2016 NCAA Tournament Game Discussion

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Ramblinrose wrote:I don't see how PC being good helps URI at all, unless URI beats PC head to head. A rising tide doesn't lift all boats. Giants fan, your team hasn't made the playoffs in five years.
Yep...or, as Rhody hoop fan would say, 'seems like only yesterday' :lol:

They play every year...who 'wouldn't' enjoy it more if they were both ranked?
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Let's go Saint Joes!!!
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Very mixed feelings on Joes. I like upsets and I generally want to see A10 teams do well. On the other hand, fuck St. Joe's and fuck Phil Martelli.
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Completely agree but I like to think that the a10 doing consistently well in the tournament will gain us more respect so we don't end up with more teams like St Bonaventure not making the tournament.
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I'm rootin for joes. Go A-10 all the way
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PeterRamTime wrote:I'm rootin for joes. Go A-10 all the way
yep, fan of the game
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Yuck. Bembry bumbles.
This particular day had great games but the underdogs were eviscerated.
Lame!
Go Virginia!
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now that all a10 teams r out--its officially time to look towards next season!!
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And then there were none...

Can't say I'm upset about this loss, except they were our last team.
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Wow! That UNI collapse made our Stanford game
seem almost sane!
12 point lead with 40 seconds left, and they got
taken into OT.
Just God awful basketball, with UNI not being able to inbound the ball
three times, resulting in baskets for Texas A&M.
I doubt any of us has ever seen anything like that.
Those players, coaches and fans will see this in
their nightmares for years to come.
They were such a great story, as was Stephen F. Austin,
and the terrific Thomas Walkup.
Some great games this year. Wisconsin wining on a last
second 3 was great.
Can't beat March Madness!
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This was UNI's moment and it turned tragic beyond belief. Sad for their fans. Do they ever get this chance again?
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Despite valiant efforts by SFA and UNI, it is interesting to note that all the teams in the Sweet Sixteen are from P5 conferences with the exceptions being Villanova and Gonzaga and both of these are programs with some heft and experience.
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I'm sure the NCAA is thrilled that all of their cash cows won yesterday........

with maybe a little help from the refs in a couple of those games.....

I think it's going to just get tougher and tougher for mid majors to go deep into the tourney in the future.

It's not a level playing field, for sure.

There aren't very many Gonzagas out there....
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Obadiah wrote:Despite valiant efforts by SFA and UNI, it is interesting to note that all the teams in the Sweet Sixteen are from P5 conferences with the exceptions being Villanova and Gonzaga and both of these are programs with some heft and experience.
So perfect for the NCAA. They had some fun upsets in the early going, things to keep people watching with great underdog games, leading to a sweet 16 of P5 teams, a former national champion, and a team that has created its own rule with bracket busting.
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I thought VCU was incredibly poised to react the way they did to the ref job they got. Joes I think had a better shot from the refs than VCU or the last Joes tournament team. But my gosh that Oregon club gives no thought to walking or just generally out of control play.

Even that last Miles dive into the pile, Dorsey was on the ground and trying to stand up with the ball. Would have been a walk. Would the refs call it a walk if Miles doesn't dive in?? I doubt it.

Refs seemed to be good or at least not giving any team an advantage in Providence. That was good.
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What amazes me the most about this tournament is the madness is always guaranteed. It's incredible.
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Now Northern Iowa has to serve 16 years of purgatory for their loss.
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The fixation on this board about refs is simply amazing. Do you honestly think the NCAA and the refs are in cahoots about a block-charge call? Like they know what tough calls will happen in a certain close tournament game? Every close call that goes against a "small" team..."well obviously it must be the NCAA and the refs are working together to fix games to help the major schools." That's what Matt Painter, Tom Izzo, and Scott Drew are certainly saying, right?

By the way, the Northern Iowa collapse puts to shame the one URI had vs. Stanford. I used to think that Rhody had the worst collapse in the last 90 seconds of an NCAA game. Well, UNI took over the mantle on that distinction.
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Small consolation, that.....
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I don't think there are cahoots. I think refs are human and do call some games inconsistently to the point that it has an absolute effect on the outcome.
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Seawrightspostgame wrote:I don't think there are cahoots. I think refs are human and do call some games inconsistently to the point that it has an absolute effect on the outcome.
OK...agree. So why can't people leave it at that? Refs are human...calls are made and calls are missed...there has never been a perfectly officiated game.

Come to think of it...players are human...shots are made and shots are missed...there has never been a perfectly played game.

That's basketball. I don't know why people harp on imperfections. It's ALL part of the game.
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PlayMikeMotenMore wrote:
Seawrightspostgame wrote:I don't think there are cahoots. I think refs are human and do call some games inconsistently to the point that it has an absolute effect on the outcome.
OK...agree. So why can't people leave it at that? Refs are human...calls are made and calls are missed...there has never been a perfectly officiated game.

Come to think of it...players are human...shots are made and shots are missed...there has never been a perfectly played game.

That's basketball. I don't know why people harp on imperfections. It's ALL part of the game.
Although Bill Walton came pretty close...
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Billyboy78 wrote:
PlayMikeMotenMore wrote:
Seawrightspostgame wrote:I don't think there are cahoots. I think refs are human and do call some games inconsistently to the point that it has an absolute effect on the outcome.
OK...agree. So why can't people leave it at that? Refs are human...calls are made and calls are missed...there has never been a perfectly officiated game.

Come to think of it...players are human...shots are made and shots are missed...there has never been a perfectly played game.

That's basketball. I don't know why people harp on imperfections. It's ALL part of the game.
Although Bill Walton came pretty close...
Laettner against Kentucky I think made 20 out of 20 from the field and line and, of course, one of the biggest shots in NCAA history. That's pretty good. Refs are necessary but it does really stink that they have such an impact late. My biggest ref gripe is not when they miss something. That's human. It's when they sort of assume contact happened or the foul happened and it just never did. Who fouled Arthur Lee at the end of the Stanford game? Clay? That's so far from a foul but the ref just assumed he did because Lee spun a bit. Just be sure you see it. 100%. But refs do it all the time.
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i have repeated this on here before, but a fairly well regarded Div 1 ref said to me once, there are so many calls in college basketball games we get some wrong...went without saying that he was referring to the "make up" call or the phantom call to even the balance. The new make up call is the moving pick...they could call it on almost every play if they want to, but instead they randomly police it usually to make up for a mistake on other end. Iverson must have averaged 1 per game called against him.

That said, I agree with PMM that I do not see a conspiracy theory against URI or the small school team in the tourney...too much at stake for any of these refs to have an obvious prejudice or predisposition against either team.
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adam914 wrote:
TruePoint wrote:I honestly feel that if ISIS had a basketball team I would root for them against PC.
This about sums up my feelings perfectly.
Amen
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St. Joes is the team I would compare to an ISIS basketball team.

I mean, they tried to take Ki's and JG's head off.......
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Don't know where to put this...
Providence PF Ben Bentil will declare for the NBA Draft, but not sign with an agent, a source told Scout. Leaves option open to return.
1:02pm - 23 Mar 16
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Billyboy78 wrote:Don't know where to put this...
Providence PF Ben Bentil will declare for the NBA Draft, but not sign with an agent, a source told Scout. Leaves option open to return.
1:02pm - 23 Mar 16
Makes sense, with the new rules he can get a better idea of where he'd go in the draft and, if he doesn't like what he hears, can still return to school
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Yeah smart move for him.
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Better move for us, if he goes..... :P

If he's projected 1st round, I think he goes.
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rambone 78 wrote:Better move for us, if he goes..... :P

If he's projected 1st round, I think he goes.
As we know, a lot of teams draft on potential. He improved tons between his frosh and soph year, so a team that envisions the same type of progression might jump on him in the 1st round.
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Billyboy78 wrote:
rambone 78 wrote:Better move for us, if he goes..... :P

If he's projected 1st round, I think he goes.
As we know, a lot of teams draft on potential. He improved tons between his frosh and soph year, so a team that envisions the same type of progression might jump on him in the 1st round.
I think Reggie Miller said during an NCAA telecast words to this effect: "I hate to say it like this (put it this way), but Bentil is NBA-ready."
I sort of agree/disagree.
He needs more seasoning, more consistency, but the NBA and NCAA have changed the NBA Chicago Pre-Draft Camp rules/dates to give players like Bentil a more honest assessment of their legitimate 1st Round selection chances.
One more year and he'd be on a trajectory developmentally that perhaps Marvin Barnes was on between his sophomore and junior seasons -- less the rebounding.
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The thing about Bentil, is that he can shoot the 3 pretty well.

That part of his game [for his size] alone make him a prime prospect.

Also, having Dunn around to get him the ball can't be overlooked. Next season, even though BB might be asked to carry even a heavier load, it might not end as well, without that great PG around.

This might be the best time to go.....
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I actually kind of agree with Rambone. I don't think Bentil is really ready and could use another year, but on the other hand I wonder how his statistical output will be impacted by losing Kris Dunn? If he thinks there is a risk that coming back could hurt rather than help his draft stock, he should go. All year I felt the opposite, that it would be a little crazy for him to go after this season. A lot of that was just based on the suddenness of his emergence and thinking he might need to solidify or back up what he did this year with another good season before someone would use a high pick on him. But now looking back at the season he put together, it might be enough.
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TP, now that didn't hurt too much did it? Agreeing with me that is.

Actually I agree with your entire post too.

Weird.
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rambone 78 wrote:TP, now that didn't hurt too much did it? Agreeing with me that is.

Actually I agree with your entire post too.

Weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10hrOJkOxX0

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bressler3south wrote:
rambone 78 wrote:TP, now that didn't hurt too much did it? Agreeing with me that is.

Actually I agree with your entire post too.

Weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10hrOJkOxX0

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Nice to see that the Villanova-Miami game is being played at the Ryan Center!
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Villanova looks really good right now. Their shots are falling.

Their offensive efficiency numbers are outstanding.

I think we're going to see much more offense in this year's FF than we've seen lately.

Not too many grind it out defensive teams left. Wisconsin is that. Virginia too, but they can also score.

Wave of the future, with the new rules.

Dan: Take note...... :P
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Our 3pt shooting percentage was better than Nova this year. So there's that...
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I don't recall seeing that many empty seats at a regional.
Kansas looks like they have all the answers.
Villanova has a game that could give them trouble.
Dillon Brooks of Oregon. What a player!
Look back a few year on the recruiting site.
We supposedly were after him.
Don;t know if he'd have been the AA he is
in our guard-centric offense.
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Interesting how VCU played a much tighter game vs Oklahoma than A&M did ... something that likely very few people notice, but good for the A10.
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Stop! Rammer Time wrote:Interesting how VCU played a much tighter game vs Oklahoma than A&M did ... something that likely very few people notice, but good for the A10.
Styles make fights. Good nights and bad nights. I don't really believe in the transitive property in sports, so I don't think that means anything as far as the quality of VCU vis a vis A&M.
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Go 'cuuuuuuse!
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote:Go 'cuuuuuuse!
Boo to Syracuse and Boeheim. I've been vehemently rooting against them.
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Stop! Rammer Time wrote:
NYGFan_Section208 wrote:Go 'cuuuuuuse!
Boo to Syracuse and Boeheim. I've been vehemently rooting against them.
Orange!!!! WooooHoooooooooo!
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Cheater Boehiem and Syracuse. Barf!
Gonzaga and Wisconsin blew it down the stretch.
I was rooting for both, so the feeling at he end
was very familiar.
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How could anyone root for Syracuse, especially against Gonzaga?
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Been a 'cuse fan since making a visit there during the Coleman/Seikaly years.
First game I ever saw there was vs Louisville and Pervis (Never Nervous) Ellison....

If they can beat VA on Sunday...might be one of JB's best coaching jobs ever?
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Ha! URI beat that team in 1988
on the way to the Sweet 16.
Kenny Green personally destroyed Coleman.
Silk Owens outplayed Sherman Douglas.
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