turned out.

Go Rhody!

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:48 am
by NorthernRamFan
CT Rhody wrote:
NorthernRamFan wrote:Got whiff of this commitment this morning, heard through my source that even the staff is getting excited with what is being built with this class. This kid has bigger impact than we all think
Bigger impact on the court or both on and off the court?
On & off; this solidifies pipeline into philly/DMV area

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:55 am
by RhowdyRam02
Billyboy78 wrote:We've got a great record recently of getting a commitment once we get an official visit. Great job, Dan and staff!
Since day one Hurley has had a really high batting average once we get a player on campus for an official. I'm not sure how it compares to other coaches/programs, but it seems impressive.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:57 am
by RF1




I don't think he even made his official visit to Temple.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:59 am
by CT Rhody
NorthernRamFan wrote:
CT Rhody wrote:
NorthernRamFan wrote:Got whiff of this commitment this morning, heard through my source that even the staff is getting excited with what is being built with this class. This kid has bigger impact than we all think
Bigger impact on the court or both on and off the court?
On & off; this solidifies pipeline into philly/DMV area
What is the staff's thought on how he projects on the court since you seem to have inside knowledge? Major contributor by what year is their projection?

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:03 pm
by Blue Man
Yet another to change from (Offer) to (URI Commit).

GOD I LOVE BEING A RAM THIS IS FUN NOW.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:03 pm
by CT Rhody

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:08 pm
by adam914
Welcome, Amir! Exciting to hear how optimistic the staff is of how things are shaping up right now. Lock in Adams and Jermaine Harris and man things are going to be looking pretty, pretty good.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:12 pm
by giovanni
Welcome Amir. Like this commit also. Thing all the guys we have been chasing are excellent prospects and any of the kids still mentioned would be great additions as well. Didn't someone mention that Amir is cousins with Jermaine also?

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:14 pm
by Billyboy78
giovanni wrote:Welcome Amir. Like this commit also. Thing all the guys we have been chasing are excellent prospects and any of the kids still mentioned would be great additions as well. Didn't someone mention that Amir is cousins with Jermaine also?
No, Slim says they are not related.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:18 pm
by NorthernRamFan
CT Rhody wrote:
NorthernRamFan wrote:
CT Rhody wrote:
Bigger impact on the court or both on and off the court?
On & off; this solidifies pipeline into philly/DMV area
What is the staff's thought on how he projects on the court since you seem to have inside knowledge? Major contributor by what year is their projection?
Just was texting with an assistant from the Baltimore Catholic League and he mentioned that he was surprised we got Amir because he was bound to blow up. Really tore the league up last year in many ways. I think the hope is that these commits can do what all of our commits have been able to do, come in and help in varying ways to eventually have starring moments and then be stars of the A10. Amir will follow suit.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:20 pm
by ace
NorthernRamFan wrote:
CT Rhody wrote:
NorthernRamFan wrote:Got whiff of this commitment this morning, heard through my source that even the staff is getting excited with what is being built with this class. This kid has bigger impact than we all think
Bigger impact on the court or both on and off the court?
On & off; this solidifies pipeline into philly/DMV area
Not sure I see the Philly connection. Maybe if he went to Neumann-Goretti instead of Goretti. Regardless, they continue to do well in DC/MD, and welcome, Amir!

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:24 pm
by Rhody15
Let's say we get Adams as well. With all the PGs we have committted who knows if that will steer him away or not.

Can either he or Harris play the 2 as well?

We would then have Dowtin, Russell, Harris, and Adams as 1s, and only Martin and Thompson as 2s if I'm not mistaken? Obviously there's a ton to still happen, trust the staff, talent often wins out, etc etc, but I couldn't help but play the numbers game with Harris committing.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:25 pm
by Blue Man
NorthernRamFan wrote:
CT Rhody wrote:
NorthernRamFan wrote: On & off; this solidifies pipeline into philly/DMV area
What is the staff's thought on how he projects on the court since you seem to have inside knowledge? Major contributor by what year is their projection?
Just was texting with an assistant from the Baltimore Catholic League and he mentioned that he was surprised we got Amir because he was bound to blow up. Really tore the league up last year in many ways. I think the hope is that these commits can do what all of our commits have been able to do, come in and help in varying ways to eventually have starring moments and then be stars of the A10. Amir will follow suit.
I hope everyone is noticing this pattern where Dan and Co swoop in early, identify these kids before they blow up in their senior years, and develop them into studs.

Jeff Dowtin and Cyril were barely heralded when we got them as recruits, as noted here. Same with Fatts.

Now you're adding in 6'5 and 6'6 into your back court. You have a 6'7 combo G/F as well. They will play on a team for 2 years with one of the biggest- playing 6'8 forwards I've seen.

If we get Jermaine Harris or Chris Doherty and Brendan Adams - we can just expand the North Lobby to fit 5 more A10 trophys in there over the next 5 years.

Plus - you lock in those 5 guys, add in the improvements that continue to happen to our facilities, and you see this program elevate? You can count on Dan Hurley leading this program for at least another 5 years.

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:31 pm
by NorthernRamFan
Blue Man wrote:
NorthernRamFan wrote:
CT Rhody wrote:
What is the staff's thought on how he projects on the court since you seem to have inside knowledge? Major contributor by what year is their projection?
Just was texting with an assistant from the Baltimore Catholic League and he mentioned that he was surprised we got Amir because he was bound to blow up. Really tore the league up last year in many ways. I think the hope is that these commits can do what all of our commits have been able to do, come in and help in varying ways to eventually have starring moments and then be stars of the A10. Amir will follow suit.
I hope everyone is noticing this pattern where Dan and Co swoop in early, identify these kids before they blow up in their senior years, and develop them into studs.

Jeff Dowtin and Cyril were barely heralded when we got them as recruits, as noted here. Same with Fatts.

Now you're adding in 6'5 and 6'6 into your back court. You have a 6'7 combo G/F as well. They will play on a team for 2 years with one of the biggest- playing 6'8 forwards I've seen.

If we get Jermaine Harris or Chris Doherty and Brendan Adams - we can just expand the North Lobby to fit 5 more A10 trophys in there over the next 5 years.

Plus - you lock in those 5 guys, add in the improvements that continue to happen to our facilities, and you see this program elevate? You can count on Dan Hurley leading this program for at least another 5 years.
Hell, Hurley could make the "CFL" title have good memories lol

Re: '18 MD PG - Amir Harris (Offer)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:32 pm
by theblueram
Welcome to Rhody!!!! Go Rams!!!!