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rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Well, now we know why Bobby never signed his extension.
If I'm a Buffalo fan, I'd be pretty unhappy with him,
right now.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

I think Bobby was pissed at Buffalo for leaking info about that extension, to try and throw off DePaul and others.

The coach and school have to have trust in each other. That trust may have been violated.

If so, can't blame him for leaving. He wasn't long for that job [Buffalo] anyway.

Ramblinrose · Unread post by **Ramblinrose** » 9 years ago

Remember Travis Ford staying at UMASS? After winter in Buffalo, Hurley probably got off the plane in Tempe and said,"Where do I sign."

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Congrats to Bobby. I'm sure Buffalo fans feel a little burnt, but that's life in the MAC. Bobby is on the fast track, if he wins at ASU he will be on course for an elite job (maybe Duke?) and maybe the Hall of Fame.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 9 years ago

Bobby on the move!

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Pac 12 versus MAC? 2 mil a year versus 500K?

No brainer, as Shaka said when he took the Texas job.

Heard that VCU offered him a million dollar raise to stay, to approx. 2.5 mil a year.

Wasn't enough.

RhodeIslandRams · Unread post by **RhodeIslandRams** » 9 years ago

How Crazy. So my radio station is the ASU affiliate here. Guess I'll be seeing a bit of Bobby soon!

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Hope he's ready. Two years as a head coach to a PAC job.
I like Bobby, but he was lucky the Buffalo AD was a Duke guy
and gave him the shot at UB.
I wonder what happens to Nate Oates, EC's old coach, who was
an assistant under Bobby?

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 9 years ago

Bobby was smart to pass on Depaul. ASU is a much better job.

DanInAZ · Unread post by **DanInAZ** » 9 years ago

A Hurley coaching my two favorite college teams... It doesn't get better than this for me.

Welcome to the Valley of the Sun, Bobby!! From a fellow Jerseyite.

I always wanted URI to come out here to play ASU (like the hockey team would do) but I guess that won't happen any time soon now.

URI > ASU (just don't tell my sister). I wonder which coach brings more passion to their job at ASU now? Bobby or Todd? Hmmmmmm. Toss up, I think.

Oh, and bring me a slice of La Strada pizza when you come out. I miss 'real' pizza.

Da_Process_Survivor · Unread post by **Da_Process_Survivor** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Hope he's ready. Two years as a head coach to a PAC job.
I like Bobby, but he was lucky the Buffalo AD was a Duke guy
and gave him the shot at UB.
I wonder what happens to Nate Oates, EC's old coach, who was
an assistant under Bobby?

ASU was a smart move.

Yes its a PAC 12 job, but its the bottom of the barrell. If he gets them in the top half, he's already considered a success.

BPR2010 · Unread post by **BPR2010** » 9 years ago

How is Arizona St. a "bottom of the barrel" Pac-12 team? They finished right in the middle this past season, with an NIT berth. Clearly not an elite program, but he's not reinventing the wheel. Obviously transfers/recruits will impact things, but he's taking on a .500 team in conference this past season. Also, look up "curtain of distraction". Their student fans are awesome. Beat Arizona at home this year as well. Has a solid foundation there already.

I think it's an awesome jump for him, by year 2 they'll be contending for a tournament berth.

Da_Process_Survivor · Unread post by **Da_Process_Survivor** » 9 years ago

BPR2010 wrote:How is Arizona St. a "bottom of the barrel" Pac-12 team? They finished right in the middle this past season, with an NIT berth. Clearly not an elite program, but he's not reinventing the wheel. Obviously transfers/recruits will impact things, but he's taking on a .500 team in conference this past season. Also, look up "curtain of distraction". Their student fans are awesome. Beat Arizona at home this year as well. Has a solid foundation there already.

I think it's an awesome jump for him, by year 2 they'll be contending for a tournament berth.

meant in terms of name and historical performance.

Arizona, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Washington, Oregon and USC are all well ahead of them.

they're on the level of Oregon State and Washington State in that regard

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 9 years ago

Da_Process_Survivor wrote:
BPR2010 wrote:How is Arizona St. a "bottom of the barrel" Pac-12 team? They finished right in the middle this past season, with an NIT berth. Clearly not an elite program, but he's not reinventing the wheel. Obviously transfers/recruits will impact things, but he's taking on a .500 team in conference this past season. Also, look up "curtain of distraction". Their student fans are awesome. Beat Arizona at home this year as well. Has a solid foundation there already.

I think it's an awesome jump for him, by year 2 they'll be contending for a tournament berth.
meant in terms of name and historical performance.

Arizona, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Washington, Oregon and USC are all well ahead of them.

they're on the level of Oregon State and Washington State in that regard

I don't believe USC is ahead of ASU. USC has been a joke these past two years.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

Um some guy named Harden is a recent ASU alum. This was a great move by Bobby, huge payday, quality of life improvement, easy school to recruit to, great conference.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 9 years ago

Good for Bobby! URI Assistant to ASU Head Coach in 3 years - not bad!

Sucks for Buffalo.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 9 years ago

Not related to coaching changes, but best wishes to Hoiberg for a successful procedure and speedy recovery.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... rt-surgery

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

This sort of answers my question about Nate Oates:
Prep Hoops Michigan ‏@PrepHoopsMI 15h15 hours ago
Several news outlets reporting that former Romulus coach Nate Oats has been named the interim head coach at Buffalo. Congrats! #represent

Shaolin Swat · Unread post by **Shaolin Swat** » 9 years ago

Interesting stuff about Nate Oats. I don't recall there being too many interim coaches being named at this point in the year, so I'm curious to see what Buffalo's interpretation of interim is at this point. My assumption is that by putting the interim tag on him now, he's going to get a chance to coach the team next season. However, I suppose it could also be that he is the interim coach while they conduct the standard job search, which would make it harder for Oats to land a new job for next year if he isn't named head coach.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 9 years ago

Rothstein reports Bobby has a spot for Nate if he doesn't get the Buffalo job

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 9 years ago

DaninAZ can probably speak to some of this better, but Arizona State seems like a program that's had modest success but has underperformed. They're a Power 5 conference school, mid pack in the PAC 12, but with their location just outside of Phoenix it should be easier for them to attract talent then the University of Arizona, but they haven't done that. They've reached the second round in 2003 and 2009 and made another tournament in 2014, so there's some success that Hurley can build off of, but probably not unrealistic expectations to try and meet either. Jerry Colangelo, the Chairman of the Board for USA Basketball, was supposedly very involved with this hiring. The combination of the head of USA Basketball being behind the search, USA Basketball being headquartered near Arizona State, and Coach K being the head coach for USA Basketball should help Hurley get pumped into the talent pool that comes through the program. Also, I read there was talk of a new practice facility right next to ASU's campus that would be shared between ASU and USA basketball. Finally, for everyone thinking Hurley was in line for the Duke position, with so many potential people jockeying for that job when Coach K finally does retire, I think it was absolutely necessary for Hurley to start getting experience in a Power 5 conference to have a shot. All in all, I really like this opportunity for Hurley.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 9 years ago

Didn't a member of our staff from Hurley's first year follow Bobby to Buffalo? Was it Ben Wood?

Brian · Unread post by **Brian** » 9 years ago

Rhody15 wrote:Didn't a member of our staff from Hurley's first year follow Bobby to Buffalo? Was it Ben Wood?

Right

McRam · Unread post by **McRam** » 9 years ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote:DaninAZ can probably speak to some of this better, but Arizona State seems like a program that's had modest success but has underperformed. They're a Power 5 conference school, mid pack in the PAC 12, but with their location just outside of Phoenix it should be easier for them to attract talent then the University of Arizona, but they haven't done that. They've reached the second round in 2003 and 2009 and made another tournament in 2014, so there's some success that Hurley can build off of, but probably not unrealistic expectations to try and meet either. Jerry Colangelo, the Chairman of the Board for USA Basketball, was supposedly very involved with this hiring. The combination of the head of USA Basketball being behind the search, USA Basketball being headquartered near Arizona State, and Coach K being the head coach for USA Basketball should help Hurley get pumped into the talent pool that comes through the program. Also, I read there was talk of a new practice facility right next to ASU's campus that would be shared between ASU and USA basketball. Finally, for everyone thinking Hurley was in line for the Duke position, with so many potential people jockeying for that job when Coach K finally does retire, I think it was absolutely necessary for Hurley to start getting experience in a Power 5 conference to have a shot. All in all, I really like this opportunity for Hurley.

agree with most of what is said here, but not sure why u think Phoenix is a recruiting advantage over Tuscon and the U of A. To many, Tuscon's hills, less traffic and less smog is very favorable to Phoenix.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 9 years ago

It was an assumption that college age kids would prefer to be in more active, urban areas. Certainly not a hard rule.

DanInAZ · Unread post by **DanInAZ** » 9 years ago

the only thing you need to know is this...

ASU = URI
UofA = Providence.

Fans from both Providence and UofA think they are the superior program to their instate rival. Providence because the belonged to the BE in the 80s and UofA because they have had better coaches & success. Oh, and a banner. With Bobby they will no longer have the higher profile coach in Arizona leading their program. At least when it comes to the peripheral/casual fan.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

I would say Arizona fans aren't nearly as delusional in thinking their program is better than ASU's as PC fans are.

DanInAZ · Unread post by **DanInAZ** » 9 years ago

I wouldn't be so sure about that. I have seen/heard enough of it first hand.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

They might be insufferable d-bags, but at least their program is actually elite. That was my point. I hope ASU curb stomps them with Bobby there. Go Sun Devils.

DanInAZ · Unread post by **DanInAZ** » 9 years ago

Agreed.

That was my point as well above. Providence has league affiliation to throw around, Arizona has had a higher level of success to back up their elitist attitude.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 9 years ago

DanInAZ wrote:the only thing you need to know is this...

ASU = URI
UofA = Providence.

Fans from both Providence and UofA think they are the superior program to their instate rival. Providence because the belonged to the BE in the 80s and UofA because they have had better coaches & success. Oh, and a banner. With Bobby they will no longer have the higher profile coach in Arizona leading their program. At least when it comes to the peripheral/casual fan.

I think this analysis is pretty bang on accurate.

Agree with others = go Sun Devils!

I think I have an ASU sweatshirt around somewhere, I know I have a nice fitted hat! I'll break it out!

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

ARD was named Interim Coach when the coach was fired.
It's just a term that sort of means, "guy to run things until
we find someone else."

Andrew · Unread post by **Andrew** » 9 years ago

Interim tag removed from Nate Oats in Buffalo. He's their guy.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Goo for Nate!

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 9 years ago

Here's an article I don't believe has been posted yet here that talks about the breakdown between the University of Buffalo and Bobby Hurley

http://buckyandsully.buffalonews.com/20 ... situation/

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Goes to show the significance of competent leadership. Thorr handled our situation with Dan about 100% the opposite of how Danny White handled Bobby's in Buffalo.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 9 years ago

This is almost the opposite on how Danny's extension was handled. Thorr and Dooley were proactive. I'm glad they learned from their predecessors' mistakes.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Looks like White just got too cute, and blew it.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 9 years ago

Don't blame Bobby for leaving. Wouldn't wanna work for that asshole.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

He obviously misread Bobby's loyalty to him and/or the school.
He did give Bobby a chance most would not have.
The article makes it seem as though White was offering $1,000
over what he was making, but in fact he would have gotten a 301K raise.
Nowhere near what Depaul of ASU were offering, but substantial in
the real world, and more than Bobby made in his time as an assistant coach,
combined.
I'm sure there's two sides of the story, as usual.

Rhodekill · Unread post by **Rhodekill** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:He obviously misread Bobby's loyalty to him and/or the school.
He did give Bobby a chance most would not have.
The article makes it seem as though White was offering $1,000
over what he was making, but in fact he would have gotten a 301K raise.
Nowhere near what Depaul of ASU were offering, but substantial in
the real world, and more than Bobby made in his time as an assistant coach,
combined.
I'm sure there's two sides of the story, as usual.

actually there are three sides to every story...his side, her side and the truth....

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

Chris Harriman, father of Avery, is leaving Nebraska for New Mexico (assistant to associate coach).

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 9 years ago

We are involved with Willy Kouassi from Kennesaw State. Someone we know is involved with them.

Kevin McNamara @KevinMcNamara33
Ex URI, BC coach Al Skinner interviewing at Kennesaw State today. No deal in place.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Wow! Al couldn't get arrested after Ryan's slam piece on his
BC tenure.
Kennesaw State?????

PlayMikeMotenMore · Unread post by **PlayMikeMotenMore** » 9 years ago

Got a "Bobby Hurley is a turd" story today...

So the media gets to vote for conference coach of they year. In the MAC this year, it was pretty much a run away slam dunk with Keno Davis taking Central Michigan to the top of the league. Well Bobby found out that his radio guy voted for Keno and not Bobby as MAC Coach of the Year. So Bobby decided to snub his own radio guy from doing pre-game interviews with him, no off the record access, banned him from travel with the team, etc. This was Bobby's way to "stick it" to his own radio guy for not voting for him, apparently. Word on the street in Buffalo is that Bobby's act won't be terribly missed by the UB community.

Never heard a coach pulling that nonsense before...

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Maybe there is truth to that and they won't miss his "act," but I bet they will miss being remotely relevant.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

And which radio guy would that be, since we're telling stories?

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 9 years ago

PlayMikeMotenMore wrote:Got a "Bobby Hurley is a turd" story today...

So the media gets to vote for conference coach of they year. In the MAC this year, it was pretty much a run away slam dunk with Keno Davis taking Central Michigan to the top of the league. Well Bobby found out that his radio guy voted for Keno and not Bobby as MAC Coach of the Year. So Bobby decided to snub his own radio guy from doing pre-game interviews with him, no off the record access, banned him from travel with the team, etc. This was Bobby's way to "stick it" to his own radio guy for not voting for him, apparently. Word on the street in Buffalo is that Bobby's act won't be terribly missed by the UB community.

Never heard a coach pulling that nonsense before...

This doesn't sound accurate. How was Bobby able to institute all of these vindictive measures in the wake of the post season award voting? By it's very nature, post season awards happen at the end of the regular season, yet you seem to be describing long term issues. And how are you plugged into the Buffalo network enough to have the inside dirt on this?

And if you've never heard of coaches retaliating against the media because they're unhappy with them, congratulations on your first week of being a sports fan...

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:We are involved with Willy Kouassi from Kennesaw State. Someone we know is involved with them.

Kevin McNamara @KevinMcNamara33
Ex URI, BC coach Al Skinner interviewing at Kennesaw State today. No deal in place.

2 sightings of Al on the KSU campus today.
KSU AD from same school as Al.

http://www.ksuowlhowl.com/rumor-skinner ... he-winner/

woodennickel1 · Unread post by **woodennickel1** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Wow! Al couldn't get arrested after Ryan's slam piece on his
BC tenure.
Kennesaw State?????

Wonder what Ryan thinks of his mighty BC now ? Thought that was a total hack job by him to do that to a guy like Skinner who may not be the most ambitious guy but always ran a clean program and did a great job overall at BC. I talked to Skinner a few times at various HS tournaments he was a very nice guy.

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