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rambone 78 wrote:This "big man in waiting" thing is killing us.
Correction, it's killing you. It's March 31st...everything will be ok.
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I'll take your word on it, thanks.... :P
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Great signing! 40% from 3pt, 92% foul shooter. Opens up the lane for our other guards, who are more slashers than shooters (EC, Terrell, Jarvis).
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So many Four McGlynn threads! Going to merge these.
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Additional Four facts: he graduated from Dallastown Area High School (same school as women's basketball recruit Amari Johnson), his given name is Patrick, and he had brain surgery when he was in high school (a few years later, his younger brother did, too).

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This is a great signing, not sure how anyone can hate it. Its not Four or Zero - there will be other moves. A 40% 3 pt shooter on a team that shot 29% is called addressing a need. We have 3 guards who would benefit from less zone defense, and open lanes that a shooter creates....this makes EC, Terrell and Jarvis that much more effective when any of them are in the game with him.
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I think shooting is every bit as big of a need as size. Not that size isn't a need, but I hope people realize how big of a need some shot-making ability was for this team, and therefore how big this signing is.
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Really, so do tell us who sits, so this new white Ray Allen
is going to play?
Sit EC? Terrell? Garrett? Iverson?
Does anyone have the slightest clue if he can play any defense?
Has one single person doing backflips through their butts over him,
ever seen him play even one minute?
Big difference shooting against Maryland Easter Shore, than VCU.
I figured TJ's minutes and more would go to Iverson. Biggie is the only backup
PG on the roster.
To me, this asks more questions than it answers.
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TruePoint wrote:So many Four McGlynn threads! Going to merge these.
Shouldn't he have four threads though? (I wonder when the "four" jokes will get old?)
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rodfromcranston wrote:Really, so do tell us who sits, so this new white Ray Allen
is going to play?
Sit EC? Terrell? Garrett? Iverson?
Does anyone have the slightest clue if he can play any defense?
Has one single person doing backflips through their butts over him,
ever seen him play even one minute?
Big difference shooting against Maryland Easter Shore, than VCU.
I figured TJ's minutes and more would go to Iverson. Biggie is the only backup
PG on the roster.
To me, this asks more questions than it answers.
Unless you're only going to play six guys, this guy is valuable. Even if Jared, Jarvis and EC each play 30 minutes every game, that leaves some quality minutes that need to be filled. Iverson will get some chunk of that, but I think he will also eat up a chunk of minutes at the four. There is no such thing as having too many good players. If he is good, I want him.
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Rod, with our fouling tendencies, he'll probably play more than you think.

Plus, it helps to have a guy who can open up the defense now and then.

This guy isn't the Second Coming, for sure, but he'll help. How much, we'll see.

It's only for 1 season anyway, it will help bridge the gap until Dan can bring in another PG in 2016.

We have bigger fish to fry right now. Bigs, and more bigs.
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Like the signing. Solid teams wanted this kid.

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Our biggest issues to address in offseason - turnovers, perimeter shooting, interior scoring. 1 area is addressed by this. Anyone Matt Painter liked is good to me. How many guys have we seen play live before we are evaluating them here? Isnt that what message boards are for.
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pc board is reporting that Four is more like a Two...and those Big Ten schools did NOT show any interest in him.......
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...oh yeah.....that the gap between the nbe and the A-10 is wider than ever......
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All I know is that 3 will always be greater than 2. Lesser competition or not, if he can hit the three when he is open, more times than not, it sounds good to me. I do think we need a big man, but you take what you can get. We can't seem to get a big man, so I'll take the good 3pt shooter any day.
Oh and he can hit FREE THROWS! Over 90% (based on what I'm hearing from people on this board) is a big upgrade at the line. It's like Rhody's free throw percentage just got a steroid injection.
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in all fairness, their smarter posters know we will be good.
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Four? Is that like George Costanza wanting to name his kid Seven?
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And, taking in McGlynn is a much better option than bringing in Jaren Sina. This should definitely close the door on Sina.
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From Chris...


Chris DiSano @CDiSano44
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Towson transfer Four McGlynn to @RhodyMBB. 12ppg, 39% 3pt. 91.7% from stripe. Talked 2 a CAA Coach about him...next tweets are what he said:


Chris DiSano @CDiSano44

CAA coach on McGlynn "He can really shoot it. Will provide good punch for URI off bench. He doesn't create, but doesn't turn it over either"

CAA coach on McGlynn (2) - "Find him in transition spotting up or he'll burn u. His adjustment will be getting in sync on D, way URI plays."
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his name is Patrick McGlynn IV but he goes by Four
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twisted3829 wrote:his name is Patrick McGlynn IV but he goes by Four
So, most likely, in 50 years or so , there WILL be a Seven.
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rodfromcranston wrote:I feel for Hassan Martin, who has NBA aspirations, and has yet
to develop that part of his game needed to attract NBA attention.
According to Gilvydas, Hassan has a ton of weapons that he
doesn't show in games.
Why? Because he's under the basket at 6'7".
Sure his blocked shots are fun, but nobody in the pros will be looking at
him as a shot blocker.
Would love to see him get more touches. Hopefully he'll have more opportunity if we can get a big or 2. I was thinking this all season long. So much talent in Hassan. Wish it could be utilized more.
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Ramblinrose wrote:Four? Is that like George Costanza wanting to name his kid Seven?
At least it's not "soda" haha. In all seriousness I like this signing. I'll take a shooter--any shooter right now
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First tweet I've seen regarding his defense.

Jordan Rowan ‏@J_Row4 · 2h2 hours ago
Four McGlynn is a very good addition for Rhode Island. Consistent shooter and a solid perimeter defender as well
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rodfromcranston wrote:Really, so do tell us who sits, so this new white Ray Allen
is going to play?
Sit EC? Terrell? Garrett? Iverson?
Does anyone have the slightest clue if he can play any defense?
Has one single person doing backflips through their butts over him,
ever seen him play even one minute?
Big difference shooting against Maryland Easter Shore, than VCU.
I figured TJ's minutes and more would go to Iverson. Biggie is the only backup
PG on the roster.
To me, this asks more questions than it answers.
Many posters felt that the starters ran out of gas at the end of the year due to the lack of bench.
EC played 33 minutes (clearly too much), Terrell played 27 minutes (he will continue to get in foul trouble) and Garret played 25 minutes.
If they play a three guard line up, that is 120 minutes to spread around. With a four guard rotation that is 30 minutes avg. If Iverson splits his time between G and F, the minutes could look like this:
EC 30 minutes
Terrell 27 minutes
Garrett 30 minutes
McGlynn 20 minutes
Iverson 23 minutes (13 at G)
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Rhody83 wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:Really, so do tell us who sits, so this new white Ray Allen
is going to play?
Sit EC? Terrell? Garrett? Iverson?
Does anyone have the slightest clue if he can play any defense?
Has one single person doing backflips through their butts over him,
ever seen him play even one minute?
Big difference shooting against Maryland Easter Shore, than VCU.
I figured TJ's minutes and more would go to Iverson. Biggie is the only backup
PG on the roster.
To me, this asks more questions than it answers.
Many posters felt that the starters ran out of gas at the end of the year due to the lack of bench.
EC played 33 minutes (clearly too much), Terrell played 27 minutes (he will continue to get in foul trouble) and Garret played 25 minutes.
If they play a three guard line up, that is 120 minutes to spread around. With a four guard rotation that is 30 minutes avg. If Iverson splits his time between G and F, the minutes could look like this:
EC 30 minutes
Terrell 27 minutes
Garrett 30 minutes
McGlynn 20 minutes
Iverson 23 minutes (13 at G)
So, where does Thompson fit in this rotation?
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He has got to be more than just a spot up shooter since he went to the line 133 times last year. That tells me he also takes the ball to the hoop.
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Iverson, the most talented player playing only 3 minutes more than McGlynn?
Is there a full moon out, tonight?
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highlight reel from 4 years ago

sees the floor well, seems to have a decent handle and can shoot it.

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Iverson is our most highly ranked player coming out of HS, obv has talent, but also averaged 4ppg in 1.5 years. I don't expect instant offense. Unless Pastner was just a complete waste of him.
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Do some reading on the Memphis board on Pastner.
He's had more high ranked players transfer or under-perform
year after year, than any coach in America.
Classic guy who can recruit, but can't develop or coach those players.
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twisted3829 wrote:his name is Patrick McGlynn IV but he goes by Four

I'm guessing this comes from being a bad golfer.
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Ram1019 wrote:
Ramblinrose wrote:Four? Is that like George Costanza wanting to name his kid Seven?
At least it's not "soda" haha. In all seriousness I like this signing. I'll take a shooter--any shooter right now
We don't care for soda.
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Reischel , as I stated in an earlier thread, is the most likely candidate to leave...pretty much a sure thing in my estimation...we are not done yet....
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Then maybe 3 will leave. That would leave us with 3 openings after the Four signing.

All kinds of possibilities. They have to know by now [or darn close to it] who's leaving.
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Good get but Rod is right without a true big man if not 2 then we aren't a complete top 25 team.
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I'd love to get a good big man or two, but how will anyone transferring affect our APR?
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Hopefully bringing the #5 FT shooter in CBB will become infectious. Remember watching Jimmy B when the FT’s were almost as automatic as a Gostkowski XPA? Bringing McGlynn here certainly raises some very interesting roster/scholarship questions. With Butts, Iverson and Thompson in, others must go. Not to mention somehow, somewhere, finding the all elusive real five? Let’s face it watching ungodly-talented, big men like the Towns’, Okafor, and Kaminsky etc. you see what kind of inside talent it takes to realistically compete at that level. This off-season is going to be lots more fun than three years ago when we recruited players like eligible, grad-student Alwayne Bigby just to eat up minutes.
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Gotta say this talk of having a "big" is starting to wear on me. The "bigs" that people want/can win you an NCAA title are about 4 or 5 to a class. Even that's a high number. Frank the tank, Okafor, Cauley-Stein and the rest of Kentucky's roster are not coming to URI. No matter how high Hurley takes this program. Either way...it's not as big a deal as it's being made to be.

First off, 3 point shooting is the hardest thing to do in basketball. We got a guy who has proven he can do that. Hell yes. We can't shoot free throws very well. He can. Hell yes.

Second - the idea that height makes a team a winner is dumb. PC had to 7 footers and they lost to a team that didn't have a guy over 6'6. All 7'6 of Ndiaye at UC Irvine didn't translate 1 NCAA win against a not impressive Louisville team. If Briante Weber doesn't tear his knee apart, VCU could still be playing. Their "center" is 6'7 at best.

We play a style close to VCU so we don't need a huge guy to win games. We play hustle defense. We want to worry about winning the conference. You don't need a big to do that. It's putting the cart before the horse to expect 5 star bigs to come in here and compete for national championships when we're just starting to compete for conference ones.

Slow the roll and enjoy what we have now: a stud coach, a competitive program on the rise, and the best overall health of everything to do with basketball at URI in almost 20 years.
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Blue Man wrote:Gotta say this talk of having a "big" is starting to wear on me. The "bigs" that people want/can win you an NCAA title are about 4 or 5 to a class. Even that's a high number. Frank the tank, Okafor, Cauley-Stein and the rest of Kentucky's roster are not coming to URI. No matter how high Hurley takes this program. Either way...it's not as big a deal as it's being made to be.

First off, 3 point shooting is the hardest thing to do in basketball. We got a guy who has proven he can do that. Hell yes. We can't shoot free throws very well. He can. Hell yes.

Second - the idea that height makes a team a winner is dumb. PC had to 7 footers and they lost to a team that didn't have a guy over 6'6. All 7'6 of Ndiaye at UC Irvine didn't translate 1 NCAA win against a not impressive Louisville team. If Briante Weber doesn't tear his knee apart, VCU could still be playing. Their "center" is 6'7 at best.

We play a style close to VCU so we don't need a huge guy to win games. We play hustle defense. We want to worry about winning the conference. You don't need a big to do that. It's putting the cart before the horse to expect 5 star bigs to come in here and compete for national championships when we're just starting to compete for conference ones.

Slow the roll and enjoy what we have now: a stud coach, a competitive program on the rise, and the best overall health of everything to do with basketball at URI in almost 20 years.
+1

to take it a step further. Michigan State's tallest player is 6'9. Their best players are 5'10 and 6'0.

Some are under rating how much a sniper helps this team. All year teams just packed the paint and dared us to beat them with jumpers. You have a shooter like McGlynn and teams can't play a collapsing zone opening up big driving lanes for EC, Terrell and Jarvis as well as getting Hassan one on one looks down low.
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rodfromcranston wrote:Iverson, the most talented player playing only 3 minutes more than McGlynn?
Is there a full moon out, tonight?

Can you please stop saying that he is our most talented player? It is patently ridiculous. At this point, he was ranked probably four years ago. If you lined up the best basketball coaches in the country and told them they could steal one URI basketball player, Iverson is not the one they take. I promise you that. You could make a case he wouldn't go in the top three or even four. I like the high school rankings but they are not without mistakes. A top 50 talent finds a way to get more than 4ppg even if Mr. Magoo was coaching. If we could only take one guy, based on our current roster, I would take McGlynn over Iverson. 100x out of 100.
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Nobody is saying 5 star anything, so that's just a red herring.
VCU lost to STEPHEN F.AUSTIN with Briante Webber, last year.
Njaye can't walk an chew gum. Why not mention Kyle Wiltjer or Domanas Sabonis instead?
Yeah, Louisville sucked. They only made the Elite 8 and went to OT with MSU, which
would have taken them to the Final Four.
Until this year, Izzo always relied on big tough front court players.
Oh, and Denzel Valentine and Brandon Dawson aren't 5'10" and 6' for MSU.
Again, if you think you can make any kind of NCAA run with a 6'7"
center and a 6'6" backup, you're in fanboy ether.
NOT HAPPENING!
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So, GBG would take a guy with one year eliigibilty, who is a one trick pony,
over a guy whose game has been compared to Lamar Odom.
Yeah, OK. Whatever.
Must be a full moon out.
TJ Buchanan, who has practiced with Iverson since he got here,
says Iverson can do everything.
I'll take his word over your fictional scenarios, any day.
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rodfromcranston wrote:So, GBG would take a guy with one year eliigibilty, who is a one trick pony,
over a guy whose game has been compared to Lamar Odom.
Yeah, OK. Whatever.
Must be a full moon out.
Lamar is getting more than 4ppg in two years at Memphis. That's just a guess. I also qualified my statement by saying that it was in the context of the current roster. I think we have two guys in EC and JT that can score off the bounce, defend their position, and man the 2/3 for 30 minutes per game. I think we have a four in HM (assuming they bring in a body for the 5 at some point). This team needs someone who can knock down a shot. And, not for nothing, it will be nice to put a 90% FT shooter on the floor in the last two minutes as coaches switch out offense/defense. That alone would have flipped a few games this year. From the beginning, I wasn't crazy about KI for a variety of reasons. This is a much better addition.
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Must be why the addition of Iverson made every sports outlet in the US,
and McGlynn's zippo.
We have entered the Bizzaro Zone.
FWIW, one legendry Ram follower said,
"I need to go to the hospital" after hearing about McGlynn's coming here.
Not everyone is orgasmic about him.
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Building a team from scratch, I'd take Iverson over McGlynn. But this team, as talented as it is, has a pretty low ceiling without a perimeter threat and a big who can defend, rebound, and push HM to his natural position. They solved one of the two needs. This isn't building a fantasy basketball team. This is building a real team with needs. Iverson does predominantly was EC and JT are good at. You keep on referencing how few teams advance without a big why don't you look at how many teams advance without being able to hit threes. Throw in the scholarship crunch we currently have and Iverson is a redundant addition to a team that can't currently fill it's last need due to being out of scholarships.
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I agree with you. Maybe I'm minimalizing McGlynn?
Yes, we need a shooter, for sure. I wish he'd come from a higher
level program.
Time will tell, if he fits the bill.
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Re: Four McGlynn Tranfers to URI from Towson

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I don't know how this devolved into Iverson versus McGlynn, considering we have both.

McGlynn addresses a need, while Iverson adds a unique facet we don't really have - but enforces some things we try to do. Having a 6'9 guy who can stretch another team's 4 away from the rim, to open things up inside is a huge plus. Having a guy who can shoot the 3 on a team that desperately needs that is also a huge plus. Wouldn't trade either.

My point was that for who we are as a school and program, and where we are...we don't need a big right this second. The big is the finishing touch on a team that is an established NCAA contender to get to that "next level." We know we are going to be a conference contender, but we're not yet. Let's accomplish that first. Once that happens, then you can look at trying to get a big guy.

For what this program is and hopes to be, there are much more pressing needs to accomplish the goal of being an NCAA team on the regular. McGlynn addresses that right now. In a few years when getting guys as talented as EC, Hass, Jarvis, Terrell, and Iverson isn't such a coup, if Thompson and Butts pan out, a big will be a welcome addition. We need shooters first and foremost right now.
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Re: Four McGlynn Tranfers to URI from Towson

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So, you're content with burying Hassan Martin down low, and never letting him
develop his game, backed up by a 6'6" guy who couldn't score if
he was all alone on the floor?
Did you forget how this team looked when Martin got a couple of quick fouls?
No Biruta, either. Where's his replacement?
According to Chris Disano, staff claims to agree that their biggest need is size,
and it's a priority.
Time to deliver.
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