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Postby Billyboy78 » 2 weeks ago

twisted3829 wrote:only 30 obstructed view seats left

Looks like all the obstructeds are gone now too. Complete sellout (assuming 1500 students show up).
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Postby TruePoint » 2 weeks ago

Goddamn it. Where am I supposed to put my coat? I purposely picked seats next to the obstructed view seats so nobody would sit next to me! They didn't even sell the seat next to mine for the PC game.

Oh, the times we are living in!
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Postby adam914 » 2 weeks ago

TruePoint wrote:Goddamn it. Where am I supposed to put my coat? I purposely picked seats next to the obstructed view seats so nobody would sit next to me! They didn't even sell the seat next to mine for the PC game.

Oh, the times we are living in!


The seat is already obstructed anyway, just put your coat on the guys head. He can't complain, ticket says obstructed right on it.
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Postby Rhody15 » 2 weeks ago

I don’t understand how they can claim a “sell out” yet every seat is not bought.

Against Duquesne they clammed it was a sell out but attendance was around 7400.

Doesn’t make too much sense to claim a sell out if not every literal seat is bought...
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Postby twisted3829 » 2 weeks ago

bc the duquesne game was under due to the student not using their allotment. all the public tickets were sold
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Postby theblueram » 2 weeks ago

Isn't a sellout around 6,000 tickets sold?
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Postby Obadiah » 2 weeks ago

The number of tickets to be sold for each game is 6,157. When those are all sold, the game is considered a sellout. If the actual count is less than the 7,657 stated capacity of the arena that means the students did not take the full 1500 allotment. That is what happened with the Duquesne game. Since actual attendance was reported as 7,432, it means that only 1,275 students actually showed up resulting in the 225 shortfall. Until URI institutes a different system, we will never know prior to game how many students will show up. URI has excellent stats on how many students show up for each game.
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Postby theblueram » 2 weeks ago

I'm hearing the Richmond game is Greek Night so we should see a boost in students for that game.
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Postby twisted3829 » 2 weeks ago

4 lonely single obstructed view seats are the only seats available
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Postby RAM67 » 2 weeks ago

Like TP, I hope no one sits on my coat rack. In the last 5 years, I only recall one person sitting in the seat next to my two. (and they are fabulous seats)
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twisted3829 wrote:4 lonely single obstructed view seats are the only seats available


Someone buy those four seats and give them away to students!
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Rhody83 wrote:
twisted3829 wrote:4 lonely single obstructed view seats are the only seats available


Someone buy those four seats and give them away to students!

Looks like it's totally sold out now.
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Postby bigappleram » 2 weeks ago

Need to work on Richmond now. Too many seats left
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Postby twisted3829 » 2 weeks ago

Richmond may be tough, while they are playing well and URI is playing well, it is an 8:30 start on a Tuesday night. That is going to stop many of the families that may have gone if it was a 7 o'clock game.
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twisted3829 wrote:Richmond may be tough, while they are playing well and URI is playing well, it is an 8:30 start on a Tuesday night. That is going to stop many of the families that may have gone if it was a 7 o'clock game.

Going to need the students for that one, hopefully 2000+
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bigappleram wrote:Need to work on Richmond now. Too many seats left


Doesn't look like Richmond attendance will be good. We need to come up with some sort of short-notice marketing plan to fill some seats.
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bigappleram wrote:Need to work on Richmond now. Too many seats left


Doesn't look like Richmond attendance will be good. We need to come up with some sort of short-notice marketing plan to fill some seats.

I was thinking the overflow of students who couldn't get tickets to tonight's Davidson game be given tickets to the Richmond game.
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Postby eli#10 » 2 weeks ago

Here is an idea--all unsold tickets as of 7:30 should be made available to the students for free. This should allow for another great crowd.
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Postby reef » 2 weeks ago

What is the over under attendance for Richmond ??
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Postby Billyboy78 » 2 weeks ago

As we get more popular and tickets become more scarce, outside agencies become more involved. If you go for tickets to the Dayton game. It goes right to Vivid. 200 level seats are going for 152 dollars. That is one part of becoming more popular that I really don't like, but I guess it comes with the territory.
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I'm not sure what you clicked on, but I followed the links on gorhody and got right to our tickets at normal prices
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With an above official capacity crowd for Davidson, the average attendance rises to 5,952. If the the season were to end now, this number would be the highest in the sixteen years of the Ryan Center as the previous high was 5,915 in 2007-08. URI needs to average just 6,207 in its last three games to hit the 6,000 average mark goal for sixteen home games. An average of 7,540 would be required to make the 100,000 total patrons for the year milestone (previous high was 97,762 for seventeen game slate in 2003-04) .


RHODE ISLAND HOME ATTENDANCE 2017-18 YTD
OPPONENT | ATTENDANCE | TO DATE | AVERAGE | LY AVG | DIFF | %
UNC-Asheville | 6,367 | 6,367 | 6,367 | 6,052 | 315 | 5.2%
Holy Cross | 4,309 | 10,676 | 5,338 | 5,037 | 302 | 6.0%
Brown | 4,485 | 15,161 | 5,054 | 5,234 | (181) | -3.5%
Providence | 7,959 | 23,120 | 5,780 | 5,082 | 698 | 13.7%
Charleston | 5,761 | 28,881 | 5,776 | 4,916 | 860 | 17.5%
Iona | 4,381 | 33,262 | 5,544 | 4,686 | 858 | 18.3%
Florida Gulf Coast | 5,347 | 38,609 | 5,516 | 4,527 | 989 | 21.8%
George Mason | 6,383 | 44,992 | 5,624 | 4,446 | 1,178 | 26.5%
LaSalle | 4,549 | 49,541 | 5,505 | 4,369 | 1,136 | 26.0%
St. Bonaventure | 7,082 | 56,623 | 5,662 | 4,552 | 1,110 | 24.4%
UMass | 5,583 | 62,206 | 5,655 | 4,753 | 903 | 19.0%
Duquesne | 7,432 | 69,638 | 5,803 | 4,789 | 1,014 | 21.2%
Davidson | 7,743 | 77,381 | 5,952 | 4,989 | 963 | 19.3%



RHODE ISLAND HOME ATTENDANCE 2016-17
OPPONENT | ATTENDANCE | TO DATE | AVERAGE
Dartmouth | 6,052 | 6,052 | 6,052
Marist | 4,021 | 10,073 | 5,037
Brown | 5,630 | 15,703 | 5,234
Belmont | 4,626 | 20,329 | 5,082
Old Dominion | 4,250 | 24,579 | 4,916
Holy Cross | 3,537 | 28,116 | 4,686
William & Mary | 3,570 | 31,686 | 4,527
St. Joe's | 3,880 | 35,566 | 4,446
La Salle | 3,753 | 39,319 | 4,369
UMass | 6,202 | 45,521 | 4,552
St. Bonaventure | 6,757 | 52,278 | 4,753
George Washington | 5,190 | 57,468 | 4,789
Dayton | 7,394 | 64,862 | 4,989
Fordham | 3,791 | 68,653 | 4,904
VCU | 6,845 | 75,498 | 5,033
Davidson | 7,263 | 82,761 | 5,173



RYAN CENTER URI HOME ATTENDANCE BY AVERAGE
SEASON | GAMES | TOTAL | AVERAGE
2007-08 | 15 | 88,731 | 5,915
2003-04 | 17 | 97,762 | 5,751
2002-03 | 17 | 96,194 | 5,658
2014-15 | 16 | 86,461 | 5,404
2008-09 | 14 | 74,196 | 5,300
2009-10 | 17 | 88,853 | 5,227
2016-17 | 16 | 82,761 | 5,173
2005-06 | 16 | 76,150 | 4,760
2015-16 | 17 | 80,198 | 4,718
2004-05 | 14 | 65,227 | 4,659
2010-11 | 16 | 72,598 | 4,537
2006-07 | 15 | 67,293 | 4,486
2013-14 | 16 | 71,058 | 4,441
2012-13 | 15 | 64,368 | 4,291
2011-12 | 15 | 57,428 | 3,829
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RhowdyRam02 wrote:I'm not sure what you clicked on, but I followed the links on gorhody and got right to our tickets at normal prices

I was on GoRhody.com on the schedule section, clicked on tickets for Dayton and it took me directly to Vivid Seats.
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Postby Rhody Guy » 2 weeks ago

Walking out I heard some guys talking about the Richmond game and saying they should check it out. Everyone around me was talking about the program as if they had never heard of it before the last few weeks. Definitely a lot of new buzz going on in the state right now.
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RhowdyRam02 wrote:I'm not sure what you clicked on, but I followed the links on gorhody and got right to our tickets at normal prices

I was on GoRhody.com on the schedule section, clicked on tickets for Dayton and it took me directly to Vivid Seats.

https://www.vividseats.com/ncaab/rhode- ... 66473.html
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Rhody Guy wrote:Walking out I heard some guys talking about the Richmond game and saying they should check it out. Everyone around me was talking about the program as if they had never heard of it before the last few weeks. Definitely a lot of new buzz going on in the state right now.


I saw a guy in a PC sweatshirt at the game. I wonder who he rooted for.
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It looks like we'll finish the season averaging over 6K a game. Dayton is already a near sellout and I'd be shocked if Senior Night isn't as well. In that case, Richmond "only" drawing 6K will mean we'll average 6200/game.
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Postby Obadiah » 2 weeks ago

The record attendance for students at a game is 2800. That situation can occur when the game apparently will not sell out and rather than leave an empty seat, Athletics decides to let in more students beyond the 1500 regular cap. Could apply to Richmond game.
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Definitely. Students do well at mid week games to supplement weaker paid attendance.
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And, an 8:30 start should give plenty of time for pre-gaming, I mean, homework, to be done.
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Rhody74 wrote:It looks like we'll finish the season averaging over 6K a game. Dayton is already a near sellout and I'd be shocked if Senior Night isn't as well. In that case, Richmond "only" drawing 6K will mean we'll average 6200/game.


If that happens, this team and the attendance figures will have outperformed everyone's prediction except for Seawright. For all the moaning and groaning about not selling out every game, that's an INCREDIBLE improvement, not only year-over-year, but relative to everyone's expectations prior to the season.

There is NOTHING to feel bad about, or lower ourselves to the level of those trolls who can only point to lack of sellouts for every game.

This team has exceeded expectations and the fans have exceeded expectations.

Most importantly, this will result in more money to the program as a direct result of ticket sales. I'd guess in the neighborhood of $500k - $700k (1,000 additional tickets x 16 games x $35 per ticket). Not to mention additional concessions and merchandise sales. That, plus tournament money and additional donations. This year will help the program take a HUGE step forward.
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Last night's large crowd (7,019) for Richmond raises the season average attendance to 6,029. With near sellouts expected for the last two games, it is now becoming a near certainty that URI will break the 6k average mark for the year. Attendance for this season to date is now trending 22.9% more than last year for a comparable number of games. Rhode Island is also on track to record the highest number for total attendance regardless of the number of games for this season as well. The old high of 97,762 for seventeen games set in 2003-04 should be exceeded in just sixteen games this year.


RHODE ISLAND HOME ATTENDANCE 2017-18 YTD
OPPONENT | ATTENDANCE | TO DATE | AVERAGE | LY AVG | DIFF | %
UNC-Asheville | 6,367 | 6,367 | 6,367 | 6,052 | 315 | 5.2%
Holy Cross | 4,309 | 10,676 | 5,338 | 5,037 | 302 | 6.0%
Brown | 4,485 | 15,161 | 5,054 | 5,234 | (181) | -3.5%
Providence | 7,959 | 23,120 | 5,780 | 5,082 | 698 | 13.7%
Charleston | 5,761 | 28,881 | 5,776 | 4,916 | 860 | 17.5%
Iona | 4,381 | 33,262 | 5,544 | 4,686 | 858 | 18.3%
Florida Gulf Coast | 5,347 | 38,609 | 5,516 | 4,527 | 989 | 21.8%
George Mason | 6,383 | 44,992 | 5,624 | 4,446 | 1,178 | 26.5%
LaSalle | 4,549 | 49,541 | 5,505 | 4,369 | 1,136 | 26.0%
St. Bonaventure | 7,082 | 56,623 | 5,662 | 4,552 | 1,110 | 24.4%
UMass | 5,583 | 62,206 | 5,655 | 4,753 | 903 | 19.0%
Duquesne | 7,432 | 69,638 | 5,803 | 4,789 | 1,014 | 21.2%
Davidson | 7,743 | 77,381 | 5,952 | 4,989 | 963 | 19.3%
Richmond | 7,019 | 84,400 | 6,029 | 4,904 | 1,125 | 22.9%


RHODE ISLAND HOME ATTENDANCE 2016-17
OPPONENT | ATTENDANCE | TO DATE | AVERAGE
Dartmouth | 6,052 | 6,052 | 6,052
Marist | 4,021 | 10,073 | 5,037
Brown | 5,630 | 15,703 | 5,234
Belmont | 4,626 | 20,329 | 5,082
Old Dominion | 4,250 | 24,579 | 4,916
Holy Cross | 3,537 | 28,116 | 4,686
William & Mary | 3,570 | 31,686 | 4,527
St. Joe's | 3,880 | 35,566 | 4,446
La Salle | 3,753 | 39,319 | 4,369
UMass | 6,202 | 45,521 | 4,552
St. Bonaventure | 6,757 | 52,278 | 4,753
George Washington | 5,190 | 57,468 | 4,789
Dayton | 7,394 | 64,862 | 4,989
Fordham | 3,791 | 68,653 | 4,904
VCU | 6,845 | 75,498 | 5,033
Davidson | 7,263 | 82,761 | 5,173


RYAN CENTER URI HOME ATTENDANCE BY AVERAGE
SEASON | GAMES | TOTAL | AVERAGE
2007-08 | 15 | 88,731 | 5,915
2003-04 | 17 | 97,762 | 5,751
2002-03 | 17 | 96,194 | 5,658
2014-15 | 16 | 86,461 | 5,404
2008-09 | 14 | 74,196 | 5,300
2009-10 | 17 | 88,853 | 5,227
2016-17 | 16 | 82,761 | 5,173
2005-06 | 16 | 76,150 | 4,760
2015-16 | 17 | 80,198 | 4,718
2004-05 | 14 | 65,227 | 4,659
2010-11 | 16 | 72,598 | 4,537
2006-07 | 15 | 67,293 | 4,486
2013-14 | 16 | 71,058 | 4,441
2012-13 | 15 | 64,368 | 4,291
2011-12 | 15 | 57,428 | 3,829
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 week ago

Thx RF1 for keeping us updated. It feels great to remove that 07-08 attendance record from Baron and establish a new 6000+ mark under command of Dan Hurley.
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If we get 7700 the next two games (capacity is listed at 7,657, but we got 7,959 for PC and 7,743 for Davidson), we will average 6,238 for the season. That will not just break, but smash the prior record set in 2007-08 (5,915).

Also, with 7700 the next two games, total attendance for the year will be 99,800 - would be great if we could get a PC-level turnout this Friday and/or on Senior Night so we could eclipse the 100,000 mark for attendance. Guaranteed nobody called that one. I never even really thought about it.

One last note: with last night's game, total attendance for the season has passed the total attendance for last year - a year, mind you, that was the best for the program since the building opened - with two games still to play.
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Ramrod wrote:Most importantly, this will result in more money to the program as a direct result of ticket sales. I'd guess in the neighborhood of $500k - $700k (1,000 additional tickets x 16 games x $35 per ticket). Not to mention additional concessions and merchandise sales. That, plus tournament money and additional donations. This year will help the program take a HUGE step forward.


I think your revenue estimate is far too high. Most of the added tickets being sold are not of the $35.00 variety. They are the cheaper seats, most of which are in the upper balcony. These seats range from $15-25.00. Furthermore, not all the additional attendees paid for tickets. The Richmond game had far more students than the normal 1,500 allotment. I would estimate that about 2,500 of the 7,019 for the Richmond game were non paying students. My best guess would be the increased attendance for the year (over LY) netted somewhere in the additional $300,000-$400,000 range.
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A few of the games were premium priced, including Dayton which will be a sellout. So that will certainly help revenue.
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Plus all the sales revenue you get on top of the gate...

Clothing and souvenir sales. Beer sales. Food sales.

The value coming into the building goes up exponentially the more people you get in the door.
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Ramrod wrote:Most importantly, this will result in more money to the program as a direct result of ticket sales. I'd guess in the neighborhood of $500k - $700k (1,000 additional tickets x 16 games x $35 per ticket). Not to mention additional concessions and merchandise sales. That, plus tournament money and additional donations. This year will help the program take a HUGE step forward.


I think your revenue estimate is far too high. Most of the added tickets being sold are not of the $35.00 variety. They are the cheaper seats, most of which are in the upper balcony. These seats range from $15-25.00. Furthermore, not all the additional attendees paid for tickets. The Richmond game had far more students than the normal 1,500 allotment. I would estimate that about 2,500 of the 7,019 for the Richmond game were non paying students. My best guess would be the increased attendance for the year (over LY) netted somewhere in the additional $300,000-$400,000 range.


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RF1 wrote:
Ramrod wrote:Most importantly, this will result in more money to the program as a direct result of ticket sales. I'd guess in the neighborhood of $500k - $700k (1,000 additional tickets x 16 games x $35 per ticket). Not to mention additional concessions and merchandise sales. That, plus tournament money and additional donations. This year will help the program take a HUGE step forward.


I think your revenue estimate is far too high. Most of the added tickets being sold are not of the $35.00 variety. They are the cheaper seats, most of which are in the upper balcony. These seats range from $15-25.00. Furthermore, not all the additional attendees paid for tickets. The Richmond game had far more students than the normal 1,500 allotment. I would estimate that about 2,500 of the 7,019 for the Richmond game were non paying students. My best guess would be the increased attendance for the year (over LY) netted somewhere in the additional $300,000-$400,000 range.


Totally fair. My figure wasn't including any kind of concessions or anything like that. So perhaps $500k additional revenue over last year. Hard to figure an average price per ticket for those additional 1,000 per game this year. Some of those are going to be free like you said for students. But some could be premium tickets too. Somewhere in that ballpark was my point, not like you and I are off by a factor of 10 or anything. Point being, it's all gravy and helps the program invest in things like charter flights for away games, coach pay, equipment/facilities (have they fixed the hot tubs yet?!?). I think this team could easily exceed 6,000 average over the next couple years if things stay on the same trajectory they've been on. Sky is the limit!
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Blue Man wrote:Plus all the sales revenue you get on top of the gate...

Clothing and souvenir sales. Beer sales. Food sales.

The value coming into the building goes up exponentially the more people you get in the door.


Without major changes, they aren't going to make any more money on concessions.
They could triple attendance, and with current set up/processes... they probably wouldn't be able to sell any more beer/food.... :lol:
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Blue Man wrote:Plus all the sales revenue you get on top of the gate...

Clothing and souvenir sales. Beer sales. Food sales.

The value coming into the building goes up exponentially the more people you get in the door.


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any positive constant raised to a power.

— Related forms
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Re: 2017-18 Attendance Prediction Summary

Postby Blue Man » 1 week ago

Rhody83 wrote:
Blue Man wrote:Plus all the sales revenue you get on top of the gate...

Clothing and souvenir sales. Beer sales. Food sales.

The value coming into the building goes up exponentially the more people you get in the door.


Do you know the meaning of exponentially?
Exponential
— adjective
of or pertaining to an exponent or exponents.
Mathematics .
of or pertaining to the constant e.
(of an equation) having one or more unknown variables in one or more exponents.

— noun
Mathematics .
the constant e raised to the power equal to a given expression, as e 3 x, which is the exponential of 3 x.
any positive constant raised to a power.

— Related forms
ex·po·nen·tial·ly, adverb


Yes, dill hole. When used in the context of the above statement; it infers that the more people (variables) you introduce into an environment, the likelihood of a change in that (spending) behavior goes up at a rate faster than a linear correlation would provide.

Exponential growth is best expressed on a graph that depicts a standard growth rate over time. For example, if I were to call you a dill hole 5% more frequently than I had in the past, and kept up that rate of calling you a dill hole at 5% more than previous, that rate would continue to compound and if plotted on a graph, the line would trend upward on the y axis, rather than continue on a linear correlation at a 45 degree angle.

i.e. more people coming in who may not have been in the Ryan Center before may not own Rhody gear and may want to purchase that at a rate higher than those who are regulars.

People who may not know how crowded it gets and don’t go somewhere to pre-game may actually wait in lines to buy refreshments.

NYG208 posted a great point that lines and customer service may force a deviation from the normal probability distribution established in an experiment (highest point of a bell curve model) where those lines may drive revenue away and downward, but for all intents and purposes let’s consider our experiment to have a more controlled environment with limited variables just for the sake of this discussion.

Great job cutting and pasting the definition to the root word and not the word used though.

You sure we graduated from the same school?
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Postby Obadiah » 6 days ago

Yes, attendance at Ryan is on the upswing and puts URI among the leaders in the A-10, with an average to date of 6,029. But we can do better. We have never opened the season with a sellout which should be a future goal. We need to have sellouts of OOC games besides PC. We need better promotion for A-10 games during the January intersession period to increase student attendance. No game attendance should fall below 4,000, better yet, 5,000.

As comparison, look at Richmond. OK the school is located in a more populous area, but it is a small school and has an arena slightly smaller than Ryan. Despite a bad start to season going 2-9 in OOC, Richmond has had five sellouts this season and their average attendance to date is 6,505.
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Postby Rhody83 » 6 days ago

Blue Man wrote:
Rhody83 wrote:
Blue Man wrote:Plus all the sales revenue you get on top of the gate...

Clothing and souvenir sales. Beer sales. Food sales.

The value coming into the building goes up exponentially the more people you get in the door.


Do you know the meaning of exponentially?
Exponential
— adjective
of or pertaining to an exponent or exponents.
Mathematics .
of or pertaining to the constant e.
(of an equation) having one or more unknown variables in one or more exponents.

— noun
Mathematics .
the constant e raised to the power equal to a given expression, as e 3 x, which is the exponential of 3 x.
any positive constant raised to a power.

— Related forms
ex·po·nen·tial·ly, adverb


Yes, dill hole. When used in the context of the above statement; it infers that the more people (variables) you introduce into an environment, the likelihood of a change in that (spending) behavior goes up at a rate faster than a linear correlation would provide.

Exponential growth is best expressed on a graph that depicts a standard growth rate over time. For example, if I were to call you a dill hole 5% more frequently than I had in the past, and kept up that rate of calling you a dill hole at 5% more than previous, that rate would continue to compound and if plotted on a graph, the line would trend upward on the y axis, rather than continue on a linear correlation at a 45 degree angle.

i.e. more people coming in who may not have been in the Ryan Center before may not own Rhody gear and may want to purchase that at a rate higher than those who are regulars.

People who may not know how crowded it gets and don’t go somewhere to pre-game may actually wait in lines to buy refreshments.

NYG208 posted a great point that lines and customer service may force a deviation from the normal probability distribution established in an experiment (highest point of a bell curve model) where those lines may drive revenue away and downward, but for all intents and purposes let’s consider our experiment to have a more controlled environment with limited variables just for the sake of this discussion.

Great job cutting and pasting the definition to the root word and not the word used though.

You sure we graduated from the same school?


Now that your immature attack is over, I will tell you that I disagree with you. There is nothing to support that the more fans that come in the door that other sales will go up exponentially. Common sense would point to just the opposite. URI/RC will not increase the capacity to handle additional lines and people tend to avoid waiting in longer lines to purchase something when they are at the arena to watch the game. If you stated that the sale of food and mechandise would have a linear growth as attendance increased, I could accept that even though I don’t believe it is likely (because of the capacity/line issue previously stated). I am confident my career has been more successful than yours based on what I have seen from you on this board. I am glad you are a great Rhody supporter and appreciated some of your rants last year. We all support the same team. Go attack someone else.
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Re: 2017-18 Attendance Prediction Summary

Postby Blue Man » 5 days ago

Rhody83 wrote:
Blue Man wrote:
Rhody83 wrote:
Do you know the meaning of exponentially?
Exponential
— adjective
of or pertaining to an exponent or exponents.
Mathematics .
of or pertaining to the constant e.
(of an equation) having one or more unknown variables in one or more exponents.

— noun
Mathematics .
the constant e raised to the power equal to a given expression, as e 3 x, which is the exponential of 3 x.
any positive constant raised to a power.

— Related forms
ex·po·nen·tial·ly, adverb


Yes, dill hole. When used in the context of the above statement; it infers that the more people (variables) you introduce into an environment, the likelihood of a change in that (spending) behavior goes up at a rate faster than a linear correlation would provide.

Exponential growth is best expressed on a graph that depicts a standard growth rate over time. For example, if I were to call you a dill hole 5% more frequently than I had in the past, and kept up that rate of calling you a dill hole at 5% more than previous, that rate would continue to compound and if plotted on a graph, the line would trend upward on the y axis, rather than continue on a linear correlation at a 45 degree angle.

i.e. more people coming in who may not have been in the Ryan Center before may not own Rhody gear and may want to purchase that at a rate higher than those who are regulars.

People who may not know how crowded it gets and don’t go somewhere to pre-game may actually wait in lines to buy refreshments.

NYG208 posted a great point that lines and customer service may force a deviation from the normal probability distribution established in an experiment (highest point of a bell curve model) where those lines may drive revenue away and downward, but for all intents and purposes let’s consider our experiment to have a more controlled environment with limited variables just for the sake of this discussion.

Great job cutting and pasting the definition to the root word and not the word used though.

You sure we graduated from the same school?


Now that your immature attack is over, I will tell you that I disagree with you. There is nothing to support that the more fans that come in the door that other sales will go up exponentially. Common sense would point to just the opposite. URI/RC will not increase the capacity to handle additional lines and people tend to avoid waiting in longer lines to purchase something when they are at the arena to watch the game. If you stated that the sale of food and mechandise would have a linear growth as attendance increased, I could accept that even though I don’t believe it is likely (because of the capacity/line issue previously stated). I am confident my career has been more successful than yours based on what I have seen from you on this board. I am glad you are a great Rhody supporter and appreciated some of your rants last year. We all support the same team. Go attack someone else.


There's a lot to unpack here, so I'm just going to dive right in.

We'll start at the end where you play the "I make more money than you" card based on nothing but message board posts. Want to talk immature? You win.

a) I hope you do, you're like double my age. You'd probably be doing really well for yourself.

b) the confidence in your career successes might be misplaced though. It took you 2 days to respond to what you are calling an "attack" which tells me one of two things - 1) you don't own a smartphone or possess the technological capability in 2018 to view this board and the alerts when someone quotes your comment. I'm not sure what kind of career successes you can have in this day and age like that. OR 2) you are SO SUCCESSFUL in your career that you're super busy on Saturdays and Sundays working because you didn't properly set yourself up for retirement so you need to keep working really hard at your age. Sorry man, I'd be internet mad too. Thanks for your lesson, I'll make sure I don't make the same mistake.

c) an attack usually implies there was some sort of aggression in the initial conversation. Considering I didn't converse with you directly, and put up a pretty benign post about how great it is getting more people into the Ryan Center - seems to me like you're the aggressor here.

d) if there's one common trait in all successful people, I'm sure it's that they talk about how much more successful they are in their careers than internet strangers that they're like 30 years older than.

At least when D_P_S and I, or anyone else that gets into message board fights, go at it - it always tends to focus on the team, the fans, and differing viewpoints on anything in between. It never goes to a personal or career route. But you chose to do that, so that says something about you.

You literally tried to explain the definition of a word to me like I'm a child, not expecting me to have any shred of intellect to back up an intelligent statement, and it blew up in your face when I called you on it. Welcome to the internet?

I'm not even sure how me saying that revenue would increase exponentially would get your goat that badly - but it really isn't that far fetched of an idea.

If more people are coming into the Ryan Center who haven't been in years - are they more likely or less likely to purchase new gear to wear than a regular fan who goes to every game? I would say yes.

Say only 5% of the regular 4000 fans purchase something at the Ram Zone every game(R). Say that of the 2000 fans that show up new, 20% purchase something at the Ram Zone every game (N). If you were just plotting that on a graph, that is the very definition of exponential growth. The spending per person is higher in that scenario from one person to another. That's an easy thing to prove.

If 4000 R buys a product at a rate of 5%, that = 200 units per game.

If 2000 N buys a product at a rate of 20%, that = 400 units per game.

That is a literary interpretation of exponential growth in which 1N > 1R.

Keeping in this math lesson (God I hope your "successful" career isn't in finance), the bell-curve example that NYG pointed out isn't a mutually exclusive entity that cannot include an exponential growth model. In the statement above I said that there is most certainly a cap on revenue that can be brought in based on the deplorable customer service levels that appear in the building when nearing capacity.

That doesn't mean that there isn't going to be exponential growth up to that cap. As in the example of regulars understanding that the lines suck so they go to eat before hand, but new people will wait in the lines because they're hungry. Not far-fetched examples.

Honestly, of all the things I've written on this board - the statement that (incorrectly) set you off has gotta be #2510 on the offense scale.

But keep on keeping on, dill hole. I sit in 205 if you want to have a more personal conversation - you can tell me all about your career successes. I'm sure I'll care!
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Postby NYGFan_Section208 » 5 days ago

Rhody83 wrote:
Blue Man wrote:
Rhody83 wrote:
Do you know the meaning of exponentially?
Exponential
— adjective
of or pertaining to an exponent or exponents.
Mathematics .
of or pertaining to the constant e.
(of an equation) having one or more unknown variables in one or more exponents.

— noun
Mathematics .
the constant e raised to the power equal to a given expression, as e 3 x, which is the exponential of 3 x.
any positive constant raised to a power.

— Related forms
ex·po·nen·tial·ly, adverb


Yes, dill hole. When used in the context of the above statement; it infers that the more people (variables) you introduce into an environment, the likelihood of a change in that (spending) behavior goes up at a rate faster than a linear correlation would provide.

Exponential growth is best expressed on a graph that depicts a standard growth rate over time. For example, if I were to call you a dill hole 5% more frequently than I had in the past, and kept up that rate of calling you a dill hole at 5% more than previous, that rate would continue to compound and if plotted on a graph, the line would trend upward on the y axis, rather than continue on a linear correlation at a 45 degree angle.

i.e. more people coming in who may not have been in the Ryan Center before may not own Rhody gear and may want to purchase that at a rate higher than those who are regulars.

People who may not know how crowded it gets and don’t go somewhere to pre-game may actually wait in lines to buy refreshments.

NYG208 posted a great point that lines and customer service may force a deviation from the normal probability distribution established in an experiment (highest point of a bell curve model) where those lines may drive revenue away and downward, but for all intents and purposes let’s consider our experiment to have a more controlled environment with limited variables just for the sake of this discussion.

Great job cutting and pasting the definition to the root word and not the word used though.

You sure we graduated from the same school?


Now that your immature attack is over, I will tell you that I disagree with you. There is nothing to support that the more fans that come in the door that other sales will go up exponentially. Common sense would point to just the opposite. URI/RC will not increase the capacity to handle additional lines and people tend to avoid waiting in longer lines to purchase something when they are at the arena to watch the game. If you stated that the sale of food and mechandise would have a linear growth as attendance increased, I could accept that even though I don’t believe it is likely (because of the capacity/line issue previously stated). I am confident my career has been more successful than yours based on what I have seen from you on this board. I am glad you are a great Rhody supporter and appreciated some of your rants last year. We all support the same team. Go attack someone else.


Wow....
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Postby ramster » 5 days ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
Rhody83 wrote:
Blue Man wrote:
Yes, dill hole. When used in the context of the above statement; it infers that the more people (variables) you introduce into an environment, the likelihood of a change in that (spending) behavior goes up at a rate faster than a linear correlation would provide.

Exponential growth is best expressed on a graph that depicts a standard growth rate over time. For example, if I were to call you a dill hole 5% more frequently than I had in the past, and kept up that rate of calling you a dill hole at 5% more than previous, that rate would continue to compound and if plotted on a graph, the line would trend upward on the y axis, rather than continue on a linear correlation at a 45 degree angle.

i.e. more people coming in who may not have been in the Ryan Center before may not own Rhody gear and may want to purchase that at a rate higher than those who are regulars.

People who may not know how crowded it gets and don’t go somewhere to pre-game may actually wait in lines to buy refreshments.

NYG208 posted a great point that lines and customer service may force a deviation from the normal probability distribution established in an experiment (highest point of a bell curve model) where those lines may drive revenue away and downward, but for all intents and purposes let’s consider our experiment to have a more controlled environment with limited variables just for the sake of this discussion.

Great job cutting and pasting the definition to the root word and not the word used though.

You sure we graduated from the same school?


Now that your immature attack is over, I will tell you that I disagree with you. There is nothing to support that the more fans that come in the door that other sales will go up exponentially. Common sense would point to just the opposite. URI/RC will not increase the capacity to handle additional lines and people tend to avoid waiting in longer lines to purchase something when they are at the arena to watch the game. If you stated that the sale of food and mechandise would have a linear growth as attendance increased, I could accept that even though I don’t believe it is likely (because of the capacity/line issue previously stated). I am confident my career has been more successful than yours based on what I have seen from you on this board. I am glad you are a great Rhody supporter and appreciated some of your rants last year. We all support the same team. Go attack someone else.


Wow....


:lol: :lol:

Wonder if there has been a study to compare "what someone posts on a message board" to their level of career success? This could e a Thesis for a PHD possibly? It might actually be "exponentially" the other way - if you spend too much of your life on a message board you don't have success. Think I might need to take a break from the board for the sake of my career :lol:
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Postby ramster » 5 days ago

BlueMan makes a great point about Exponential imho

We will hit 7600 for each of the last two games vs Dayton and St Joseph's to finish the season 6225mm per game - more than 1000 per game over last year - amazing

While the tickets don't sell for as much being up high and of lesser Face Value just as BlueMan says URI benefits from Store Sales, Concessions, Pub sales
And all this comes from fixed costs remaining the same:
- Heat the building
- Lighting
- Taxes and maintenance
- Concession pay
- Security and Ushers
- Referees
- Ticket sales people
- Police in parking lots directing traffic
- Etc

So those incremental ticket sales can be quite profitable

But the big exponential benefits come from:

- Filling the seats in the most beautiful Basketball Arena in the East and possible the Nation full of fans. All seats filled and makes for great looks on Television Highlights which are prevalent for all Top 25 teams and during Nationally Televised Games
- Our building is built for one thing - BASKETBALL - not like the Dunk that was built for Hockey and the seats arranged for Hockey - nothing like the Ryan Center
- Exciting for recruits to come in, see that and dream that they would want to be part of this program
- Look at the 2021 Top 25 Recruits we had in recently - and what an environment
- Applications to URI go up
- Donors step up when they see their school on the National News - and see URI Internationally in their travels on the Internet
- The Level of Recruit goes up - we are seeing this every year
- Hurley has put URI on the track for Gonzaga of the East. We are the Top Team in New England 2 years in a Row and next year will be 3 in a row
- This train has left the station and speeding ahead "exponentially"
- Now let's get that Dedicated Practice Center Announcement out there (wouldn't be surprised if the incoming 4 recruits already know something about that :D :D
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Postby NYGFan_Section208 » 5 days ago

Ramster...that all sounds great, but...before deciding how much weight to give it...can you give us the 411 on your career, please? :lol: :lol:
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Postby Billyboy78 » 5 days ago

I'm thinking that the St. Joe's game will eventually sell out, but there's an awful lot of tickets left right now.
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