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Anybody hearing anything about the status of their injuries?
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In the coaches show Dan mentioned Hassan Had gotten some procedure done on Monday, but still had little idea on what his timeline would be.

Also said Thompson(knee) and Martin had started rehabbing on Monday, not sure which one we'd see back first.
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......sit both.....we should win the next two w/o them, before we start the A-10 schedule...no?
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section(105) wrote:......sit both.....we should win the next two w/o them, before we start the A-10 schedule...no?

Agreed. Even if they may be ready, sit them and rest them now for at least a couple of week, especially Hass.
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What was this 'procedure' done on Hassan?
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Need them for Dayton....not before.....

If we win our next 3, which we should at least, and then somehow beat Dayton...then this team has a pulse and an NCAA tourney bid is possible.....

If not, then forget it....that's the deal.....

I know I've said they're toast, but they have that chance........if they are ever going to win a big game.....

post Cincy of course....
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rambone 78 wrote:Need them for Dayton....not before.....

If we win our next 3, which we should at least, and then somehow beat Dayton...then this team has a pulse and an NCAA tourney bid is possible.....

If not, then forget it....that's the deal.....

I know I've said they're toast, but they have that chance........if they are ever going to win a big game.....

post Cincy of course....
I was so excited for your break :( what happened?
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I'm going back on break.....thanks for your support......
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Billyboy78 wrote:What was this 'procedure' done on Hassan?
He didn't specify, sounds like he wasn't even sure what it was. Keeps mentioning the injury is very rare for a basketball player.

I agree they shouldn't rush him back before the Dayton game. Need them for a stretch run. Next 4 games are winnable if we play even halfway to our potential.
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If either injury happens to be lingering and season ending... would they qualify for a medical red shirt, or have they played in too many games?
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Bos8 wrote:If either injury happens to be lingering and season ending... would they qualify for a medical red shirt, or have they played in too many games?
I think it's 30% or less of the team's games. They would both be under, but it doesn't sound like either is season ending.
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Bos8 wrote:If either injury happens to be lingering and season ending... would they qualify for a medical red shirt, or have they played in too many games?
You can't play in more than 30% of your team's games and get a redshirt.
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The player's injury has to occur in the first half of the season and the player cannot have played in more than 30 percent of his team's total games. Fractions are rounded up and postseason games count toward the total. If neither player played another game, it appears they could get a medical red-shirt assuming URI plays a few games in the A10 tourney and makes a post-season tourney, NCAA or NIT.
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They both played 8 games.....30% of 30 is 9...they're under......
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rambone 78 wrote:They both played 8 games.....30% of 30 is 9...they're under......
if neither plays again...season over.
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......anybody hearing anything on this?
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Hass will be back for Dayton. Not before.
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Blue Man wrote:Hass will be back for Dayton. Not before.
Is that a definite, Blue Man? It's expected that he'll be ready for Dayton?
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Blue Man wrote:Hass will be back for Dayton. Not before.
I'd prefer him to get one under his belt before Dayton but overall I'll take it
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He may come back with limited time against SLU and St. joes before taking on Dayton.
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What's the status with Thompson???? Is he a go for tomorrow?
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I also agree keep these guys out for a couple more weeks we should win these next 3 games
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So Dan just responded to Bill Koch's request for status on Thompson and Martin. Generally positive signs said Coach Hurley. He expects to know more on Monday.

For Thompson, it's a patellar type injury.

For Martin, two separate tears in the quadriceps group of muscles.

Thanks to Bill Koch for following up and specifically asking for a diagnosis!

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Whoa....Hassan shouldn't play until they are healed completely...come back too soon and that could be disastrous......
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Oh, Doom. Pretty sure Hass is getting professional, high-end medical care and advice. But maybe you stayed at a Holiday Inn last night?
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rambone 78 wrote:Whoa....Hassan shouldn't play until they are healed completely...come back too soon and that could be disastrous......
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Make fun of Rambone all you want,
but the injuries to Hassan, means he won't
be 100% all season.
Most players are dinged up to some extent during the season.
I do know about torn muscles.
I'm assuming it's a partial tear and not a complete tear.
That would require surgery, if that were the case.
I'm sure Hassan is getting the best therapy and care.
Tough kid, so he'll still be a force.
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Ugh we really need Hass at full strength hope for the best
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Rod, I know about torn muscles too, but obviously some of these guys don't......
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rambone 78 wrote:Rod, I know about torn muscles too, but obviously some of these guys don't......
Have you contacted the team yet to offer up your services and take a look at Hassan to provide the proper treatment? We need your expertise to make sure everything is being handled correctly.
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So what was the initial timeline that was estimated, 4-6 weeks? Have we heard if it's possibly longer than that or do we think Hurley has an idea of when Hass will be ready and just doesn't want to say?.

Just for where we're at right now it will be 3 weeks tomorrow since he got injured. Dayton game is just under 5 weeks of recovery if he plays. At 8 weeks of recovery he misses half the a10 season.
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josephski wrote:So what was the initial timeline that was estimated, 4-6 weeks? Have we heard if it's possibly longer than that or do we think Hurley has an idea of when Hass will be ready and just doesn't want to say?.

Just for where we're at right now it will be 3 weeks tomorrow since he got injured. Dayton game is just under 5 weeks of recovery if he plays. At 8 weeks of recovery he misses half the a10 season.
In last night's post game presser Dan mentioned that they received some positive news on the injury front. He did not say exactly what the positive news was but that they will know more on Monday. I take it to mean we see Hass back sooner rather than later.
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Good to hear. Hopefully he's back for the Saint Joe's game or Dayton at the latest.
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Throw in the towel this year, medical redshirt Hassan and then we're Elite Eight bound with the Core Four next year. :D :D :D
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Too late for a HM red-shirt.
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Rhody72 wrote:Too late for a HM red-shirt.
Nope, he played in 8 games. You have to have played in 30% or less of your team's games, which would be at least 9 games.
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I have a feeling Hassy will be back !!
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RoadyJay wrote:
josephski wrote:So what was the initial timeline that was estimated, 4-6 weeks? Have we heard if it's possibly longer than that or do we think Hurley has an idea of when Hass will be ready and just doesn't want to say?.

Just for where we're at right now it will be 3 weeks tomorrow since he got injured. Dayton game is just under 5 weeks of recovery if he plays. At 8 weeks of recovery he misses half the a10 season.
In last night's post game presser Dan mentioned that they received some positive news on the injury front. He did not say exactly what the positive news was but that they will know more on Monday. I take it to mean we see Hass back sooner rather than later.
So, today be Monday...any news?
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Billyboy78 wrote:
Rhody72 wrote:Too late for a HM red-shirt.
Nope, he played in 8 games. You have to have played in 30% or less of your team's games, which would be at least 9 games.
To apply for a medical hardship, the injury must be season-ending. You can't just decide that you want to try to maximize the next year and shut a player down because he'll miss another month. However, it is entirely possible with an injury like this that the player reaggravates it during rehab and does have to shut it down for the season, in which I believe a hardship waiver would be in play.
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Oh boy! Houston, we have our excuse...if Hass can't play the rest of this season!

Although we could sure use him NEXT year....seriously........If you listen closely, you can already hear the Hurley Hype Machine warming up......

Wait 'till next year....rinse, repeat

If the tears aren't completely healed and he reinjures himself after he comes back.....I doubt that hardship waivers are approved anymore, right?

Then we don't have him either way......
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We need him back or this season will get progressively worse. Hopefully we hear good news soon
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To apply for a medical hardship, the injury must be season-ending. You can't just decide that you want to try to maximize the next year and shut a player down because he'll miss another month. However, it is entirely possible with an injury like this that the player reaggravates it during rehab and does have to shut it down for the season, in which I believe a hardship waiver would be in play.[/quote]

Duke kind of did this with Amile Jefferson last year. Got injured in December and it was up in the air whether or not he'd come back all the way until late February when they finally announced he was out for the season.
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
So, today be Monday...any news?
I would expect an update at tonight's Coach's Show
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I think they are getting close boys and girls
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Sounds like both were limited at practice yesterday, but Hassan is at 90% and should be back earlier than the staff expected (mid January)
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Could really use him against Dayton. That's 10 days away so let's hope he's close enough to 100 percent by then.
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Hurley does seem particularly quiet about Thompson's recovery timeline in the coaches show. He's dealing with a patella issue, which I know firsthand is tough to get back from, but I hope he's not out too much longer than Hass.
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I want Hass to come back whenever he is ready to go... But I would love to see him on the court against St. Joe's... Their coach and that team of cheap shot artists makes my blood boil.
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Rest Hassan until Dayton. We SHOULD be able to get by these next two games without him.
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