rodfromcranston wrote:Because you feel our MVP true PG last yea,r deserves to sit
all next season.
Why? Because he's sick?
People sure have short memories on this board.
They forget this kid in the mask taking shots to the head
and gutting it out, game after game, and carrying the team
on both ends of the floor.
It's all about shiny new toys, right?
Yup you're right I said he should sit all next year.
Actually I said Dowtin should start and Garrett off the bench.
Garrett was great last year by default, with EC Hassan And Kuran being hurt throughout the year.
a big sigh of relief on this game - I was very worried about this one
Nice to see us moving up in the standings - with a big road win in February
VCU 7-2
Dayton 7-2 Rhode Island 7-3
Richmond 7-3
St Bonaventure 6-3
La Salle 6-3
Davidson 5-5
George Mason 4-5
George Washington 4-5
Saint Joseph's 3-6
Fordham 3-6
Saint Louis 3-7
Massachusetts 2-8
Duquesne 2-8
League Games Saturday
Duquesne @ Dayton
GW @ Richmond
VCU @ St Bonaventure
Fordham @ St Joe
LaSalle @ George Mason
I think we need to realize that JD is a freshman....not a junior or senior.....how many freshmen have we had especially at the guard position come up big like he did tonight? Not just scoring the ball, but playing great defense. Yes, JG and EC have done it at times....but JD is getting more and more consistent at it, which is something we're not used to.....
Aren't they supposed to develop gradually? ha ha....of course where would he be if he was still backing up JG?
Actually where would WE be if that happened?
Rod, I'm not knocking JG, he's the more natural PG of course...and he will make us even better when he returns to full strength.
Next season JG will play the point and Fatts will be backing him up...and JD will be playing the 2 more often than not.
Not a bad thing to have.
Oh, McKillop says Gibbs was sick...oh well too bad.....we catch a break, which we almost never get.
.....Rod, all true, except we are thriving today with Jeff holding down the fort, while Jarvis situation is unknown.....we gotta go with what is working.....I don't think anyone here is dissing Jarvis contributions..... just getting us to dance.....
rodfromcranston wrote:Because you feel our MVP true PG last yea,r deserves to sit
all next season.
Why? Because he's sick?
People sure have short memories on this board.
They forget this kid in the mask taking shots to the head
and gutting it out, game after game, and carrying the team
on both ends of the floor.
It's all about shiny new toys, right?
Yup you're right I said he should sit all next year.
Actually I said Dowtin should start and Garrett off the bench.
Garrett was great last year by default, with EC Hassan And Kuran being hurt throughout the year.
I don't even know what "great by default" means, but it makes no sense. He was great. No need to qualify it. He hadn't had a great year this year up until he went out of the lineup, but you have to think a big part of that was due to whatever has knocked him out of the lineup.
It's ok to praise Dowtin without taking gratuitous shots at Garrett. Garrett is a potential all-conference caliber player when he is healthy. Let's just worry about the guys that are available, and when Garrett is one of them he and Jeff will both get their minutes and I think it is fairly likely Garrett will return to the starting lineup. Who knows if that will be this year.
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"If you build it, they will come." --Us, circa 2011
Jarvis was great"out of default"????
That may be the most ridiculous thing I've
read on here in a long time.
So, his play was bogus? Because he stepped up
bigtime? With a broken jaw, wearing a mask and not being
able to properly breath. Default? Seriously?
Wow!
Rambone, you've knocked Garrett all year.
I can think of three PGs we've had who were
leading the team in scoring when their freshman year
was done.
"Great by default" meaning with all our star players hurt, there weren't many players left to be good/great. Someone had to step up for us. If EC and Hassan were heathy, you think he would have the a similar year? No, not at all.
Regardless of last year, Dowtin has earned the right to start for the remainder of the season.
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It really doesn't have to be one or the other. They are different players. What I do like about Dowtin is his length and his basketball IQ. He's a heady player and I can't say that about a lot of our guys. Time and score.
Dan will work Jarvis back in slowly imo.......whenever that is.
The chemistry right now is better....let's just roll with it.
It would be interesting to find out just how long ago JG started feeling bad.....at some point they'll tell us.
The one thing that no one has brought up tonight.....no Baron 2.0 posts.....
It really is true that when you win...the coach looks good......although I think Dan is starting to get it slowly but surely.
I checked the A10 board...twisted is on it a lot...one nitwit called Dan a "pageant mom".......they really can't stand him.....if we start to win more big games they will like him even less.....
Rod, again JG just didn't play well...now we know why.....so he gets a pass from me now.....
Kind of like this morning when some suggested that Robinson or Thompson should be starting against Davidson because Dowtin's defense would not be adequate or as good. I showed FG% data that PGs on the other teams the last 5 games had only shot 38% in the 5 games Dowtin has started. I also said that it is unnecessary to change Dowtin out of the starting line up having won 4 of 5 games with Dowtin starting.
Also said that you can play both Robinson and Dowtin in the line up at the same because they both make the team play well moving the ball and passing well.
Same can be said about Dowtin and Garrett - you don't have to pick one over the other. Let the best 5 players start and others play minutes based on their ability. Both could be in the starting line up next year. Who knows. Let the competition for starting roles begin next October.
No need at all to get into whether Dowtin or Garrett is better - it doesn't matter. Let's just be content that Dowtin has showed he can handle the PG spot - if not for him we would have Robinson at PG and then no real rack up.
Garrett was sick and no one really knows for how long, so judgements on his performance this season should be qualified because we don't know. But both can be in the starting line up next year, and for that matter even later this year, never know.
But let's enjoy the win, and enjoy this season, no need to worry about next year. This is what we live for - what's happening right now!
Enjoy! and pray that JG heals quickly and completely. He is a valuable member of this team!
Sometimes we may need length on defense and that's when Garrett would sit. Other times we may need a healthy Garrett's ball control and shooting. Either way, I'm sure both Garrett and dowtin would sacrifice a few minutes In exchange for playing more games in March.
Jeff is much better defensively imo than Jarvis.
Dan mentioned that Jarvis lost 15 lbs in three weeks. This comment was made when they first realized he was sick.
Based on that I am assuming he wasnt sick for Nov & Dec games. He did play poorly during that stretch.
Last year Jarvis had good stats on a team that couldn't win on the road and couldn't beat a good team.
Jarvis is an awesome player and carried an A10 team into a strong mid-tier A10 team. Thats HEAVY lifting. Throw in the mask. He's awesome. Not to mention the Keaney Blue threads he wore tonight.
Really a few bounces of the ball and last year Jarvis would have been arguably the best player playing on a top 3 A10 team. Thats a very good basketball player. I also thought JG was the first guy to try and take it to Cincinnati.
Jeff Dowtin is a delight. This isn't either or. DH plays 4 guards. Plenty of room out there. Going to need them both for where we want to go. Dowtin is the real deal though. Gibbs didn't seem sick at all. Watched plenty sick guys play. Gibbs seemed like he played his selfish style down the stretch against a team that matches up well against that.
You take one or the other if you want to be fighting for 3-5 spot in the A10. We need more than that.
Poor kid must have gotten motion sickness from all that flopping. Either that or Dowtin shutting him down just made him sick. Maybe even a combo of the two.
A pat on the back to URI for tonight's win. I turned on the game at start of 2nd half...watched team stand around...turn it over and miss jump shots...and watch Davidson run the court for dunks.
To see the team turn up the D...take and make good shots (EC took a bad one) and pull away ON THE ROAD...not what I expected. Job well done.
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When asked if he still expected Mexico to ultimately pay for the wall, Trump stated "I never said Mexico will pay for the wall. The rigged media has it wrong."
What a great 2nd half comeback! Stunning for a typical URI team. While it's not easy to do, particularly because it is boney and tough, crow needs to be eaten by some folks on this board, myself included.
PlayMikeMotenMore wrote:A pat on the back to URI for tonight's win. I turned on the game at start of 2nd half...watched team stand around...turn it over and miss jump shots...and watch Davidson run the court for dunks.
To see the team turn up the D...take and make good shots (EC took a bad one) and pull away ON THE ROAD...not what I expected. Job well done.
By the way, President Donald J. Trump has announced plans for building his security wall. "I am sending this URI basketball team to the US-Mexico border," Trump said. "They are tremendously bad at shooting free throws. With the bricks they are laying, that wall will be built in no time and at no cost to the taxpayers. It will be the best wall ever, believe me."
When asked if he still expected Mexico to ultimately pay for the wall, Trump stated "I never said Mexico will pay for the wall. The rigged media has it wrong."
Why can't you just leave it as a pat on the back? All the red is negativity that is not even necessary to say. A few positive words but really, this is one of the top wins in the Hurley era and you have 90% negatively in your positive post. Carry on.
WOW! Was hopping around in my plane seat on the way down to The Bowl all game. Very enjoyable game.
Think we ran a few play to get some fairly open squared up looks for EC. Comical thing is EC squared up in ding toed. AWESOME STUFF!
Nice job MEN and HURLEY!
Joe wrote:Kuran and Jeff are on opposite ends of the basketball IQ spectrum
But did you know that Kuran now leads the entire Atlantic 10 in Rebounding so far with 10 games played?
Kuran had 13 rebounds tonight to lead both teams. Next closest were Magarity and Aldridge with 8 each
Kuran also had a block and a nice assist to Martin for an easy 2 points
He had 2 steals which was double the total of the entire Davidson team of 1 steal. URI had 7 total steals.
Kuran had only 1 Turnover and only 2 fouls allowing him to play 34 minutes
I'll take a Kuran performance like that every game
I'm not eating crow, this kind of game from this program is a recent development and exactly what we've been chomping at the bit for. Great game!! Way to turn the tides and finish one off on the road. To me a game like this is more important than the last second buzzer beater game. Even if it takes three quarters of a game, I like getting the feeling that at some point we established that we are a better team, then we salted it away, on the road, as the better team should. Very, very gratifying game, I believe DH has 'outcoached' his counterpart in back to back very important games. Fun stuff.
I second the notion people should lay off Kuran and also Jarvis, both have been key contributors in the past and both will be key contributors in the future
EC in the zone from 3 need him to stay hot and start making 3s
Agree with all here love Dowtins game really fun to watch on offense and defense, shot looks funny but he makes it , real good passer and can take it to the hole and finish with his left hand . Also he plays with a high hoop IQ, he definitely needs his minutes
rodfromcranston wrote:Because you feel our MVP true PG last yea,r deserves to sit
all next season.
Why? Because he's sick?
People sure have short memories on this board.
They forget this kid in the mask taking shots to the head
and gutting it out, game after game, and carrying the team
on both ends of the floor.
It's all about shiny new toys, right?
Yup you're right I said he should sit all next year.
Actually I said Dowtin should start and Garrett off the bench.
Garrett was great last year by default, with EC Hassan And Kuran being hurt throughout the year.
Disagree. You don't have Garrett's stats last year by default, those were earned by great play with a depleted roster. I don't know when he started feeling ill, but if we see him close to full strength this year we're going to be pleased with the results.
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The return game at the end of the season will be very interesting. Will Gibbs overcome his illness/bad night or has Hurley found a match up that gives us a better chance to beat a team that before tonight had been successful against us
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A healthy Jarvis garret playing to his potential makes this team deeper and better period end. Need him back at full strength to get where we want to go. Pulling hard for him. He has earned our support.....
A lot has been said about Dan's stubbornness and lack of in game adjustments.
I do believe we have seen a change in his approach over the last month, and specifically 1 play stood out yesterday.
Gibbs went out with his 2nd foul, they put in their backup PG...we immediately went to a full court press and what do ya know, they threw the ball away and turned it over. Need to see more of those situational moves, step in the right direction.
Big A, you're right, Doesn't seem like we are locked into some present lineup at a preset time. There is enough talent on this team to play with who fits that particular night. I think we are seeing Mr Hurley go from an average to an above coach before our eyes. With the talent URI has that means we could do some damage in THE DANCE!
bigappleram wrote:A lot has been said about Dan's stubbornness and lack of in game adjustments.
I do believe we have seen a change in his approach over the last month, and specifically 1 play stood out yesterday.
Gibbs went out with his 2nd foul, they put in their backup PG...we immediately went to a full court press and what do ya know, they threw the ball away and turned it over. Need to see more of those situational moves, step in the right direction.
For those so inclined, here is a great recipe for eating crow:
Crow Casserole
Ingredients
12 pieces of crow breast meat (no bones) (6 crows)
2 quart sauerkraut
6 slices of bacon
1/3 cup of chopped onions
Preparation
Brown the crow breasts in a skillet with butter or oil. When browned, place them in a casserole dish on 1/2 inch layer of sauerkraut. Lay a 1/2 strip of bacon on each 1/2 breast and sprinkle the onion on them. Next, add another layer of sauerkraut and some of the juice. Bake at 350 degrees for 2 hours. Makes 2 servings.
I love Kuran - he's been playing great and will be missed next year. But if he consistently played intelligent basketball, he'd be on NBA draft boards for sure
Joe wrote:I love Kuran - he's been playing great and will be missed next year. But if he consistently played intelligent basketball, he'd be on NBA draft boards for sure
I'd have to agree, many thought he was an X factor type player for us this year given his skill set. And despite the occasional mind-numbing play he has been one of our more consistent players since A10 play, and is a big reason we are sitting at 7-3. Making better decisions with the ball, high-low action with Hassan has been great at times, not taking a defensive rebound and trying to channel his inner Allen Iverson going coast to coast, rebounding like a beast. It is time for our core 3 - EC, JT, Hass - to bring it for 40 minutes, every game, for the rest of the season.
bigappleram wrote:A lot has been said about Dan's stubbornness and lack of in game adjustments.
I do believe we have seen a change in his approach over the last month, and specifically 1 play stood out yesterday.
Gibbs went out with his 2nd foul, they put in their backup PG...we immediately went to a full court press and what do ya know, they threw the ball away and turned it over. Need to see more of those situational moves, step in the right direction.
Agree. Another quiet move I noticed is that when Martin needed a breather at the 6 minute mark, he put Akele in for a minute or two instead of Langevine. The way Davidson was cutting and moving, I thought that move made sense. Ended up not having a big impact but I'm glad it wasn't the automatic let's go to Langevine when Martin needs a break.
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