'13 Turkey SF - Ilker Er (Maine)

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 11 years ago

You think his coach would be misinformed? I suppose it is possible, maybe because of the language thing. But it seems just as likely it is because the kid is a little below the radar. Of the four main services that I use (247, ESPN, Rivals and Scout), only Rivals acknowledges that there is such a person.

Rhody Guy · Unread post by **Rhody Guy** » 11 years ago

Sounds an awful lot like a nik type player.

BFC · Unread post by **BFC** » 11 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:
BFC wrote:He's 6-7, shoots 44% from 3 and was the leading scorer on a loaded prep school team yet there's nothing on him. Makes me wonder if there were eligibility concerns, 8 games in Turkey for who?
Where did you find stats on him, BFC? I can't find any.

The third post in the thread has a jacksonville.com link which lists his region's stats leaders. I won't re-post the link because it includes a big picture of another player which caused some confusion already.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 11 years ago

This seems like the type of player I would expect Bobby to be signing at this point. Hey, Dan has forgotten more about evaluating talent than I know...this just doesn't seem to fit his MO. On second thought this is similar to the Big O; so what do I know. Lets hope he turns out to be a nice 3 point sniper who keeps defenses honest...Josh King.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

Big O was rated 3 stars by ESPN, and there was plenty of information on him.
This guy is The Invisible Man.
King was a big kid, who got 14 rebounds against Texas one game.
This kid is 195lbs.
I hope he turns out to be a nice surprise, but I just don't see how you go from
Williams, a 2 time juco AA, and NYC POY Severe, and Pollard, to this guy.
As I said, getting a successor/backup to Munford was the plan.
I'm sure Dan and Preston know what they're doing, but on the surface, this is an odd one.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 11 years ago

When I compared this to the Big O, I was referring to the surprise element. Yes, he was on the national recruiting radar. I should have been more specific.

I agree, Dan has momentum...nothing but national praise and an already fantastic class coming in. He should not have to sign the invisible man.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 11 years ago

Welcome aboard, Ilker!!

6'7" shooter, really don't see anything not to like here. DH has said repeatedly that he will not waste a scholarship just to fill spots, and I'll definitely trust his judgment in finding under-the-rader players. Looking forward to seeing him in a URI uniform!

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 11 years ago

Chris DiSano ‏@CDiSano44 14m

Reached via cell, ACD coach @rmacds confirmed earlier tweet, 6-6 SG Ilker Er gave verbal to URI. Considered Southern Cal, Georgia & Auburn.

Bill Koch ‏@BillKoch25 7m

Morgan -- 'He can shoot it. He's got great range. He had one game where he had nine 3s this year.'

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 11 years ago

It's pretty simple: this is the best player Hurley could get at this point. Severe and Williams wouldn't commit. One issue is recruits look at the roster and see 5 guards and only one will be a senior. These kids want to play immediately.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 11 years ago

He had some decent schools after him. Hey, not all 13 scholarship players are going to play. Some will sit and watch and learn. This kid will probaly be one of those. Let's see what a year with this coaching staff will produce with him. I wonder if he even might be a redshirt if he has a lot to learn. We've been told he can shoot. We don't know anything about the other parts of his game

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 11 years ago

need someone to stretch the defense. DH always liked Nik's game it seemed, just not the rest of the package. He mentioned in an interview at end of year he wished he had another year with Nik to develop his game. Maybe this kid is Nik 2.0 without the tude. Similarities on paper, though this kid looked much thicker.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 11 years ago

If we're going to keep the comparisons to Nik going (which given what we know seems legitimate), remember Nik's freshman year? Barely played, but came into the Ok St. game at Mohegan and hit a huge 3 that helped push us to victory. Then had a fantastic sophomore year.

ram1980 · Unread post by **ram1980** » 11 years ago

A pure shooter seems to be a huge need. If he can fill it up for a solid 15-20 minutes of PT this is a good thing

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 11 years ago

Arlington Day is Year in - Year Out a good strong Program in Florida. I've seen Rex Morgan Coach this team and he always brings in good players and runs a strong program..
Er went 75-170 for 44.1% this year - he took the 2nd most 3 pointers in Jacksonville HS BBall.
ACD played in the prestigious City of Palms Tournament in Ft Myers in December.
ACD Played the powerful Huntington Prep from West Virginia - led by the #1 ESPN 5-star Player Andrew Wiggins. Huntington also has 3 four-star players in Moses Kinsley going to Arkansas ranked 46th ESPN and Xavier Rathan-Mays who is going to Florida State ranked 40th ESPN and Dominic Woodson going to Baylor ranked #88 ESPN.
Wiggins 20 pts 9 rebs in 24 min
Woodson 2 pts in 5 min
Kingsley 26 pts 13 rebs in 26 min
Rathan-Mays 13 pts 5 assists in 32 min

Ilker Er 16 points 6-10 fg, 4-8 on 3 pointers, 5 rebounds in 15 min. Started for ACD and tied for most points at 16. Shows he can get his shot off and play with the best Prep Team in the Country

He also played against the Kiski school from Florida in an easy win in the City of Palms with 4-8 fg, 4 rebounds, 3 assists in 24 min.

Judging from how he did in a big time National Holiday Tournament he might not be as under the radar as thought.

Good pick up by Hurley, especially if Preston was high on him to begin with. Clearly can shoot the 3 ball.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

Position wise, he's a SF. You have Reischel and Martin there.
Er looks like he could be a situational player, zone buster type.
Reischel is our Swiss Army Knife player, who does a little of everything, and
Martin is our best frontcourt prospect since Lamar.
Time will tell.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 11 years ago

Sounds promising. But Rod is right, I don't see a replacement in training for X on the roster, unless Dan thinks Reischel or Er can play the 2.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 11 years ago

maybe starting at the 2G is something Dan wants to shop/sell to 2014 guys.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

Jared Terrel and EC Matthews, could form the best backcourt in modern URI history.
Imagine two 6'4" guards who can do it all!
Kid is build like Godzilla and can shoot, pass and drive.
2014 is a loaded class.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 11 years ago

For what its worth Rivals has Reischel listed as a 2.

rhodyfan3 · Unread post by **rhodyfan3** » 11 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Jared Terrel and EC Matthews, could form the best backcourt in modern URI history.
Imagine two 6'4" guards who can do it all!
Kid is build like Godzilla and can shoot, pass and drive.
2014 is a loaded class.

Do we have a legitimate shot at Terrell? He has so many big time schools looking at him. We would need to prove early next year we are a contender for us to have a chance I think.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

When I pooh poohed us getting Terrell, I got an immediate
message saying, "Have faith in your coaches, who are working hard at it",
further saying that we had a shot at getting Terrell.
So, I believe we do.
People in the know, really do read this board.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 11 years ago

And looking forward, it's going to be a lot easier to show and explain to a '14 recruit what his role could be on this team. Players want to know that there are minutes for them. A guy like Severe has been clear about that. With at least 6 and possibly up to 8 new players being worked in this upcoming season, it becomes more difficult to make that case. When a guy like Munford graduates, it's easy to talk to a player about being his replacement.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 11 years ago

Does anybody have any personal information about Er? How old is he? Does he speak English? Is he a good student?....stuff like that?

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 11 years ago

It looks like he played some games for a junior team in Turkey as recently as the 11-12 season, which should not be a problem. Reischel played on a German national team. His birthday seems to be 9/27/94, so 19 in the beginning of his freshman year.

BFC · Unread post by **BFC** » 11 years ago

Bill Koch‏@BillKoch253h
Morgan on Er -- 'He does all the things a kid should do. He's a kid that will listen, so he's going to get better.' #URI #Rams #GoRhody

Bill Koch‏@BillKoch253h
Morgan -- 'If he'd come here his junior year he could have named any place he'd want to go. I think he's got that much potential.' #GoRhody

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

Sounds good. Hope he's as good as Morgan thinks he is.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 11 years ago

I'll take any player who hits the 3 consistently, even if he turns out to be a siutational player. Got to trust the coach on this one.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 11 years ago

Just a couple of years ago, the 12th and 13th players on the team were Vedder and Harris. Auburn and Georgia weren't offering them. This is an upgrade. We have to be realistic here -- even with Hurley, not every recruit is going to be 3 or 4 star.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 11 years ago

I don't get the negativity. What are we, Kentucky? We only take the most hyped players in the country? We may win some battles for guys like Matthews and Martin, but we can't expect to build our roster exclusively that way. Sometimes we're going to have find guys that are undervalued.

Considering most of us here haven't seen this kid play at all, you guys can only be going by the fact that the services missed him. But the coaches don't go by the services - those are for fans. They have seen him play, and thought he was worthy of a scholarship. A big wing that can shoot it seems like a nice thing to have on your roster. I'll take that.

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 11 years ago

This kid could be a prime candidate for a red shirt since I expect any playing time next year to be minimal.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

Um, Martin and Matthews were GREATLY undervalued.
It's why we got them.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 11 years ago

I don't think red shirt is a possibility at all.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 11 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Um, Martin and Matthews were GREATLY undervalued.
It's why we got them.

Yes, at the time we got them. But they were still at least on the radar, and they're very highly rated compared to the players we've brought in for the last decade or so. All I'm saying is the only basis you could possibly have for questioning this offer is that he isn't rated by the recruiting services, and I don't think that is very reliable because they miss on kids. Especially ones that come from other countries and not out of the traditional pipelines.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

"Half of McDonald's All American's are not very good "- Jim Boehiem

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 11 years ago

Right. So are you agreeing with me, or disagreeing with me? I can't tell anymore.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 11 years ago

Another article, not sure if there's anything new here...
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports. ... d/related/

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

I don't think the ratings are the be all end all.
If Matthews had declared for a Big Ten school, he'd have been rated much higher. Same for Martin.
As soon as Kentan Facey declared for UConn he rose in the rankings.
As for foreign players, there's plenty of information out there, because half the NBA
first round of the draft seems to be Euros, or South Americans.
My guess is, this Er kid passed the eye test, because they scouted him twice that I
know of.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 11 years ago

I like this signing a lot. We struggled this year with our shooting. This kid brings shooting ability with a 44% three point percentage, plus with his height he can get the three off. Georgia and Auburn both had scholarships out to him. Could end up being a very good "under the radar" type of signing.

rhodyrob · Unread post by **rhodyrob** » 11 years ago

Rod
I realize that Williams is a 2 time AA at CCRI. I hope you realize that CCRI is a D2 Juco program and that California ans Florida are not part of the national Juco program. Williams is a very good player but definately not at the level that Rhody hopes to be invoved with.. Yes, I have seen him play often.Look at CCRI's roster and tell me that many kids from RI are on the level of the A10. I believe they were defeated by a NE prep school this year. Coach Harris does a great job but they and Williams are not a top JUCO progam. Look at the roster of Holtons team and how many DI NCAA players they have. The top teams in D1 are loaded and Cali and FL. have recruits that are A 10 or above.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

So, you can't possibly have a D-1 player on a lower ranked program?
Munford wasn't from a California or Florida juco program.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 11 years ago

I'm much more excited about Ilker than I would be for the Williams kid from CCRI.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

Based on what, exactly? One is pretty well known, and the other
is as well known as The Unknown Soldier.
Besides, Williams wouldn't have tied up four years.
Williams didn't come here because he didn't want to sit for a year, not because
he was deficient as a player.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 11 years ago

I think the upside is higher.

rhodyrob · Unread post by **rhodyrob** » 11 years ago

I realize that Munford is not from a FL. or cali school but he was from a D1 Juco program. You can get a top player from a lower level program but it does happen very seldom.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 11 years ago

Again I ask you, TP, based on what?
A tweet from Rex Morgan? Ten seconds on film? What?
There are John Does in the city morgue with more
information on them than Er, so what is your
great optimism based on? Just asking.

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 11 years ago

Maybe TP trusts in Hurley ?

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 11 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote:Just a couple of years ago, the 12th and 13th players on the team were Vedder and Harris. Auburn and Georgia weren't offering them. This is an upgrade. We have to be realistic here -- even with Hurley, not every recruit is going to be 3 or 4 star.

Exactly Iggy...there is absolutely a place for a role player like this on a good team.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 11 years ago

Truthfully? Because I think I know what William's ceiling is, and I don't think that makes us remarkably better. I don't know anything about Ilker, except that he is a 6'7" wing that can shoot and Hurley thinks he can play, and I can see how that could make us better. I didn't say that I think Ilker is better than Williams, because I have no idea. But I'm more excited about Ilker. Maybe that is a parallel to the popularity of the backup-QB, IDK. But nothing would really excite me about Williams.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 11 years ago

Hold on, people!

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 11 years ago

Whaaaat? Haha. This should be fun.

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