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Gil was a good player and seems to be even a better person. Seawright was a nice player, like an Andre Samuel type. Or kyle Ivey Jones with some more pounds. But Hassan was better than all of them.
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I love when people say a player was only good at this and this or they say except for that he isn't very good. Don't exclude any skill. "But he is primarily remember as a great defensive player". Newsflash defense is half the game. Hass was named to the defensive All American team.

Hass scored 1300 points, had 786 rebounds and 321 blocks. His last three years he averaged 12.3 ppg.
Gil averaged 9.35 ppg with Rhody. He averaged 9.65 ppg with Rutgers.
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I think Martin deserves to not be compared to anyone right now because I think winning the games matters more than stats. But since its happening I pulled up Martin's espn profile next to Seawright's profile and Martin does not win that comparison statistically.

Seawright was good at URI.

Interesting Martin's best statistical year was his sophomore year. Supporting the injury narrative.

Interesting Seawright was more of a defender rebounder his junior year. 8.5 rebounds a game is a lot. Martin never avg'd 8 a game.

Just an interesting comparison. Martin was and has been great. Some here worship him. Seawright was very good and better in many important areas.

[EDIT] Gil averaged 4.6 rebounds his senior year. Not too good. Not on Martin/SW level. That was a great tip against Fordham.
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Gil couldn't jump over a phone book

Give me Hass all day long, the guy was a warrior
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I was a big fan of both Gil and Kaheem, but i don't think there's any comparison between them and Hassan. The stats might not show it but When Hass was healthy he played at a much higher level than both of them. The 'eye-test' if you will.
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Mr basketball out of Minnesota, seems like Dayton could be losing a good one, even though he says he will still consider Dayton
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Makai Ashton-Langford just committed to PC, ranked 36 overall by ESPN. Will be interesting to see him against Fatts in upcoming years.
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Great get for them. Cooley put together a heckuva class for this year with Watson, Ashton-Langford and Dickens.
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josephski wrote:Makai Ashton-Langford just committed to PC, ranked 36 overall by ESPN. Will be interesting to see him against Fatts in upcoming years.
I'm getting a bit concerned...Cooley seems to be crushing it on the recruiting trail.....vomit.
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It must be the new practice facility...
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All cooley has to do to sell a point guard is point at Cotton, then Dunn, then Cartwright...
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Current Options for the single roster opening for 2017 currently in the news:
Juiston 6'7" 215 JUCO
Kanter 6'10" 240 Grad Transfer
Toppin 6'9" 200 Freshman
Lane 6'6" Grad Transfer
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I would say Juiston and Kanter seem like very long shots at this point. But you never know.
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Of those 4, only Lane is visiting at this point. Looks like our best shot right now.

Would like to see Toppin get a visit....of course the other 2 also, but it doesn't look likely.
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josephski wrote:Makai Ashton-Langford just committed to PC, ranked 36 overall by ESPN. Will be interesting to see him against Fatts in upcoming years.

Id rather have Fatts
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Wasn't Langford going to UConn? And decommitted recently?

Something's not right there....Ollie's got problems....and a top recruit going from the AAC to the BE......basketball wise, the BE has it all over the AAC even with the Wichita addition.

One's thing's for sure, it's not the BB practice facility at UConn...I've seen what that looks like from the inside...it's the Taj Mahal of BB practice facilities...one half for the men, and one half for the women. $40 million to build.
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rambone 78 wrote:Wasn't Langford going to UConn? And decommitted recently?

Something's not right there....Ollie's got problems....and a top recruit going from the AAC to the BE......basketball wise, the BE has it all over the AAC even with the Wichita addition.

One's thing's for sure, it's not the BB practice facility at UConn...I've seen what that looks like from the inside...it's the Taj Mahal of BB practice facilities...one half for the men, and one half for the women. $40 million to build.
MAL decommited from UCONN after his primary recruiter got fired.
It appears his eyes were opened to the dysfunction, and things he should have seen initially were then revealed.
PC was in his initial Final 3 and with no changes to their guard depth chart, made for an easier close.

Gives PC the #14 recruiting class for 2017.
#32 MAL PG
#89 Watson PF/C
#139 Dickens C

They'll also return Drew Edwards who was a rotation player as a freshman but missed most of last season with a knee injury that got him a medical redshirt.

PC also in good position with several wing players for the class of 2018.
Primary Targets include:
David Duke, AJ Reeves, Cole Swider
Landing MAL, they would probably be happy with 1 of Duke/Reeves and Swider, although I think they would still honor their "package deal" talk from a few weeks ago.
Duke was reportedly very excited to hear that PC landed MAL, although the effect on his recruitment is unknown.

Also probably looking for a bigger transfer to sit out for next season and to play in 2018-2019 (whether SF/PF or PF/C).
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PF's and C's needed here for 2018-19...along with 3's too.

I think we could end up with one of those wings.....
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steveystuds06 wrote:
josephski wrote:Makai Ashton-Langford just committed to PC, ranked 36 overall by ESPN. Will be interesting to see him against Fatts in upcoming years.

Id rather have Fatts

Nobody should want Russell over Aston-Langford, let's try not to be completely bias here.

This kid is rated one of the best PGs in the country, something Russell doesn't even sniff.
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Rhody 15 is 100% right. MAL is higher rated than anyone we've
recruited since Lamar.
Why are we still offering more PGs than anything else?
We need scoring wings, and forwards.
Please don't replay with, "Dan knows more than us".
This is a discussion board and recruiting is a
main component of this site.
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Yes, MAL is higher rated than Fatts. Quade Green, who is going to Kentucky, is higher rated than MAL. Fatts held his own against Green. Anyway, it will be fun to watch for the next few years.
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URI graduates 5 guards next year.
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Still will have 2 PGs.
How the hell many do you need?
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Iggy1979 wrote:URI graduates 5 guards next year.
Berry's a guard?
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Langford had PC as one of his final schools before choosing UConn, obviously had built in equity with Cooley.

I like our recruiting strategy and results, I'm going to trust the process.
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With only 3 guards remaining after next year and one of them, Thompson, being a senior, there will be plenty of playing time to sell to '18 guards. Since we already have 2 that can play the point, I would think the focus would be on bigger, scoring type guards to replace EC and Jared. We should be able to get a couple of good ones.
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Rhody15 wrote:
steveystuds06 wrote:
josephski wrote:Makai Ashton-Langford just committed to PC, ranked 36 overall by ESPN. Will be interesting to see him against Fatts in upcoming years.

Id rather have Fatts

Nobody should want Russell over Aston-Langford, let's try not to be completely bias here.

This kid is rated one of the best PGs in the country, something Russell doesn't even sniff.
Be that as it may, I question the character and intelligence of any person who chooses to go to Providence College, whether it is for basketball or anything else. A typical PC student is the spoiled, sheltered, friendless child of overly religious parents who - despite the tutoring and private school education and ongoing virginity - could not get the grades or test scores to get into Notre Dame, Holy Cross, Boston College or Fordham. The size and nature of the student body makes it like a medium sized high school comprised solely of pimply hall monitors and student government types. Any basketball player that wants to deal with that for four years should have his heart out with it.
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Billyboy78 wrote:Yes, MAL is higher rated than Fatts. Quade Green, who is going to Kentucky, is higher rated than MAL. Fatts held his own against Green. Anyway, it will be fun to watch for the next few years.
If Fatts was going to Kentucky he'd be a 4 or 5 star. A lot of the rankings are subjective based on who wants who.

Rankings also tend to not mean shit. I know a 3 star forward from Staten Island who was the best defender in his conference twice and an all american by the time his senior year was over. I'm sure there are plenty of players ranked higher than Hass who didn't do dick with their college careers. These rankings are cool to talk about in April, I'll trust who our coaches wanted.
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Another loss for Dayton
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Blue Man wrote:
Billyboy78 wrote:Yes, MAL is higher rated than Fatts. Quade Green, who is going to Kentucky, is higher rated than MAL. Fatts held his own against Green. Anyway, it will be fun to watch for the next few years.
If Fatts was going to Kentucky he'd be a 4 or 5 star. A lot of the rankings are subjective based on who wants who.

Rankings also tend to not mean shit. I know a 3 star forward from Staten Island who was the best defender in his conference twice and an all american by the time his senior year was over. I'm sure there are plenty of players ranked higher than Hass who didn't do dick with their college careers. These rankings are cool to talk about in April, I'll trust who our coaches wanted.
While the recruiting rankings and ratings aren't gospel, IIRC, there is a decent correlation. Yes, some four and five star recruits will flame out, but on average, they're going to be better than three star recruits, which will be better than two stars. And of course, there are going to be outliers in the other direction too. I think Hurley's recruiting record so far is pretty good, so I do agree with you that he deserves some benefit of the doubt when it comes to who they're recruiting.
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Wait, Hassan was an All American this year?
I must've been sleeping.
Link?
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just give Fatts accomplishments the benefit of the doubt. They speak for themselves.

I wonder what Tu Halloway was rated coming out? Thats the kind of impact player I want. A kid with a chip on his shoulder that just gets to the Sweet Sixteen year after year.

I don't care about PC.
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Why can we never admit PC made a good signing lol...I'm sure if you ask Any national recruiting expert who'd they rather have, they'd take MAL over Russell any day of the week. He is a TOP 40 PLAYER. Fatts is a 3 star recruit, not nationally ranked.

As of now, there is zero comparison, and zero ways one can justify wanting Russell over Langford.
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I agree, good for them it's a good get. I am not competing with PC for 1 win a year, I want our program to play meaningful games in March as much as possible. If we beat them along the way great, if we lose like this year but play further than them in March it's a more rewarding season for me as a fan.

In terms of ranking I subscribe to a similar theory as Dan -- after the first 25-30 ranked guys it's a crap shoot on 30 to 150. Informed by who ranked them, subjective, and not the most scientific data based on limited scouting time on that many kids. We need a healthy mix of Top 100 and everyone else with an eye towards those diamond in the rough kids (a la Hassan and now Cyril) who are under-ranked.
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Rhody15 wrote:Why can we never admit PC made a good signing lol...I'm sure if you ask Any national recruiting expert who'd they rather have, they'd take MAL over Russell any day of the week. He is a TOP 40 PLAYER. Fatts is a 3 star recruit, not nationally ranked.

As of now, there is zero comparison, and zero ways one can justify wanting Russell over Langford.
I'll wait until at least December before making a judgment, since I have seen neither one play in person. Have you seen them play in person?
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rodfromcranston wrote:Wait, Hassan was an All American this year?
I must've been sleeping.
Link?
I could have sworn that he was named a defensive All American, but I can't find the link.
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RhowdyRam02 wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:Wait, Hassan was an All American this year?
I must've been sleeping.
Link?
I could have sworn that he was named a defensive All American, but I can't find the link.

Here it is......
http://www.leftydriesell.com/
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Billyboy78 wrote:
Rhody15 wrote:Why can we never admit PC made a good signing lol...I'm sure if you ask Any national recruiting expert who'd they rather have, they'd take MAL over Russell any day of the week. He is a TOP 40 PLAYER. Fatts is a 3 star recruit, not nationally ranked.

As of now, there is zero comparison, and zero ways one can justify wanting Russell over Langford.
I'll wait until at least December before making a judgment, since I have seen neither one play in person. Have you seen them play in person?
Nope, but even if I had, I'm not a recruiting expert.

As of now, I'll agree with the people who get paid to do this stuff, not posters on this message board, who will take our players over 99.9% of other recruits it seems.
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Top rated players out of high school class of 2013 - KI (247sports #31/espn #33), Robinson (247sports #68/espn #99)
URI recruits class of 2013 - EC (247sports #122), Hassan (247 sports #175)
From Fr year through this year EC and Hassan have been the best players of this group. It isn't even close.
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Blue Man wrote:
Billyboy78 wrote:Yes, MAL is higher rated than Fatts. Quade Green, who is going to Kentucky, is higher rated than MAL. Fatts held his own against Green. Anyway, it will be fun to watch for the next few years.
If Fatts was going to Kentucky he'd be a 4 or 5 star. A lot of the rankings are subjective based on who wants who.

Rankings also tend to not mean shit. I know a 3 star forward from Staten Island who was the best defender in his conference twice and an all american by the time his senior year was over. I'm sure there are plenty of players ranked higher than Hass who didn't do dick with their college careers. These rankings are cool to talk about in April, I'll trust who our coaches wanted.
Agreed. Trust in Dan, trust in the process. If he wants Fatts over Langford, then it was the right move, and we can enjoy watching this play out over the next 4 years.
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Rhody83 wrote:Top rated players out of high school class of 2013 - KI (247sports #31/espn #33), Robinson (247sports #68/espn #99)
URI recruits class of 2013 - EC (247sports #122), Hassan (247 sports #175)
From Fr year through this year EC and Hassan have been the best players of this group. It isn't even close.
Exactly....I want the guard who is undervalued and responds with MVPs and championships. This has nothing to do with PC, they have an awesome class. Russell just looks like a special player and I expect him to do huge things for us
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I just don't care/genuinely dislike PC. So idk? I legit never felt like I wanted a PC player on URI. Once they make that choice I don't care about them at all.

Are they good? Have they been good? Oh yea for sure. Im impressed by the players that rise to the occasion every year and Cooley's ability.

But their players? recruits? Just doesn't move the needle for me.
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The Lefty Dreisel team?????
They named THIRTY PLAYERS!!!!!
I love Hassan, but sorry, the Lefty Dreisel
team ain't an All-American team in defense
or bocce.
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Blue Man wrote:
Billyboy78 wrote:Yes, MAL is higher rated than Fatts. Quade Green, who is going to Kentucky, is higher rated than MAL. Fatts held his own against Green. Anyway, it will be fun to watch for the next few years.
If Fatts was going to Kentucky he'd be a 4 or 5 star
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So hypothetically speaking let's say both PC and URI were recruiting Langford and Fatts equally, and we got MAL, the highest ranked player we would have gotten since Lamar, and PC got Fatts. Would we still feel the same about Fatts? No absolutely not, we'd be jumping for joy we just got a Top 40 player over a 3 star recruit. According to Rivals, we offered Langford, so maybe Dan felt he was not interested in us / he was out of our reach and wanted a bigger program and backed off recruiting him.

I just don't see how, right now, anyone would want Fatts over Langford.
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Brady Ernst is Decommitting from Xavier (after Kanter committed). Originally committed to Iowa State.
6'9 Power Forward that can play immediately with 3 years of eligibility left.

http://247sports.com/player/brady-ernst-35019
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bostonwhaler wrote: Agreed. Trust in Dan, trust in the process. If he wants Fatts over Langford, then it was the right move, and we can enjoy watching this play out over the next 4 years.
Umm, was he recruiting him?
URI was never really associated with MAL, so I don't think it was a matter of taking one over the other.
That said, I can never blame a coach for that.
They put out feelers, but they aren't going to waste their time on a long-shot.
But I'm sure every coach would still go down the list of the top players in the country, and say "Damn, kid is going to be a good player, wish I could land him."
I think every program would be Kentucky or Duke if they could.
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