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THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:13 pm
by luke
The line has opened at URI - 7 1/2 . That seems like almost a gimme. Take the rams and the points on this one
before it goes up to 10 or more where it should really be. URI should cruise barring an uncharacteristically bad
performance which i don't see coming.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:53 pm
by adam914
Very interesting line. I wonder what they are seeing that we aren't. Or if they are just dead wrong. I feel like we match up really really well with these guys and should be able to handle them easily. Granted road conference games are always tough, but I really like our chances here.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:03 pm
by Rhodymob05
They were dead wrong in D.C

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:26 pm
by reef
Wow I am shocked at this seems very low

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:35 pm
by ramster
RPI forecast has URI by 9.4 points with an 80% chance of winning the game

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:24 pm
by reef
Expect the line to go higher in the morning???

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:24 pm
by luke
The line is now up to URI - 81/2 to - 9. could go higher. I would expect it to go to - 10. We will see.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:03 am
by ramster

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:51 am
by reef
Nice good times indeed for Rhody hoops

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:15 pm
by luke
I can't believe I am seeing lines of - 61/2 for this game . Did URI suspend all of its scholarship players for this game or what ?
Has Vegas seen these two teams ?

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:20 pm
by Shaolin Swat
It always makes me very nervous when Vegas has these lines that seem way too good to be true.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:00 pm
by adam914
Shaolin Swat wrote:It always makes me very nervous when Vegas has these lines that seem way too good to be true.
Same here, hoping they just end up looking dumb on this one.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:01 pm
by URIGONZO
Line opened at 9 and is now down to 7, and 6.5. Usually means tons of money came in on the Billikens.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:24 pm
by URI'21
Betting my life savings on this one.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:38 pm
by Rhody74
I'm watching the replay of SLU and Richmond. The Billikens remind me of the Rams of Dan's first year here.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:50 pm
by Rhodymob05
Rhody74 wrote:I'm watching the replay of SLU and Richmond. The Billikens remind me of the Rams of Dan's first year here.
I'm taking out a loan to put money down then.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:54 pm
by Blue Man
Normally a trap Vegas line would scare me.

I’m hammering this and assuming Vegas thinks every team in the A10 sucks.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:02 pm
by steviep123
Rhody74 wrote:I'm watching the replay of SLU and Richmond. The Billikens remind me of the Rams of Dan's first year here.
I think URI upset SLU at SLU in Hurley's first year. SLU won the A10 and was a tourney team. So, roles could reverse and there could be payback. Hopefully Dan and boys take care of business.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:27 pm
by TruePoint
Rhodymob05 wrote:
Rhody74 wrote:I'm watching the replay of SLU and Richmond. The Billikens remind me of the Rams of Dan's first year here.
I'm taking out a loan to put money down then.
Word I would buy this game on margin, too.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:13 pm
by reef
Very strange I saw 9 last night and now 6.5 don't like a big movement like that. I will just put URI in teasers and money line parlays

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:59 pm
by Blue Man
I looked into Hurley vs. St Louis just to see if there was some kind of awful history like we have @ Hawk Hill or something of the like. That would kind of explain the line - just to make sure I didn't feel like an idiot for hammering it.

Welp, Dan is 5-1 against St Louis, 3-0 in their building.

The 1 loss came at the Ryan Center by 1 in 2014. Jordair Jett dropped 31 and Xavier Munford gave us a 1 point lead with 17 seconds left. That was EC/Hass sophomore year and we were depending on guys like Biggie Minnis, Onyekaba, and Reichel to give us minutes.

On the road we beat them by 2 in OT Dan's first season, by 12, and last year by 34. The other home victories for us were by 13, 14, and 28 points.

Dan's average margin of victory overall against SLU is 14.6, his average margin of victory @ SLU is 16.

Dan only faced Travis Ford once and that was last years game where we blew them out at the Ryan Center by 28.

I cannot wrap my head around what Vegas is possibly thinking with this line. I honestly may double my bet the more I look into this...

Their RPI is 198 with an SOS at 212.

BLOWN OUT by PC and Butler (27 and 30 points). Best win is by 6 at home to a down VT team (86th overall). Lost at home against #267 Detroit.

0-2 vs top 50. 1-1 vs 50-100. 2-4 vs 101-100. 4-1 vs 201+.

Seriously... I really cannot fathom what is going on here. They're hobbled and we may be without our 3rd leading scorer. Not to downplay Stan or anything of the like, but it's actually bothering me why the line is so low.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:03 pm
by ATPTourFan
Please consider sharing a few bucks of your winnings on KeaneyBlue :)

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:08 pm
by TruePoint
Someone get Vegas on the horn and demand answers! I was actually supposed to be in Vegas for work today but the meeting was moved last minute; it's actually probably a good thing I'm not there, because I'd have put up all the cash I have access to on this line and skipped my flight out and probably would have had to take a red eye. Nightmare scenario.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:14 pm
by reef
Blue Man knows how to handicap a ball game !!!

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:15 pm
by reef
TP were you supposed to be at the CES conference?? That is in Vegas this week

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:35 pm
by TruePoint
reef - not directly, but we were going to meet a client and they suggested Vegas. I hadn't thought about the CES conference, but they are tech guys so totally possible that is why they're there.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:47 pm
by reef
Yeah for real they jack up the prices for the rooms during CES the casinos are like ghost towns during the day as everyone is at the conference

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:48 pm
by ramster
Guess I'll be the word of warning on this one...............
- I don't care much to look at recent history to decide who might or might not beat the point spread
- Travis Ford only in 2nd year, most all these players are new - they know almost nothing of any history, win streaks, losing streaks
- I don't think looking past SLU to Bonnies has anything to do with it. Bonnies lost 2, these guys play games one at a time - DH Coached teams do not let up no matter how Journalists might want to word it
- Travis Ford is a good head coach in my opinion - I know everyone doesn't share that
- My guess is 9,000 or more at this game tonight - good size crowd
- I saw Hasahn French in AAU. He is strong as can be. He is a beast, tough as nails and a mean streak in him. He will be a handful for our big men. He was ranked #90 ESPN and now has half a season under his belt. He is a guy we are not likely to like too much over the next 4 years - tough kid
- Jordan Goodwin was ranked #55 ESPN. Excellent player. My guess is Goodwin and Robinson go head to head or maybe EC takes on Goodwin. He is a player. Goes hard all the time.
- 2 Players in ESPN Top 100 Class of 2017 signed to the A10 and they both went to Saint Louis - no small feat
- DJ Foreman could very well have played himself into the starting line up after last game. He played 2 years at Rutgers. 6'8" 240 lbs - another tough big man
- This team has been hurt with "unnamed" players not playing due to S2. They have a small roster but that can be dangerous. A tough group of players, joined together under adversity - adversity has a way of bringing guys together, playing with an edge, like a caged animal.........
- This is a different team in St Louis then we are used to - a team on the rise. Already signed 6'8 260 lb #67 ESPN Ranked Carte'Are Gordon Class of 2018 - I know he isn't playing this year but this program is on the move - this is another example
- I look for SLU to be Top 3 in the Conference next season, and could make noise in the A10 Tournament

Personally I would not touch this game.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:55 pm
by theblueram
How many minutes til we cover?

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:57 pm
by reef
Late money on URI back to 7.5

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:14 pm
by Rhody74
ramster wrote: - My guess is 9,000 or more at this game tonight - good size crowd

Personally I would not touch this game.
Looks more like 900 at this game.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:05 pm
by ramster
Rhody74 wrote:
ramster wrote: - My guess is 9,000 or more at this game tonight - good size crowd

Personally I would not touch this game.
Looks more like 900 at this game.
5,179 was the attendance. 6pm start time resulted in quite a few people arriving late. Normally SLU starts their games at 7pm. A 6pm start would hurt our attendance as well
Still surprised URI did not draw better than George Mason did on Saturday.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:58 pm
by Blue Man
I’ll take the push...but god damnit EC that free throw would’ve been nice.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:37 am
by reef
Yeah be real fortunate with that result

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:25 am
by ramster
ramster wrote:
Rhody74 wrote:
ramster wrote: - My guess is 9,000 or more at this game tonight - good size crowd

Personally I would not touch this game.
Looks more like 900 at this game.
5,179 was the attendance. 6pm start time resulted in quite a few people arriving late. Normally SLU starts their games at 7pm. A 6pm start would hurt our attendance as well
Still surprised URI did not draw better than George Mason did on Saturday.
Reading the SLU Board they are not happy with 6pm Game Times set for TV


Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:40 am
by ATPTourFan
Awww. Poor Central time zone. East Coast!!!!!!

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:41 pm
by steviep123
Man, that last free throw covered the spread....imagine if it was a miss?

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:15 pm
by ramster
steviep123 wrote:Man, that last free throw covered the spread....imagine if it was a miss?
Covered the spread for some but the spread was as high as 9, then 7.5 before the game. You get the spread at the time you place the bet. It does not change to plants of people lost taking URI.

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:39 pm
by Ramulous
I hope no one lost their mortgage money......the oddsmakers seem to know their stuff....

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:12 pm
by NYGFan_Section208
ATPTourFan wrote:Awww. Poor Central time zone. East Coast!!!!!!
what?...there's another coast?

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:52 am
by reef
There was a time frame where URI was -6.5 those that took that had a winner

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:23 am
by ramster
reef wrote:There was a time frame where URI was -6.5 those that took that had a winner
There was, but it was not too long, plus at vegasinsider I never saw all of the houses go down to the 6 1/2 together. Some remained at 7 and some at 7 1/2. Game started at 9
Was at 7 1/2 at game time, right?

Re: THE EARLY LINE URI VS ST .LOUIS

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:59 am
by RhodyKyle
ramster wrote:
reef wrote:There was a time frame where URI was -6.5 those that took that had a winner
There was, but it was not too long, plus at vegasinsider I never saw all of the houses go down to the 6 1/2 together. Some remained at 7 and some at 7 1/2. Game started at 9
Was at 7 1/2 at game time, right?
I guess I was very fortunate! I was able to get them at 6.5 so, while sweating it out, I cashed a winner. Good teams win - great teams cover.