Game 2: Valparaiso (Tuesday, Nov 17 10am)

Keatgsr07 · Unread post by **Keatgsr07** » 8 years ago

who's the fuck that's whistling

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 8 years ago

Maybe the worst foul call in the history of basketball on Iverson there. Thought it actually should have been a swim move called on Hernandez.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 8 years ago

Kuran just knocked down two free throws. It's a fucking miracle

Sweep The Leg · Unread post by **Sweep The Leg** » 8 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Maybe the worst foul call in the history of basketball on Iverson there. Thought it actually should have been a swim move called on Hernandez.

Just going to write that.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 8 years ago

Need a bucket here

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 8 years ago

Wow Jarvis almost ties the game there

skwalk47 · Unread post by **skwalk47** » 8 years ago

free throws...

skwalk47 · Unread post by **skwalk47** » 8 years ago

skwalk47 wrote:free throws...

I'm getting tired of saying this.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 8 years ago

What the actual fuck with the FT shooting?

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 8 years ago

Of course Peters with that fucking three!!! Goddddddd

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 8 years ago

Well at least I have the rest of the day off to sit around and be depressed!

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 8 years ago

What a disaster missing two FTs then leave their best player for a wide open three. Tough swing.

Sweep The Leg · Unread post by **Sweep The Leg** » 8 years ago

Every single f'n year, free throws.

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 8 years ago

Howl many points for Four?

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 8 years ago

Aaaaahhhhhh!
Holy crapppp!

Sweep The Leg · Unread post by **Sweep The Leg** » 8 years ago

Have the possession arrow. That's huge.

Surfri72 · Unread post by **Surfri72** » 8 years ago

Why did we foul?

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 8 years ago

Surfri72 wrote:Why did we foul?

Need more than four seconds

Surfri72 · Unread post by **Surfri72** » 8 years ago

Why? unless they hit a three if they score we are down three with enough time to go and hit a three

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 8 years ago

Here we go.

NJ03 · Unread post by **NJ03** » 8 years ago

got a feeling that was a miscommunication. Hurley didn't look pleased with the foul. made no sense.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 8 years ago

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckkkk that
Of course

Surfri72 · Unread post by **Surfri72** » 8 years ago

Nice way to butcher the end of the game

NY2Rhody · Unread post by **NY2Rhody** » 8 years ago

Gotta improve on free throw shooting. Exciting game, but I'm sick of "games we should have won."

NJ03 · Unread post by **NJ03** » 8 years ago

free throw shooting killed us. thought Four's first 3 was going in, it was right on line.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 8 years ago

Wow. I HATE losing, but I am absolutely not mad right now. I think this team showed incredible guts this morning. Giant marbles for this group. I'd love to have this game in my back pocket, but I am more encouraged than I was before the game tipped that we are going to be OK.

Micheal_Phelps_22 · Unread post by **Micheal_Phelps_22** » 8 years ago

NJ03 wrote:got a feeling that was a miscommunication. Hurley didn't look pleased with the foul. made no sense.

He was screaming for them to foul on the sidelines. There was only a 3 second time differential. Valpo could have shot it with a second left on the shot clock and by the time Rhody rebounds it theres only a couple seconds left to launch a prayer

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 8 years ago

Surfri72 wrote:Why? unless they hit a three if they score we are down three with enough time to go and hit a three

Or they miss and the ball gets knocked around and the horn goes off before you get your hands on it again. 100% have to foul in that situation, and probably up until their is about an 8 second differential.

Keatgsr07 · Unread post by **Keatgsr07** » 8 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Wow. I HATE losing, but I am absolutely not mad right now. I think this team showed incredible guts this morning. Giant marbles for this group. I'd love to have this game in my back pocket, but I am more encouraged than I was before the game tipped that we are going to be OK.

Not being contentious, but we're going to be ok in what sense?

Micheal_Phelps_22 · Unread post by **Micheal_Phelps_22** » 8 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Maybe the worst foul call in the history of basketball on Iverson there. Thought it actually should have been a swim move called on Hernandez.

Even worse considering they called a foul on him for the EXACT SAME MOVE earlier in the game. Huge momentum swing

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 8 years ago

Keatgsr07 wrote:
TruePoint wrote:Wow. I HATE losing, but I am absolutely not mad right now. I think this team showed incredible guts this morning. Giant marbles for this group. I'd love to have this game in my back pocket, but I am more encouraged than I was before the game tipped that we are going to be OK.
Not being contentious, but we're going to be ok in what sense?

22-24 wins, compete for the league title and a tournament berth.

Rhodyhooopz · Unread post by **Rhodyhooopz** » 8 years ago

I said it Friday. The key to the rest of the season is going to be Iverson. I thought today he took a bunch of bad shots forcing things but I think in the long run he will be fine. First gams since the injury and a game they should have won against a very good opponent. Need to tread water right now until Dan has some time to get practicing with new roles. Iverson reminded me of Lamar in his first few games.

NJ03 · Unread post by **NJ03** » 8 years ago

I guess that makes sense. tough loss to swallow. not upset with the team at all. they played hard and battled til the buzzer. I'm still upset at the 'situation' in general. seeing EC on the sidelines in crutches and being interviewed mid game made me sick to my stomach. I guess i'll get used to it, just not easy to see now.

Keatgsr07 · Unread post by **Keatgsr07** » 8 years ago

TP, I want nothing more than the Rams to be a great team. I hope you're right.

I need someone with more basketball IQ than I have to explain how we're going to compete on par with last season with no threat off the dribble? I despise eternal pessimists, I'm not trying to be pessimistic, I'm asking an honest question?

15 Year Lurker · Unread post by **15 Year Lurker** » 8 years ago

They need to just run Four off screens all day Dana Barros style. He is by far their best player and should have had way more shots. Even his misses are in.

Three quarters of the high school teams in this state would have a better free throw percentage out there. Not going to win many close games if that's going to repeat all year.

kal-65 · Unread post by **kal-65** » 8 years ago

35% FROM THE FLOOR; 55% FT---DOESN'T WIN MANY GAMES

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

4881 announced attendance

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 8 years ago

This team is gelling like oil and water. I hope they dust off the rust soon. and FREE THROWS.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 8 years ago

The best feeling I have after that is that we barely lost to a team who's going to win close to or more than 30 games. We have enough talent to beat most teams we're going to play, it just may be hard for us because we won't be able to pull away against many of them.
Four looks like the only guy who has any offensive IQ.
Scratch and claw.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Caught the end on my lunch break.

If we don't shoot FT's better we will lose most close games to good teams.

Simple as that.

Hope the new guys shoot them better next season. Most of the guys we have now don't have a clue, sorry to say.

Thought they would work on them this summer. Obviously not......

Sweep The Leg · Unread post by **Sweep The Leg** » 8 years ago

Keatgsr07 wrote:TP, I want nothing more than the Rams to be a great team. I hope you're right.

I need someone with more basketball IQ than I have to explain how we're going to compete on par with last season with no threat off the dribble? I despise eternal pessimists, I'm not trying to be pessimistic, I'm asking an honest question?

I think you have 2 players who can create off the dribble in JG and JT. JT needs to realize he is built like a moose and should stop trying to avoid contact at the rim, but absorb it and finish the bunnies.

I think maybe you remove Hassan from the high post and place him down low more. He showed some good moves on the block today. Play Earl more and set more screens for Four.

Hitting your free throws always makes your offense look better.

rhodylaw · Unread post by **rhodylaw** » 8 years ago

That is our game if we hit fucking free throws - how is possible that we are that bad. And it's not jus the "bigs" on the team. Awful. I do think this will sort itself out quickly and thank god we have Four on the roster this year. Hopefully DH takes note and sees how important outside shooting is in college basketball and can cover up a lot of mistakes. We should have at least one guy like four on the roster every year, because almost every team we face does.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 8 years ago

Couple quick thoughts from s 213 today.....

-4 needs 10 shots a game including 7 three point attempts. We are running set plays for him which is good. Walker might be the best defender he goes against all season. Clearly Hurley sees him as the new toy and intends to use it. I believe he is going to have a couple of 30 point games.

-Iverson is feeling jitters and is a bit slow to attack. He looks over his shoulder at the bench all the time. Turn him loose and he will be an absolute beast, a matchup nightmare.

-In response to above - Iverson and Terrell are both strong attackers off the dribble as is Garrett.

-Fernandez, Walker and Peters are as strong a trifecta of talent as we will see all year. Drew can coach too. Paid attention to dad I guess! Team has sweet 16 again written all over it.

-Supreme effort for 40 minutes by all.

Play this game again we win by 10......on to Cleveland State.

Surfri72 · Unread post by **Surfri72** » 8 years ago

attendance was really good considering the time of the game

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 8 years ago

Team had played 8 officiated games already! Makes me feel even better about our effort and the compete level we displayed in this game.

http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketba ... ktn_3arSCg

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Jarvis and Terrell just HAVE to get better at FT's.

Hassan is at 33% for the season so far. Earl not much better.

This is what we have.

This team could still be a threat to Dance, but....

70% FT's today wins the game.....

What a shame. With EC, we win this game even with the putrid foul shooting......

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 8 years ago

Keatgsr07 wrote:TP, I want nothing more than the Rams to be a great team. I hope you're right.

I need someone with more basketball IQ than I have to explain how we're going to compete on par with last season with no threat off the dribble? I despise eternal pessimists, I'm not trying to be pessimistic, I'm asking an honest question?

We may not score a lot more points than last year, but we should be able to grind teams down in a very similar fashion. You still have an excellent nucleus in Hass, Jared and Jarvis who are all a year better, and you're throwing into it some guys who aren't as talented as EC but who do certain things really well.

Beyond the obvious facts that all loses are tough, I think anyone really down on this team for losing this game (1) doesn't appreciate how good Valpo is and (2) doesn't get how much adjustment there will be to playing without EC from a basketball standpoint, never mind the emotional hangover involved.

luke · Unread post by **luke** » 8 years ago

Looking at this team objectively, they show me the exact same problems they had last season. They cannot shoot a jump shot, except McGlynn.
They can't shoot free throws, except McGlynn. They throw a lot of sloppy passes. They play fantastic defense and their defensive intensity is
remarkable. They give a full effort on defense. On offense they are able to get plenty of makeable shots, but they can't make them. Unless they
improve their shooting it is going to be a long season. This game resembled the Nebraska game from last season except they weren't able to pull
it out. If the shooting and free throw shooting don't improve immediately, the Rams will be fortunate to go 19-12. I was encouraged by the
defensive effort, but that encouragement was completely offset by the incredibly bad shooting and I'm afraid it may continue all season.

URI_IEP · Unread post by **URI_IEP** » 8 years ago

I view this game almost as an exhibition game. You can throw out any analysis of the result or player performances. This was a weird game time-wise, and the whole team was on an emotional roller coaster for the past 4 days. I think the Cleveland St and TCU games will be much better indicators of where/who we are.

15 Year Lurker · Unread post by **15 Year Lurker** » 8 years ago

Valpo killed Iona. And Iona is actually very talented so maybe a little encouraging first game without EC. Free throws still unreal

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