Week #12 - Games of Interest

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 7 years ago

Today's release of both the AP Top 25 Poll and the USA Today Poll finds no A-10 teams in the rankings. Dayton gets 6 votes in the AP poll.

With its win over Miami, Duke moves up one position to #17 in both polls. With wins over Temple and Tulane, Cincinnati moved up to #19 in both polls.

The cumulative won-lost record of URI OOC opponents now stands at 136-91, a winning percentage of .599, a slight decrease from the previous week.

Villanova continues to get the #1 ranking in the AP poll while the USA Today poll gives that nod to Kansas. Gonzaga at 19-0 remains the nation's only unbeaten D1 team.

With the week's win over Duquesne, there was a slight improvement in URI 's rating in three key rating systems.

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             Week #10  Week #11  Week #12

RPI*             41	   49	     47
Sagarin          38        53        49
Pomeroy          35        49	     46

*live-rpi.com

No Monday games in the A-10:

In games involving URI OOC opponents:

North Carolina State at Duke. 7 PM. On ESPN.

American at Holy Cross. 7 PM. On CBSSN.

thatRamBand · Unread post by **thatRamBand** » 7 years ago

That Dayton/VCU on game looms large at the end of this week for the Conference Standings. Friday @9pm

No mater what happens...it'll be a blast watching their fans fight on twitter.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 7 years ago

Not to get ahead of Obadiah, but I like #24 Xavier AT #19 Cincinnati 7pm Thursday on ESPN2

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 7 years ago

This Games of Interest thread is great...let's hope Obs keeps it going until March...meaning we're still relevant.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 7 years ago

Last week teams on the bubble went 15-11.

Next four out NC State is at Duke tonight.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 7 years ago

big win for the wolfpack coming up?

josephski · Unread post by **josephski** » 7 years ago

Nice win by NC State, although that will probably bump them ahead of us in bubble talk.

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 7 years ago

NC State, a team that lost to UNC by 51 points and took a loss at BC, goes into Cameron and comes from behind to beat Duke, 84-82.

Holy Cross beats American, 63-55. HC set a program record with16 steals in the game.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

josephski wrote:Nice win by NC State, although that will probably bump them ahead of us in bubble talk.

You can maybe argue now that beating cinci was better than beating Duke...
As far as tournament resume goes.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 7 years ago

Say it ain't so Jeff Capel and Duke U !!

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 7 years ago

NC State had not won at Cameron Indoor since 1995 or 22 years
NC State had not won a road game in NCAA Conference play in 3 years
NC State had just lost 4 of last 5 including 51 point loss to UNC
Not looking good on Jeff Capel's resume to succeed Coach K one day

Capel continues to tinker with line up changes opting for Grayson Allen and Luke Kinnard coming off the bench.

Needless to say Duke message board is not a happy place.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 7 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote:
josephski wrote:Nice win by NC State, although that will probably bump them ahead of us in bubble talk.
You can maybe argue now that beating cinci was better than beating Duke...
As far as tournament resume goes.

For sure. Cincinnati RPI is 15. Duke was about the same but will take a big hit losing at home. Highest rated team on our schedule is now Cincinnati at 15. Solid Top 25 win. Unarguable Top 25win, unlike a Nebraska win who dropped out of top 25 later in the season after we beat them.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 7 years ago

Hell, Nebraska dropped out of the top 100 by the end of the season.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 7 years ago

Abu scored 19 in that game against Duke. He would have looked good in Keaney Blue.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 7 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:Hell, Nebraska dropped out of the top 100 by the end of the season.

That's my point Rambone. Because Nebraska suffered badly after we beat them when they were legitimately ranked, many have remarked at this having been a Top 25 win with an "asterisk" but this Cincinnati win actually goes in the opposite direction with their team continually moving higher in the rankings.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 7 years ago

As long as Cincy stays in the top 25 that's great for us.

As for thinking that they are better than Duke....I doubt it, and I hate Duke.

Coach K's absence is hurting them no doubt.....they will likely go farther than Cincy in the NCAAT..imo anyway.

By the end of the season they will bounce back. NCAA champs as was predicted before the season? Probably not.

It is truly unusual for Duke to underachieve however. Injuries, the Allen mess.....

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 7 years ago

Limited action Tuesday night in the A-10:

Saint Joseph's at St. Bonaventure. 7 PM.

Duquesne at Davidson. 7:30 PM.

Only one game involving URI OOC opponents:

Tulane at Houston. 9 PM. On CBSSN.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

Yeah I expect sometime in February they'll really kick it up a notch when coach K is back.

Cinci is pretty much just beating teams they should beat.
10 straight wins.
They play Xavier Thursday. That will be a good one.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 7 years ago

Bubble teams are now 16-11 after last night

Last four bye Kansas State is at Iowa State at 9 on ESPNU
Last four bye Wake Forest is at Syracuse at 8
Last four in Pittsburgh hosts #13 Louisville at 7 on ESPNU
Last four in Marquette hosts #1 Villanova at 8 on FS1
Next four out Wichita State hosts Southern Illinois at 7 on CBS Sports

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

Y'all need to watch WVU Kansas right now.
Crazy intense game.
Great basketball!

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 7 years ago

Really really really could use UC winning the city battle and beating Xavier.
That would be very good for us, they are lacking a recent signature win and that would likely catapult them into the Top 15.

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 7 years ago

St. Joe's has great first half at Olean as they lead the Bonnies, 42-27.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 7 years ago

Louisville 74 Pittsburgh 27 with 14 minutes to go AT Pittsburgh??????

Pitt Home fans must be delirious.....

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 7 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote:
josephski wrote:Nice win by NC State, although that will probably bump them ahead of us in bubble talk.
You can maybe argue now that beating cinci was better than beating Duke...
As far as tournament resume goes.

One can make any argument they want...but...beating Cincy is/was not/will probably never be 'better than beating Duke.'
If resume evaluation for NCAAT was objective...maybe, but...Duke is in the ACC, Duke is Duke...and anyone that beats Duke...is in...end of story.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

ramster wrote:Louisville 74 Pittsburgh 27 with 14 minutes to go AT Pittsburgh??????

Pitt Home fans must be delirious.....

That's just insane....

St Joes surprising the Bonnie's. What would you expect out of the A-10 though?

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
PeterRamTime wrote:
josephski wrote:Nice win by NC State, although that will probably bump them ahead of us in bubble talk.
You can maybe argue now that beating cinci was better than beating Duke...
As far as tournament resume goes.
One can make any argument they want...but...beating Cincy is/was not/will probably never be 'better than beating Duke.'
If resume evaluation for NCAAT was objective...maybe, but...Duke is in the ACC, Duke is Duke...and anyone that beats Duke...is in...end of story.

Well yeah, but as far as our tournament resume goes, right now a win versus Cinci is actually better.
But yeah it would be a program milestone achievement if we beat Duke back in November.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 7 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote:
ramster wrote:Louisville 74 Pittsburgh 27 with 14 minutes to go AT Pittsburgh??????

Pitt Home fans must be delirious.....
That's just insane....

St Joes surprising the Bonnie's. What would you expect out of the A-10 though?

And Davidson laying it on Duquesne at the half 39-16!!!!

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 7 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote:
NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
PeterRamTime wrote:
You can maybe argue now that beating cinci was better than beating Duke...
As far as tournament resume goes.
One can make any argument they want...but...beating Cincy is/was not/will probably never be 'better than beating Duke.'
If resume evaluation for NCAAT was objective...maybe, but...Duke is in the ACC, Duke is Duke...and anyone that beats Duke...is in...end of story.
Well yeah, but as far as our tournament resume goes, right now a win versus Cinci is actually better.
But yeah it would be a program milestone achievement if we beat Duke back in November.

OK, logically, you might be right...but the selection process isn't bound by such a thing.
It's bound by complex scientific, highly complex formulas and ideas like...'Duke is Duke'...
...and if I had my druthers right now, I'd still take a win over Duke rather than Cincy.
Bearcats are having a nice year (in a mediocre conference but, unfortunately...Duke is...well...Duke...still.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 7 years ago

Louisville 95, Pitt 38 with 6 minutes left.....

Yeah, that's an NCAAT team alright......Pitt's a fraud.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 7 years ago

Pitt lost to Duquesne. Nuff said there.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 7 years ago

Can you lose 5 straight by an average of 20 per...and still qualify for fraud status?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 7 years ago

If Pitt makes the dance...it must be because the committee considered all the "alternate facts".

Like bad really is good...up must be down.......

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 7 years ago

Down 10 points with 5 minutes left, St. Bonaventure makes stirring comeback to beat St. Joe's , 67-63.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 7 years ago

Poor Martelli....not

We have to beat the crap out of them there.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 7 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:If Pitt makes the dance...it must be because the committee considered all the "alternate facts".

Like bad really is good...up must be down.......

Or...they beat Duke....

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 7 years ago

Not really a game of interest....but I love it when Kansas gets whacked....Huggy Bear puts the squeeze on Kansas, 85-69.

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 7 years ago

Duquesne falls to Davidson, 74-60. Saddled with a 23 point halftime deficit, the Dukes rallied in the second to cut the margin to 6 points with 5 minutes left in game, but could get no closer.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 7 years ago

Second worst loss in the history of Pitt basketball, that will certainly give every team behind them, including us, the chance to move up.

The were two reasons why I started posting the bubble games in games of interest. The first is obviously these are the schools that are our closest competitors for a tournament bid, so their results are very relevant to us.

But also I think it's very easy for us to get down when we lose or play poorly and I think it's been so long since we made the tournament that we've developed an elevated idea of what it takes to get in. I've been tracking this for about a week and bubble teams are 16-12. If you're a bubble team you're going to have good wins, but you're also going to have poor performances where you gut out a win and lose games you should win.

We all wish they lived up to the preseason ranking. They didn't, but they still have a good, realistic shot to do what we've been dying to see.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 7 years ago

Another interesting game, but not nec one of interest...Tennessee leads KY by 9 with 12 to go

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 7 years ago

Go Vols!
There's some parity in college basketball folks.

Pitt is still very much in the mix with wins against Marquette, Maryland and Virginia.
I'd still wager they don't make it.
They have some serious jeklye and Hyde stuff goin on.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 7 years ago

Not a good week for The Steel City. Wonder if any Pitt player was sending tweets from the lockerroom before this game?

PlayMikeMotenMore · Unread post by **PlayMikeMotenMore** » 7 years ago

Awful loss for Pitt. Margin of victory (or loss in this case) well echo on their resume. However, Pitt has something that URI does not...an outstanding road win AT MARYLAND, convincingly. Plus, win over Marquette on neutral court now looking better. Also beat UVA too.

That's 3 legit wins...1 on road, 1 on neutral court, 1 at home. URI does not have that.

Pitt has some bad losses but "more better" wins than URI. Plenty of season left...

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 7 years ago

Plus, Pitt has a shot at the ACC ticketpuncher...Duke. Beat Duke, you're in....

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 7 years ago

And therein lies the "hard" part...our margin of error is much slimmer, than a low/ mid-tier P5 school. We have less shots, we have to be more near perfect than them, that is what makes it hard(er) at URI.

I'm with the crowd that thinks we probably have to beat both VCU and Dayton to have a shot. Potentially with a run to the A10 finals that includes knocking off 1 of those 2 could cancel out losing to 1 in reg season.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 7 years ago

What a night in college hoops as 3 of top 4 teams go down

Zags will be #1 for 2nd time in school history

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 7 years ago

Pitt is 1-6 in their conference....good wins or not, there's no way they should dance with that kind of conference record at this point.

Yes the ACC is the best conference out there, but they will have to at least get much closer to .500 by the end of the season to get in.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 7 years ago

Bubble teams are now 18-14 after last night

Last four bye Kansas State lost at Iowa State 70-65
Last four bye Wake Forest lost at Syracuse 81-76
Last four in Pittsburgh lost at home to #13 Louisville 106-51
Last four in Marquette won at home against #1 Villanova 74-72
Next four out Wichita State won at home against Southern Illinois 87-45

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 7 years ago

Tonight in bubble action

Last four bye Miami hosts Boston College at 9
Last four in Texas Tech is at #5 Baylor at 8
First four out Georgia hosts Alabama at 9 on ESPNU
Next four out Illinois hosts Iowa at 9 on Big 10 Network

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 7 years ago

In addition to URI at Richmond game, 8 PM on CBSSN, other action in the A-10 includes:

George Washington at George Mason. 7 PM.

Penn at La Salle. 7 PM.

UMass at Saint Louis. 8 PM.

In games involving URI OOC opponents:

St. John's at PC. 6:30 PM. On FS1.

Holy Cross at Loyola (MD). 7:30 PM.

Belmont at Eastern Illinois. 8 PM.

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 7 years ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote:Bubble teams are now 18-14 after last night

Last four bye Kansas State lost at Iowa State 70-65
Last four bye Wake Forest lost at Syracuse 81-76
Last four in Pittsburgh lost at home to #13 Louisville 106-51
Last four in Marquette won at home against #1 Villanova 74-72
Next four out Wichita State won at home against Southern Illinois 87-45

PITT, what the HELL happened??

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