Four McGlynn Tranfers to URI from Towson

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

bigappleram wrote:in all fairness, their smarter posters know we will be good.

Wow -- a board of one!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 9 years ago

Not sure why this is an either/or proposition. We all like the trajectory of the program but the reality is that the win total was probably a little misleading. We basically lost to any team worth a lick. Richmond on the road was a good win but then you are scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for many others. Umass? This team has massive upside. And I don't say that lightly. But there are holes that KILL college teams. The staff just did a nice job spackling over one of the them. Let's knock the other one or two out and I'll pencil in a sweet 16 trip. Or better.

NJRhodyFan · Unread post by **NJRhodyFan** » 9 years ago

I agree that we desperately need a big (or two) to round out the current roster and get us over the proverbial hump, but I also think it's fair to recognize that we addressed another major need by acquiring a solid outside shooter. Let's be honest, we didn't have one of those on our team this season. EC had his moments, JT and JG hit the occasional trey, but we didn't have anybody that was a consistent threat. Maybe McGlynn is that guy? I sure hope so. Either way, I think our roster is in better shape than it was, assuming Iverson is able to match (or hopefully exceed) Biruta's production in the short term. TJ graduating is the biggest loss in my opinion. His intensity and hustle was infectious, and it will be difficult to replicate that type of leadership, but I have confidence in these guys. My guess would be that JT steps into that role next season -he seems to be that type of player.

Either way, I'm already pumped for next season. Let's hope Dan and crew bring in that elusive big man and keep the train a rollin'!

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 9 years ago

It is an easy sell to a big man to come play in Kingston and be the difference maker.....My fear is there ain't no decent bigs out there but I trust the staff to locate what we need and deliver. A knock down shooter on a one year deal is a nice get, but we have no size except for Iverson and he is billed as a wing player.

We need a good player down low and it is critical that we fill those shoes for next season.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 9 years ago

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 9 years ago

I am particularly interested in seeing Iverson passing to open players. At 6'9" he can see over virtually all defenders and make passes that we did not see much of this past season. I expect to see him at the foul line against a zone and be very effective in all respects.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 9 years ago

One of the knocks Rod has brought up is how will McGlynn's numbers translate to a higher level of competition, so here are his numbers for all A10, Power 5, and the 2 NCAA games he participated in:

Freshman year at Vermont : 24 minutes per game, 8.7 points per game, 25% from 2, 23% from 3, 90% from the line, 2.7 rebounds per game, 1.4 assist to turnover ratio
12/7/11 at St. Louis - 21 minutes, 2 points, 0-5 from 2, 0-2 from 3, 2-2 from the line, 1 defensive rebound, 2 assists.
3/14/12 against Lamar, NCAA play in game - 27 minutes, 18 points, 2-4 from 2, 3-5 from 3, 5-6 from the line, 3 defensive rebounds, 3 assists.
3/16/12 against UNC - 24 minutes, 6 points, 2-7 from 2, 0-6 from 3, 2-2 from the line, 1 offensive and 3 defensive rebounds, 2 assists, 5 turnovers.

Sophomore year at Towson: 24.3 minutes per game, 8 points per game, 20% from 2, 31.6% from 3, 80% from the line, 2 rebounds per game, .5 assist to turnover ratio, .7 steals per game.
11/17/13 at Villanova - 24 minutes, 6 points, 0-1 from 2, 2-7 from 3, 3 defensive rebounds, 1 assist, 2 turnovers.
11/22/13 at Kansas - 22 minutes, 6 points, 0-1 from 2, 2-6 from 3, 0-1 from the line, 2 defensive rebounds, 2 steals.
12/18/13 at Oregon St. - 27 minutes, 12 points, 1-3 from 2, 2-6 from 3, 4-4 from the line, 1 defensive rebound, 1 assist, 2 turnovers.

Junior year at Towson: 32 minutes per game, 14.5 points per game, 44.4% from 2, 38.4% from 3, 4 rebounds per game, .25 assist to turnover ratio, 1 block.
11/14/14 at Alabama - 32 minutes, 15 points, 0-2 from 2, 5-10 from 3, one offensive rebound, 4 defensive rebounds, 1 assist, 2 turnovers.
12/20/14 against LaSalle - 32 minutes, 14 points, 4-7 from 2, 0-3 from 3, 6-6 from the line, 3 defensive rebounds, 2 turnovers, 1 block.

Total in 8 games: 26.1 minutes per game, 9.9 points per game, 9/30 30% from 2, 14/45 31.1% from 3, 19/21 90.5% from the line, 2 offensive rebounds, 17 defensive rebounds, 2.4 rebounds per game, 10 assists, 13 turnovers, .8 assist to turnover ratio, 2 steals, 2 blocks

Feel free to check my math, format this in a more eye pleasing manner or add games against competition like Temple and Georgetown, or the CIT game against Murray St.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 9 years ago

We need two pieces for next year, a shooter, and a big guy. We got one of our targets, now just have to wait for the other. No chance this is the last roster movement. I can't complain at all about this move. This kid seems to be a knockdown shooter, and seems to be able to create his own shot, judging by the free throw numbers.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

Zags likes it...

Adam Zagoria ‏@AdamZagoria · 2h2 hours ago
Two teams that should make a jump next year: Rhode Island & Maryland. Both have key pieces returning & coming in as additions(Stone/McGlynn)

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Wait, top big man Diamond Stone and Four?
Is he on crack today?
We need two bigs, not one.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 9 years ago

We need 1 big to replace Gil as a starter and another to come off the bench. Bringing in a shooter is definitely a plus and a need.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:Zags likes it...

Adam Zagoria ‏@AdamZagoria · 2h2 hours ago
Two teams that should make a jump next year: Rhode Island & Maryland. Both have key pieces returning & coming in as additions(Stone/McGlynn)

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Ramblinrose · Unread post by **Ramblinrose** » 9 years ago

This year we had a nice little team. That will get you to the NIT. How did we miss on Bonzie Jr.?

Rhody72 · Unread post by **Rhody72** » 9 years ago

Four is not going to be any better than what he has shown at Towson - most like not as good against better competition and with less playing time. I expect Jarvis and Jared and EC to be improved shooters next season. I'm not a Biggie fan so I'll leave it there. A one year bench player is not what we need. Do we have a good big-man assistant coach? This may be part of the problem we have getting inside players.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

Ramblinrose wrote:This year we had a nice little team. That will get you to the NIT. How did we miss on Bonzie Jr.?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, check the BC Jr. thread……..

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Rhody15 wrote:We need two pieces for next year, a shooter, and a big guy. We got one of our targets, now just have to wait for the other. No chance this is the last roster movement. I can't complain at all about this move. This kid seems to be a knockdown shooter, and seems to be able to create his own shot, judging by the free throw numbers.

Hey! A reasonable post. Get this man a prize.

Every guy doesn't have to be an all-american, as long as they provide an ingredient that you need to be successful. This year's team was very good, but lacked perimeter and free throw shooting and depth on the interior. If people want to say they think that size is a bigger issue going into next year than shooting, I can accept that. But you can't argue that shooting is not important in basketball, or that we did it well enough last year to be really good. McGlynn does not need to play 30 minutes to impact a game. Two contradictory criticisms of this move I've heard: he isn't good enough to be one of our best players and we don't have a ton of minutes available at his position. Both things are probably true, but that is actually a GOOD thing when they are taken together.

I don't even get what our need for a big man has to do with analyzing whether bringing McGlynn in is a good thing. It isn't like we were at the basketball player store and we had to choose between either McGlynn or a big man and we took McGlynn. We need a McGlynn and a big guy. You guys are like a kid on christmas morning who asked for a GI Joe and bike, and the first package you open is the GI Joe so you start screaming at your parents that it isn't a bike. Just settle down and be patient and appreciate your GI Joe/shooter that you asked for all year and desperately needed.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

" I don't even get what our need for a big man has to do with analyzing whether bringing McGlynn in is a good thing."
Really? Duh! It has to do with scholarships available, which as of this moment is ZERO.
A small thing in your mind, I guess.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Just don't think that will be an impediment. I'd imagine one might loosen up. At the very least, the coaches have the best grasp on the entirety of the situation (i.e., what their needs are, who they can get, and how many spots they have available). I don't believe they would have brought McGlynn in unless they thought they needed him and it wouldn't limit their ability to add someone else that they need more. I'll trust them since they know all the facts and I don't, and I believe in their competency.

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 9 years ago

Although I am not necessarily of the opinion we should only take big men, I do understand the posters who are confused with this one- Last year he shot %39% on two's and 37% on threes. 37% is good, but not great. He did have more turnover than assists so I guess that fits. He did shoot ft really well, so maybe he is a specialist for end of games free throws.

Just don't get it.

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 9 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:Close enough. Thanks.

\Hmm Houston and Lubbock. Only in Texas is that considered close

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

McRam wrote:Although I am not necessarily of the opinion we should only take big men, I do understand the posters who are confused with this one- Last year he shot %39% on two's and 37% on threes. 37% is good, but not great. He did have more turnover than assists so I guess that fits. He did shoot ft really well, so maybe he is a specialist for end of games free throws.

Just don't get it.

He would have been the best three point shooter and FT shooter on the team (the two offensive areas where we were most deficient), he will be the most experienced player on a team without any seniors who will be major contributors, he was available and he is eligible to play right away. What is there not to get?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

If he was the only guy we were bringing in next season, it might not make much sense, given our bigger need for big men.

However I think we can all agree that there's at least 1, maybe 2 more players coming, and at least 1 of them will be that aforementioned big.

I really hope Dan can sign a 4 year big during the signing period.

If it takes a little while to get another, either transfer or post grad, that's OK, but we need one who can play big minutes right away.

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 9 years ago

TruePoint wrote:
McRam wrote:Although I am not necessarily of the opinion we should only take big men, I do understand the posters who are confused with this one- Last year he shot %39% on two's and 37% on threes. 37% is good, but not great. He did have more turnover than assists so I guess that fits. He did shoot ft really well, so maybe he is a specialist for end of games free throws.

Just don't get it.
He would have been the best three point shooter and FT shooter on the team (the two offensive areas where we were most deficient), he will be the most experienced player on a team without any seniors who will be major contributors, he was available and he is eligible to play right away. What is there not to get?

Granted he can shoot free throws, and he is better than anyone performed on three's last year. If he is a non athletic 6'2' shooting guard, I find it hard to see how there are minutes for him except at the end of the game. ok, if he replaces Butler or he can play backup point guard and give us another option for Biggie is some games, I get it. Like everyone, Waiting for signing day on April 15 to see what chips fall.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

The signing period is April 15 to May 20, but the exact dates are fairly irrelevant, as is the number of current players under scholarship, for that matter. This signing fills a need. The overlap in the Venn diagram of guys who can shoot and guys who will accept a specific role (in this case, being a guard joining a team of other good guards) is not large. Four fits.

reckless jake · Unread post by **reckless jake** » 9 years ago

First time I ever recall seeing "Venn Diagram" used in a basketball related post. Ace, this is why I enjoy reading your posts. I generally learn something new.

I don't understand all the static over Four McGlynn. He fills a gaping hole in offense, especially in conference play when the game slows down and other coaches game plan for us. You need a consistent 3 point shooter. You need to be able to score in different ways. He makes us a better team today than we were.

Be patient. We'll get a big man who can play.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Iverson, the most talented player playing only 3 minutes more than McGlynn?
Is there a full moon out, tonight?

Rod you have been very negative lately. What happen to in Dan we trust?

If you want a strong bench, all your starters can't average 30 minutes a game. Rhody didn't have depth this year and only 3 players averaged 27 minutes or more. Most people on the board thought Rhody tired late in games and late in the year.

Are you basing "the most talented player" on someone's high school performance even though they will be entering their 3rd year of play in college? I would think EC is the most talented player based on his college performance, awards and rating as an NBA prospect. Iverson is a question mark based on his lack of performance at Memphis.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Hmmm a senior who can come off the bench and knock down a couple threes, nah we don't need that. Is the line further back in the CAA? Did everyone see how much zone was played against us last season, and we struggled mightily at times for a few reasons, not having guys that can stretch the floor was one of them. Injuries, foul trouble, off nights, we are nowhere near having too many of anything. Shit happens. I trust the staff, good signing. Good teams can score in multiple ways, and have role players. That is what this is, adds a new dimension. I would assume our coaches know how many schollies they are working with.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Sorry I don't look at everything like everyone else does.
I'm not in fanboy ether. Much as I like him,
Dan isn't infallible, or we wouldn't have Butler and Oneykaba here.
Just not overwhelmed at a non athletic one trick player, from a lower level.
I hope I'm wrong.
Gee, wasn't Butler supposed to be our big shooter?
As for the smart-assed comments about where the 3 point line is, how about they guys guarding him? Were they CAA
or A-10 quality? Big damned difference.
Our main need is big men. We've never had a team win an NCAA game at URI without
a decent front-court.
Also, please stop the E.C. NBA nonsense. That stuff only hurt him this year.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 9 years ago

Rhody struggled to score for long stretches in many games. I know Terrell has great potential but offensively it is still potential. He struggled at the end of the year. His full year stats include:
FG% - 37%
3P% - 32%
TO - 1.8
A - 1.5
PF - 3.2
Games shooting under 33% - 15
Last 8 games he reached his avg PPG (9.2) once

We can use scorers

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Sorry I don't look at everything like everyone else does.
I'm not in fanboy ether.
Just not overwhelmed at a slow, non athletic one trick player, from a lower level.
I hope I'm wrong.
Gee, wasn't Butler supposed to be our big shooter?
As for the smart-assed comments about where the 3 point line is, how about they guys guarding him? Were they CAA
or A-10 quality?
Our main need is big men. We've never had a team win an NCAA game at URI without
a decent front-court.
Also, please stop the E.C. NBA nonsense. That stuff only hurt him this year.

OK. So let's just freeze the roster until we sign a true center? Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. Rod, you are being like a single-issue voter with this big man crusade. Could we use one? Yes. Do we have other needs that should be addressed if possible in the meantime? Also yes.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

This is like being on the PC board. God forbid, you don't
kiss certain asses and talk like we are followers of Chairman Mao
and agree wide eyed on everything.
You don't like my opinions. Don't read my posts.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

It isn't that I don't like your opinions, or I'm offended by them or I'm telling you not to post them. I just have a different one and I don't really get where you're coming from. Looking to engage in a conversation about it, where I respond to what you say by trying to address it, then you do the same if you're so inclined. Thought that was what we were here for. You just want to tell everyone they are wrong and for us to agree, or what?

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

No one has ever disagreed with us needing a Big Man. We all agree and know it, Dan knows it, I think the guy at Kingston Pizza even knows it. Its not an either or situation. So you are a fan boy if you think an above average 3pt shooter is a positive addition for this team? Not sure I get that.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 9 years ago

Btw, Iffy played in 7 games for a total of 38 minutes. All in mop role except 5 minutes in Jan at UMass because all of our big men where in foul trouble. He played 1 game since December and DNP the last 17 games.
I mention this because if Dan can sign a big man that will play, he has to let Iffy go. It would be irresponsible not to do so if there is an big man to sign.

Wayne · Unread post by **Wayne** » 9 years ago

From what I've read, I think this kid is going to be a great addition to our roster next season.
Of course we need another big man, but a 3-point shooter isn't going to be the worst thing for us.
More importantly, the 90% FT shooting will be huge.
One of the few stats that you can rely on regardless of CAA, A-10, ACC, etc. Free throws are free throws and 90% is 90%.
Whose hands are you putting the ball in to finish out close games? EC at 73%?
This was an Achille's heel for us last season and this is certainly a step in the right direction.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Seems that some here expect me to think everything
that happens in this program is just peachy.
If not, well, "You don't like Dan?" "You don't trust Dan?"
Sorry, life doesn't work that way. No matter how much you like
someone or something, things are never flawless.
Four is a career 39% shooter! He's not fucking Ray Allen. Get real.
Scorer? 12 ppg in a low level league on a bad team. Wow!
If Dan and staff was so, then Oneykaba and Butler would never be here.
I won't fault him for the transfers, trying to fill out a roster.
They certainly can identify and attract good guards.
However, bottom line. ONE good inside player signed in three years.
So, tell me where I'm off base?
Do you realize we're getting involved NOW this late with juco bigs?
Not a real positive sign. Hope they can pull a good big, but time
is passing, and most of the good ones are gone.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Rod, I'm not trying to bust your chops, but I really don't get your issue here. Nobody said this is Ray Allen. Ray Allen is a hall of famer. What he is is a guy who has proven to be a better shooter from three and the free throw line than anyone currently on our roster, and shooting from those to areas, specifically, were a MAJOR deficiency of last year's team. I could almost get it if we absolutely only had one spot open and we absolutely had a center lined up who wanted to get on board. But I don't believe either of those things are true right now, and certainly not both.

Nobody says you have to praise the coaches' every move. I certainly don't. One of my criticisms actually has been that they haven't valued this particular skill set enough in recruiting, instead focusing on athleticism that would allow them to play the style they played this year. I just think this is a weird hill to die on in terms of voicing disagreement. I don't really see any downside here, and after a dozen or so posts on the subject, I'm still not really sure I see what you see as the downside, either - besides that the guy isn't Ray Allen and isn't 6'10".

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

If this guy came from a solid D-1 conference and faced
solid competition every night, I'd have felt better.
Playing against Elon, Delaware, Charleston, Wm & Mary and the
UNC Wilmington's of the world, is a far cry from what he'll
be facing in the A-10, or the OOC schedule.
To think competition level is meaningless, and he can do pretty much
the same at a higher level, seems short sighted, to me.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Exactly, you kinda answered your own question...at this point i'm not holding out hope a 4 star center drops in our lap, if so I would manage my expectations, unless Dan has been growing him in his backyard out of sight. At best I hope for a Bonzie Colson Sr type 5th year - and that would likely be enough with everything else to make next year's team very dangerous. And a late bloomer, project-type FR. To me thats best case. I just hope people aren't expecting Montrez Harrell or Chukwu to fall in our lap in the late signing period. I dont see that as realistic.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

CAA is a tier below the A10 for sure, but we aren't talking about the Patriot League. Kid started in America East, which is not as good as the CAA, and maintained similar production at a higher level. VCU and GMU were CAA teams, they have some athletes in that league, its a step up for sure but I dont think as steep as you are making it out to be.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Hope you're right on McGlynn.
The best available big, Thorne, doesn't even have us on his list.
No, I don't have great hopes for a big, but we do need one
who can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Staff trying to jump in at this late date with jucos, to me, is a
less than optimistic sign.
Where did the "high profile"6'10" guy disappear to?
Not my words, but Dan's to several people.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

i heard the high profile and the 6'10 also -- but not sure they were linked. Time will tell....big 4 weeks right now that will directly impact how good we can be next year.

RAM67 · Unread post by **RAM67** » 9 years ago

One thing that is interesting to me is that he is a coach's son, who may bring some of the same attributes that TJ possessed. Also there have been numerous players who have jumped up in competition successfully. McConnel from Duquesne is one that comes to mind.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 9 years ago

I'm more excited for Four than not. I doubt he'll be amazing. But he could easily be a solid player off the bench. He's been playing college ball for a while, so I really don't think the competition thing is going to matter very much. It isn't hard for me to imagine him getting better going through training camp with all of our guys and just getting another year of basketball work under his belt. Our strength coach is amazing too.
Just knock down some threes!
He could have a big impact in our offensive in transition, when facing a zone and keeping the defense honest. We also lost a handful of games where guys missed one and ones and made one of two and we get burnt in the end. Put him in there and we'll have a 90 percent chance of making those free bees and we get W's

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

bigappleram wrote:No one has ever disagreed with us needing a Big Man. We all agree and know it, Dan knows it, I think the guy at Kingston Pizza even knows it. Its not an either or situation. So you are a fan boy if you think an above average 3pt shooter is a positive addition for this team? Not sure I get that.

That's not true, BAR! The Big Man himself has disagreed -- he's not here…..

Seriously, what McGlynn IV has only shown is that Murray is convinced that McG IV can get the job done at the A-10 level and that that Coach Hurley trusts Murray.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Because of all the big time talent Murray has brought in?
Oh he has 137 turnovers to 121 assists, and someone here wants him to
play backup point guard.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Like Rod, I would like to know if this promised big man deal fell through or not.

If so, would be very discouraging.

Could explain the staff looking at jucos. If we're going to get somebody, and he's not a grad transfer or 4 year, we need someone who can play right away, and a juco fits the bill.

Or maybe we still have him and have to wait until at least April 15th to find out, and we're looking for a 2nd big man recruit.

Rhodekill · Unread post by **Rhodekill** » 9 years ago

Just as a point of interest...Jordan Hare is still in school and still on scholarship....just saying...

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Rhodekill, YOU are correct!
I mentioned before,(and nobody reacted) that
his name hasn't been mentioned regarding transferring anywhere.
I'm no fan of Hare or of his behavior, but if there seems to be
no alternative...........

RAM67 · Unread post by **RAM67** » 9 years ago

What's up with that?

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