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That feels about right based on how we look on paper. Only A10 team listed, no PC (if they have Dunn I would put them in that 20-30 range).
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Love seeing us on that list!
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Lunardi has URI as a 9 and playing Butler in today's bracketology for next year. The only A10 team he has higher is Dayton. He also has VCU in as a 12.
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Jeff Goodman on ESPN has them as a 6.
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I'll gladly take this! If we're already getting recognition right after this season ended, we're going to be getting a lot more next fall. Can't wait!
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http://espn.go.com/blog/jeff-goodman/in ... st?id=5033

Too low. I disagree with much of his list but certainly for us. URI isn't 19 slots worse than Dayton.

Miami at 42? Awful.
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Can someone post the list for us non insiders?
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Great! As '72 always said, this is the best time of year to be a URI fan.
Rankings?Brackets? Seeds? Really?
We have seven new players to blend with our core4.
We lost our best off the bench spark. Maybe he can be replaced
by more talented kids? Maybe.
We lost Gilvydas, who as erratic as he was at times, is head and shoulders
better than his supposed replacement.
So, let's not run of half-cocked about seeding and rankings.
There's a lot of work to be done first.
Newbies need to find their roles. Sometimes that's not easy.
It's nice to think of these rankings etc. Let's see how it plays out,
before putting the cart before the horse.
Remember Goodman and Rothstein had us as one of the most
improved teams a couple of years ago. We didn't break .500.
Granted, we have a better base this season, but patience before
we see the product and how it comes together, first.
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rodfromcranston wrote:Great! As '72 always said, this is the best time of year to be a URI fan.
Rankings?Brackets? Seeds? Really?
We have seven new players to blend with our core4.
We lost our best off the bench spark. Maybe he can be replaced
by more talented kids? Maybe.
We lost Gilvydas, who as erratic as he was at times, is head and shoulders
better than his supposed replacement.
So, let's not run of half-cocked about seeding and rankings.
There's a lot of work to be done first.
Newbies need to find their roles. Sometimes that's not easy.
It's nice to think of these rankings etc. Let's see how it plays out,
before putting the cart before the horse.
Remember Goodman and Rothstein had us as one of the most
improved teams a couple of years ago. We didn't break .500.
Granted, we have a better base this season, but patience before
we see the product and how it comes together, first.
get a life
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Really, empty barrel? How about those nasty Italians from Providence.
all being PC fans? What was your word for us? Goombas?
Only morons use that word, which isn't even an Italian word.
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rodfromcranston wrote:Great! As '72 always said, this is the best time of year to be a URI fan.
Rankings?Brackets? Seeds? Really?
We have seven new players to blend with our core4.
We lost our best off the bench spark. Maybe he can be replaced
by more talented kids? Maybe.
We lost Gilvydas, who as erratic as he was at times, is head and shoulders
better than his supposed replacement.
So, let's not run of half-cocked about seeding and rankings.
There's a lot of work to be done first.
Newbies need to find their roles. Sometimes that's not easy.
It's nice to think of these rankings etc. Let's see how it plays out,
before putting the cart before the horse.
Remember Goodman and Rothstein had us as one of the most
improved teams a couple of years ago. We didn't break .500.
Granted, we have a better base this season, but patience before
we see the product and how it comes together, first.

Agree, while we tend to get wrapped up in this kind of thing during a slow period, we are a long way from the beginning of the season. We are really talented, but I don't want to get too caught up in rankings that have no basis once the season starts.
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PeterRamTime wrote:Can someone post the list for us non insiders?
ESPN generally frowns upon this, to the point of getting litigious at times about it. So, we typically don't allow copy-paste of their content.
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Good one, Rod.

Agree with those who say we have to see how it all comes together, before setting a date for the parade.
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As a fan, you can choose to get wrapped up in it or not but know that the program gathers every little bit of this good press for recruiting purposes. It's not a coincidence that Akele, for example, talked about expectations for this program being at the top of the conference and making the tournament.
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Of course. Success breeds success. Once we Dance, things will get even better on the recruiting front.
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My point is that hype has its place- more for the guys you want than the guys you already have. Coaches can go on and on about where they think the team is headed. It doesn't mean a thing until they do it, but national press to support what a coach is selling is a good thing. Dan's comfort level as a coach, though, is more to downplay expectations and then go out and beat a team by 20.
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As for predictions, right now I'd say we're a solid top 50 pick.

Of course, with the uncertainties involving so many new players, we could be as high as top 25, or possibly even out of the top 50. The latter isn't likely though, imo anyway.

We know what we have with the core 4. We really don't know what we have with the new players, although there is certainly more upside than what we had last season.

Those new players will determine just how successful next season will be. Just how talented are they, and how will they fit in?
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Hey, process-poster: Knock-off the nonsense. Rod made his points, Ace made her points. The Martial Artist did, Rambone, 15, postgame, and others.
The only one drawing attention to anyone is you.
Pathetic as it is.

(Yeah, and that's from me.)
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I see Iverson as the key to many things.
IF he wins his appeal, that's big.
With his ability added to the Core 4, you could sustain
growing pains by the newcomers. It gives a solid starting five, not to
mention he's 6'9" and his 7 foot wingspan should be useful on defense.
Of course, Terrell and Martin need to avoid the foul problems that plagued them
during the last part of the season.
Four is a seasoned player, so maybe he'll add some stability.
I'm sure Dan will be mixing and matching during some of the lesser
opponents games.
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The thing about shuffling rosters is it is common place. Best coaches make the most out of right-now.

Dayton looked like a completely different team without Sibert, now hes gone so?

I think all 4 kids come back better to include a healthy Watson that I think can certainly produce more than Gil. Its not a tall order. If he can't, all of the bigs can replace whatever he averaged. Gil/TJ leadership vacuum is naturally not a problem with EC/Hassan--->Jared T. Lots of leadership in that lockeroom.

All the newcomers probably will do best by working as hard as possible and maintaining a good attitude of helping the team in any way possible.

Iverson is the man. We all now watch in anticipation to see if he makes good on it.

Good health will help these kids also.
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Lots of ifs, ands, or Butts......ha
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rodfromcranston wrote:I see Iverson as the key to many things.
IF he wins his appeal, that's big.
With his ability added to the Core 4, you could sustain
growing pains by the newcomers. It gives a solid starting five, not to
mention he's 6'9" and his 7 foot wingspan should be useful on defense.
Of course, Terrell and Martin need to avoid the foul problems that plagued them
during the last part of the season.

Four is a seasoned player, so maybe he'll add some stability.
I'm sure Dan will be mixing and matching during some of the lesser
opponents games.

I tend to believe that the late season foul trouble was a result of fatigue more than anything. Having more quality depth this year should allow DH to keep guys fresh throughout the season and, hopefully, allow them to play the same tenacious defense without getting tired towards the end of the year.
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bressler3south wrote:Hey, process-poster: Knock-off the nonsense. Rod made his points, Ace made her points. The Martial Artist did, Rambone, 15, postgame, and others.
The only one drawing attention to anyone is you.
Pathetic as it is.

(Yeah, and that's from me.)
awww, did i hurt your poor little feelings? You gonna go dry Rod's tears for him?


ftr, pre-season hype is a pretty big part of getting an at large. You're resume gets looked at in a favorable light if you are considered one of the "in" teams. Its a much tougher road to push your way into the conversation in season.
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That's funny. As if pre season hype mean jack shit for the
selection committee.
Absolutely asinine.
It's RPI, SOS, and the formula that gets teams into the NCAAs,
not some writer's praises.
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All press is good press in this case, not sure what we are arguing. Would people prefer we not be mentioned in preseason polls?
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My point, which seems lost on some, was simply,
take all the hype with a grain of salt.
Remember Nebraska was a top 20 team in all the polls
last year. Florida was a top 5 team.
All the written words in the world are meaningless once
the opening tap happens.
Yes, it's nice to be noticed. It doesn't translate into anything
on the court.
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Of course not, but to Ace's point it translates to things off the court -- coaches see this, recruits see this, getting buzz is a good thing.
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Da_Process_Survivor wrote:
bressler3south wrote:Hey, process-poster: Knock-off the nonsense. Rod made his points, Ace made her points. The Martial Artist did, Rambone, 15, postgame, and others.
The only one drawing attention to anyone is you.
Pathetic as it is.

(Yeah, and that's from me.)
awww, did i hurt your poor little feelings? You gonna go dry Rod's tears for him?


ftr, pre-season hype is a pretty big part of getting an at large. You're resume gets looked at in a favorable light if you are considered one of the "in" teams. Its a much tougher road to push your way into the conversation in season.
process-boy: If you stopped trying to push your way into the conversation with the personal attacks, your resume would be looked at in a more favorable light…...
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If Texas and OK State were not mentioned at the beginning of the year as teams to watch, and if their names weren't Texas and OK State, would they have gotten in Their records were awful for a tourney teams, and yea they played a tough schedule, but did they beat any of those good teams? Rarely. I absolutely agree it is good to mentioned in these polls and talked about, and it is harder to make your way into the field if you are on the "outside" of these polls, rather than "in."
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You're talking about P5 teams with pretty good traditions
of making the NCAAs. OSU had gone to 28 NCAAs, and Texas 32 NCAAs.
It's the same as UCLA making it last year.
Those are "name" schools, who get a pass based on who they
are and the conferences they play in.
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If you want a good laugh you can head over to Friartown where they have a thread about Larrier transferring to UConn....what is amazing is that there are a decent number of their fans who truly believe PC is on the same planet as UConn. They haven't won a game in the tourney since 97 and UConn has won 4 national championships in that time. But apparently a couple of more good recruiting classes and they will be neck and neck. The next billboard they put up on 95 should read "Where Ignorance and Hubris Know No Bounds, Welcome to PC"
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I like the one that says in 10 years or so, they'll be even.
So, PC will win 4 NCAAs in the next decade? Wow!
Their obsession with UConn is just mind blowing.
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DPS you're embarrassing yourself, someone makes some decent suggestions about expectations and patients you quote the whole thing never addressing a single talking point and only attacking the writer with a blanket insult, that's what we think of as trolling. At least pretend to touch on a talking point, don't be a bird that can't fly you turkey.
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rodfromcranston wrote:My point, which seems lost on some, was simply,
take all the hype with a grain of salt.
Remember Nebraska was a top 20 team in all the polls
last year. Florida was a top 5 team.
All the written words in the world are meaningless once
the opening tap happens.
Yes, it's nice to be noticed. It doesn't translate into anything
on the court.
I actually think almost everyone gets your point and mostly agrees. I would argue, though, that hype can indirectly lead to on the court things if it helps to get players. It's not the most important thing but being part of a national basketball conversation is good. Now, they have to play it out.
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So what you're saying acey, is hype can help overall program image and affect recruiting, I agree. I also agree with the caution those of us close to the program are exhibiting so as not to be disappointed when we don't go 31-0. So I think we are saying hype is good press, but our core fans realize it takes work to get everyone on the same page when there is a good amount of turnover on the roster.
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Running Ram wrote:So I think we are saying hype is good press, but our core fans realize it takes work to get everyone on the same page when there is a good amount of turnover on the roster.
Of course. Those are not opposing viewpoints. My concern is less about mixing in the new guys and more about having the new guys meet expectations and deliver what the staff thinks they're getting in them.
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Isn't that all the same? If the new players are not up to expectations,
it shortens the rotation.
If they are as advertised, that lengthens the rotation.
Either way, it's a learning curve for staff and players, which will
take time.
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If mixing the new guys in is referring to solely chemistry, that's not much of a concern to me. It's more, they need x, y, and z from the 5th starter and bench, and it can come from as few or as many guys as needed. The optimal is both- more guys producing above what is expected, but that's not the reality you can start with. They have ideas about who may pick up the system quicker than others and are allowing for different lengths of time for development, including looking beyond the upcoming season.

They return their top four minutes guys and four of their top five scorers (Biruta came in 4th, right ahead of Garrett). That's 57% of the minutes and 64% of the points from a fairly successful team and includes two second-team all conference players and an all-rookie selection. It's not a small task at all to fill in the gaps, but they're starting with a more than solid base and a lot of options. It's a challenge, but it's an exciting one for the staff.
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Yea reality is returning the 4 key contributors is about as much as most of the NCAA could hope for on any team.

The teams that are veteran laden are less prevalent. Its all about the programs/coaches that get more out of new guys and young guys.
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rodfromcranston wrote:I like the one that says in 10 years or so, they'll be even.
So, PC will win 4 NCAAs in the next decade? Wow!
Their obsession with UConn is just mind blowing.

I think you may be refering to this quote "Maybe 10 years from now we can claim to be the number 1 program in the region" says nothing about being even. So leave it to you to turn the post to something completely different then to what the poster was trying to say. There are several UConn posters that go over to that board regularly to bust balls which starts a lot of the UCONN hating .If they came over here doing the same thing I doubt the URI faithful would just take it lying down.
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I''m sorry. Number ONE means not even, but better than.
Now, tell me where I twisted anything.
None of us post on the Scout board, yet I read plenty of
negative comments about URI.
It's the nature of a rivalry. Not sure where I see UConn
as a logical rival, but if that's how people feel, so be it.
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rodfromcranston wrote:I''m sorry. Number ONE means not even, but better than.
Now, tell me where I twisted anything.
None of us post on the Scout board, yet I read plenty of
negative comments about URI.
It's the nature of a rivalry. Not sure where I see UConn
as a logical rival, but if that's how people feel, so be it.
There are plenty URI fans that post on the PC board. They just don't use the same handle, funny how after the loss to Dayton there happened to be all these new posters coming over busting with like one or two total posts . And no I know you were not one of them I give you credit for that. But if you really believe there are no URI fans going over there posting under different handles lets just say I have some swamp land in Florida I can sell you.I also disagree with your premise of number one meaning past history.
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Those were all Xavier fans who came by after your loss to Dayton. There are NOT plenty of URI fans posting there.
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ATPTourFan wrote:Those were all Xavier fans who came by after your loss to Dayton. There are NOT plenty of URI fans posting there.

Please tell me why all of a sudden Xavier fans would be trashing PC. Even if they were they would not be disguising themselves as PC fans. They were URI fans and I am sure some PC fans would probably being doing the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot unfortunetly.
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I guess we better get ready for the onslaught of trolls. Because the shoe is on the other foot.
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Why WOULDN'T Xavier fans be trashing PC. Why wouldn't ANYBODY trash PC?
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