Four McGlynn Tranfers to URI from Towson

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

OMG, I think I'm going to faint....Rod, how could you!!! Ha ha.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Because of all the big time talent Murray has brought in?
Oh he has 137 turnovers to 121 assists, and someone here wants him to
play backup point guard.

My post was no reflection on McGlynn himself, but the relationship between Coach Hurley and Murray.
I wouldn't have….for a number of reasons.
BIG and small.

Stop! Rammer Time · Unread post by **Stop! Rammer Time** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Rhodekill, YOU are correct!
I mentioned before,(and nobody reacted) that
his name hasn't been mentioned regarding transferring anywhere.
I'm no fan of Hare or of his behavior, but if there seems to be
no alternative...........

How I think most of us feel about that . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08i9kvCJvJ0

DeanDome88 · Unread post by **DeanDome88** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:If this guy came from a solid D-1 conference and faced
solid competition every night, I'd have felt better.
Playing against Elon, Delaware, Charleston, Wm & Mary and the
UNC Wilmington's of the world, is a far cry from what he'll
be facing in the A-10, or the OOC schedule.
To think competition level is meaningless, and he can do pretty much
the same at a higher level, seems short sighted, to me.

I look at this guy as a Matt Butler type who will pull the trigger when he is open. His free throw shooting is also a big plus for the end of games. We need a good guard off the bench.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 9 years ago

Stop! Rammer Time wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:Rhodekill, YOU are correct!
I mentioned before,(and nobody reacted) that
his name hasn't been mentioned regarding transferring anywhere.
I'm no fan of Hare or of his behavior, but if there seems to be
no alternative...........

How I think most of us feel about that . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08i9kvCJvJ0

Well Hell, it is Resurrection Weekend…..

Though this is no miracle --- it's a freakin' nighthare!!!!!!!!

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 9 years ago

Rhodekill wrote:Just as a point of interest...Jordan Hare is still in school and still on scholarship....just saying...

And, he's 6'10." Could it be that he's who Dan has been talking about?
"The Resurrection Shuffle"

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Come on guys.
You know how I feel about Jordan Hare.
However, the degree that I feel about our need for
a big, drives me to that desperate point.
That's how strongly I feel the need is.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

DeanDome88 wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:If this guy came from a solid D-1 conference and faced
solid competition every night, I'd have felt better.
Playing against Elon, Delaware, Charleston, Wm & Mary and the
UNC Wilmington's of the world, is a far cry from what he'll
be facing in the A-10, or the OOC schedule.
To think competition level is meaningless, and he can do pretty much
the same at a higher level, seems short sighted, to me.
I look at this guy as a Matt Butler type who will pull the trigger when he is open. His free throw shooting is also a big plus for the end of games. We need a good guard off the bench.

I admittedly have not seen a lot of Four, but if he is not considerably better than Matthew Butler, why the hell would we use a scholarship on him? There is not one cell in my body that believes Matt Butler is a 12 ppg game in the CAA. I think this guy is a far better player that Butler or we wouldn't have brought him in.

Jordan Hare is not walking through that door. He will never play for URI again.

Shaolin Swat · Unread post by **Shaolin Swat** » 9 years ago

Four's raw numbers at Towson don't really concern me with how they would translate to the A10. After all, Mike Thorne "only" averaged 10 and 7 at UNC-Charlotte and is getting interest from schools like Arizona and Kansas. I look at Four as a piece of what is being brought in, and an important one at that. I think that, as many here have said, that he'll be able to stretch the defense and allow our other guards (as well as Hass) to get better looks when driving to the hoop.

(Just to go on the record, I do agree that they also need to bring a big man in.)

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Yes, but didn't we say that about a zillion times before?
Don't you find it just a little odd that a 6'10" guy hasn't surfaced
in any transfer discussion or even declared he was transferring?
You mean there isn't one D-1 coach desperate enough to take a chance
on Jordan Hare?
It's odd, in any case.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

The question is, is Hare still taking up a scholarship?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

It should run out when the semester ends.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:It should run out when the semester ends.

But, he was seriously taking up a scholarship for the last two years without playing one minute of basketball?

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:It should run out when the semester ends.
But, he was seriously taking up a scholarship for the last two years without playing one minute of basketball?

He was supposed to play in both those years (Powell, too, but not for as long). You can argue how much the staff is to blame (with Hare) and how much of it it was just situational, but that's how it worked out. In practice, it was problematic because guys like Butler and Onyekaba were 10 and 11 on the roster instead of 12 and 13. I know it's a hated word but getting a roster together from nothing- with obvious apologies to TJ- really is a process.

Rhodekill · Unread post by **Rhodekill** » 9 years ago

Jordan Hare is not walking through that door. He will never play for URI again.

I would not bet on that if I were you.....

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

Rhodekill wrote:
Jordan Hare is not walking through that door. He will never play for URI again.

I would not bet on that if I were you.....

C'mon. Where are you getting this from? How could the staff/university ever trust this guy's word again?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Well, you never know.....

BFC · Unread post by **BFC** » 9 years ago

Bringing in a physical presence, an interior player that can help us this coming year is another critical piece... a forward or interior player that can defend, rebound, and play around the basket.

http://www.coxhub.com/articles/uri-rams ... ce=twitter

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 9 years ago

If he was to play, at least he should be well rested.

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 9 years ago

I don't think it's fair to compare McGylnn to Butler. Though Butler made strides this year...he's still a shooter who refused to shoot. It's like when the lights are on and people are in the stands he's scared to do anything. No doubt the kid can put the ball in the hoop from deep in an empty gym, but at least McGlynn has proven to do that in D1 games.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

BFC wrote:
Bringing in a physical presence, an interior player that can help us this coming year is another critical piece... a forward or interior player that can defend, rebound, and play around the basket.
http://www.coxhub.com/articles/uri-rams ... ce=twitter

Awesome interview from Chris. Exciting answers from Dan.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

ramfan85 wrote:If he was to play, at least he should be well rested.

I laughed.

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 9 years ago

well rested... and full of rust...2 years without organized basketball...ugh.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 9 years ago

Yesterday at this time I posted Four McGlynn's career statistics against top competition with really no comment. I keep hearing about how will he adapt to higher competition. Over 8 games he averaged 26.1 minutes per game and 9.9 points per game. In short, in games against top competition he would have been our third leading scorer last year. At Vermont he did that as their best scorer, the guy other teams would key on. After a down first year at Towson, this past year he was again the team's leading scorer, the guy being keyed on. So instead of just asking how he'll adapt to higher competition, how about we also ask how will he adapt to not being the main man? How will he adapt to being the second, third, or fourth option for a team to defend against? How will he adapt to better teammates passing to him and accepting his passes? I think there's definitely reason to be optimistic about this player.

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 9 years ago

Sounds like Dan knows what he has to do. Don't see any reason not to have faith in his ability to do it.

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 9 years ago

It's worth noting that McGlynn never started in a game for Vermont, and wasn't really ever a full-time starter at Towson - he started about half the games his first year there and most (3/4-ish) of the games this past year. So despite his solid numbers, I don't think being a bench guy is foreign to him.

Sweep The Leg · Unread post by **Sweep The Leg** » 9 years ago

I think this is a solid move. You bring in a SG with experience and automatically improves your offense on paper. He shoots at a good rate at 3s and a gaudy 90% from the line. Having a deep threat will give our driving guards more room to work with as Ds can't collapse in the paint and if they do, there should be an open look with someone capable of knocking it down with more frequency. With Garrett's shooting improvement, we may have something going from long range. I think I read he's a coach's son, then maybe he can be the coach on the floor Dan needs, a replacement for TJ in that manner. This team has some players lowering the curve on basketball IQ.

There were probably no 2015 recruits Dan liked with this skill set which is desperately needed next year. So, bridge a transfer here for 2015 and find a 2016 SG they really like the following year.

I know everybody wanted the big man first, but are you going to refuse interest in a kid that can help you next year because you haven't signed the frontline player first? Sorry kid, we want you to play for us, but we haven't signed a 6'10 275lbs C yet and Keaneyblue will be pissed... Can you hold on until that happens?

When I was watching the Iona game and saw Butler in there for some quality minutes, my first reaction was Dan was showcasing him to potential other programs for transferring. He didn't see the court in any A-10 games even when all our guards were in foul trouble or injured. Since the NIT is really an exhibition, it seemed like a good opportunity, especially with a good lead.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 9 years ago

I have never heard of a situation like this Hare one we've delt with.
But I mean, I don't think he could solve our problems of he came back either.
Wouldn't believe he'd actually play until I saw him in warm ups.
I didn't know he had gone until the pace game was going on when Chris said he left again.
That was unbelievable.
Dream scenario would be, some power 6-10 to 7-0 foot guy.
And Hare

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 9 years ago

AND HARE!!!!!

_______, is like Jason in the Friday the 13th series on this board.

I loved him and my own opnion of his potential was very high. I have completely forgot about him at this point. HOW COULD ANYONE BE WONDERING ABOUT HIM?!

Smokinjimit · Unread post by **Smokinjimit** » 9 years ago

If this guy does nothing else but go into close games at the end to shoot free throws then his scholarship is worth it. 90%+ ft shooter is a difference maker for us.

PlayMikeMotenMore · Unread post by **PlayMikeMotenMore** » 9 years ago

Rod,

I would say before we poo-poo the kid becauase he's transferring up, keep in mind that this happens. I believe Hashimu Evans transferred from Manhattan to Kentucky years ago. Michigan State this year has Cleveland State transfer Bryn Forbes as a major contributor. Iowa State this year had Abdul Nader who transferred in from Northern Illinois. Michigan is looking at the big kid from Cornell for his post-grad year next season. Heck, URI had Abdul Fox come in from St. Peters and Mike Brown from Cal St.-Fullerton back in the 1990's

Generally speaking, if you can shoot then you can shoot. It may be tougher for the kid to create and make his own shot but it's not like he's going from Div 3 to the NBA. The jump from the CAA to the Atlantic 10 is not that big of a jump.

If the URI coaches thought that he couldn't contribute, then why they would waste a year on the guy. If somebody is coming for a single season, he better be a player who can immediately help. I'm willing to give this kid the benefit of the doubt. He's a legit Division One player.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 9 years ago

I hope Dan succeeds when he said: " heading into this year, the mindset is thinking about what it would take to get an at-large NCAA Tournament bid, so top 50 and top 100 RPI games are a big part of what we're going to try to do schedule-wise, and balance it out too."

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 9 years ago

I like that Four was looking at and looked at by schools that are up a level including some Big 10 schools.....I think the interest was mutual....

....I have always known that some high level alums close to Hare had been lobbying the coaching staff to give him another chance.....I don't know if that ship has sailed, however....

.....maybe all player personnel transactions in the next few days will be announced together....it is conceivable we could have 4 players choose to go elsewhere, and then make official that Hare is transferring....

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 9 years ago

ramfan85 wrote:If he was to play, at least he should be well rested.

Unread post by **SGreenwell** » 9 years ago

Re: Hare, aren't there APR implications if he manages to stay enrolled? I imagine that's why he's being kept on scholarship and nursed through URI. Even if he's not going to play basketball for URI and isn't going to transfer somewhere else to play basketball, it behooves them to keep him in class if they can. I don't think there's a chance he ever plays for the Rams again, given what he's put the program through.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

SGreenwell wrote:Re: Hare, aren't there APR implications if he manages to stay enrolled? I imagine that's why he's being kept on scholarship and nursed through URI. Even if he's not going to play basketball for URI and isn't going to transfer somewhere else to play basketball, it behooves them to keep him in class if they can. I don't think there's a chance he ever plays for the Rams again, given what he's put the program through.

For the upcoming year also?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

I spoke to someone today, who is very well informed on the
entire Hare situation.
He says, as of today, nobody has any clue what Hare may or may not do.
This person confirmed what I've always felt. That Hare is not in love
with the game of basketball.
That alone, may explain many things.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

If true Rod, then there's not a chance in hell he's coming back to the team.

Either he's 100% committed, or he doesn't play. Does anybody think he's going to all of a sudden have a change of heart at this stage?

His scholly, from what I understand, is done after this semester. Either he transfers, or he pays his own way.

I seriously doubt the latter will happen.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Yes, and that blase attitude probably didn't endear him
to his coach.
Again, it explains plenty.
Too bad, because with a little fire and dedication, he
might have made a decent living playing ball some day.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

And with that dedication, he would have helped us, no doubt.....the kid wasn't a savior, but he has talent...would have helped Hassan too....

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 9 years ago

From Dan's interview today:
"That's really our focus – bringing in a couple more pieces from a team standpoint that are going to put us over the top."
That tells me they aren't done and will not stay at the zero scholarships that Rod has been worried about in several of his post.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:I spoke to someone today, who is very well informed on the
entire Hare situation.
He says, as of today, nobody has any clue what Hare may or may not do.
This person confirmed what I've always felt. That Hare is not in love
with the game of basketball.
That alone, may explain many things.

Rod, did your informed source tell you if Hare is still going to classes now?

Rhody72 · Unread post by **Rhody72** » 9 years ago

How can we be excited about a player we are getting for one year, who wasn't a regular starter at a lower level school, who plays a position at which we are loaded with talent? This might be a good fine for DH for the 12-13 season.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

There's very little risk involved, it's for 1 year, if he doesn't help all that much, no big deal, really.

Then that scholly is available, to bring in a PG for 2016. By all accounts, there are a lot of good candidates available then.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 9 years ago

Rhody72 wrote:How can we be excited about a player we are getting for one year, who wasn't a regular starter at a lower level school, who plays a position at which we are loaded with talent? This might be a good fine for DH for the 12-13 season.

Our guards had trouble shooting from the outside. I am sure a lot of their 2 point FGs were on drives.
If you watched a lot of games, Rhody had trouble scoring. This guy is a scorer.
Three point %
EC .325
Terrell .319
Garrett .276

Two point %
EC .410
Terrell .371
Garrett .339

RIFan · Unread post by **RIFan** » 9 years ago

Little risk, unless he limits us from getting a big, like Hare did last season with Gustys.

I assume the coaching staff doesn't see our guards shooting or FTs improving enough, and to make up for it, they have to rent a guy for a year...

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

This guy is a proven 3 pt. shooter at the college level.

Butler hasn't done it.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

We played 3 guards almost exclusively, and even 4 at times.

PlayMikeMotenMore · Unread post by **PlayMikeMotenMore** » 9 years ago

Like in baseball where you can't have too much pitching, I would say in basketball you can't have too many shooters. Certainly URI doesn't have too many so I would say anybody who can shoot straight is a good addition. You never know about injuries too.

PlayMikeMotenMore · Unread post by **PlayMikeMotenMore** » 9 years ago

I'm also reminded of the Detroit Pistons who drafted a big man named Darko Milicic instead of some guy named Carmelo because they didn't need another big guard/small forward. Not exactly the same situation as URI taking another guard who can score but similar...

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