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......any clue on what the are now paying or what to pay?....commitment to future?
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Paul Zeise: Bad coaching isn't the problem at Duquesne
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PM is going to be on a lot of short lists......first guy I thought of when Kellogg got canned
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5 years and no dance.......
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No Dance?! No DANCE? Duquesne has to start getting winning records before they can dance!

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Five years has become industry standard. At the A10 level anyway.
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Bye bye Ferry bye bye

That is a dead end job . They haven't been to the NCAA in ages and they drag the league down
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Sounds like they sent Ferry packing on a cruise. Bon voyage! Get it? Ferry. Cruise. Get it? See what I did there? Get it? ;-)
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People on here wanted Ferry when Baron was let go.
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They sure did. Ferry, Patsos and Skerry were all wanted by some here. None of them have done jack shit.
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Bos8 wrote:People on here wanted Ferry when Baron was let go.
And yet here we are ready to dance and do some damage :-)

Coach K couldn't turn Duquesne around. It's been widely publicized how poor the investment and dedication to that program are. The same things that had to change at URI that Thorr has done, they will never do there.

It's not a priority for them and I feel for the coach who takes that job. It's an absolute career killer for them.

All of that said they shouldn't be in our conference. Find another school to hold the midwestern footprint down to keep Dayton happy, but Duquesne makes us all worse.
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RhowdyRam02 wrote:I'm kind of surprised by this. There's talk that Duquesne is looking to spend $40 million to upgrade the Palumbo Center and associated facilities. If they do that they will have to play in an alternate venue next season. Seems like you'd be better off riding with Ferry for one more season so your next coach doesn't have to deal with the renovation inconveniences and bringing in a new coach and renovated arena at the same time should lead to maximum excitement and optimism in the fan base.
Per my understanding, not all of that construction money is slated for basketball. Much of it is for other sport athletics operations. Furthermore, the renovation to the Palumbo Center opened in 1988 will be to add more creature comforts which will result in a further reduction of capacity. The building originally opened with nearly all bleacher seating with a capacity of 6,200. With each renovation and upgrade since then, it has reduced capacity to the present day number of 4,390 which is a 30% decrease. Demand for tickets has never really been high at Duquesne so this has not mattered. The Dukes for instance drew a grand total of 21,915 to 18 home games this past season for an average of 1,218.

The ever shrinking AJ Palumbo Center Capacity
1988 Capacity 6,200
Sometime pre-2010 Capacity 5,358
2010 Capacity 4,406
2016 Capacity 4,390


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reef wrote:Bye bye Ferry bye bye

That is a dead end job . They haven't been to the NCAA in ages and they drag the league down
We thought we had it bad. Duquesne has not been to the NCAA since 1977. That is 40 years. During that time the best they have done is four NIT appearances (1980, 1981, 1994, 2009).

As a point of reference for younger Ram fans, URI since 1977 has appeared in seven NCAA tournaments (1978, 1988, 1993, 1997, 1998, 1999, & 2017) and eleven NIT Tournaments (1979, 1981, 1987, 1992, 1996, 2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2015).
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Duquesne Message Board Thread for Current Head Coach Hiring

They had two players make the A10 All Conference Freshmen Team but losing 14 of their last 15 games was rough. Their only win in the last 15 games was when they beat UMASS by 30 points

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bigappleram wrote:They sure did. Ferry, Patsos and Skerry were all wanted by some here. None of them have done jack shit.
You might want to check your facts regarding Pat Skerry. Look at where Towson was before he got there and look at Towson now. That's outstanding work by Pat Skerry.
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They were irrelevant before he got there and they are a shred less irrelevant now. So 6 years and 1 CIT bid and that's outstanding? I disagree.
In a conference where 1-2 recruits can catapult you to the top that is hardly outstanding. He brought 3 Big East transfers to the CAA and earned a CIT bid. If he is so outstanding why hasn't he gotten a whiff from a bigger school? It's hilarious you nitpick Dan and consider Skerry's resume outstanding...tells me all i need to know. You loco.
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To be fair, last two years brought a new prez and new ad (from Dayton)... what did it take for us to change?
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.....a pretty much complete fan uprising.....
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rodfromcranston wrote:Preston's too smart to take a dead end job like Duquesne.
Funny, back in the 60's and earlier, Duquesne was an
Eastern power.
They had some significant players.
Norm Nixon led the 1977 team.

The Iron Dukes were an original Eastern 8 team. Around 1990 Duquesne and La Salle made the inexplicable decision to join the Midwestern Cities Conference (which today is either the Horizon or the Summit), which was an express ticket to anonymity. La Salle eventually recovered, with the help of our own Pappy Owens, but it basically killed Duquesne.
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Mark Schmidt mentioned with Quinnipiac job

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If he took that job that is not a good look for the A-10, and it's a big loss for the league he is a great coach. He should get a bigger opp, gets a lot out of a little.
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Why the hell would he leave Bona for a conference like that ?? I don't get it
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reef wrote:Why the hell would he leave Bona for a conference like that ?? I don't get it
The Q has a decent arena and likely unlimited $$ (tuition $60k+)...in a pretty good position to step it up?
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Why does Quinnipiac have so much money to lure such a coach from a better program?

Seriously I probably should know but I don't......

National D1 ice hockey champs, hoops next?

Really I don't get it.
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Well says they are offering 800 k I guess money talks. Any idea what he makes at Bona ??
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Any idea who is on Duquesne short list ??
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South Florida (AAC) hires Brian Gregory, formerly of Ga Tech and Dayton.
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my goal would be to stay off the carousel this year.. that would be great! though I fully understand we must follow it.
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reef wrote:Any idea who is on Duquesne short list ??
I know their message board did not want Brian Gregory.
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We should probably roll this discussion into the Coaching Carousel thread. Too many parallel discussions.
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Cuonzo Martin resigns at Cal, takes job at Missouri.

Lorenzo Romar is fired at Washington.

Martin hires former Washington assistant Michael Porter Sr as an assistant.

Porter's sons (2017 Michael Jr and 2018 Jontay) are expected to follow along/commit to Missouri.

Amateur athletics!
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To those who ask why a coach would take ______ job: I've known quite a few coaches over the years, and one thing they have in common is ego. Some hide it better than others, but they all have it. Every one of them thinks he could turn _______ around if he got the chance. Within three weeks, Duquesne will have someone who believes he will succeed where others failed.
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Wow! Romar has one of the top recruiting classes in the
country for next year.
Lots of fallout coming in Seattle.
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Not a bad landing spot for Gregory at South Florida

Cuonzo martin good hire at Mizzou, he is a Midwest guy played at Purdue he seemed as an odd fit on the west coast

Romar been at Washington for a long time I wonder where he lands ??

I heard on radio today Eric Mussleman who done great job at Nevada Reno will get a better job next year
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Crean out. He will land on his feet, I'm guessing. He's a very good coach.
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The curse of Bob Knight.
Indiana has gone to a couple of Sweet 16s.
Great by any standard, but after Knight's 24
NCAAs and 3 National Championships, and five
Final Fours, it's weak.
Fanbases at Indiana and UCLA still feel entitled
to be a top program and reclaim their glory days.
Anything less is unacceptable.
This regardless of reality.
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Would expect they will see how the NCAA Tournament Progresses and see how Teams and their Coaches perform.
The bad side for fans whose teams become Cinderellas. There's a lot of money out there as Missouri just showed


Glass said that he has been charged to find a new coach. He will not create a search committee but said that he will consult with basketball experts around the country, including former Indiana players.
"The expectations for Indiana University basketball are to perennially contend for and win multiple Big Ten championships, regularly go deep in the NCAA tournament, and win our next national championship -- and more after that," Glass said in the statement. "We will identify and recruit a coach who will meet these expectations."

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"The expectations for Indiana University basketball are to perennially contend for and win multiple Big Ten championships, regularly go deep in the NCAA tournament, and win our next national championship -- and more after that," Glass said in the statement. "We will identify and recruit a coach who will meet these expectations."

There you go! How unrealistic is this?
Is Jesus available to coach Indiana?
Just insane expectations on whoever takes this job.
Fourth coach after Knight.
At UCLA, other than Jim Harrick, every one of the seven
coaches who succeeded John Wooden failed to
win a championship.
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rodfromcranston wrote:The curse of Bob Knight.
Indiana has gone to a couple of Sweet 16s.
Great by any standard, but after Knight's 24
NCAAs and 3 National Championships, and five
Final Fours, it's weak.
Fanbases at Indiana and UCLA still feel entitled
to be a top program and reclaim their glory days.
Anything less is unacceptable.
This regardless of reality.

yup, they're the Notre Dame of basketball....living on past glory and keep rotating coaches with no patience for a true build process
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Notre Dame football is not similar in terms of not having patience. They have had 3 coaches in 20+ years since Holtz left. With Weis they may have had too much patience.
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I obviously have no knowledge but just a feeling that Hurley will end up in Indiana. It's a great job with a rich history and he won't have to rebuild.
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WOULD THINK COOLEY MIGHT BE IN LINE FOR INDIANA OR WHY NOT NC STATE
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scine20 wrote:I obviously have no knowledge but just a feeling that Hurley will end up in Indiana. It's a great job with a rich history and he won't have to rebuild.
Given Dan Hurley's fiery sideline behavior and Indiana's past experience with a coach also known for this, I highly doubt Hurley will be the next coach in Bloomington.
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RF1 wrote:
scine20 wrote:I obviously have no knowledge but just a feeling that Hurley will end up in Indiana. It's a great job with a rich history and he won't have to rebuild.
Given Dan Hurley's fiery sideline behavior and Indiana's past experience with a coach also known for this, I highly doubt Hurley will be the next coach in Bloomington.
They're totally different type of people. While Hurley has a tendency to be fiery, I don't get the feeling that he treats his players with anything but respect. The biggest issue with Knight is how he treated his players.
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scine20 wrote:I obviously have no knowledge but just a feeling that Hurley will end up in Indiana. It's a great job with a rich history and he won't have to rebuild.
Given Dan Hurley's fiery sideline behavior and Indiana's past experience with a coach also known for this, I highly doubt Hurley will be the next coach in Bloomington.
They're totally different type of people. While Hurley has a tendency to be fiery, I don't get the feeling that he treats his players with anything but respect. The biggest issue with Knight is how he treated his players.

I never wrote anything about Hurley with regard to his players. They seem to love him. Hurley however does have a fiery demeanor on the sidelines during games which irritates refs, opposing coaches (speak to Turgeon at UMD), and opposing fans. That is undeniable and it is what the general public sees and what forms its perception.

Knight's legacy with his players was mixed but was likely a big cause for his dismissal as it included verbal and physical abuse of some players. I however do not think the school liked and condoned his behavior on the sidelines which included berating refs, banging on the scorers table, hurling obscenities at fans in the stands, and throwing chairs onto the court.
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Hurley is not going to be in line for a Big 10 job, especially Indiana.
They'll be after someone with a track record of wining, and winning big.
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Bloomington is 950 miles from Kingston and 750 miles from Jersey City. His wife would kill him...
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TruePoint wrote:Notre Dame football is not similar in terms of not having patience. They have had 3 coaches in 20+ years since Holtz left. With Weis they may have had too much patience.

ummm, they've had six total, 4 if you count non interim and non application lying coaches. They never should've booted Willingham out the door, he was building something. Ironically Charlie only won games early on when he had Ty's players

Bob Davie for 5
George O'Leary for 0
Ty Willingham for 3
Kent Baer as interim
Weis for 5
Kelly for 7
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Willingham was a bust everywhere he went after ND.
No great loss.
I thought after Weis's first couple of years, he was
the answer. Nope.
Not a big Kelly fan, either.
Bring back the clone of Ara Parsegian!
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