'13 CT F Kuran Iverson (URI Commit)

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

BornNBred33 wrote:When is the last time URI basketball took a chance? Oh yeah, it was 1999, the last time we were in the dance. I think we should play it safe for the next 15 years....

Hey, hotshot, when did you see Kuran Iverson play in a real game??? In person???? When was the last time you coached a team? What kind of game-shape is he in? How many times has he practiced with the squad? What kind of practice shape is he in? Is the kid earning playing time in practice?????
According to Coach Hurley URI players earn game-time in practice. Don't you think it's going to make Coach Hurley and staff look hypocritical in front of the team?
Knowing Coach Hurley, he wouldn't throw all of this away -- his character, reputation, and desire to build -- on one guy.
Yeah, he's an "elite talent" according to everyone, and yeah, no one wants to wait.
Sometimes, well, sometimes you have to wait to get the best out of both situations.
His name is Coach Hurley.
Not Coach Faustus.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Doesn't look anything like Dan.
Does have ram horns sort of.....

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Best case scenario for us is, he's eligible starting this fall, gets 2 full seasons.

In the meantime, he gets acclimated with the school, team, program, practices, works on his game and whatnot.

Fully integrated and ready to go by November.

We could use him against PC.

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 9 years ago

giovanni wrote:Read that ironically his best friend on Memphis was former URI commit Trahson Burrell.

Further irony is that Burrell was getting 20 plus minutes per game and could very well have been the reason that Iverson was not getting minutes

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Well, regardless of when he can play (I like the idea of him having two
years from November 2015 on)
He's played 1.5 of his 4 years. Why would he not have his full
junior and senior years here?
Anyway, whatever the case is, I'm very happy we got him.
It's a huge step forward for the program.
Players like this, don't often land in Kingston.
The rest is up to Dan and staff.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

He can play two more full years if he doesn't play second semester next year. If he plays during a season that counts against his eligibility. It is the same situation as Billy Baron.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Billy played spring semester here and two years at Canisius.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

Iverson is a sophomore.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Billy played spring semester here and two years at Canisius.

Correct, but Billy transferred from UVA during his freshman year and Iverson is transferring as a sophomore.

Edit: I see Ace is all over it.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 9 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:Anyone know who the huge guy across from the visitor's
bench was?
Iverson is considered a major talent with serious NBA possibility,
To compare him to Outerbridge or Watson is nutzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!
Coach Fleming tweeted that an elite recruit would be at the basketball game. But it was unclear whether he was talking about a basketball recruit, a football recruit, or even possibly Iverson. It's a mystery right now. I'd like to know who he is.

Lotta football players around this afternoon not that that means anything.....

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Rod said something about the kid being huge. Is that huge as in wide, or as in tall, or both?

Might be a football recruit. Although, if he's 6'8" what position would he play on the football field?

Defensive end? Tight end?

BornNBred33 · Unread post by **BornNBred33** » 9 years ago

You are correct Rod, players like this NEVER land in kingston

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Dan knows we need more size....Gil is leaving....has to take a chance....who knows what will happen with recruiting in April....the puzzle is getting closer to complete...but not there yet.....

we have one scholly left...but I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with another one...

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Dan should decide starting lineups based on people's highlight tapes....what are we thinking.

Sly, Pappy, Lamar -- all were higher rated than this kid. Terrell was a Top 50 at one point. To say NEVER is wrong.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Somebody was getting after KMac pretty good on twitter today lol

giovanni · Unread post by **giovanni** » 9 years ago

It's funny I was checking out twitter during URI-VCU game and Koch had his usual consistent tweets. A lot of other national guys were tweeting, like Rothstein, Borzello, Zags a few more. McNamara was at the game but didn't tweet once until VCU took lead at end of game then when we lost. He may have not been covering game, but he couldn't find time to make comment for 35 minutes while URI played well, but seemed more eager when things started to turn for the worse. Maybe its just me.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Why expect anything different from him?

As long as PC is good, we're going to get the short end of the stick from the projo.

When push comes to shove, we know where their loyalties lie.

I accepted it long ago, it's never going to change.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Sly was 1976, Pappy was 1980, Lamar was 1997.
Those were long ago, and other than Lamar, old men
by now.
Iverson is the highest rated player at URI since Lamar.
That was 18 years ago.
So, yeah, these type of guys don't land in Kingston as a rule.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

giovanni wrote:It's funny I was checking out twitter during URI-VCU game and Koch had his usual consistent tweets. A lot of other national guys were tweeting, like Rothstein, Borzello, Zags a few more. McNamara was at the game but didn't tweet once until VCU took lead at end of game then when we lost. He may have not been covering game, but he couldn't find time to make comment for 35 minutes while URI played well, but seemed more eager when things started to turn for the worse. Maybe its just me.

As TP alluded to, someone let him know about that. Perhaps a bit too much.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Sly was 1976, Pappy was 1980, Lamar was 1997.
Those were long ago, and other than Lamar, old men
by now.
Iverson is the highest rated player at URI since Lamar.
That was 18 years ago.
So, yeah, these type of guys don't land in Kingston as a rule.

Fair enough Rod, it was NEVER not SELDOM that was in all caps on the previous post.

To think, a kid who had offers from Cincinnati, Georgetown and Depaul (Butts) will be our 7th-9th guy next year. Maybe more along the lines of the quality depth DH needs.

Matthews
Martin
Terrell
Garrett
Iverson
Thompson
Watson
Butts/Biggie/Reischel

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Makes one yearn for the CFL years.....NOT!

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

It will never be easy for URI to land top 50 type recruits, even if we go on a late 90's type run like we did with Harrick.

Small state school, second level conference, nice facilities but not Oklahoma St. level facilities, limited financial resources.

Will just never happen on a regular basis. Maybe one, once in a while.

Lamar was an outlier. He was a risk, a lot of other schools wouldn't touch him.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Sly was also a risk. Pappy is probably the most legit high level recruit we ever attracted, and he came b/c we had Sly. Harrick would have backed up Odom with another blue chipper if he stuck around another year, on name value alone. But 2/3 were risks, as is Iverson. At our level it will always be like that, I agree. We will win with 4-year players in their JR and SR seasons.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Most programs, like Iowa State, in that level below the
elite programs, are a combination of good four year players,
jucos and transfers.
Colorado State is having a great year, with a similar mix.
Nothing wrong with building a program that way.
You see more and more transfers on good teams.
With 400 plus and more every year, it's foolish not to take
chances now and then on a potential difference maker.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

I think Iverson is a risk only in that there may be an attitude problem. He's a good student.

The Harrick recruits other than Lamar, were they risks academically?

So, different types of risks.

We all know that if Harrick had stayed, URI would have continued to win, and maybe win big.

The other side to that, is later on, would we have been in trouble with the NCAA with academics?

Harrick's son managed to screw things up down in Georgia with his sham "classes". Would he have done that here?

I don't profess to know, or remember, a whole lot from that era. Rod would know, he's our living, breathing, URI "encyclopedia"!

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

Why was Sly a risk? Other than the fact that he was supposed to go to PC and ended up coming here, I don't remember anything else. If it was an academic risk, I don't see how he was more of a risk than any others, like for instance, his teammate Jiggy.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Sly was a headcase. Kraft suspended him at least twice.
As for Harrick's people, certainly Brian Woodward was a good citizen.
Marbury and Bell were great physical talents, but also head cases.
Basketball historically had had a greater share of difficult
personalities than any other sport.
Places like Duke can be selective as to character, but most schools have
to take chances.

BFC · Unread post by **BFC** » 9 years ago

Its the same situation as Andre Malone:
09-10 Full Year (Auburn)
10-11 1st Semester (Auburn)
11-12 2nd Semester (RI)
12-13 Full Year (RI)

I never understand why players transfer mid-semester, you cost yourself a full year of eligibility. Billy Baron was different because his dad was a head coach and it was emotional.

Rhodyhooopz · Unread post by **Rhodyhooopz** » 9 years ago

Fantastic. It's about practice!!!!

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

If you read the comments on ESPN on the Iverson
story, they just pounded the "practice" thing into the ground.
There were only a handful of basketball related comments.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 9 years ago

This is great news!

I'd love it if somehow he were eligible to play two full seasons, but I don't see any way that comes true. Would be very happy to be proven wrong - as others have stated working players in mid-season is very difficult.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

At least if he is working in mid-season next year then he will have been practicing with the team for awhile. Much different then trying to work him in right now for example.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Sly was a headcase. Kraft suspended him at least twice.
As for Harrick's people, certainly Brian Woodward was a good citizen.
Marbury and Bell were great physical talents, but also head cases.
Basketball historically had had a greater share of difficult
personalities than any other sport.
Places like Duke can be selective as to character, but most schools have
to take chances.

Man I was in a class with Bell my freshman year, I could tell some great stories but I don't think this is the place for it!

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

I remember TBell with the LI Panthers, and
Gary Charles just screaming and f-bombing him during a timeout.
Charles got so exasperated that he turned to me and said,
"YOU tell him!"

At lease Iverson is a good student. That at least is a big positive.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 9 years ago

Remember a PC game a few years ago and we were down like a million points late probably less than a minute to go can't recall the specifics....T Bell steals the ball and takes off from the foul line for one of his thunderous dunks.

Everybody just sort of stared at him.

Dude could skywalk tho, amazing.

ElmCityRhody · Unread post by **ElmCityRhody** » 9 years ago

has hurley or the school made any official comment on kuran ?

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 9 years ago

It sounds like he only has 1 1/2 years left to play. I would like to see a news release from the school saying what their understanding is and whether or not an appeal to the NCAA makes sense to get a longer eligibility.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Come on people. This is URI.
We know they'll announce this next fall or something.
They're never on real time.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

If he isn't enrolling until today, then I wouldnt expect anything to be announced before that happens.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

I case anyone hasn't seen it, here's Jeff Borzello's take on Iverson to URI. Pretty positive, too:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... sland-rams

steveystuds06 · Unread post by **steveystuds06** » 9 years ago

eli#10 wrote:It sounds like he only has 1 1/2 years left to play. I would like to see a news release from the school saying what their understanding is and whether or not an appeal to the NCAA makes sense to get a longer eligibility.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but he played his freshman year and the first semester of his sophomore year wouldn't it be 2 1/2 years of eligibility?

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 9 years ago

What ever happened to Sly Williams caddy?

He was like really hot on this board last summer.

URI_IEP · Unread post by **URI_IEP** » 9 years ago

Seawrightspostgame wrote:What ever happened to Sly Williams caddy?

He was like really hot on this board last summer.

He said he was Pat Reilly's best friend, but after Mr. Reilly denied any relationship with SWC his credibility took a hit and he went into hiding.

NJ03 · Unread post by **NJ03** » 9 years ago

I hear SWC is touring the country on a scouting trip with Mr Riley in his swagged-out, Miami Heat clad, Cadillac Escalade.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

He will play second semester next year as a junior and then play his senior year. That's it. Let's drop the 2 1/2 year stuff and the playing immediately stuff.

steveystuds06 · Unread post by **steveystuds06** » 9 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote:He will play second semester next year as a junior and then play his senior year. That's it. Let's drop the 2 1/2 year stuff and the playing immediately stuff.

Oh damn well still happy with 1 1/2! Can't wait to watch him play!

CT Rhody · Unread post by **CT Rhody** » 9 years ago

You have 5yrs to play 4 so why wouldn't he have 2.5yrs remaining?

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

CT Rhody wrote:You have 5yrs to play 4 so why wouldn't he have 2.5yrs remaining?

Because he will play in all four of his first four seasons. There are no half-years for eligibility purposes.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Bummer, but true.

Best hope is the NCAA rules this spring that he can play 2 full years.

If there's a chance, I'm sure URI will file an appeal.

I kind of doubt they'll win, but who knows.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

If Memphis really terminated his scholarship in the middle of the season, that could be grounds to at least file an appeal to make him eligible at the beginning of next season. I'm not sure exactly how that argument would go, but I'm sure if somebody asked me to I could craft one.

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