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Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:21 am
by ramster
Rules changed last year by NCAA
Schools can release the box score if they want to

http://collegebasketball.ap.org/article ... crimmagesl


College basketball teams are allowed either two exhibition games or one exhibition game and one closed scrimmage.
These games have been commonly referred to as 'secret' because NCAA rules dictate that while teams can replace one of their two allowed exhibition games with a Division I opponent, it must be closed to the public and media. The only people allowed to attend are the players, coaches, game officials, and what the NCAA deems as 'essential personnel.'

https://www.google.com/amp/s/scout.com/ ... 159403/Amp

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:30 am
by Dre3000
rambone 78 wrote:So you believe that?
It's actually true. Lost by 7, Berry had 26 (lead all scorers) on 11/14 shooting, but I heard he also gave up a lot of points on defense. 3 point shooting was atrocious again going 1/11 and both teams stunk it up for the first 8 minutes of the scrimmage. With 12 left in the first half Harvard lead 8-4. This scrimmage was played as a real game.

Let's hope these shooting woes don't continue!

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:34 am
by bigappleram
Cyril didn’t play. Not sure if EC was held out again, my guess is he was.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:44 am
by rambone 78
With our frontcourt issues this could be more of a struggle than we think....

I know it's a scrimmage and Cyril was out [anyone else?] but if we shoot poorly from outside we will have trouble....

Definitely going to see zones if this continues.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:45 am
by Billyboy78
I hope Cyril is ready to go on Friday.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:50 am
by Rhody83
Maybe losing 2 out of your top 5 players is going to hurt more than we thought.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:01 am
by NYGFan_Section208
Gonna need to drain some 3s.....

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:04 am
by UCH21377
We may be unveiling a 5 guard offense at some point.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:05 am
by Iggy1979
rambone 78 wrote:So you believe that?
i accept your apology

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:07 am
by Iggy1979
It's going to take Hurley some time to figure out the rotation and how to best employ this many guards.
He also spends much more time at this point working on defense.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:47 am
by Roz
Losing makes me a little nervous. I thought EC was gonna play 18 mins.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:56 pm
by Rhody74
Dre3000 wrote:
rambone 78 wrote:So you believe that?
It's actually true. Lost by 7, Berry had 26 (lead all scorers) on 11/14 shooting, but I heard he also gave up a lot of points on defense. 3 point shooting was atrocious again going 1/11 and both teams stunk it up for the first 8 minutes of the scrimmage. With 12 left in the first half Harvard lead 8-4. This scrimmage was played as a real game.

Let's hope these shooting woes don't continue!
Uhoh, can I change my prediction to 14-15 overall and 8-10 in the conference? #skyfalling

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:35 pm
by ram1980
Somehow some way Layssard needs to be a contributing big man on this years team for them to achieve the success everyone expects. Berry cannot play man defense. It's too bad because he has some positive contributions on offense but his D is non existent

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:50 pm
by NYGFan_Section208
Not sure his D can ever be good enough to get significant/meaningful minutes...hope I'm wrong...but have not seen it yet.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:04 pm
by ramster

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:09 pm
by ramster
Dre3000 wrote:
rambone 78 wrote:So you believe that?
It's actually true. Lost by 7, Berry had 26 (lead all scorers) on 11/14 shooting, but I heard he also gave up a lot of points on defense. 3 point shooting was atrocious again going 1/11 and both teams stunk it up for the first 8 minutes of the scrimmage. With 12 left in the first half Harvard lead 8-4. This scrimmage was played as a real game.

Let's hope these shooting woes don't continue!
Dre,
What was the final score? 26 points is a lot for an exhibition game so just wondering how Berry's 26 represents as a percentage of the total points scored? Wonder how many of Berry's points came from offensive rebounds?
Did anyone not play?
Any surprise performances on the plus side? How did Russell look?

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:39 pm
by Obadiah
Does anyone knowing the rebounding difference and second chance points comparison??

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:42 am
by reef
I wonder if there will be a point spread on the UNC Ash game ?? If so I am thinking take the points and UNCA

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:53 am
by ramster

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:57 am
by ramster

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:57 am
by RoadyJay
ramster wrote:
KMac asks the question we all have be asking... Do we have enough answers inside to compliment a starry fleet of guards? I'm worried we don't.

Hass and KI are major losses and I think some of us tend to gloss over this. We believe we are a 'program' now that can quickly transition and continue to compete for A10 Championships and NCAA births. We will see.

It will be very interesting to see how this rotation shakes out and which other big besides Langevine will step up and become a real contributor. My fear is it's Langevine and no one else, which I can't see being enough for this team to make the tourney.

Can't wait for the games to start!

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:12 am
by RhowdyRam02
The thing is, even if we get off to a rough start, I think we're head and shoulders above everyone else in the conference this season. Every other team has more questions and doesn't have as many answers.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:18 am
by RoadyJay
RhowdyRam02 wrote:The thing is, even if we get off to a rough start, I think we're head and shoulders above everyone else in the conference this season. Every other team has more questions and doesn't have as many answers.
Agreed, A10 is certainly weaker than it's ever been in recent history. That's good in one way but bad in another.

I much prefer the scenario where we have a strong conference and 3-4 teams get in than a weak conference and you have to win the A10 to get in.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:33 am
by bigappleram
Legit concern Roady Jay and I agree.
We cannot reach our ceiling without at least a 2nd big contributing meaningful minutes and production - whether it be Preston, Akele, Berry or Layssard. We don't even need points out of that position, defense and rebounding more crucial. I'm hoping after 15-20 games that guy can be Preston.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:31 pm
by ramster

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:43 pm
by section(105)
.......for me the key is Preston to develop into the major front court contributor we are going to need.....honestly was disappointed what he showed in the exhibition game.....Coach took that on during the radio show saying he should have gotten him more minutes.....problem is he has to come up to speed at this level very quickly......

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:49 pm
by NYGFan_Section208
I think for Preston to get significant PT to improve...going to have to be less emphasis on 'making sure all 6 guards get enough minutes. But...hurls knows the squad better than we do.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:25 am
by RhowdyRam02
That's probably true, but which guard do you want to not see the floor?

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:49 am
by RhowdyRam02
One Alabama player is definitely going to be out for our game


Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:18 am
by ramster
The dangers of overseas trips. UCLA will be playing Georgia Tech in Shanghai Friday night

http://beta.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-uc ... story.html

https://sports.yahoo.com/liangelo-ball- ... 58780.html


Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:58 am
by Rhody74
ramster wrote:The dangers of overseas trips. UCLA will be playing Georgia Tech in Shanghai Friday night

http://beta.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-uc ... story.html

https://sports.yahoo.com/liangelo-ball- ... 58780.html

More like the dangers of having idiots on your team.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:12 am
by ramster
At any rate, should be an interesting game Friday night at 11:30pm on ESPN with Georgia Tech and UCLA in China.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:31 am
by NYGFan_Section208
Yahoo, citing anonymous legal sources familiar with Chinese law but who did not want to publicly speak out about the Chinese government, reports that shoplifting in China can lead to punishments as heavy as 3-10 years in prison. In the wake of the players being let out on bail, that punitive action seems highly unlikely.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... -in-china/

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:03 am
by ATPTourFan
These young people who go to places like China and North Korea and Venezuela and break the law have very little sympathy from this Keaney Blue member.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:20 am
by sf2010
I mean, we as a program are not exactly in a place to cast stones regarding players committing stupid acts with regards to legal matters, but I feel as though you have to be a special kind of stupid to do so in a place like the ones mentioned by ATP

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:33 pm
by Blue Man
sf2010 wrote:I mean, we as a program are not exactly in a place to cast stones regarding players committing stupid acts with regards to legal matters, but I feel as though you have to be a special kind of stupid to do so in a place like the ones mentioned by ATP
Stealing in a foreign country on a school trip/stealing period vs being drunk at a concert on your campus and getting into a shoving match.

Pre-meditated scumbaggery vs dumb stuff kids do. Not equal.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:54 pm
by sf2010
Agreed, very much not equal.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:17 pm
by PeterRamTime
He should've just sold his BallerBrand shoes for an insane amount

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:23 pm
by NYGFan_Section208
scumbaggery is scumbaggery...this is just extra extra stoopid scumbaggery

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:15 pm
by ATPTourFan

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:43 pm
by bigappleram
Loved this quote from EC

“Instead of having that desire to be just like the big-time schools and the big names, we are that,” Matthews said. “I feel like we’re going to get a team’s best effort every game now. That makes us work even harder.”

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:58 pm
by NYGFan_Section208
NIT Season Tip-off
Date: Nov. 23
Location: Barclays Center, New York
Matchups: Virginia vs. Vanderbilt, Rhode Island vs. Seton Hall
Last year's champion: Temple
Grade: A-
Comment: I'm in love with this field of teams. Rhode Island vs. Seton Hall is a matchup of stars in E.C. Matthews for the Rams and Angel Delgado for the Pirates; Virginia-Vandy should be a nice early season indicator as to how both teams should shape up in its respective conferences. All four should be headed to the NCAAs if they play to their projections in the preseason.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... jor-field/

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:20 am
by RhodyRams12
http://wpri.com/2017/11/08/full-intervi ... is-season/

Interview with Dan. Previews the season, talks about Stan’s situation, etc.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:31 am
by section(105)
....URI Alum Association has announced a bus trip to Booklyn for 11/24 NIT game.....

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:27 am
by sf2010
https://www.sbnation.com/college-basket ... e-kentucky

URI Seton Hall comes in as the 32nd "game to watch" this non-conference season. I'm a tad biased but I'd definitely list the URI/PC game ahead of at least a dozen of the games on this list.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:50 am
by ramster
sf2010 wrote:https://www.sbnation.com/college-basket ... e-kentucky

URI Seton Hall comes in as the 32nd "game to watch" this non-conference season. I'm a tad biased but I'd definitely list the URI/PC game ahead of at least a dozen of the games on this list.

Interesting he has Davidson at Nevada but I would for sure have Rhode Island @ Nevada

43. Davidson at Nevada (Nov. 21)
I will stay up past my bedtime to watch Peyton Aldridge and Jordan Caroline go at it, and you should, too.

32. Seton Hall vs. Rhode Island (NIT Season Tip-Off) (Nov. 23)
Both of these northeastern squads boast significant returnees from NCAA tournament teams, and fan bases that are thirsty for an even higher degree of success. Khadeen Carrington vs. E.C. Matthews figures to be a nice Thanksgiving Day treat for hoop heads.

And for sure Rhode Island @ Alabama on December 6 is a Top 50 non-conference game - but did not make the list

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:03 pm
by bigappleram
PC vs URI should be above most of these
PC is as good or better than Seton Hall, Alabama, Nevada and it carries with it all the in-state rivalry tension.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:12 pm
by sf2010
I'm not that mad about the best games list, given that they were clearly trying to include as many teams as possible and some obscure games that might go under the radar.

HOWEVUH [Stephen A. Smith voice], EC listed as #90 on this list (https://www.sbnation.com/a/ncaa-top-100-2017) while BJ Johnson from LaSalle comes in at #78, Kyron Cartwright at #72, Peyton Aldridge at #48, and Rodney Bullock at #47 is a travesty.

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:21 pm
by ramster
sf2010 wrote:I'm not that mad about the best games list, given that they were clearly trying to include as many teams as possible and some obscure games that might go under the radar.

HOWEVUH [Stephen A. Smith voice], EC listed as #90 on this list (https://www.sbnation.com/a/ncaa-top-100-2017) while BJ Johnson from LaSalle comes in at #78, Kyron Cartwright at #72[/b], Peyton Aldridge at #48, and Rodney Bullock at #47 is a travesty.


Bulletin Board :D :D

Re: The 2017-2018 Season

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:52 pm
by steviep123
bigappleram wrote:PC vs URI should be above most of these
PC is as good or better than Seton Hall, Alabama, Nevada and it carries with it all the in-state rivalry tension.
If you're going by the rivalry factor, then PC/URI should be on this list and higher than any other game that would involve Rhody. And the fact that both have high expectations, adds to that. However, if you consider all facets of the games, then URI/Seton Hall is probably the best of the 4 games. URI and Seton Hall have been thorns in each other's sides in recent years and both have some good star power that is notable. That said, all four URI games mentioned could easily be on the list.