'15 JUCO SF - Deshawn Freeman (Rutgers)

BFC · Unread post by **BFC** » 9 years ago

Deshawn Freeman - SF
From: Rocky Mount, NC
School: Hutchinson Community College (KS)
Travel/AAU:

Ht: 6-6
Wt: 210

RANKINGS:
Rivals: 3 Stars
ESPN: 3 Stars, 76 Grade, #36 SF in 2013
247 Sports: 4 Stars, 90 Grade, #12 2015 JUCO Recruit

OFFERS:
Arizona State
East Carolina
Rutgers*
Tennessee
Tulsa

INTEREST:
Rhode Island
Auburn
Virginia Tech
Western Kentucky

*Committed 4/27/15

Stats: http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2014 ... reeman8scu

http://verbalcommits.com/players/deshawn-freeman
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball ... man-156055
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/baske ... wn-freeman
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/deshawn-f ... tball-juco
http://247sports.com/Player/Deshawn-Freeman-65591

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 9 years ago

Yawn...........

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

We're yawning at the 12th ranked Juco in the country?

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Consensus 3-star 6'7" forward being recruited by Power 5 conference programs? And we are yawning! I would at least be interested in seeing some film. His profile lists him at SF, but it looks like he's played PF as a JUCO, so maybe he can do a little of both. I know everyone wants a 7'0" center with the requisite athleticism to play our style of defense, but what if there isn't one? A guy like this could help.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Consensus 3-star 6'7" forward being recruited by Power 5 conference programs? And we are yawning! I would at least be interested in seeing some film. His profile lists him at SF, but it looks like he's played PF as a JUCO, so maybe he can do a little of both. I know everyone wants a 7'0" center with the requisite athleticism to play our style of defense, but what if there isn't one? A guy like this could help.

This is high school...

Running Ram · Unread post by **Running Ram** » 9 years ago

Not yawning! Very interested in all the quality front court help we can get.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

Not much to tell from that video, other than that he's athletic and aggressive around the hoop on both ends of the floor.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

We need a big. Period! Don't give us the baloney that'there's none.
Read this site.
This guy might be nice if someone else is leaving, but he doesn't
fit the priority need.
You people pooh poohing this, really think Watson and Martin are
going to be NCAA caliber centers, beyond the A-10? I don't.
Watson has done little in the last month.
Martin is going to be 5'10" with all the banging around he'll
get being the ONLY real frontcourt player.
I think Dan learned his lesson about trying to play five guards.
You can't reinvent the wheel.
You want to be Gonzaga? Well look at Gonzaga.
7'. 6'11", 6'11".

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 9 years ago

Thanks Rod. And by the way any more info on the BIG you mentioned a while ago that we were going to get?????

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

So we should just give a scholarship to the tallest guy we can find, then? Or just leave one unused because we can't find someone tall enough? Sorry, that isn't a plan. It would be nice to have a true center, but the highest priority is guys that can play. Not the tallest guy available. Next year you have five known players, two freshmen and some reserves that aren't tournament caliber players. If the really tall guy store is sold out of guys that can actually play, I'd rather add another 6'7" guy that can rebound and defend and finish at the basket than nobody or a random tall guy. I don't know anything about Freeman in particular, but if he can play we should be at least be involved. It isn't like he's another guard.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Whatever. Stick your head in the sand and ignore
the obvious just to be a contrarian.
Also, this guy is listed in several places as 6'6".

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

Watson, Minnis, and Reischel as "non-tournament caliber players" seems unnecessarily harsh.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

I don't care about this particular guy. In general, every guy that isn't seven feet you say we shouldn't bother. I'm not being a contrarian, and I'm not the one with my head in the sand. If you gave me a choice between a seven footer and a 6'6" guy of the same ability, obviously I would prefer the seven footer. So would everyone here. You aren't a genius because you want a center. Everyone gets how helpful it would be, just as much as you do. But it is myopic to be dismissive about any other guy who could potentially help.

If you don't think a 3/4 type who can rebound and defend and finish at the rim would help next year's team, then you're crazy. The perfect is the enemy of the good. If there is a center out there somewhere that can help right away that nobody has discovered yet, sign me up. I'd be 100% behind bringing him in. Otherwise sign me up for the next best guy that can help.

You're right, Ace. I actually really like Watson and think he is a player. I still think we could always use another.

giovanni · Unread post by **giovanni** » 9 years ago

http://www.hutchnews.com/sports/healthy ... 7398e.html

http://zagsblog.com/rutgers/juco-forwar ... ers-visit/

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 9 years ago

The program is doing exactly what people were complaining they weren't doing last year, and now we're complaining that they are doing it? Last year we complained that they had no plan in place outside of landing Jarvis and Jared. Now they're interested, not even offering to this point, interested and keeping an eye on talent and we're upset because he's not a center? What if we need to replace someone we don't expect at this point? Shouldn't we know the lay of the land and have relationships built?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

I trust the staff knows what they're doing, in regards to recruiting.

There's nothing else to say, really.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

I only mentioned Watson, but you added the other two.
If you think that's harsh, fine. My opinion. I'm not backing down because anyone
may not like it.
RR2, if you read my post, I said IF SOMEONE ELSE LEAVES, fine.
We already have a guy named Iverson coming in for what you describe, TP.
I love how some guy, who we haven't even offered, has us listed under "interest"
and everyone has an orgasm. "Ooooh we have to have him" even though
nobody knows shit about him.
So, why did we recruit Butts, if we were going to recruit a similar juco?
Rambone, to say "we trust the staff" means we should just eliminate this site,
because that allows for zero opinion.
Amazing.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

I trust that there's going to be another opening.

Someone's going to leave imo, and we probably know who that someone is.

Rod, I didn't say we shouldn't talk about recruiting.

Just that we don't know who they are really going after. There are always surprises.

There's only about 6 weeks to the spring signing period. Something's going to pop, and hopefully we will be very pleased with who they get.

STC · Unread post by **STC** » 9 years ago

I would be surprised if Butler and Onyekaba are back next year.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 9 years ago

STC are you saying those Happy Birthday cupcakes were a sendoff?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

SPG, they do this for every player or staff during the season.
Andrea Hurley bakes the cupcakes.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 9 years ago

Rod, you're right, you did say that. And you're right that people are jumping too early based on only interest. I think that was my main point of what I said, though I only went at it from one side. It's just too early one way or the other to get worked up about this player. Any information we can get is good though. Now that Preston is gone we don't seem to get nearly as much recruiting info.

And I can't believe they're giving Matt Butler the Penny Lane send off!

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 9 years ago

I'm hoping Dan Hurley can bake up an A10 title Rod!!!

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Rod, the thing is we only have a slight disagreement on this, which is that I feel I'd rather have a guy *like* this (not necessarily this specific guy) than nobody or a seven footer that can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Like you, I'd also love to get a center. I just think in the absence of that it would be better to be able to throw waves of Lamonte Ulmer types at people - as a fallback plan to getting a true five.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Rod, the thing is we only have a slight disagreement on this, which is that I feel I'd rather have a guy *like* this (not necessarily this specific guy) than nobody or a seven footer that can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Like you, I'd also love to get a center. I just think in the absence of that it would be better to be able to throw waves of Lamonte Ulmer types at people - as a fallback plan to getting a true five.

In other words, we already have Iffy, a big guy who can't play. We can't afford another big guy sitting at the end of the bench. Ideally, we get a big who can contribute. If not, get SOMEONE who can contribute.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 9 years ago

People don't want waves of Lamonte Ulmer coming at them. Could really use some 6'10+ though.

I feel like it is a Div1 requisite to have a 6'10+ on the roster.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

VCU does okay with it. Look at Dayton now.

They don't have any real size, but their D makes up for it.

However the loss of Weber has killed them, in VCU's case.

The lack of size can be overcome in the A10. In the NCAA tournament though, you get the wrong matchup, and you're toast.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

I specifically said "outside the A-10".
Let's see what either do in the NCAAs with their small lineups.
All anyone ever mentions is the GM club from
a half decade ago.
This isn't 1965, where Wooden won with a 6'3" center.
I don't want the staff to go out and get just anyone to fill the scholarship,
just because they're tall and not much else.
Truth be told, guys like Butler and Oneykaba are better off
somewhere else, if they ever expect to play.

Rhodekill · Unread post by **Rhodekill** » 9 years ago

Jarelle Reischel is the most likely candidate to leave..He will be a 5th year senior who will have graduated and have a year of eligibility left and can go to any D1 program without sitting out a year...he is getting very little playing time now and will get even less next year...he can start someplace else and finish his career on a high note rather than sitting on the bench and being a practice player...

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

Or he can play a role on a Top 25 potential team that most would expect to make a run in the NCAA tournament. Not all players require tons of playing time.

Rhodekill · Unread post by **Rhodekill** » 9 years ago

ATPTourFan wrote:Or he can play a role on a Top 25 potential team that most would expect to make a run in the NCAA tournament. Not all players require tons of playing time.

that certainly is a possibility. Not one , however, that anyone who has played any significant amount of competitive sports would embrace....in my opinion..

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:I only mentioned Watson, but you added the other two.
If you think that's harsh, fine. My opinion. I'm not backing down because anyone
may not like it.

If this is to me, my comment was directed to TruePoint, which was why I quoted the language he used. You get so worked up about things.

TruePoint wrote:Next year you have five known players, two freshmen and some reserves that aren't tournament caliber players.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

"You get so worked up about things."

WHAT? HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT?

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:"You get so worked up about things."

WHAT? HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT?

Outstanding!

PlayMikeMotenMore · Unread post by **PlayMikeMotenMore** » 9 years ago

Rhode Kill,

Regarding Reischel being a role player next year...

"Not one , however, that anyone who has played any significant amount of competitive sports would embrace....in my opinion."

Speaking on behalf of myself, I 100% disagree with your statement. I'll spare you my resume of competitve sports and the levels at which I competed. But I will tell you that as I approached competing in college, I liked the fact that I didn't have to be the "primary breadwinner" on my team and that I had a role...and could be one of the pieces to the puzzle as opposed to taking on the majority of the pressure myself.

If you're on a team that you contribute to (whether it's 35 minutes as a starter, 15 minutes off the bench, or a walkon on the scout team in practice), if you like your teammates, if you like your coaches, if you like your school....those are a lot of good reasons to stay.

Rhodekill · Unread post by **Rhodekill** » 9 years ago

PlayMikeMotenMore wrote:Rhode Kill,

Regarding Reischel being a role player next year...

"Not one , however, that anyone who has played any significant amount of competitive sports would embrace....in my opinion."

Speaking on behalf of myself, I 100% disagree with your statement. I'll spare you my resume of competitve sports and the levels at which I competed. But I will tell you that as I approached competing in college, I liked the fact that I didn't have to be the "primary breadwinner" on my team and that I had a role...and could be one of the pieces to the puzzle as opposed to taking on the majority of the pressure myself.

If you're on a team that you contribute to (whether it's 35 minutes as a starter, 15 minutes off the bench, or a walkon on the scout team in practice), if you like your teammates, if you like your coaches, if you like your school....those are a lot of good reasons to stay.

It certainly is your right to disagree with me, as I stated it is my opinion...we will see what happens at the end of the academic year. It is hard to deny the logic of my statement regarding his situation ,however. The reality of the case is that he has experienced diminished playing time, faces the outlook of even further diminished playing time and has the ability to make a change and not have to sit out. While I do understand commitment to a team and your team mates there is a reason why north of 500 players a year opt to transfer...that reason is playing time. Most of them lose a year of eligibility and have to sit out a year and yet they do transfer. Competitive players who have confidence in their ability want to play and not be members of the scout team. All I am saying is that Reischel is the most likely candidate to transfer....we will have to wait to see how it plays out.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 9 years ago

I played for the Celtics in the 90s. It was tough being the man. Luckily I got there by Pat Riley seeking me out in the hinterlands of America. He would have never found me had he not stopped at a gas station and asked the attendant.

That Pat Riley! He drives all over seeking out talent! He doesn't use gps or advanced metrics, just gas stations and his gut.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

ace wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:I only mentioned Watson, but you added the other two.
If you think that's harsh, fine. My opinion. I'm not backing down because anyone
may not like it.
If this is to me, my comment was directed to TruePoint, which was why I quoted the language he used. You get so worked up about things.

TruePoint wrote:Next year you have five known players, two freshmen and some reserves that aren't tournament caliber players.

For the record, I was not trying to be harsh to anyone. I really like Earl am looking forward to him getting an increased role next year. As far as the other guys, I actually think I have a higher opinion if Reischel than a lot of people here. Both Reischel and Biggie will always have my respect for coming here to buoy the program when it wasn't a very desirable place to come. But the reality is that if those guys are getting big minutes you probably don't a have a great team. They can both serve roles and get on the court, I have no doubt about that. I just don't see them playing significant minutes on a tournament team.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Your meany!!!

SPG, stop making up stuff! Did I ever tell you when I was on
the Olympic Javelin Catching Team?

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 9 years ago

I'm with Rod on this. Need a big. Even if it is a c+ big over a B+ guard/wing. Although I am generally opposed to that way of building a roster, at some point, you need to address weaknesses rather than accumulate talent (in a vacuum). There are scores of teams who play small but they usually can shoot lights out. But I don't think this team will ever be better than average on jump shots and free throws so we need to find alternative ways of scoring. And, not for nothing, adding another legit rim protector could make the defense even better. There is enough talent for this team to do some pretty cool things over the next few years but I think the ceiling is capped a bit without another big man.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

Everyone thinks they need a big, including the decision makers. Check grad transfers.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Can't check grad transfers.
Nobody know who they are until they declare
they're transferring.
That won't happen until the season ends.

Unread post by **SGreenwell** » 9 years ago

ace wrote:Everyone thinks they need a big, including the decision makers. Check grad transfers.

Yeah, I agree. I don't think anyone denies that URI needs a big. For Hurley, it's going to be a matter of creating some sort of ranking / priority list. GBG brings up that they'd probably go for a C+ big over a B+ wing, which I don't disagree with. But what if the choice is (what they believe to be) an A+ guard or a C+ big? Or a B-guard vs. a D+ big? That's where it all gets murkier, and at this point, I think URI is in a stronger position if they wait and don't settle. Hurley and the program have momentum, and following the A-10 and postseason tournaments (whether it's NIT or NCAA), I think he'll be in an even stronger recruiting position. Yeah, they might have to focus on junior college or grad transfers, vs. a four-year big, but as long as it produces short-term results I think Hurley is a strong enough recruiter that he can use a player for just a year or two, strengthen the program, and get in on more recruits. A self-perpetuating cycle, if you will.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 9 years ago

I just want SLyWilliamsCaddy back

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

No, there's not an official list, but players unofficially start to voice their plans around this time, with a few already stating their plans very clearly. Basketball connections let a team know if it's a fit. As a potential tournament team next season, Rhode Island is an attractive option.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 9 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote:I'm with Rod on this. Need a big. Even if it is a c+ big over a B+ guard/wing. Although I am generally opposed to that way of building a roster, at some point, you need to address weaknesses rather than accumulate talent (in a vacuum). There are scores of teams who play small but they usually can shoot lights out. But I don't think this team will ever be better than average on jump shots and free throws so we need to find alternative ways of scoring. And, not for nothing, adding another legit rim protector could make the defense even better. There is enough talent for this team to do some pretty cool things over the next few years but I think the ceiling is capped a bit without another big man.

This is a well written post. And, I'm also with Rod and GBG on this issue.

Holy shit! Hope I don't have to be the referee.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Nah! GBG and I are are good.

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 9 years ago

Rod--anything thing new about the "big" you wrote about a while ago that appeared to be headed to Rhody?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Eli, as I wrote after relaying it here,
it was so vague, with no name mentioned,
even though it was from a pretty good source.
I have no clue, to be honest. Haven't heard anything since.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

If it's a 4 year guy, maybe they are lying in the weeds until the signing period?

I can see everybody's points about Gil. Our ceiling is indeed limited without another capable big guy.

Hassan needs to play the 4. Right now, we are getting NO production out of the 4 spot. That's a killer on any level.

Our guards can't shoot, and we have no PF. Well, our PF plays at the 5, and we have no real 5. Whichever.

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