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2016-2017 RPI watch

Postby Ramulous » 1 year ago

I am proposing a permanent thread....similar to "weekly games of interest" to track the RPI from all available sources as we make our way through this season.

I must leave it to the more technologically astute IT posters here to figure out how to do it...

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Postby Rhody Dude » 1 year ago

I think we moved about 100 spots up to 89 with that win
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 year ago

So you want to bookmark this page. Rhody jumped almost 50 spots with yesterday's win. Now 62

http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html
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Postby Blue Man » 1 year ago

I saw us at 62. Cinci is at 125. Charlotte is at 1. Way too early for rpi to be viable, but it'll be fun to watch come conference time.
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 year ago

Spot position is not indicative of how good a team is, but the probable end of season RPI that is forecasted is certainly useful guidance. That site will load yesterday's results soon and recalculate the forecast in a few hours.
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 year ago

So with the loss the rpi dropped back to 110, but that's not what matters. So early in the season the win loss %changes so much with each game we just went from 100% to 80% and took on Duke's present day win loss and their opponents' win loss.

What you want to watch later today is when the forecast page updates. You will see a jump in the predicted end or regular season rpi. You will know it is updated when it shows our current record correctly here: http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Rhode%20Island.html
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Postby RhowdyRam02 » 1 year ago

Expected RPI of 27
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Postby rambone 78 » 1 year ago

27 based on expected wins and losses the rest of the season.....wish it was that easy.....25 games left, some teams will get better, some will get worse.....I would take that though, right now!
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 year ago

Yes. It is the best guidance available for RPI. There will be some unexpected results of course.
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Postby Rhody83 » 1 year ago

RPI is useless early in the season. Elon is 6th, PC is 19th and Duke is 66th. Nough said
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Postby reef » 1 year ago

When we get in conf our RPI should get dragged down
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 year ago

Follow the expected RPI.
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Postby Ramulous » 1 year ago

That is why I would like this to be pinned or bookmarked at the top so we can follow the RPI as it moves after each game...
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 year ago

Expected RPI: 27.9
Today's RPI: 107
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Postby Ramulous » 1 year ago

Thank you ATP
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Postby URIGONZO » 1 year ago

My thinking is we should be paying very close attention to what Cincinatti does each game they play. They are going to be our marquee win of the year. Amy I crazy to be thinking like that? Or should we all be rooting very hard for them?
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Postby Shaolin Swat » 1 year ago

URIGONZO wrote:My thinking is we should be paying very close attention to what Cincinatti does each game they play. They are going to be our marquee win of the year. Amy I crazy to be thinking like that? Or should we all be rooting very hard for them?


The better Cincinnati looks, the better that win looks. In all likelihood, that will be the marquee win from our OOC schedule. I think pulling for Cincy the rest of the way will only continue to make that win look more impressive.
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Postby SmartyBarrett » 1 year ago

Another good link to check: http://natstat.com/mbb/team/rhode-island-rams/rpi

This also has the (reported) selection sheet that the NCAA Tournament committee uses.
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 year ago

Later in the season when each team is more closely slotted with their season-end RPI, that selection sheet will make more sense. Looking at it based of today's RPI ranks isn't so fruitful.

The Rhode Island page on RPIForecast includes the full schedule and shows expected RPI next to each opponent kind of like how KenPom does on his team pages.

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Rhode%20Island.html
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Postby RhowdyRam02 » 1 year ago

I really used to like natstat.com, but it's been terrible since their server got hijacked and they changed the format. An ugly site that is a mess to navigate and missing a lot of information that I really liked.
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 year ago

Yeah, agree. I miss the old BB State. It's the challenge in making a site mobile friendly. More of the old features are coming back one at a time. I look forward to the A10 vs other Conferences page.
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Postby RhowdyRam02 » 1 year ago

Expected RPI of 26.3 with an 84.56% chance of having an RPI of 35 or better.
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Postby reef » 1 year ago

That's what I am talking about sign me up for that
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Postby CT Rhody » 1 year ago

RPI up to 77 today per ESPN. Big jump from yesterdays 115 ranking.
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 year ago

Hate to sound like a broken record but present-day RPI doesn't mean anything. Just follow the expected RPI. As the season progresses, the expected RPI confidence will increase and the daily spot RPI will fall into alignment by selection sunday - the only day the spot RPI matters.
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Postby Ramulous » 1 year ago

In reality the RPI only matters if you are in a P5 conference....if not they look for ways to screw you even if you are 24 and a mid-major....
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 year ago

...and no respectable wins outside conference.
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Postby reef » 1 year ago

Agree things will start to take place with RPI in mid to late January now doesn't mean too much
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 year ago

This morning's RPI is 78, still trending towards Expected RPI of 27.6.

Because the probability of a win @ Valpo is such a toss up, Rhody's expected RPI will jump to approximately 21 with a win on Tuesday.
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 year ago

So instead of the hoped jump in our expected RPI from 28 to 21 with a Valpo win, we went the other way...

Expected RPI (entering A10 tournament): 36.3
Today's RPI: 59
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Postby RoadyJay » 1 year ago

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Down to 35.2. All is good in Rhody Nation

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Postby josephski » 1 year ago

Will be interesting to see how everything plays out. Those numbers look like a 10 seed to me.

For reference, Dayton ended up with a 7 seed last year with these numbers:
RPI: 21
OOC Record: 10-2
Record: 25-7 (including a10 tournament)
OOC SOS: 9
Overall SOS: 49
RPI 1-25: 0-3
RPI 26-50: 3-1
RPI 51-100: 6-1

Their other losses were to La Salle (232) and us (116).
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Postby rambone 78 » 1 year ago

That 8-4 OOC record looks likely....although win Saturday and we will have a great chance to better that....

21-9 would put us on the bubble with a 35 rpi......need a little better......
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Postby reef » 1 year ago

Yes need to do better than 21-9 and 13-5
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33.6 is nice... Must've been that great Cincy win!

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Postby reef » 1 year ago

Find it a bit hard if we go 21-9 and 13-5 that we will have an RPI of 33
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Postby rambone 78 » 1 year ago

reef, if we go 21-9 we will be on the outside looking in, like you said, we need to be at least a game or two better, and of course it matters who we beat and who we lose to....it never goes according to Hoyle.....

If we stay healthy we have 23-24 win talent......for every game we finish worse than that....it's on Hurley.....if he doesn't improve as a bench coach it's not likely to happen....
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Postby reef » 1 year ago

Yes I agree with that bone
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Postby UCH21377 » 1 year ago

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Postby RoadyJay » 1 year ago

reef wrote:Find it a bit hard if we go 21-9 and 13-5 that we will have an RPI of 33



A top 50 schedule with a 21-9 record and you don't think that translates to a 33 RPI?

Believe in math.
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Postby twisted3829 » 1 year ago

That would be 7 top 100 wins and 3 top 50 wins with those projections
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Postby UCH21377 » 1 year ago

If we don't win the A10 tourney, or regular season title, we don't belong. Don't care what our RPI is.
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Postby reef » 1 year ago

Need to do major damage in the A10 now hopefully 14-4 or better
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Postby ATPTourFan » 1 year ago

Through Saturday's games... later today I will update when it includes Sunday's games.

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Postby ramster » 1 year ago

UCH21377 wrote:If we don't win the A10 tourney, or regular season title, we don't belong. Don't care what our RPI is.


So if that happens and we still get a bid you are saying we should turn it down. Does that mean we should accept NIT or just look to next year?
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Postby UCH21377 » 1 year ago

Of course not. I admit that post was overly severe. But if we lose our games this week, we will need to win the A10, regular season or tourney, IMO.
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Postby reef » 1 year ago

If we don't win the A10 tourney or reg season title we better have 23 or more wins or it is pribably NIT
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Postby RhowdyRam02 » 1 year ago

It looks like 21-9 would do it. Play around in rpiforecast.com. Mark every game how they have us projected to do today, that makes us 25-5. So change the four games we're the smallest favorite in to losses (@ Davidson, Dayton, @ LaSalle, VCU) to get us to 21-9. Our projected RPI is 26. Now go the other way and start off at 25-5 but have us lose the games we're the biggest favorites in (Holy Cross, @ St. Louis, George Washington, Fordham) and our projected RPI is still 28. 21-9 looks to be the magic record.
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Postby Billyboy78 » 1 year ago

I don't imagine RPI takes injuries into consideration.
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