'16 MD PF Quadree Smith (Providence Commit)

Bos8 · Unread post by **Bos8** » 10 years ago

Heard we are getting involved with a big man named Quadree Smith. He is a 2014 kid from Potomac High School in Maryland. Originally committed to UNC-G I believe. 6'7'ish, and down to about 250.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

It looks like he could also walk-on the football team.

STC · Unread post by **STC** » 10 years ago

Interesting read on Smith, also the end of the article references previous offers....

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recru ... otomac-md/

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 10 years ago

Could he be as good as the George mason forward they rode deep in the tourney?

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

Is this offer in any way related to either Gustys or Hare? Obviously they can't have all three and Gustys is announcing next week.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Why? He left a school, because he didn't feel like the star anymore.
290lbs. to 250lbs. only 6'7". Big man width wise.
Guy makes Ed Brown look skinny.
Pass. We need scorers.
Maybe they're hedging their bets with Gustys and/or Hare?
Still, he's not a center. Rated a 2 star. Nah!

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

Looks like he could play for "Team Load."

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

Interesting write-up

ESPN Analyst
Updated 02/11/2014
Strengths:
There's something to being a big man and embracing your role. Smith is the kind of kid who has no identity crisis. He's a business man in the lane and given his obvious size, he's a problem. He puts everything he can get his hands on away (and he's got good hands). Think of an NFL left tackle in a hoops uniform. There's little resistance that can be offered against him going to the rim. Now, he's not going to dunk it when he gets there but he puts away his chance. What's amazing is how quickly he can get off his feet. Has the nimbleness of Glen "Big Baby" Davis but more beef. Making it even better is that he can pass.

Weaknesses:
He needs to trim down. There's no getting around it. He's got the same body as Marquette's Devante Gardner or Miami's Reggie Johnson; though he's two inches shorter than both. He's wide so even when he loses the weight he'll have his competitive edge because of the size of his rump and the width of his shoulders.

Bottom Line:
There's a market for guys like this, especially to programs that crafted post players from guys like him. Competitive as anything and one of the most productive kids on a very good high school team. He's going to smile at you, collide with you and punish in the paint all in a few quick steps. At first look, you don't think much of him. Watched him 2-3 times and your appreciation grows exponentially with each viewing. He'll sign mid to high-major as beauty is in the eye of the beholder but productivity belong to Smith.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Two guys I remember as chubby high schoolers were
Mark Aquirre and Adrian Dantley.
Both took the weight off and kept it off, leading to great careers.
They were forwards, though.
Maybe they can have a transplant and give Hare some of Smith's girth?

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 10 years ago

Murray at work

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote:Murray at work

False. I was led to believe he did nothing (kidding)

But yeah, MD and Mid-Atlantic area are his.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Bout time.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Rod, like I said, it's time to get the 2014's. The 15's can wait, until the new hire.

Bos8 · Unread post by **Bos8** » 10 years ago

Team loaded will be in pittsburgh this weekend. Will be big Q's last real chance to be seen as a 2014 kid.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 10 years ago

Seems to be a lot of video on him from a youtube search.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... dree+Smith

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Hey! He could be The URI Quad!!!

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 10 years ago

Brilliant !

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Hey! He could be The URI Quad!!!

Haha, it took me a minute to get that one. I love it though.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

"TEAM LOADED", no kidding!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, he makes Ralph Kramden look skinny…..

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 10 years ago

Perfect red shirt candidate.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

adam914 wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:Hey! He could be The URI Quad!!!
Haha, it took me a minute to get that one. I love it though.

Must've been all those post-High Noon munchies that got to the Quad!!!!!!

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

Reminds me of a great RI Big I played with, Corey Fischer. We played with Greg Callucci (later of GW fame) and Rohan Russell and Artie Confessor. I think Bar may have actually coaches us a bit, along with the great Jamie Benton. I like his frame. Could be a body in the now defunct Aaman role

Unread post by **SGreenwell** » 10 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Reminds me of a great RI Big I played with, Corey Fischer. We played with Greg Callucci (later of GW fame) and Rohan Russell and Artie Confessor. I think Bar may have actually coaches us a bit, along with the great Jamie Benton. I like his frame. Could be a body in the now defunct Aaman role

That was my thinking exactly - Without Aaman, you still need at least one guy who's comfortable mixing it up down low, for when you are matched up with a skilled post player that doesn't want to get shoved around. Also, from a roster construction standpoint, once you get past your top guy and his back-up (i.e. 10 deep), it's probably better to go for "change of pace" players or developmental projects as opposed to a third person who does the same thing.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 10 years ago

I like iffy but if he is 6"6 like some say here and this kid is taller....

Plus bigger...

Nobody would write up anything about iffy like that write up. Reggie Johnson was the most important player on that miami team. These guys set great screens, clear out space underneath, generally are very successful at the collegiate level.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

Well, the new weight room will have at least one full-time resident if THE QUAD signs.

BFC · Unread post by **BFC** » 10 years ago

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

After re-reading the ESPN write-up, the things that caught my attention were: 1) good hands; 2) nimbleness; 3) quick feet; 4) competitive as anything; 5) can pass; and, 6) "He'll sign mid to high-major as beauty is in the eye of the beholder but productivity belongs to Smith."
This could be, with coaching-coaching-coaching, the diamond-in-the-rough, URI's version of McDermott, Cotton, et al., that Rod and others always mention.
If it were up to me, I'd do it and take the chance. That weight room and a cardio-vascular program, the URI sports nutritionist, and the kid's natural competitiveness will melt another 20-25 pounds excess weight by end of September, early October.
THE QUAD.

Andrew · Unread post by **Andrew** » 10 years ago

Poor man's Mo Alie-Cox?

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 10 years ago

I kinda like the sound of this guy, specifically the bit where his best quality is noted as being "strong hands." One of the most important traits in a big man, and something that is very difficult to teach. Usually a player has it or doesn't, not typically much growth in that area.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

More like a poor man's Vince Wilfork.
Why do we need another project at this point?
A 6'7" one at that. It's not like he's 6'9" or taller.
Oneykaba is a project, Hare ,if he comes back, is a project.
We need finished or closer to finished products than this guy.
It's not like we have a Larry Farmer around to work with post players.
What does anyone but Dan say? "Um, I saw this on film once, so
let's try it?", as the player looks down to his coach.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 10 years ago

If the ESPN write-up that Ace posted is anything close to accurate (good hands, quick feet, good post passer), than he's closer to a finished product than most HS big men.

Polished HS post players are an extreme rarity, and are generally recruited at the high-major level.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 10 years ago

Good hands would be a big plus. The next pass Iffy handles cleanly will be his first ....

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

Zumba may help.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

The People's Choice, also has hands of stone.
This guy is only 6'7"!
You guys scream we're not recruiting studs, and
yet are gaga over a two star with a very few offers, who transferred to another prep
school, because he wasn't the star?
I'll take Gustys any day.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 10 years ago

I'm not head-over-heels on this guy, but as a plan B for Gustys, I'd take him in a second.

Don't you love undersized PFs? I recall being told many times of the brilliance of Charles Barkley, Art Stephenson, ARD, and many more who were less than stellar athletes that still were able to get the job done.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

THE QUAD has some interesting tweets……….
From the videos I've just watched, this kid certainly has talent and basketball skills, and is not some fat slobotnik taking up space.

Here's the link:
https://twitter.com/Dont_Hate_Q

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

We have Hassan Martin.
I think Dan is leaning towards a three guard offense, for the
future.
Yes, I love bullish undersized post players. You're right. They are lots of fun to
watch.
I just wonder how another project works on a team that needs to win, now.
Also, I'm put off by the transferring because, "I wasn't the star anymore."
Doesn't that bother you a little?
Is this guy ready for Bootcamp Dan?

Unread post by **SGreenwell** » 10 years ago

sf2010 wrote:I'm not head-over-heels on this guy, but as a plan B for Gustys, I'd take him in a second.

Don't you love undersized PFs? I recall being told many times of the brilliance of Charles Barkley, Art Stephenson, ARD, and many more who were less than stellar athletes that still were able to get the job done.

DeJuan Blair, Michael Sweetney and Glen Davis are also examples that this type of player can do better at the college level than you'd expect, just because their physiques are going to get them plenty of rebounds, assuming their hands are good.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Watched a couple of the films on him.
In one,he didn't cross midcourt, three times
in a row.
He also stood around on offense, when he did.
Not seeing the charm that some are.
If he pulls some of that with Dan, we could lose our coach,
because he might kill The Quad.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

"In Quad We Trust"

zporiri · Unread post by **zporiri** » 10 years ago

not much in this video that impresses me. granted it looks like organized pick up, but still. no hustle in boxing out, gets beat for rebounds by guys smaller than him

Bos8 · Unread post by **Bos8** » 10 years ago

Zporiri, I wouldn't go by anything you see from the Goodman league. That's one of those Pro-Am summer leagues. Watch AAU film from Team Takeover, or watch film from him at either Paul VI or Potomac. I'm not saying that he is or isn't good enough to play for us, I just wouldn't use film from the Goodman league for an eval.
Has played with a ton of talent. Paul VI was a top 25 type talent private school in the loaded WCAC. When he transferred, he won a state championship with Potomac High School. All 5 of their starters were D1 kids. (Along with Q they had Dion Wiley- Maryland, Randall Broodie is a top 50 2016 kid, Dyjar Dickson signed with Niagra, and Anthony Smith is a 2015 MM/MM+)

rhodyrob · Unread post by **rhodyrob** » 10 years ago

Remember we do have Watson for two years, He is an athlete,

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

Alex Kline @TheRecruitScoop · 20h
RT @MarcusHelton: 2014 Potomac (MD) PF Quadree Smith will take a postgrad year at IMG Academy (FL).

Maybe Kenny Natt (NBA) and HC Mike Kelly (formerly at RIC, etc.,) can instill a little work ethic into The Quad...

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

The Quad is visiting PC today.

2015 6'8 IMG Academy forward Quadree Smith is on a visit to Providence today.

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 9 years ago

He seems similar to Berry

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Maybe they could have a Sumo wrestling match at half time?

Ramsey · Unread post by **Ramsey** » 8 years ago

I said it before I will say it again. Berry is horrible. he is fat and way out of shape. couldn't even play for 8 min stretches last season. Since he arrived on campus 2 weeks ago. I have personally watched him get absolutely abused by not just Hassan, which is to be expected but by earl Watson and even Onyekaba has made this kid look like he has no business in D1 ball.

The sad part about it, is the fact that this is the exact type of recruit that Hurley has always railed against. Hes always maintained that he wasn't going to give up a scholly on somebody who was a total reach because we were desperate. Well that's exactly what he did and with a kid whos only got 3 years of eligibility left. that is probably the only good caveat is that he will only eat up 3 yrs instead of 4.

He will not give us anything on the court this year and I don't see him as being a contributor ever. Stanford robinson is more likely to get in the game this season then berry.

They jumped the gun because they felt pressure to get a big on the roster. well they messed up. ARD was disgusted with the kids effort the other day and sent him to the showers early when he couldn't even complete an hr practice without having to beg out and sit down.

Knee jerk reaction by a staff clearly worried about there biggest weakness. But at the end of the day, a 6'8 tub of lard doesn't fix our lack of a true big. just makes the spot more glaring. Kid has no hands, zero touch. Mike hart told me that Bonzie colson used to put up 40 and 20 on this kid in scrimmages by just wanting it more.

The worst part is, the staff put him up against ousmane ba and technically I guess Berry was slightly better. But they got to see what hes got and its certainly not worthy of where we are intending to be.

Hurley grew up in his fathers system. his father has always repeatedly won, not by having the best bigs but by having the best guards, the best defense and the most effort. mix in some court intelligence and that bob sr toughness and bang you got st anthonys. The season thought to be St. anthonys best ever was the undefeated season chronicled in Adrian Wojnarowskis "the miracle of st Anthony" as anybody who has followed the hurley family or read that book will know, the only big they had on that team was former St joes forward Ahmad Nivins who sat out the beginning of that season and wasn't even a starter as the friars won the mythical national championship.

Danny certainly had some good post guys at St benedicts like Tristan Thompson and even a couple 7 footers mixed in here and there but the bottom line is, this isn't high school basketball. We can make do by having the best guards in the league and the best power forward and will most likely run through the A10 but we will see what our true problems are if we can beat tcu and square up with Maryland.

Maryland goes: C-Diamond Stone 6'11 260, PF-Robert Carter 6'9 250, SF-Jake Layman 6'8 210 as starters with PF/C-Damonte Dodd 6'9 240 and C-Michal Cekovsky 7'0 240 coming off the bench. Plus they got a SG named Jared Nickens who is there first guy off the bench and is the size of our best post player at 6'7.

All this stuff about us not being able to recruit bigs is total BS every other school out there whether they are P5 or not seemingly has guys coming off the bench that are over 6'8 and can actually play. We aren't asking for the moon here. Damonte Dodd was a 3 star recruit rated outside of the top 150 and last year as a sophomore he played 15.8mpg and put up 4.2ppg 4rpg and 1.6bpg. These guys are out there we just aren't really looking for them and that's the bottom line.

We offer 10-15 PFs and Centers; well we offer over 50 Guards. They are starting to make a name for themselves as a team that potential Big-man recruits aren't interested in playing at. They see us as a place for guards to run the show. Adding ARD will certainly help that stigma but I really think the real problem is that Hurley and staff don't necessarily see bigs as being key to what we are doing. Guard mentality.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 8 years ago

Heck, Ramsey: Tell us how you really feel about Andre Berry…...

Dre3000 · Unread post by **Dre3000** » 8 years ago

Ramsey, what day was this workout you watched Berry get thrown out of? I know Hass pretty well and not only did he say that never happened, but he also said the guys haven't done ANYTHING head to head. Everything has been 1 on 0 or guard+forward pick and roll/pop situations with no defense or with coaches playing token defense. Not sure why Hass would need to make that up, or why you would for that matter. Personally I have no clue what the kid looks like, but I really don't care how good/bad he is right now. I'm more concerned with seeing the development of Earl and seeing how they use Iverson at the 4. I see the most likely situation being Earl stepping into Gil's minutes, Kuran getting TJ's minutes and more, and Iffy sliding into Earl's minutes with Berry taking a year on the bench like Iffy did last yr.

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