NCAA Tournament - General Discussion

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 7 years ago

I hate when teams are down 1 with time left and take a deep 3.

GO TO THE RIM PRINCETON. GO TO THE RIM.

ND should've lost that game missing that free throw and giving the Ivy guys a chance.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 7 years ago

I was hoping for the Princeton win there vs Notre Dame. Was there at the PCC for the Princeton vs #1 seed Georgetown NCAA game in 1989. Unfortunately the Tigers lost heartbreakers in each game.

RhodeIslandRams · Unread post by **RhodeIslandRams** » 7 years ago

Hi Folks.

My son told me that right after selection Sunday he saw a Mascot promo on tv, that have about six mascots in a room, one was our 'Rhody Ram'. He said the Ram kept ramming his head into the wall, and he was impressed they picked URI as one of the mascots.

I can't find it! Has anyone seen this promo?

(EDIT: ATP corrects my son to say it was UNC's mascot. For that we should go to the final four)

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 7 years ago

It was UNC's mascot.

rhodysurf · Unread post by **rhodysurf** » 7 years ago

UNCW played really well, but parentes ran roughshod over them the last 10 minutes

RhodeIslandRams · Unread post by **RhodeIslandRams** » 7 years ago

ATPTourFan wrote:It was UNC's mascot.

My son, even at 20 years old, will get a SPANKING for teasing me that way.

Thanks ATP.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 7 years ago

Hey peeps...... back from AC....read just about all the posts since Monday......

It's a Brave New World in Kingston......

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 7 years ago

When I first saw it, I thought it might have been us.

Who doesn't love the UNC Running Rams?
Is there anyway thing they didn't steal from us????? Lol

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 7 years ago

Nah! Our Ram looks like some cheesy thing out of The Lion King.
Crappiest looking Ram mascot of all.
Bring back the old Ram!

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 7 years ago

Our current ram could easily use the third restroom option.

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 7 years ago

ramfan85 wrote:Our current ram could easily use the third restroom option.

Our ram needs a Clorox bath for starters.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 7 years ago

YES! He, she, it, STINKS!!!!!

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 7 years ago

Let's ask Lamar Odom and Cutino Mobley tomorrow since it's reported that they will be attending the rams game!

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 7 years ago

2 years ago at the A10 in Brooklyn, the Rhody ram was out there doing backflips in full gear...
THAT was impressive, with that giant head, regardless of smell or gender intent of the outfit....

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

How bout mt Saint Mary's against nova!!!

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 7 years ago

VCU looks one and done....down 15 at half.....they will probably make a run, they usually do, but if they can't make shots.....

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 7 years ago

Vermont is playing Purdue tough.

DeanDome88 · Unread post by **DeanDome88** » 7 years ago

VCU showing signs of life.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 7 years ago

C'mon you Richmond Rams!!! Let's goooooooo!!!

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

VCU needs some magic

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 7 years ago

VCU never should have been seeded higher than us.
Not enough skilled offensive players on their team.
And fwiw our win over Cincy and 2 wins over them should easily resulted in us being seeded higher.
They are living off their brand. I never understood why they were so solidly in the dance.

Joe · Unread post by **Joe** » 7 years ago

VCU getting HOSED by the refs. Feel bad for them. Scared something similar might happen to us tomorrow

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 7 years ago

I only saw VCU twice this year vs URI and wasn't impressed. Not surprising here then losing to a team that was in the top 25 all year

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 7 years ago

They got hosed by the refs but couldn't find the bottom of the net.

The mid majors got screwed at large though...just about every mid major that could be considered dangerous is playing against another.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 7 years ago

Makes me think Wichita will defeat Dayton tomorrow as Dayton struggled down the stretch

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

Their lack of three point accuracy has kept them from being really good all year.

That's the last of Jequan Lewis and ol Moe Allie cox.

Lower seeds have had a very tough time thus far.
MTSU and X the only low seeds to win.
Wouldn't call those games true upsets either.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 7 years ago

Middle Tennessee was favored today the trendy pick came in

Bodes well for us tomorrow as lots of people are showing us love

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

FLA FGCU has been a really good game.

Nevada Iowa state is faaaasst paced.
Nevada just goes down the court chucks up any and all shots.
And it seems like they miss like all of them

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 7 years ago

Mo Alie-Cox with 2 points and Tillman with 6?
Wow!
Landale killed them inside.
9 missed free throws.
Not representing the A-10 very well.
May result in Wade not being such a hot
commodity.

Watch Monte Morris of ISU.
We recruited him early on.
One terrific PG with a 6-1 assist to turnover ratio,
a good shooter and clutch player.

FSU must be the biggest team in the world, including the NBA.
7'4".7'1",6'10",2 6'9", and a 6'8". Starting guards, 6'6" and 6'4".
They have two more guards at 6'7" and 6'6".
That's the way the game is going, outside the A-10.

rhodysurf · Unread post by **rhodysurf** » 7 years ago

VCU did not look good at all. They were too aggressive on defense against a team that can shoot and isnt afraid to flop with all the grabbing and clawing VCU does.

Hamdy hacked whoever he was guarding every single possesion.

Terrible game to watch.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

The first day has been okay...pretty much every game has been competitive.
No shocking upsets or buzzer beaters though!

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 7 years ago

I don't think the FSU lineup is where CBB is going.
The defending national champion Villanova had 4 guards and a power forward (Ochefu) take them to the title. Who is their big Center this year when they are the #1 overall seed? Yes you have Gonzaga and FSU that have big front lines, but that is not indicative of a larger trend.

DIfferent strokes for different folks, going BIG is not a trend its a preference by some coaches. And not by others. Check the VCU board, they crush Shaka Smart for not recruiting or developing bigs. Kinda like what some say about DH here. Would we take Shaka as our coach? End of day there are a bunch of ways to skin the cat.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

It seems like most teams use 3 guards. Like 95 percent.

But I'm with Rod in the desire to get a good true center.

How well would we fair against some of the huge teams like FLA St or Gonzaga?
Tertsea and Laysaard are big, but we have no idea how good they will be.

The guards are a given for us, but we could rise to another level with some good bigs.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 7 years ago

Um, that PF you referred to on Villanova's title winner,
is 6'11", 250lbs.
Check out Arizona, Oregon, and Florida,among others.
Shaka? Must be why he recruited a 6'11 and 6'10" last
recruiting cycle, right?
Villanova? They have a guard, Mikal Bridges, as tall as our center.
Josh Hart is 6'6".
Darryl Reynolds is 6'9".
All the guys that play for Nova are highly skilled, fundamentally
sound, high basketball IQ players.
By the way, in the six seasons prior to last, Nova
never got past the round of 32.

PRT, I'm not fixated on a center.
You can win with 6'7"-6'9" forwards, who can
score and rebound.
URI hasn't has a scoring forward since Delroy James.
Not exactly yesterday,

giovanni · Unread post by **giovanni** » 7 years ago

"The defending national champion Villanova had 4 guards and a power forward (Ochefu) take them to the title. Who is their big Center this year when they are the #1 overall seed? Yes you have Gonzaga and FSU that have big front lines, but that is not indicative of a larger trend."

First of all, Villanova is an exception to many teams. Not sure how people can say they won with 4 guards. Daniel Ochefku was hardly a "PF". At 6-11 and big , a true center. Not sure if Kris Jenkens is considered a guard because he can shoot the lights out. And Josh Hart, who may be player of the year this year is a classic swing man in any era. Not many teams have a player like him. Not to mention Daryl Reynolds and Mykal Bridges, both solid 6-7, 6-8 guys played around 20 minutes a game. And even then, yes by national standards they were considered small. They also had great, not good, great players. And this year, yeah great team again, #1 seed, but every analyst will tell you the 2 things they worry about is their depth and lack of size. Its said time and again. Obviously we are not Villanova or a national program at this point.

VCU vs St Mary's and PC vs USC are 2 examples of teams that struggled quite a bit at times against great size from USC and St Mary's . See it in a lot of other games too. It's a fact.

Louisville, Kentucky, Arizona, UCLA, FSU, Baylor, Duke, Oregon, UNC, Purdue, Gonzaga.......what do they all have in common? Top teams in nation.....and a lot of size and length. Florida plays a bit small, but also have the quickest guards in the country and a 6-11 legitimate center in John Egbunu, who is out now, along with Rimmer 6-11 and David Robinson''s kid.

When I was at ACC tourney I couldn't believe the size and typically overall length of every ACC team beside ND. Incredible in person. And with the exception of Duke, we have never seen anything like that. And Giles didn't even play against us. There can be no denial we have had problems defending the few guys with size and any sort of ability. We had a difficult time stopping Jalen Jenkens at 6-7.

Notre Dame and Iowa St are examples of teams that are very good and also small, so obviously it can be done. But I am not sure if it is very accurate to say game is going in the smaller direction. At least outside of the A 10. We have what we have. Martin,strong, plays bigger than 6-7 and a beast and Iverson who is at least tall and long. And we became the A 10 champions and I believe the best team in the league overall. But I would like to see more size down the road. It can be a true weapon for those who believe it isn't. Hopefully Laysaard and Tertsea will develop into a couple very good bigs and we won't have to worry about this discussion down the line

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 7 years ago

This conversation about the usefulness of true centers is meaningless unless we are turning away skilled 7-footers in favor of guards. I'm sure Hurley would take Patton on his team any day. Look at all the hoops they tried to jump thru for Jordan Hare, who was a homeless person's Patton.

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 7 years ago

There are less than 15 extremely talented players 6'10 or taller.

There are 351 D1 basketball teams.

We are not getting one of those out-of-the-box talented bigs unless we become Gonzaga of the east (certainly possible with a couple runs), so we need to develop ours.

That's why we have a massive 6'10 man redshirted.

Again...everything with this basketball team isn't all or nothing. Obviously if we could get those extremely talented bigs we'd take them.

Not for nothing but our best team had a front court of 6'9 and 6'6. They beat the #1 team in the country who's front court was 6'11 and 6'9.

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 7 years ago

Blue Man wrote:They got hosed by the refs but couldn't find the bottom of the net.

The mid majors got screwed at large though...just about every mid major that could be considered dangerous is playing against another.

That's what happens when the cartel controls the selection committee -- they throw a few at-large crumbs to the non-cartel schools, match them the first weekend and by the second weekend it's the Cartel Invitational.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 7 years ago

Tertsea , 225lbs. at 6'10" isn't massive.
For the millionth time, I'm not talking about centers.
Plus those don't need to be "highly skilled", just useful,
like a Bonzie Colson.
Colson combined with Kenny Green, a smaller version of KG,
was deadly.
As for 1998, you had super skilled players Mobley, Wheeler and Murphy, to
get the bulk of the defense's attention.
Oh, Josh King was the other starter. he was 6'9" and could shoot 3's..
Scoring forwards. There's tons of them in college
basketball.
You know, the elusive stretch 4 that Hurley can't seem to find.

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 7 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Tertsea , 225lbs. at 6'10" isn't massive.
For the millionth time, I'm not talking about centers.
Plus those don't need to be "highly skilled", just useful,
like a Bonzie Colson.
Colson combined with Kenny Green, a smaller version of KG,
was deadly.
As for 1998, you had super skilled players Mobley, Wheeler and Murphy, to
get the bulk of the defense's attention.
Oh, Josh King was the other starter. he was 6'9" and could shoot 3's..
Scoring forwards. There's tons of them in college
basketball.
You know, the elusive stretch 4 that Hurley can't seem to find.

I'm not disagreeing with you about usefulness - that's definitely more important. See: Martin, Hassan for the perfect example.

I'm saying we need to develop them. If we have confidence in our coaches, especially ARD (I do), to develop these guys into useful players, than we should feel good that we're at least getting the frame and bodies in here as freshman to help.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 7 years ago

I think that's the point, right there, Rod. The game isn't really going toward being "bigger" versus smaller, in terms of there are less Dikembes, Hakeems, Shaqs...true fives dominating than there were in previous generations of basketball. What the game is trending toward is playing more uberathletes that are in the 6'6" - 6'10" range that are skilled and can play on the perimeter, put it on the deck, score at the rim, defend every position, rebound, etc. It's why the Celtics were so high on Jaylen Brown even though fans and some old school basketball fans didn't "get it" and Brown is going to be a very good, if not great, pro. It should be easier for URI to come up with these kinds of guys compared to true centers, too. They may not get the ready-made McD AA guys in that mold, but they can try to identify late bloomers or develop guys or find guys that are undervalued and underrecruited because they have an obvious hole in their game that we could live with. Baron was a shitty coach, but he actually did a decent job of bringing in this type of guy - Daniels,Delroy, Ulmer, etc. If they can get Layssard into shape he could potentially become one.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 7 years ago

Too bad we don't have KI another year; I think he has the potential to become a much more consistent offensive force.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 7 years ago

I still want to know why was an entire year of
eligibility wasted for Laysard?
He played a few minutes in garbage time.
Why not red-shit him, too?
He was our most ballyhooed recruit.
He looks like he's not in great shape,
but he and Berry can be found on milk cartons,
as MIA.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 7 years ago

I heard on the radio that SMU starts 5 guys that are all between 6'4 and 6'8 and they all can play.

There are a variety of ways to win but yes in a perfect world we would get all those tall guys who are multi talented

Da_Process_Survivor · Unread post by **Da_Process_Survivor** » 7 years ago

also, lets not overlook the fact that guys over 6'10 that can play are a rare breed. we arent in a recruiting position yet to get those players over the top programs.

we are on the path to it, but for true centers, we need to bring underrated guys and develop them. Like a Will Martel for example

Taylor Swift · Unread post by **Taylor Swift** » 7 years ago

ramfan85 wrote:Our current ram could easily use the third restroom option.

Did you just assume Rhody's gender?

Bos8 · Unread post by **Bos8** » 7 years ago

reef wrote:I heard on the radio that SMU starts 5 guys that are all between 6'4 and 6'8 and they all can play.

There are a variety of ways to win but yes in a perfect world we would get all those tall guys who are multi talented

PC starts Kyron and then starts a bunch of 6'7 guys,and bring guys like Fazekas off the bench.
I wouldn't mind adding a guy like Holt to our group next year. Definitely need a big that can step in and play right away alongside Cyril. Either from the Juco- or the development of someone from the bench.

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 7 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:I still want to know why was an entire year of
eligibility wasted for Laysard?
He played a few minutes in garbage time.
Why not red-shit him, too?
He was our most ballyhooed recruit.
He looks like he's not in great shape,
but he and Berry can be found on milk cartons,
as MIA.

I think part of Layssard riding the bench and being used sparingly was to separate out the classes a little bit. Next year will be a big hit when you consider you will lose EC, Jared, Jarvis, and Stan - plus the potential for a 5th if we got a grad transfer. If EC hadn't got injured we'd have been losing 3 this year and 3 next year, which I assume a coach would prefer for continuity.

Avoiding a year down the road where you would've lost another 4 players at the same time might be important for future planning.

If Dan is planning to stay and turn us into a dynasty in this conference, it's a lot easier to maintain when you don't lose 1/3 to 1/2 of your players in a given season.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

Blue Man wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:I still want to know why was an entire year of
eligibility wasted for Laysard?
He played a few minutes in garbage time.
Why not red-shit him, too?
He was our most ballyhooed recruit.
He looks like he's not in great shape,
but he and Berry can be found on milk cartons,
as MIA.
I think part of Layssard riding the bench and being used sparingly was to separate out the classes a little bit. Next year will be a big hit when you consider you will lose EC, Jared, Jarvis, and Stan - plus the potential for a 5th if we got a grad transfer. If EC hadn't got injured we'd have been losing 3 this year and 3 next year, which I assume a coach would prefer for continuity.

Avoiding a year down the road where you would've lost another 4 players at the same time might be important for future planning.

If Dan is planning to stay and turn us into a dynasty in this conference, it's a lot easier to maintain when you don't lose 1/3 to 1/2 of your players in a given season.

That and I think Dan wanted to keep him on the active roster in the event that there would be some major injury problems in the front court.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 7 years ago

Taylor Swift wrote:
ramfan85 wrote:Our current ram could easily use the third restroom option.
Did you just assume Rhody's gender?

I'd never do that, TS.
Some things you just don't want to know.....lol

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