NCAA or NIT 2016 Possibilities and 2016-2017 Expectations

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Obie, love the stats, but man 11-1 the rest of the way?

Only loss to Dayton on the road?

I know, you're just telling us what it would take.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 8 years ago

Are we STILL talking about an at large bid???

Please make it stop.

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

Yep, you are right I'm just saying what it will take to get the job done as of Jan 23 and our 3-3record. It's the reader's choice to assess the probability of that happening or something similar. My own feeling is we need to win it all in Brooklyn. Actually, that's a better possibility than URI going 11-1 the rest of the way to get to 14-4.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

If we could actually start to win some close games, especially later this season against the better teams, then I would have some hope of us doing some damage in NY.

I don't see it. As of right now, no chance.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

Obadiah wrote:Yep, you are right I'm just saying what it will take to get the job done as of Jan 23 and our 3-3record. It's the reader's choice to assess the probability of that happening or something similar. My own feeling is we need to win it all in Brooklyn. Actually, that's a better possibility than URI going 11-1 the rest of the way to get to 14-4.

Like the summary, thanks. While 11-1 is not likely to happen (no matter who they were playing)...it does look like they have the talent to do so. But, talent and results haven't exactly seen eye to eye so far. Winning it all in Brooklyn is probably more probable than going 11-1...but think that if they can win 20 and get to the final...there's still a possibility. (Will put on my helmet now

)

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 8 years ago

yup, put your helmet on fanboy. The at large discussion ended in November.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

11-8, even without EC, is atrocious. For the talent we supposedly have.

I hope we don't further embarrass ourselves by accepting a bid to the CBI after the conference tourney......

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 8 years ago

Obadiah wrote:The recent conference road losses have reduced the odds for URI chances to get an large NCCA invite, but has not yet eliminated it all together. Here is how it can be done:

Among Home and Home partners:
* Sweep home and home with UMass, La Salle, and Fordham gives us 6-0.
* Split home and home with Saint Joseph's and Dayton makes 8-2

Among Single Game partners:
* Win home games versus Saint Louis, Richmond, GMU, Duquesne makes record 12-2
* Road game losses to St. Bonaventure and GW - record at 12-4
* Win road games at VCU and Davidson- final record 14-4.

14-4 with a decent tourney performance gets URI a bid. Losses to either VCU and Davidson or both means no at large bid. Then URI has to grab the automatic bid by winning the A-10 tournament.

Did you run this through RPI Wizard? What did it show?

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 8 years ago

Doombone that is a good point. There should be a thread that protests Rhody fan's disdain for the CBI.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 8 years ago

When Wagner was 25-5 and got snubbed from the NIT, Dan didn't accept an invitation to the CBI. I highly doubt he accepts one this year.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 8 years ago

I hope Thorr learned from the last trip to the CBI it was not worth the effort. If you can't make the NCAA or NIT, you might as well shut it down. No one really cares about the CBI. The NIT today doesn't even generate much enthusiasm. Look at URI's recent home attendance numbers for the NIT and CBI. It is all about the NCAA these days. Continued trips to lesser tournaments with no NCAA trips in between do not excite fans.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 8 years ago

URI paid CBI $35,000 to get CFL his
precious 20 wins.
The Coach Baron Invitational netted a whopping
1,200 fans!
Does anyone think this year would be any different?
Say NO! to CBI or CIT!

skwalk47 · Unread post by **skwalk47** » 8 years ago

ATPTourFan wrote:
Obadiah wrote:The recent conference road losses have reduced the odds for URI chances to get an large NCCA invite, but has not yet eliminated it all together. Here is how it can be done:

Among Home and Home partners:
* Sweep home and home with UMass, La Salle, and Fordham gives us 6-0.
* Split home and home with Saint Joseph's and Dayton makes 8-2

Among Single Game partners:
* Win home games versus Saint Louis, Richmond, GMU, Duquesne makes record 12-2
* Road game losses to St. Bonaventure and GW - record at 12-4
* Win road games at VCU and Davidson- final record 14-4.

14-4 with a decent tourney performance gets URI a bid. Losses to either VCU and Davidson or both means no at large bid. Then URI has to grab the automatic bid by winning the A-10 tournament.
Did you run this through RPI Wizard? What did it show?

According to RPI Wizzard, one loss the rest of the way plus 2 wins in Brooklyn and a loss in the finals gets us to about #36, 2 losses gets us to ~ #43

Even with only one loss the rest of the way, if we lose in the second round in Brookyln we are looking at a 45+ RPI

At this point I would say we need both of the following to happen for a chance at an at large bid:
- A maximum 2 more regular season losses (10-2 or better)
- A minimum 2 wins in Brooklyn

Considering we are 11-8 with a past SOS that is easier than our upcoming SOS, I would say an at large is highly unlikely. If we are honest with ourselves, lets just say we have to win in Brooklyn. We can revisit this conversation if we win 6 of our next 7.

skwalk47 · Unread post by **skwalk47** » 8 years ago

BTW this isn't an NIT team, not unless they really turn things around 0-7 vs RPI top 100

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

This season needs to be put to bed.

They aren't going anywhere. Just home.

Sorry, sunshiners.

P.S. Can't wait for the road games coming up. The hose jobs will continue. Should be fun.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:This season needs to be put to bed.

They aren't going anywhere. Just home.

Sorry, sunshiners.

P.S. Can't wait for the road games coming up. The hose jobs will continue. Should be fun.

...said the one man Legion of Doom. Keep up the great work.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 8 years ago

At VCU, Dayton and Davidson are going to be absolutely brutal.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

208, I will. You can bet on that, so stop wasting your time responding to it.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:208, I will. You can bet on that, so stop wasting your time responding to it.

Attaboy!

Keatgsr07 · Unread post by **Keatgsr07** » 8 years ago

Ram78 - 208

Ten games left, lets set the o/u wins at 5.5. Bet against each other, loser makes a $30 donation to the forum?

Ramblinrose · Unread post by **Ramblinrose** » 8 years ago

Seriously, 208. Have you watched URI basketball for any length of time?

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

bracketmatrix.com has us as a 7 seed in the NIT traveling to Georgia Tech after yesterday's update:

http://bracketmatrix.com/nit

nycbuckets is seriously considering us after an update yesterday:

http://www.nycbuckets.com/2016/03/nit-b ... ch-1-2016/

steveystuds06 · Unread post by **steveystuds06** » 8 years ago

We win our last 2 win one in Brooklyn I think we are safely in the NIT field. Obviously we would have to play a tough road game but that would be good for our young guys.

RAM67 · Unread post by **RAM67** » 8 years ago

Interesting that there are 5 A10 teams in Bracketmatrix.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 8 years ago

RAM67 wrote:Interesting that there are 5 A10 teams in Bracketmatrix.

Unfortunately, for obvious reasons, it's the wrong bracket.....

RAM67 · Unread post by **RAM67** » 8 years ago

Very true.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 8 years ago

As always, the final NIT selections will be influenced by the one-bid conferences.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

NIT for us is still a longshot.

We know what happens when we start speculating about what it will take, etc. etc.

But of course, I'll bite.

Have to win our last 2, and 2 in NY. Do that, and we go. That's 20 wins.

I doubt it, but at least there's a chance.

Need CT back. That would help.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 8 years ago

After all that's happened this year I would like the NIT.

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 8 years ago

ESPN has us at RPI of 103, good for 7th in the A10 and nationally were ahead of some pretty good teams such as Marquette, Georgetown, and Arkansas, for comparison.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 8 years ago

We've already been advised by experts here on KBF that we aren't going .....

Move along nothing to see here these aren't the droids you're looking for

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 8 years ago

One thing to watch now is these lower conference tourneys, if the 1 seed does not win it they get an auto bid to the NIT

STC · Unread post by **STC** » 8 years ago

Who gives a shit about the Not Invited Tournament, do I need to remind you guys what this part of the board is called?

rhodywins · Unread post by **rhodywins** » 8 years ago

At the start of the season the NIT was something none of us wanted to hear. It is a different story now for two big reasons.
Experience- with three freshman and two Soph. playing big minutes. it would make a difference next year. Even one of the lower tournaments may be considered .
Recruiting- To be able to say we made the NIT with our two All conference players out and our point guard with a mask playing with a broken jaw may help in future recruiting.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

STC wrote:Who gives a shit about the Not Invited Tournament, do I need to remind you guys what this part of the board is called?

I'm going to guess...by the conversation and number of posts...quite a few people GAS?
Seems it would benefit the players and coaches and believe it or not, there are a fair number of fans that would still like to see another couple/few games. That it would chafe the "long time sufferers" is just a side bonus.

For now, though...no reason to even think about the NIT...unless they lose in Brooklyn.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 8 years ago

I GAS.

I assume the players give several shits. And they should, after all they've been through this year and given where we were a few weeks ago, making the NIT would be a good accomplishment for the rest of the season.

Nobody is forgetting the overall goal. Making the NCAA tournament. But barring a Brooklyn run, that ship has sailed. That doesn't mean that everything else is pointless.

STC · Unread post by **STC** » 8 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
STC wrote:Who gives a shit about the Not Invited Tournament, do I need to remind you guys what this part of the board is called?
I'm going to guess...by the conversation and number of posts...quite a few people GAS?
Seems it would benefit the players and coaches and believe it or not, there are a fair number of fans that would still like to see another couple/few games. That it would chafe the "long time sufferers" is just a side bonus.

For now, though...no reason to even think about the NIT...unless they lose in Brooklyn.

Not surprised at all at your sentiments, you are the biggest fanboy on this board after all. If second tier tournaments get you excited than more power to you.

If Rhody gets an invite and wants to play in the NIT, go for it. Another NIT bid doesn't move the dial for me at all.

I don't even think Rhody will get an invite.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 8 years ago

$10 NIT seats I'm in....

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

hrstrat57 wrote:$10 NIT seats I'm in....

I'll put us at 50-50 to make the NIT. We won't have a home game though.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

STC wrote:
NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
STC wrote:Who gives a shit about the Not Invited Tournament, do I need to remind you guys what this part of the board is called?
I'm going to guess...by the conversation and number of posts...quite a few people GAS?
Seems it would benefit the players and coaches and believe it or not, there are a fair number of fans that would still like to see another couple/few games. That it would chafe the "long time sufferers" is just a side bonus.

For now, though...no reason to even think about the NIT...unless they lose in Brooklyn.
Not surprised at all at your sentiments, you are the biggest fanboy on this board after all. If second tier tournaments get you excited than more power to you.

If Rhody gets an invite and wants to play in the NIT, go for it. Another NIT bid doesn't move the dial for me at all.

I don't even think Rhody will get an invite.

LOL...keep calling me 'boy'....makes me feel younger all the time, I need that. (Guessing you could probably use some, too

)

Seems clear that it's important for you to get consensus and declare that the season is a failure (asap)...just not sure why....?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

I'm going to wait until after Saturday's game to make odds on us making the NIT.

Lose, and we're out.

Win, and 2 wins in NY gets us in imo. That 2nd win would put our RPI in the 80 range I think.

Could come down to how much gas is left in the tank in the 2nd half of Friday's game, if we're in that situation of course.

We won't get a home game in any event, like RR said. Also a factor is how many at larges are available after the inevitable upsets in the conference tourneys.

ram1980 · Unread post by **ram1980** » 8 years ago

Nice game by Iverson.. Extremely active on both ends of the court.. Hope with more depth next year they can play more transition basketball.. Think Iverson will be even better in an up tempo game...UMass was pitiful.. That being said can't say I love the possibility of playing them next week.. Unless of course they play the selfish, undisciplined style they played tonight.. Then I say bring them on!!

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:I'm going to wait until after Saturday's game to make odds on us making the NIT.

Lose, and we're out.

Win, and 2 wins in NY gets us in imo. That 2nd win would put our RPI in the 80 range I think.

Could come down to how much gas is left in the tank in the 2nd half of Friday's game, if we're in that situation of course.

We won't get a home game in any event, like RR said. Also a factor is how many at larges are available after the inevitable upsets in the conference tourneys.

I'm thinking, win Saturday and 1 in Bklyn, gets a NIT bid (then again, I'm the crazy ignorant one

). Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. And I know that NIT wasn't the goal...but it is what it is...I want to keep seeing these guys play. But...not going to think about it unless they lose in Bklyn...

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Nice try, 208, but 1 win in NY won't get it done....simple RPI math.

Have to win that 2nd game to get the number down from around 95-100, to about 80.

Just hope Jared and Jarvis [especially him] can hold it together for a few more games.

The "supporting" cast is doing a great job helping out.

Fordham will not be any cakewalk. They are playing better, and at home they've been tough.

Our guys just have to pretend they [Fordham] are Dayton. That will do the trick.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:Nice try, 208, but 1 win in NY won't get it done....simple RPI math.

Have to win that 2nd game to get the number down from around 95-100, to about 80.

Just hope Jared and Jarvis [especially him] can hold it together for a few more games.

The "supporting" cast is doing a great job helping out.

Fordham will not be any cakewalk. They are playing better, and at home they've been tough.

Our guys just have to pretend they [Fordham] are Dayton. That will do the trick.

I guess we'll see...maybe (?) one in NY won't get it done, I really don't know - is that definitely the case? Am looking forward to seeing what it's like at Fordham... Within the next year or two, would like to get to all the A10 venues. And, for shorter term, looking forward to Brooklyn. I just know these guys have been enjoyable to watch and the shorter the time between the end of their season and the start of the Sox season (and, the Hanley Ramirez experiment, ugh...) the better

.

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 8 years ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote:
hrstrat57 wrote:$10 NIT seats I'm in....
I'll put us at 50-50 to make the NIT. We won't have a home game though.

Yep, that seems realistic to me, too.

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