'13 NJ SG Hallice Cooke (Iowa St Transfer)

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote:Crowded back court? This guy would be a huge get. Transfers make me nervous in general but this is a massive spot of need. Go get him.

Agree,
I would not call our backcourt "crowded".
We need guys with shooting percentages like this, and size to boot.
Would be a very, very good transfer.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Seawright, have you EVER seen Cooke play?
He plays better defense than EC. He has a better handle than EC.
People look only at offense, but there's two sides of the ball.

Rhody4012016 · Unread post by **Rhody4012016** » 10 years ago

Who are we competing against to land him?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

At least St. Joe's, who lose Galloway.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

I see EC/Hallice the same way I see Gustys/Hare. I would take both of them 10/10 times over either one or the other, and I see no point in trying to argue who is better because it really doesn't matter. Give me all of the talented guys I can get and we'll figure out how to use them later. In Hallice's case, there are no concerns about whether he'd see the floor for us. You could pencil him in as a starter in fall 2015 the day he gets to campus, IMO.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 10 years ago

I'd love to see this work out. Sometimes with players of his caliber it's always a guess as to whether their game will translate well to the college level. Scoring 8ppg at Oregon St. as a frosh is a very good sign that he could be a solid player for URI. This would be a fantastic get.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

As much as I want players to come in and play right away, this kid is one worth waiting a year for. I can only imagine what kind of backcourt we could have with the 3 of them.

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 10 years ago

other info on Hallice. Born in Harlem ,father is credit manager, mother housewife, national honor society in his senior year in high school, outside interests are pin pong, collecting basketball shoes.

Do we have a Ping Pong team at URI, Club? If not,........................

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Tell you one thing. anyone with a Twitter account,
go to Hallice Cooke, and there's endless tweets about him.
Oregon State people are very upset that he's leaving.
Wow! Talk about a potential win, win, win situation.
The player, our team, and the St. Anthony's connection.
Plus, he's a good student, so no APR concerns.
It would be the perfect storm.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 10 years ago

Robinson has been a Baron-like bust at Oregon State. Great things were expected .....

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

McRam wrote:other info on Hallice. Born in Harlem ,father is credit manager, mother housewife, national honor society in his senior year in high school, outside interests are pin pong, collecting basketball shoes.

Do we have a Ping Pong team at URI, Club? If not,........................

No Pin Pong team, but, there are plenty of basketball sneakers. We just have to fill some of them. lol

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

The only thing that kept Robinson in his job was a mysterious
17 million dollar Federal grant to Oregon State.
Gee, wonder how that happened?
He won at Brown with Glen Miller's players and left an empty cupboard
when he went to Oregon State.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:The only thing that kept Robinson in his job was a mysterious
17 million dollar Federal grant to Oregon State.
Gee, wonder how that happened?

That's pretty absurd. Did Glenn Beck tell you that? World Net Daily? lol

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 10 years ago

That's an urban legend that's been disproved.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Excuse me, it was a 28 million dollar stimulus from DC.
Did URI get a 28 million dollar stimulus?
What a coincidence!

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 10 years ago

TruePoint wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:The only thing that kept Robinson in his job was a mysterious
17 million dollar Federal grant to Oregon State.
Gee, wonder how that happened?
That's pretty absurd. Did Glenn Beck tell you that? World Net Daily? lol

I am a pretty conservative guy but that is some tin foil hat sh*t right there. Straight from the Glenn Beck talking points.

Rhody4012016 · Unread post by **Rhody4012016** » 10 years ago

There is a ping pong club or someone was trying to start one last semester. As for shoes he will fit in with the rest of the team.

Andrew · Unread post by **Andrew** » 10 years ago

TruePoint wrote:I see EC/Hallice the same way I see Gustys/Hare. I would take both of them 10/10 times over either one or the other, and I see no point in trying to argue who is better because it really doesn't matter. Give me all of the talented guys I can get and we'll figure out how to use them later. In Hallice's case, there are no concerns about whether he'd see the floor for us. You could pencil him in as a starter in fall 2015 the day he gets to campus, IMO.

Spot on; especially the bolded (my emphasis).

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

I got a little suspicious when OSU changed their mascot from the Beavers to the Sharptons. lol

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote:
TruePoint wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:The only thing that kept Robinson in his job was a mysterious
17 million dollar Federal grant to Oregon State.
Gee, wonder how that happened?
That's pretty absurd. Did Glenn Beck tell you that? World Net Daily? lol
I am a pretty conservative guy but that is some tin foil hat sh*t right there. Straight from the Glenn Beck talking points.

There is a difference between being conservative and being certifiably insane. Glenn Beck is unquestionably the latter.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

I was at least talking about Cooke's coach.
Let's hijack this thread and make it about Glen Beck.

CT Rhody · Unread post by **CT Rhody** » 10 years ago

Hey quit all the politics talk, I was hoping you guys on some good news on Cooke before I realized somebody is just obsessed with bashing some guy wih nothing to do with URI basketball.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:I was at least talking about Cooke's coach.
Let's hijack this thread and make it about Glen Beck.

Let's be real. You were talking about Cooke's coach by mentioning some looney political conspiracy. If you don't want to talk about looney political conspiracies, don't bring them up. I sure as hell won't.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Google it. Pretty widespread stuff when it happened, but don't let that stop you
from making it about Glen Beck (who I don't even like).

Unread post by **SGreenwell** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Google it. Pretty widespread stuff when it happened, but don't let that stop you
from making it about Glen Beck (who I don't even like).

It's been pretty widely refuted: http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barack ... imulus.htm and http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/oregonstate.asp

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

Why doesn't someone just go to the OSU website, research its federal grant money, etc., and send all the politicos reading this thread a report………..

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Where did my post go?
This is thread about Hallice Cooke, not Glen Beck.
Hopefully, we'll get a better fix on where he's considering, soon.

SlyWilliamsCaddy · Unread post by **SlyWilliamsCaddy** » 10 years ago

Just talked to a trusted source who says that the staff is all in on this kid. Apparently the Cooke family is very friendly with the hurleys. Hallice once considered going to St benedicts up until dan left for wagner. Always thought that cooke was underrated as he only averaged about 9ppg 2.5apg and 2rpg for his whole career at St. Anthonys but you have to keep in mind those teams were absolutely stacked. During his time there, they had an 80+ game winning streak and also won the mythical high school national championship.

The kid hit 41 three pointers last year and even though he only averaged about a steal a game, by the end of the yr Craig Robinson had him guarding the other teams best perimeter player. Not to mention the fact that by mid season he had basically become their 2nd scoring option. Started out backing up the point position but started to play more 2g and wing as the season went on. Versatility is always a plus in our system. Supposedly he had no problems at OSU and enjoyed the campus and the coaching staff but he saw the writing on the wall. He wants to play in the tournament and with him gone, OSU has now lost its 5 highest scorers from last season. Even if Hally evolved overnight into Kobe Bryant, he wasn't taking that team to the tourney any time soon.

So now he wants to come home. In my heart I fear that a team like VCU is gonna swoop in but we def have an inside track. My source says that if we can convince him to come here that the staff will look into applying for a hardship waiver to allow him to play immediately. The d*ckheads at the good ole NCAA have actually been granting a lot more of these in recent years and its usually for kids that are trying to relocate closer to home(ie, sick family member or extenuating circumstances) but Hallice coming to Rhode Island (just a 3 hr train ride from Union City, NJ) from Oregon would certainly apply.

Finally, I know im getting ahead of myself but if we could get this kid here and eligible and also get Jordan back on campus; Rod and Iggy you guys would prob know, but other then the fab five has there ever been a team that returned four sophomore starters who all made their respective Conference All-Rookie teams?

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 10 years ago

No offense, but these "trusted" sources often turn out to be wrong. However, I'd be thrilled to be proven wrong.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Well, the kid played for Dan's father.
Robert Cooke is a good guy, his son is a good student.
What concerns me is, we went after Cooke's back court mate, Josh Brown.
a lot harder than we recruited Cooke.
Now, they have the benefit of retrospection to revise their thinking.
Not sure what kind of hardship waiver Cooke could get. Minnis and Reischel played
far from home. I think you'd need something more compelling.
If we get him (I worry about VCU and St. Joe's, although no list has come out)
we'd be the most loaded with young talent than any time in my
following the program.
All Dan would have to do is coach them into a winning team.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 10 years ago

Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:If we get him we'd be the most loaded with young talent than any time in my following the program.
All Dan would have to do is coach them into a winning team.

Which should in turn make recruiting that much easier, and then the next year you're even more loaded, and as the classes get more experienced and win and move on, you reload with more young talent, who get older and more experiences and win big and move on. And then you reload again, and so on.

That's the plan. Would really accelerate it if you could bring in a guy like Hallice to go with what's here already. No reason he shouldn't think he would play in a tournament during his career if he comes here at this point to join up with the other young pieces we've got already.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

adam914 wrote:Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam.

LMAO....my thoughts exactly!

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

adam914 wrote:Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam. Don't get your hopes up, Adam.

Yeah adam914, you'd better work on getting something else up……….

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

Are Iowa State and Illinois close to New Jersey?

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 10 years ago

So if Hare comes back this year, could we still sign both Cooke and Gustys? That would be one helluva team. Added to EC, Hass and Garrett. With O in reserve.

Andrew · Unread post by **Andrew** » 10 years ago

theblueram wrote:So if Hare comes back this year, could we still sign both Cooke and Gustys? That would be one helluva team. Added to EC, Hass and Garrett. With O in reserve.

Yes. Handy scholarship spreadsheet:

SlyWilliamsCaddy · Unread post by **SlyWilliamsCaddy** » 10 years ago

Rhody74, usually im 100% with you; but with that said, not gonna name drop and get him in trouble but its a family member who works in the athletic directors office and hes never said anything to me before unless theres some credence to it. Wasn't saying that its set in stone, just that theres mutual interest and that cooke wants to get his studies in order before making a decision. One other tidbit, apparently Bobby has also reached out to the father who hes close with to express his interest as well. Hard to imagine convincing the kid to go to buffalo when most anybody out there recognizes that buff is going to be a short stop for Bobby on his way to a bigger job. I know that the brothers have a handshake type agreement to not recruit against each other but at the end of the day they are in close proximity to each other and obviously are connected in the same bball circle. Bottom line is that eventually they are going to have to compete with each other for kids, its just the reality of the situation. Hopefully we have the better hurley in the long run.

Rod, funny enough I heard the same thing about brown but I also heard that cooke didn't like the fact that the situation was so uncertain here. We were bringing in 3 transfers (plus onyekaba) we already had a starting pg and sg in powell and Munford, Buchanan was here as well, we were on the brink of signing EC and Hassan and also at the same time we were in the final 3 for Jon Severe, Deandre Bembry and the 2 Dayton kids (Scoochie Smith and Kendall Pollard). Im sure nobody likes being the second choice on his own team as we were after Brown much more then we were after Hallice but at the end of the day id prefer a kid who looked at that situation and thought to himself "im better then all of those guys" and took the challenge head on. Maybe now he will.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

All true SWC. Also, no sense in burning a source. We need sources on KeaneyBlue to keep
things like this thread moving along.
We were also chasing Terrance Samuel, who is a real talent.
Guess it was, whichever PG signed first, that was it.
Glad it was EC, even if is isn't a pure PG.
It was also, the Hurley isn't staying rumors rampant in New Jersey and elsewhere,
that hurt. Certainly not the case today. Funny, I think Brown came closest to coming here,
and he seems to be at the bottom of the PG list of one we were after, at least based on last year.
You have one established stud, EC, a potential ace in Garrett, and a couple of role players, in
Minnis and Buchanan, who'll be gone by the time Cooke would be eligible.
Easy to sell playing time, and an upwardly mobile program.
Maybe a new day and a new start with Dan could make the difference?
I really hope so. I haven't gotten this jacked on a transfer possibility since
Irv Chatman. Hope he turns out better than Irv. LOL!

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

This thread is reminding me about how many final 2s and final 3s we have been.

RoadyJay · Unread post by **RoadyJay** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote: Minnis and Buchanan, who'll be gone by the time Cooke would be eligible.

Minnis will still be here... but that shouldn't make a difference

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Minnis is only a sophomore this year. I know that.
TJ will be gone.
Nothing for Cooke to be concerned with.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 10 years ago

SWC, interesting details that give a lot more credence to what you said. (No, I don't expect you to burn a source .... like Rod said, we need them.) Let's hope that we can get him, even if he has to sit out a year.

Miramfan · Unread post by **Miramfan** » 10 years ago

Cooke is a stud! I hope he is coming. He and E C would be a great duo.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 10 years ago

I wonder what Cooke's timetable is for a decision. That would affect whether or not we sign another SG. Hopefully he makes a decision pretty soon so we're not left with neither.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 10 years ago

SLY: thanks for the info. I'm hearing the sand thing: Hurley wants him. I can't see scenario where he plays right away, though. I think he'd be the missing piece
Adam: thanks for the laugh

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

Why couldn't he play right away? A three-guard offense to start, Martin and whoever claims a starting gig?? It's not just who starts, but who finishes. If your talent is guard-oriented then go with the flow. If it's a standard 2-2-1, fine. Whatever it takes to win.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

bressler3south wrote:Why couldn't he play right away? A three-guard offense to start, Martin and whoever claims a starting gig?? It's not just who starts, but who finishes. If your talent is guard-oriented then go with the flow. If it's a standard 2-2-1, fine. Whatever it takes to win.

I think the point is he can't play right away because of transfer rules.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

True. He still would have 3 years eligibility.

Rhodyhooopz · Unread post by **Rhodyhooopz** » 10 years ago

Start the prayer machine.

Dear God,

We here at URI have suffered for our sins for over 14 years now. Please allow us to feel the joys again and bring us this player.

Oh yea, remember Keaney blue is based on the color of heaven!!!

Amen.

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