'15 CT PF Steve Enoch (UCONN Verbal)

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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

Unread postby bigappleram » 3 years ago

Agree with the move if its a fait accompli he is a UConn commit. I just cannot see a CT kid who feels any love from UConn choosing URI or any other school over the national champion. Also, if you want to make Silva feel like he is your priority this may be a symbolic move.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

Unread postby Ram Stampede!!! » 3 years ago

I agree. This next week and month of visits is going to be interesting. But we only have 2 scholarships left for 2015 right?
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

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bigappleram wrote:Agree with the move if its a fait accompli he is a UConn commit. I just cannot see a CT kid who feels any love from UConn choosing URI or any other school over the national champion. Also, if you want to make Silva feel like he is your priority this may be a symbolic move.

I thought the same thing about Silva. If he knows Enoch is visiting 3 days after he is, he has that to think about, even if Enoch was a pretty sure lock for UCONN. Now Silva is the #1 recruit we are going after at his position. That surely can't hurt and I'm sure Dan points that out to him.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

Unread postby ace » 3 years ago

Ram Stampede!!! wrote:I agree. This next week and month of visits is going to be interesting. But we only have 2 scholarships left for 2015 right?


As of now, yes, but there are a few ways (with varying degrees of probability) that one more could open up.

The questions is- if the opportunity presents itself, would they accept commitments from 3 additional players before the number situation completely sorts itself out?
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

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ace wrote:
Ram Stampede!!! wrote:I agree. This next week and month of visits is going to be interesting. But we only have 2 scholarships left for 2015 right?


As of now, yes, but there are a few ways (with varying degrees of probability) that one more could open up.

The questions is- if the opportunity presents itself, would they accept commitments from 3 additional players before the number situation completely sorts itself out?

Would this relate to EC, or someone transferring?
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

Unread postby RAM67 » 3 years ago

I love EC as a player, but I don't see him leaving after his sophomore year. He still needs at least 2 more years, in my opinion.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

Unread postby seanmc94 » 3 years ago

reading the tea leaves; it would seem the DH is going all in on Silva, knowing the Enoch was a long shot. Big week for Rhody in 2015.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

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Billyboy78 wrote:
ace wrote:
Ram Stampede!!! wrote:I agree. This next week and month of visits is going to be interesting. But we only have 2 scholarships left for 2015 right?


As of now, yes, but there are a few ways (with varying degrees of probability) that one more could open up.

The questions is- if the opportunity presents itself, would they accept commitments from 3 additional players before the number situation completely sorts itself out?

Would this relate to EC, or someone transferring?


I think what ACE is referring to is the Mike Powell situation.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

Unread postby ace » 3 years ago

No, Powell's scholarship comes off regardless.


Jarelle is an excellent student, who is starting his fourth year in college as a junior.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

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ace wrote:No, Powell's scholarship comes off regardless.


Jarelle is an excellent student, who is starting his fourth year in college as a junior.


Ok, I think I follow now. Are you including Butts in the 2015 equation too?
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

Unread postby ace » 3 years ago

Think of Butts taking Powell's spot and then TJ and Gilvydas (no!!!) graduate- that's the three for sure.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

Unread postby ATPTourFan » 3 years ago

Ace, we're expecting big things from you on Keaney Blue for when Gilvydas graduates. I'm thinking something along the lines of Neil's annual Senior Day thread only targeted to the big Lithuanian!
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ATPTourFan wrote:Ace, we're expecting big things from you on Keaney Blue for when Gilvydas graduates. I'm thinking something along the lines of Neil's annual Senior Day thread only targeted to the big Lithuanian!


I will be inconsolable

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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

Unread postby bigappleram » 3 years ago

Biggie and Reischel would both fit the profile for potential transfers if they don't see a significant role for the future....if they had their academics in order could play immediately for their 4th year.
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Unread postby Iggy1979 » 3 years ago

Reischel could go overseas and make money after next year, too.
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Unread postby ace » 3 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote:Reischel could go overseas and make money after next year, too.


Yeah, or find a program where he can have a more prominent role, get some of those grad school credits, and set up himself up for a better opportunity to go home and play.

It seems like a long time ago that Jarelle picked URI over VCU.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch

Unread postby twisted3829 » 3 years ago

to the surprise of no one Enoch announces he's verballed to UConn
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Glad staff was wise enough to cancel his visit here.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch (UCONN Verbal)

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Good for him. It's where he wanted to play. Sounds like he was open an honest with the staff about his situation. No one got their time wasted or feelings hurt.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch (UCONN Verbal)

Unread postby rodfromcranston » 8 months ago

Hmm........He got his wish to go to UConn, but hardly played
significant minutes.
After seeing what happened to Laysard here, after the big hype,
Marfo at GW, Aflackpui at Temple, Jones at Xavier,and others who
hardly got off the bench, makes you wonder.
Chris Silva at SC, is a good player, but no world beater.
Were coaches who chased them poor evaluators of talent, or
was it the players themselves?
Other than the top 25 or so, how accurate are player ratings?
It brings me back to Bob Knight's quote,"Most of the guys who rate these players,
have never even seen them play!"
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch (UCONN Verbal)

Unread postby Iggy1979 » 8 months ago

Enoch blew up late. I'm always suspicious of those players. Looks like he would've been better off at a lower program.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch (UCONN Verbal)

Unread postby giovanni » 8 months ago

Another guy would take a serious look at. Big kid. Change of venue, situation and culture can change things for a player. Rankings, I agree, after top 25 very difficult. Not to mention is you go to a p5 school or UConn type, a top 200 guy becomes a top 100 guy. A kid could be top 125-150, he goes to URI and goes below 200. Same kid goes to Syracuse becomes #75
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch (UCONN Verbal)

Unread postby rjsuperfly66 » 8 months ago

Well, I think part of what happens (usually with bigs) is that there is often an assumed level of strength development that needs to occur for them to reach their full potential. It's not as important for guards to be strong, since their position is based more on speed and vision, but for a lot of these kids, they may be 6'11, they may be able to block shots or dunk, but what can they do with their body? Are the easily pushed around? Are they strong enough at this level to move people, since in HS they are bigger and stronger than most people they play? We often don't know, until they start matching up with guys who are as big as them, or stronger than them.

Go watch the highlight tapes on Enoch from HS... That's all you see ... You see an athletic kid without much of a shot who can run the floor, dunk, hit some layups, and block some shots. But he's simply so physically dominate to anyone else in those videos. Hopefully with continued development in a transfer year he could become the dominate player the rankings saw him as 2 years ago.
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Unread postby giovanni » 8 months ago

that's very true. But kids are recruited often on physical ability, and when you have size its something greater. Coach always believes be can develop guy and should believe that. Kids also overshoot their expectations with their abilities and choice of schools. At times its almost a crap shoot. Like Danny Ainge as said about drafting. Like a stock. May have its positives and negatives, but simply looking for a return, a year or 2 down the road. Having the opportunity of dealing with AAU and college coaches in the past, the best recruiters can not only recognize talent or potential talent, but character. I think Dan has done a great job of identifying good players, kids, citizens. Kids that will buy in and be disciplined and mature enough to do so. Transfers usually come with baggage, but the right kid, that wants to achieve comes with the fear of his last chance. That predicament can be powerful with certain kids.
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Unread postby Iggy1979 » 8 months ago

Hearing he's interested in URI and PC.
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Unread postby TruePoint » 8 months ago

The success story of Iverson and impact of Robinson should help us appeal to players of this profile in the future. I don't know if this is a guy they will target or not, but if they want to get involved for guys like this then they now have a good narrative to sell with easily identifiable examples.
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Iggy1979 wrote:Hearing he's interested in URI and PC.



Yeah but are they interested in him ? Kid did nothing every time I saw him. Although have not been impressed with the way Ollie develops players so maybe a good pickup .Have heard PC is interested in Reiuter from Virginia but have not heard this kids name mentioned. I think when he came out of high School uri was more involved in his recruitment then PC so would not surprise me if he ends up there if they want him.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch (UCONN Verbal)

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Didn't watch him this past year but when I saw him live the previous year he was not impressive at all. Nolan was a lot better.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch (UCONN Verbal)

Unread postby Billyboy78 » 8 months ago

I'd much rather have Juiston, or somebody else that can play right away. Last year with EC, Jared, Jarvis and Stan. We need a big to play with them now, not 2 years from now when they're gone.
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woodennickel1 wrote:
Iggy1979 wrote:Hearing he's interested in URI and PC.



Yeah but are they interested in him kid did nothing every time I saw him. Although have not been impressed with the way Ollie develops players so maybe a good pickup .Have heard PC is interested in Reiuter from Virginia but have not heard this kids name mentioned. I think when he came out of high School uri was more involved in his recruitment then PC so would not surprise me if he ends up there 8f they want him.


You can never tell. Look at Kuran Iverson and Scott Hazelton. Did nothing at Memphis and UConn. Came to URI and were good here.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch (UCONN Verbal)

Unread postby Seawrightspostgame » 8 months ago

I didn't watch much Uconn this year but some of the games I did watch it seemed they played Brimah?(Im not sure of the name of their center) over Enoch to their detriment.

I saw a game when Enoch came into the game and had great post moves scoring. Really changed the game for them.

Any other year he would be a good grab, but if they are taking a transfer with an eye toward an immediate impact then they have to pass on Enoch.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch (UCONN Verbal)

Unread postby Mongo » 8 months ago

Unless we have someone transfer. That would give us a chance to grab a transfer that has to sit out a year.
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Unread postby EGram » 7 months ago

Damn, I was hoping we would get a chance at this guy if we can't land someone who can contribute next year.

One thing that really strikes me is just the large number of solid looking grad and traditional transfer targets available even at F/C. I gotta think we either have a decent shot at Juiston or are in on another guy the media has yet to pick up on.
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Re: '15 CT PF Steve Enoch (UCONN Verbal)

Unread postby Iggy1979 » 1 month ago

Hearing he's trying to get out of Louisville, and who can blame him. I'd imagine NCAA would give him a waiver and two years of eligibility beginning next year.
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