Re: Hampton Univ and A-10 talked about membership?
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:56 pm
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UCONN would have regional rights and isn’t letting Rhody or UMass in any league they are in. They wont even play Rhody.rhodylaw wrote:I wouldnt mind a move to the AAC if Umass came too. that would fix the main problem with the AAC which is a lack of good rivalries. It has the potential to be a good basketball conference each year with some good programs but no rivalry games that make for good TV. UConn, URI, Umass have a historic hatred of each other that would make that conference better.
Calhoun wouldn't play URI. With their recent troubled history I am willing to bet this could change. Their fans have even talked about it on their message board.Rhody83 wrote:UCONN would have regional rights and isn’t letting Rhody or UMass in any league they are in. They wont even play Rhody.rhodylaw wrote:I wouldnt mind a move to the AAC if Umass came too. that would fix the main problem with the AAC which is a lack of good rivalries. It has the potential to be a good basketball conference each year with some good programs but no rivalry games that make for good TV. UConn, URI, Umass have a historic hatred of each other that would make that conference better.
NYGFan_Section208 wrote:How long can you root against a team, even when it's to your own detriment?ramfan85 wrote:ramster wrote:
Geographically agree it did not make sense to have URIand PC. But with that argument it didn’t make sense to offer UCONN and Holy Cross.
Agree URI AD would have done the same with PC - most likely, but we don’t know since it didn’t happen.
But what the generations of fans and students don’t know is the hate Gavitt had for URI. Mike Tranghese did whatever Gavitt said. Gavitt never got over being spurned by Sly Williams - never.
So when BillyBoy, Rhode Island, myself and others get questioned as to why we don’t root for PC because it would help our RPI and help our state this type of history review might help them understand. Of course too “you had to be there”.
Well said. Couldn't agree more.
I remember reading an article in the journal at the time the schools were talking about forming a new league where our AD said something like(not an exact quote) "We'll leave it up to Dave." So much for that.
I, also, will never cheer for pc.
When the main guy responsible has been gone for 5+ years?
Time to let it go and just be satisfied to be "better"?
This line of thinking is so wrong and backwards. Conferences historically have been loaded with multiple teams from the same states and neighboring states. The traditional Pac10 had four teams from California and two each from Washington, Oregon and Arizona. North Carolina has four teams in the ACC, and it always has - at its founding in 1953 it was just those four schools plus Virgina, Maryland and two South Carolina schools (Clemson and South Carolina). These states are geographically contiguous. The traditional Big Ten had two schools each in Michigan, Indiana and Illinois, plus schools from the contiguous states of Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa. The Big Twelve traditional had four Texas schools along with two from Oklahoma and two from Kansas, plus four others from contiguous states. The SEC has consisted of two schools from Alabama and Mississippi, along with schools from all of the neighboring states in that part of the country.ramster wrote:Geographically agree it did not make sense to have URIand PC. But with that argument it didn’t make sense to offer UCONN and Holy Cross either.woodennickel1 wrote:Once again I am not denying Gavitt hated uri . But it also made no sense to have two schools from a small state when trying to start a new confrence It would have been doomed from the start.Billyboy78 wrote:Holy Cross had a good program in 1978. So did UConn. URI was the best team in New England, better than any of those teams that were invited. Gavitt never got over Sly, and then URI beats PC by 40 some points. He hated URI. He kept them out because he hated URI. He wanted to send them back to mediocrity. He succeeded.
That being said yes he is going to protect his teams interest just like Villanova did not want Temple or St Joes in or Xavier does not want Dayton. Uri would have done the same thing weather you want to admit it or not.
Agree URI AD would have done the same with PC - most likely, but we don’t know since it didn’t happen.
But what the generations of younger fans and students don’t know is the hate Gavitt had for URI. Mike Tranghese did whatever Gavitt said. Gavitt never got over being spurned by Sly Williams - never.
So when BillyBoy, Rhode Island Red, myself and others get questioned as to why we don’t root for PC because it would help our RPI and help our State, this type of history review might help them understand. Of course also “you had to be there”.
This harkens back to the days where travel/distance/rivalries were all positive considerations. Now teams take charter jets; and are protective of media markets. BIG difference with financial implications. Marketing over rivalries.....sadly.TruePoint wrote:This line of thinking is so wrong and backwards. Conferences historically have been loaded with multiple teams from the same states and neighboring states. The traditional Pac10 had four teams from California and two each from Washington, Oregon and Arizona. North Carolina has four teams in the ACC, and it always has - at its founding in 1953 it was just those four schools plus Virgina, Maryland and two South Carolina schools (Clemson and South Carolina). These states are geographically contiguous. The traditional Big Ten had two schools each in Michigan, Indiana and Illinois, plus schools from the contiguous states of Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa. The Big Twelve traditional had four Texas schools along with two from Oklahoma and two from Kansas, plus four others from contiguous states. The SEC has consisted of two schools from Alabama and Mississippi, along with schools from all of the neighboring states in that part of the country.ramster wrote:Geographically agree it did not make sense to have URIand PC. But with that argument it didn’t make sense to offer UCONN and Holy Cross either.woodennickel1 wrote:
Once again I am not denying Gavitt hated uri . But it also made no sense to have two schools from a small state when trying to start a new confrence It would have been doomed from the start.
That being said yes he is going to protect his teams interest just like Villanova did not want Temple or St Joes in or Xavier does not want Dayton. Uri would have done the same thing weather you want to admit it or not.
Agree URI AD would have done the same with PC - most likely, but we don’t know since it didn’t happen.
But what the generations of younger fans and students don’t know is the hate Gavitt had for URI. Mike Tranghese did whatever Gavitt said. Gavitt never got over being spurned by Sly Williams - never.
So when BillyBoy, Rhode Island Red, myself and others get questioned as to why we don’t root for PC because it would help our RPI and help our State, this type of history review might help them understand. Of course also “you had to be there”.
Having schools geographically close enough that the footprint of the fan bases overlap has always been a feature of conference alignments until recently. It is, in my opinion, fundamentally misunderstanding the nature of college sports to try to create arbitrary fandom borders like professional sports. I think it’s shortsighted and robs college athletics of one of its coolest aspects.