General Recruiting Discussion/Comments 2022 and before

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

ramster wrote:
rambone 78 wrote:We need to hear about upcoming visits, and things like that.

So far, nothing.

It looks like the staff has laid the groundwork for a successful recruiting haul....for 2016.

We need info on 2015's, whoever they are....
Visits for 2016 players happen in the fall generally
As I said, we are looking at a player of two who will help this fall - nothing has changed on that.

There are two parts to this recruiting:
- For this coming year - should be one player, maybe 2
- For 2016 and 2017
Our space on the roster is in great shape now accomplish both

Ramster, what Rod and I are saying is that these EYBL events are important for recruiting '16s. We're not going to get help for this coming season from those events.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Even though he'd have to sit out a year, I could get psyched
about Kyle Washington.
He's a big and mobile 4 star, top 100.
Now, before anyone bitches about his numbers, NCState is almost
totally guard oriented on offense.
Of course, so are we.
Confused about Tomasz Gielo. It looks like he's played four
full seasons for Liberty. Looks like a 6'9" McGlynn in stats. He's from Poland.

Washington played with Terrell at Brewster.

BFC · Unread post by **BFC** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Even though he'd have to sit out a year, I could get psyched
about Kyle Washington.
He's a big and mobile 4 star, top 100.
Now, before anyone bitches about his numbers, NCState is almost
totally guard oriented on offense.
Of course, so are we.
Confused about Tomasz Gielo. It looks like he's played four
full seasons for Liberty. Looks like a 6'9" McGlynn in stats. He's from Poland.

Gielo got hurt early in the season last year and received a medical redshirt.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:Even though he'd have to sit out a year, I could get psyched
about Kyle Washington.
He's a big and mobile 4 star, top 100.
Now, before anyone bitches about his numbers, NCState is almost
totally guard oriented on offense.
Of course, so are we.
Confused about Tomasz Gielo. It looks like he's played four
full seasons for Liberty. Looks like a 6'9" McGlynn in stats. He's from Poland.
Washington played with Terrell at Brewster.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:
ramster wrote:
rambone 78 wrote:We need to hear about upcoming visits, and things like that.

So far, nothing.

It looks like the staff has laid the groundwork for a successful recruiting haul....for 2016.

We need info on 2015's, whoever they are....
Visits for 2016 players happen in the fall generally
As I said, we are looking at a player of two who will help this fall - nothing has changed on that.

There are two parts to this recruiting:
- For this coming year - should be one player, maybe 2
- For 2016 and 2017
Our space on the roster is in great shape now accomplish both
Ramster, what Rod and I are saying is that these EYBL events are important for recruiting '16s. We're not going to get help for this coming season from those events.

You're right, but recruiting 2016 is still important. I honestly do not believe we are going to get the 7 foot HS player everyone so desperately wants for the class of 2015, just because I don't believe that guy exists. If we are going to address frontcourt needs for next year, it will likely be the grad transfer or JUCO route. Those recruitments are done more by back channels than by showing up somewhere and observing - there simply isn't a tournament that our coaches would show up to to watch guys that will help us next year. They should still be recruiting for 2016.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

Oh, absolutely. We should have a coach present at Tyrique Jones' games, for instance. I just think Ramster thinks we're going to find help for this year at EYBL. We're not. But, yes, it's still huge that we be there for the '16s and even '17s and '18s.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:Yes, Ramster. These events are important for recruiting....for 2016. And Iverson will be a junior. He already played 3 semesters. The only question is, will he get 3 semesters with us, or 4?

I saw Koch tweet something recently saying there would be no waiver for Iverson. I can't find the tweet now, but he seemed pretty certain about it.

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 9 years ago

Here ya go:

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

SmartyBarrett wrote:Here ya go:

The shocking thing is that the NCAA has already ruled on it.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

There ya go, thanks Smarty.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

The NCAA eliminated hardship waivers this year.
I don't think that's what URI has applied for.
This is a more technical area, in that Memphis eliminated/revoked
Iverson's scholarship, which changes the circumstances of his transfer.
I think Koch may be wrong, or talkiing to KMac, thinking all waivers have
been done away with.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 9 years ago

I was thinking that going to the big events would yield good access to people that can land a juco or transfer somewhere. Like

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 9 years ago

they aren't trying to get an extra year they are trying to make him eligible for the fall instead of the spring

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Exactly.

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 9 years ago

Right - it was an ESPN article that mentioned an extra year which is why it became a discussion topic. Could be a typo or whatever on their part. The WWL isn't exactly tuned in to URI hoops.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 9 years ago

players that transfer half way through a year really get screwed. In his case, if no waiver is granted he will only play the equivalent of 3 season...but if he transferred at the end of the season he would have had to 2 full season left of eligibility not 1.5 and would have played 4 seasons.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 9 years ago

Maybe the NCAA should change the full year sitting rule for mid-season transfers, but make it so they cannot practice with their new school until the current school year is completed.

Bos8 · Unread post by **Bos8** » 9 years ago

Borzello recently tweeted about a 6'10 kid named Willy Koussami from Kennesaw State. It appears he started originally at Auburn, transferred after his freshman year and spent 2 seasons at KSU. Seems as though he would be eligible immediately.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:
ramster wrote:
rambone 78 wrote:We need to hear about upcoming visits, and things like that.

So far, nothing.

It looks like the staff has laid the groundwork for a successful recruiting haul....for 2016.

We need info on 2015's, whoever they are....
Visits for 2016 players happen in the fall generally
As I said, we are looking at a player of two who will help this fall - nothing has changed on that.

There are two parts to this recruiting:
- For this coming year - should be one player, maybe 2
- For 2016 and 2017
Our space on the roster is in great shape now accomplish both
Ramster, what Rod and I are saying is that these EYBL events are important for recruiting '16s. We're not going to get help for this coming season from those events.

Absolutely right. EYBL is for 2016 but also important for 2017. It's amazing how quickly the top 2016 kids will verbal. My point is that it is still nice to have Seniors graduating and even some openings when going to these EYBL events.
I have been to many of these events and it is a ton of shmoozing that goes on between Coaches. All there in their shorts and t shirts - nobody dressed up at all. Lot's of talking and it's not all about the 2016 and 2017 players. They also have Peach Jam for the 16 year olds - top 16 teams. 17 year olds is for the top 24 teams that qualify.

People should relax and not get so bent out of shape because we have 3 openings now that Minnis, Butler and Reischel are gone. Nothing wrong with 3 openings - I rather like it.

Trust me a big man will be on board no later than June 1st - or I will eat my computer or light my couch on fire or both. Enjoy the ride, let Dan and staff be selective. Just like Kyle Washington just going on the market - if we had already bought the car we might have missed out on better cars. Still a ton of movement of players.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

TruePoint wrote:
Billyboy78 wrote:
ramster wrote:
Visits for 2016 players happen in the fall generally
As I said, we are looking at a player of two who will help this fall - nothing has changed on that.

There are two parts to this recruiting:
- For this coming year - should be one player, maybe 2
- For 2016 and 2017
Our space on the roster is in great shape now accomplish both
Ramster, what Rod and I are saying is that these EYBL events are important for recruiting '16s. We're not going to get help for this coming season from those events.
You're right, but recruiting 2016 is still important. I honestly do not believe we are going to get the 7 foot HS player everyone so desperately wants for the class of 2015, just because I don't believe that guy exists. If we are going to address frontcourt needs for next year, it will likely be the grad transfer or JUCO route. Those recruitments are done more by back channels than by showing up somewhere and observing - there simply isn't a tournament that our coaches would show up to to watch guys that will help us next year. They should still be recruiting for 2016.

And the biggest back door channel is the Coaches talking to one another at these events. These events are like Coaches conventions - not only about the 2016 and 2017 players. Some recruiting of Assistant Coaches can take place too. Horse trading goes on.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

Jeff Borzello
Over 30 schools have contacted Kennesaw St. transfer Willy Kouassi -- including Wichita St., Arkansas, K-State, URI. 6-10, A-Sun DPOY.
about 2 hours ago

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

bressler3south wrote:Jeff Borzello
Over 30 schools have contacted Kennesaw St. transfer Willy Kouassi -- including Wichita St., Arkansas, K-State, URI. 6-10, A-Sun DPOY.
about 2 hours ago

6'10" center, defensive player of the year in his conference. And I don't even care what conference it is, if he
is 6'10" and can play some defense, that's all we need. I don't care if he scores a single point.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Our biggest problem with our roster is the same as our biggest advantage in a situation like this: we have a TON of playing time to offer a guy like Kouassi. Arkansas, Wichita St. and K-State are all good basketball programs, so I would get the appeal for the kid. On the other hand, I don't know the state of their rosters, but I'd have to think they currently have more frontcourt depth than we do.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

There we go, a tweet about us being involved for a 6'10" guy! Everybody can back off the ledge now!

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 9 years ago

Get him! We have all he could ever want. Good to know we have contacted him. Arkansas has lost their two best frontcourt players, but still have a couple bigs on the roster, Kansas State has three three bigs coming in, Wichita St has a couple 6'8
guys coming in and they already have two big guys.
Arkansas may want him to come in and start just like we do.
We'll see

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Can we get real? ONE tweet and we're supposed to "back off the edge". like we've giot
this guy.
Please. 30 schools contacting him.
Even Kentucky is looking at jucos and 5th year players.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 9 years ago

I think it would be too good to be true, a 6'10 defensive guy and then.. then .. add in the transfer from NC state. Bam! Height!

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Can we get real? ONE tweet and we're supposed to "back off the edge". like we've giot
this guy.
Please. 30 schools contacting him.
Even Kentucky is looking at jucos and 5th year players.

Yes, I was joking, based on some people on here who seem to think that unless there is a tweet about us being involved with somebody then absolutely nothing is happening.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Ah! Sorry, Adam.
Sarcasm sometimes gets lost in writing.
Besides, around here, you never know.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Ah! Sorry, Adam.
Sarcasm sometimes gets lost in writing.
Besides, around here, you never know.

Haha, totally understand. No big deal.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

And all of a sudden, three '16 bigs offered today!

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Looks like the staff is going "all in" on 2016's.

The fall signing period will be the time to get them. Most of the best ones will sign then.....

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 9 years ago

We need a symbol for sarcasm. This comes up alot.

Andrew · Unread post by **Andrew** » 9 years ago

ramfan85 wrote:We need a symbol for sarcasm. This comes up alot.

I've seen people use "/s" after their message, if that helps.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Man, everybody, including us in a big way, are offering a ton of 2016's.

Lots of good guards, PG's especially, and big men to be had.

It's beginning to look like we will be filling a couple of 2015 openings with 5th year players, and no 4 year guys.

We very well could have 4 or 5 open spots for 2016.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:Man, everybody, including us in a big way, are offering a ton of 2016's.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Tons of weekend visits, but not one here:
http://zagsblog.com/articles/recruiting ... ore-133304

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 9 years ago

I support that method, Andrew. Also, your avatar makes me laugh every time I see it. Will be one of my favorite enduring images from this past year

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 9 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:Man, everybody, including us in a big way, are offering a ton of 2016's.

Lots of good guards, PG's especially, and big men to be had.

It's beginning to look like we will be filling a couple of 2015 openings with 5th year players, and no 4 year guys.

We very well could have 4 or 5 open spots for 2016.

This is much more desirable for me than taking a body for 15 just because the ship is open. We need to treat scholarships like gold.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

For sure.
We are in a position to be selective - May was always a time during the Barren years that we just filled up the roster
If we had JR, Biggie and Matt still in those 3 spots would any of us feel better? We know their playing time next year would be limited - they would be further down the bench than they were this year.

So having 3 slots open is awesome. Gives the staff flexibility while out on the recruiting trail - no future juggling of the roster needed - we just flat out have 3 openings.

Anyone know if Plunkett takes up a scholarship or not? I would assume not - but sometimes they are awarded to walk-ons.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Let's not get silly with Plunkett. Our
roster isn't that strong, by any means.
Him getting a scholarship means the white flag went up for 2015
recruiting.
We still need some live bodies up front.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Let's not get silly with Plunkett. Our
roster isn't that strong, by any means.
Him getting a scholarship means the white flag went up for 2015
recruiting.
We still need some live bodies up front.

I'm not trying to be silly, just wondering, sometimes Walk Ons get schollies from their Coaches, sometimes as simply a reward for their dedication.
To me it does not matter because the 11,12,13,14 guys are not going to play anyway, but it does matter if there is another on the Roster for a Schollie besides those for Four, Iffy and Watson. As I said, I doubt it, but want to confirm.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 9 years ago

I'd feel better if Biggie was still here at this point, but just for depth behind Jarvis, and I could change my mind depending on if we bring in anyone else who can play next year.

As of now I highly, highly doubt Plunkett has been given a scholarship, but with him going into his senior year, depending on how things shake out the next couple months I could see him being placed on scholarship right before the fall semester.

reckless jake · Unread post by **reckless jake** » 9 years ago

We need an inside player for 2015 season. At least one. Someone who can play solid minutes without a drop off in talent level. Somebody taller than 6'8. Not a 10,11,12 guy down the bench. It's a glaring need for this upcoming season and should be the #1 priority for our ciaching staff.

reckless jake · Unread post by **reckless jake** » 9 years ago

Denton Koon, a 6'8 forward transferring from Princeton, is scheduled to visit URI this weekend per Jeff Borzello. He suffered a torn MCL back on Oct 30th, 2014

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote:I'd feel better if Biggie was still here at this point, but just for depth behind Jarvis, and I could change my mind depending on if we bring in anyone else who can play next year.

As of now I highly, highly doubt Plunkett has been given a scholarship, but with him going into his senior year, depending on how things shake out the next couple months I could see him being placed on scholarship right before the fall semester.

I highly doubt it too but does anybody know for sure about Plunkett?

Da_Process_Survivor · Unread post by **Da_Process_Survivor** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Our roster isn't that strong, by any means.

lol, what? just quit while you're behind.

regarding low level players/walk ons getting a scholarship. you need those players for 12,13,14 on the bench. Also in some cases its done as a nice gesture to the walk on for the years of sacrifice and hard work they put in knowing they wont see the floor.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Yeah, whatever.

reckless jake · Unread post by **reckless jake** » 9 years ago

Reality check, our roster isn't that strong. We have one (1) legitimate inside post player, a 6'7 PF. That's it. Outside of 6'6 Earl Watson and Iffy ( if you count them) we've got no proven inside game at all. Iverson is a wing player and Butts is a freshman.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

So a roster that won 23 games and returns basically everyone isnt that strong? Yes we need a big man, badly!!!...but we are 1 role player away from having a very good team. Geez you would think its the 2011-12 roster.

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