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Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

One man's opinion as the regular season winds down:

First Team
Graham, VCU
Bembry, St. Joe’s
Matthews, URI
Kalinowski, Davidson
Siebert, Dayton

Second Team
Pierre, Dayton
Anthony, Rich
Gibbs, Davidson
Price, LaSalle
Martin, URI

Third Team
Paschal, Fordham
Lalanne, UMass
Wright, LaSalle
Ndoye, St. Bon.
Pollard, Dayton
Weber, VCU

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Martin is a better more impactful player on both ends
of the court than Matthews.
Hassan just doesn't get the big hype.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

Rod: There's something to say for that argument. I think if he was higher in the conference in rebounding (he's 7th) he'd have a better chance. To go from nothing in pre-season vote to second team would be quite an accomplishment.

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 9 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Martin is a better more impactful player on both ends
of the court than Matthews.
Hassan just doesn't get the big hype.

100%. If you had to bet your house on a game and had to take five A-10 players, you'd be insane not to take Martin. It drove me crazy last night that the color guy kept saying EC was Rhody's best player. EC has the highest usage rate in the A-10. Doesn't make him the best player.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 9 years ago

I'd put Martin on 1st team and Matthews on second but coaches will mostly look at numbers and put it the other way

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

I'd love to see EC and Hassan on the 1st and 2nd teams, but I think it will be EC-2nd, and Hassan-3rd.

Terrell will get on the all rookie team.

URI still doesn't get the respect that others get.

That will all change next season.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

Iggy,
I think you might consider Junior Shevon Thompson on one of these teams, my guess is 2nd team.
Consider he is the only A10 player averaging a double - double on the season, plus a high FG%

1st Rebounding with a dominating 11.7 rpg and 1.9 rpg ahead of 2nd place Ndoye
3rd FG% 58%
10th Blocks 1.1 bpg
15th Scoring 13.1 ppg

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Ramster, imagine if we had Thompson on our team this year...we'd be making Dance plans without a doubt....

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:Ramster, imagine if we had Thompson on our team this year...we'd be making Dance plans without a doubt....

Would be awesome. He may go NBA after just this one year, especially if Hewitt gets canned as expected.
Thompson is probably the biggest surprise new addition to the A10 this year - heck of a player with legit NBA potential

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

ramster wrote:Iggy,
I think you might consider Junior Shevon Thompson on one of these teams, my guess is 2nd team.
Consider he is the only A10 player averaging a double - double on the season, plus a high FG%

1st Rebounding with a dominating 11.7 rpg and 1.9 rpg ahead of 2nd place Ndoye
3rd FG% 58%
10th Blocks 1.1 bpg
15th Scoring 13.1 ppg

Excellent addition

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 9 years ago

I would flip flop Martin and Matthews. I also could see Pierre finding his way on 1st team.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 9 years ago

Martin could sneak on the first team. I don't think they'll put any of our guys on the first team. I think Martin and Terrell have to be on the defensive team.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

If Hassan averaged say, 14.5-16 ppg, he'd have a better chance.
11.7 ppg. is not going to grab the attention of voters who seem to
pay attention to points more than any other factor.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Hassan would average that, if we got the ball to him more........

I expect him to get 14-16 a game next season.

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 9 years ago

I think you have to move Weber up higher, simply because of the monumental collapse VCU has had without him.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

Weber needs to be there somewhere since he would've set the NCAA steals record. First team? I think that's too high since he only played 2/3rds of the season. You could make an argument for second team.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 9 years ago

it depends if there is a play requirement to get on the awards list, Weber has missed 10 A10 games (I believe the awards are just for the conference games not all games)

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 9 years ago

I think Player of the Year is wide open. A-10 Talk is doing a blogger poll for the awards and the guy running it told me he's received four ballots so far with four different POYs.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

I think Bembry had the best year, but St. Joe's didn't so that hurts him a lot. VCU's fade could hurt Graham. Maybe Siebert.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 9 years ago

I think it's between Bembry and Sibert

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 9 years ago

My vote was for Sibert, so it makes me wonder who the other three votes were for. Kalinoski also has a great shot.

Shinze88 · Unread post by **Shinze88** » 9 years ago

I love EC, he's going to be a much better player next year. I think he needed to learn how to play with great expectations that were placed on him. He was being rumored as a first round NBA pick before the season started. That had to be an immense amount of pressure to play under. He also was expected to replace X as the go to option and he has struggled with that throughout the course of the season.

As for first team A10, I'm not sure he is deserving. His turnovers were alarming and at times his defense was very suspect. It all depends on the voters and how much they just look at stats, as well noted in this thread, Hassan Martin was far and away our best and most consistent player this season.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

X was older, played for Hurley at St. Benedict's, went
through the juco meat grinder.
He was top gun from day one. Accepted his role, and
nothing bothered him.
I think the burden of being first option has not sat well
with EC. I think his idea of what that means has messed him
up and now, his injury only makes things worse.
I don't think he's had a good year overall.
All the hype, such as we heard Tuesday, is over the top.
He needs to get healthy next year, work on his right hand,
and relax a bit. Maybe enjoy the game with less pressure.
He'll have others who can take shots. Terrell and Garrett will be a year older,
Iverson and Thompson will be added firepower.
Forget the point guard stuff and just play the game.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote:One man's opinion as the regular season winds down:

First Team
Graham, VCU
Bembry, St. Joe’s
Matthews, URI
Kalinowski, Davidson
Siebert, Dayton

Second Team
Pierre, Dayton
Anthony, Rich
Gibbs, Davidson
Price, LaSalle
Martin, URI

Third Team
Paschal, Fordham
Lalanne, UMass
Wright, LaSalle
Ndoye, St. Bon.
Pollard, Dayton
Weber, VCU

Iggy,
How about All Freshman Team and All Defense Team and Player of the Year?
For Freshman I'll guess:
Terrell URI
Paschal Fordham
Larrier VCU
Sengfelder Fordham
Watanabe St Bonaventure
POY is between Bembry and Kalinowski but I go with Kalinowski since Davidson looks like they will win the A10 - I like the POY coming from the Conference Champion

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 9 years ago

this was my guess (although I think Hassan and EC will be switched)

1st Team:
Bembry (SJU) - Player of the Year
Anthony (UR)
Sibert (UD)
Graham (VCU)
Martin (URI)

2nd Team:
Price (LaSalle)
Kalinoski (Davidson)
Matthews (URI)
Thompson (GMU)
Posley (SBU)

3rd Team:
Pierre (UD)
Ndoye (SBU)
Sullivan (Davidson)
Allen (UR)
Garino (GW)

Defensive Team:
Martin (URI) - Defensive Player of the Year
Nyode (SBU)
Lewis (VCU)
Sibert (UD)
Buchanan (URI)

Rookie Team:
Sengfelder (Fordham) - Rookie of the Year
Adams (SBU)
Terrell (URI)
Aldridge (Davidson)
Yarbough (SLU)

6th Man:
TJ Buchanan (URI)

COY:
McKillop

Most Improved:
Pollard (UD)

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

twisted3829 wrote:this was my guess (although I think Hassan and EC will be switched)

1st Team:
Bembry (SJU) - Player of the Year
Anthony (UR)
Sibert (UD)
Graham (VCU)
Martin (URI)

2nd Team:
Price (LaSalle)
Kalinoski (Davidson)
Matthews (URI)
Thompson (GMU)
Posley (SBU)

3rd Team:
Pierre (UD)
Ndoye (SBU)
Sullivan (Davidson)
Allen (UR)
Garino (GW)

Defensive Team:
Martin (URI) - Defensive Player of the Year
Nyode (SBU)
Lewis (VCU)
Sibert (UD)
Buchanan (URI)

Rookie Team:
Sengfelder (Fordham) - Rookie of the Year
Adams (SBU)
Terrell (URI)
Aldridge (Davidson)
Yarbough (SLU)

6th Man:
TJ Buchanan (URI)

COY:
McKillop

Most Improved:
Pollard (UD)

Twisted,
Excellent Job,
Freshmen
I agree with not including Paschall on any of the 3 teams or on the All Freshman Team. I am not sure the A10 Coaches will go that way but I agree.
I also agree on Sengfelder being Freshman of the Year. I would not call it Rookie because if that was the case then I would have to give it to Shevon Thompson - but think you are right with this pick.
Do you think Terrell has a shot at Freshman of the Year? Fact that URI exceeded expectations from being picked preseason 6th and will end up likely 3rd should say something for Terrell.
- Terrell is ranked 4th in FT% at 83.3% hitting 35 of 42
- Terrell ranks 7th in Steals with 1.9 spg
- Not bad for a Freshman - performance of his team, just the fact that he could grap a starting spot from Day 1 on the #3 team says a lot
- Unfortunately Paschall could sneak onto this team, and they might even be dumb enough to give him Freshman of the year - hope not

POY and 1st Team
I think you are right on Bembry, however Sibert could sneak in and grab it since Dayton will likely come in 2nd
My pick for POY is Kalinoski, my case:
- 5th in PPG 16.4
- 20th in Rebounding 5.6
- 1st in Assists 4.2
- 2nd in FT 83.7%
- 9th in Steals1.5
- 10th in 3FG 38.7%
- 4th in 3FG made 2.4
- 2nd Assists/Turnover Ratio 2.5
But biggest reason for Kalinoski is he has been the best, most consistent player for Davidson. Davidson was picked 12th by A10 Coaches and 13th or 14th by many publications. They will likely win the A10 today. I would say that Kalinoski has done it all for Davidson and even stepped up further and carried the team when their PG got injured and was out for 7 games.
For sure I would have Kalinoski on 1st team
EC Mathews and Martin both on 2nd team
I might also have Graham on 2nd team, Martin or EC on 1st team

I also like your pick of Sullivan on 3rd team - another guy who really stepped up when Gibbs went out for Davidson. In addition to Kalinoski on 1st team I might even move Sullivan up to 2nd team.

Agree with:
- Defensive team
- COY
- 6th Man
- Most improved

We will soon if the A10 Coaches are as capable in picking. My fear is that they are not - and will go more with the "name" guys versus the actual performances

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

Davidson with an impressive dismantling of Duquesne on the road no less to show why they are the Champs of the A10.
IMHO Kalinoski took another step towards being selected 1st team and quite possibly A10 POY.
12-14 FG
8-10 on 3 point FG
5 Rebounds
9 assists

Jack Gibbs also a perfect 7-7 FG including 5-5 on 3 point FGs. He would be an All A10 selection if he had not missed 7 A10 games with a knee injury.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

Kalinowski is a lock for first team.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 9 years ago

kenpom.com's Atlantic 10 First Team:

Tyler Kalinoski, Davidson (kPOY); Treveon Graham, VCU; Dyshawn Pierre, Dayton; Jordan Sibert, Dayton; E.C. Matthews, Rhode Island

And the take on the tournament:

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog ... c_10_log52

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Kalinoski was an unrated recruit by most services coming out of Kansas in 2011 and had only one scholarship offer in addition to Davidson (Jacksonville). Great job scouting by Davidson's staff to find a guy in the middle of nowhere that would fit perfectly with their system. Incredible that he will be the A10 player of the year (and I believe he should be).

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

ace wrote:kenpom.com's Atlantic 10 First Team:

Tyler Kalinoski, Davidson (kPOY); Treveon Graham, VCU; Dyshawn Pierre, Dayton; Jordan Sibert, Dayton; E.C. Matthews, Rhode Island

And the take on the tournament:

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog ... c_10_log52

He left off Bembry?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

Ridiculous. Bembry had a better season than Graham or Matthews.
Sure, he plays for a lousy team, but the guy does it all, and
he's only a sophomore.

Rhodyhooopz · Unread post by **Rhodyhooopz** » 9 years ago

Bembry is the best player I have seen in the A-10 this year.

Ram1019 · Unread post by **Ram1019** » 9 years ago

I agree. Bembry is just incredible to watch.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Take Bembry off that team, and they would have been 14th in the A10 this season.

Notice the 5 guys who were picked, are on top 5 teams.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

From K Mac this morning. Have to respect Martelli for his comments about Bembry for POY. But obviously he would disagree with Bembry being left off the 1st Team.
K Mac had it: Bembry, Mathews, Kalinoski, Sibert and Graham. Difference being that Pierre of Dayton is not on 1st team and Bembry is.
of course, A10 could go the way of the NBE and have 7 guys on 1st team (due to a tie). Dunn and Henton both made it from PC.

http://www.providencejournal.com/articl ... 1612882843

A-10 selections to come

One coach who clearly "gets it" is Saint Joseph’s Phil Martelli. He may have the best player in the Atlantic 10 in DeAndre Bembry (17.9 ppg, 7.8 rebs.) but the coach deflected any thoughts that the sophomore should be considered for any Player of the Year mention.

“He’s had a brilliant year,” Martelli said, “and I’m his coach and I love that kid. But the player of the year plays on the best team. Whatever they vote, you’re not going to hear a peep from me. I’ve told my team that. If we’re having a normal year, he’s an All-American, not just all-league.”

The A-10 selections don’t come out until later this week. Look for Bembry, Dayton’s Jordan Sibert, Davidson’s Tyler Kalinoski, VCU’s Treveon Graham and URI’s E.C. Matthews. We’d go with Sibert over the red-hot Kalinoski in a close call.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 9 years ago

Bembry is terrific and is a no-brainer for first team. I don't think he is POY, though, for the same reason I didn't think ARod was the MVP on a last place Rangers team.

Running Ram · Unread post by **Running Ram** » 9 years ago

if not Bembry, then who?
the eye test has him as the best of the bunch. St Joe's is a middle of the pack A10 team that would just be lousy without him. Believing the team has to get to a certain level for an individual player of the team to be regarded as the best is illogical (channeling my inner volcan)
At least for me the query is who do I think is the best of the best in the A10, not who do I believe will be selected, which of course is a very different conversation.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 9 years ago

Kalinokski is probably the best player on the best team, it's probably between him and Sibert of Dayton

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

As K Mac says its between Kalinoski and Sibert and gives the edge to Sibert.
I think Kalinoski gets it. Davidson wins the A10 when most predicted Davidson to finish 12th, 13th or dead last at 14 in their first year in the A10.
Kalinoski was the best player on the team and carried them when Gibbs went out for 7 games with the meniscus knee injury.
Best player on the best team in the A10

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

Teams will be announced tomorrow

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 9 years ago

Getting Gibbs back when they did, saved Davidson, in terms of an NCAA bid.

On one hand, if he doesn't get hurt, they're even more impressive than they were.

However, if he doesn't come back in time, they lose a couple more, especially to us.

Gotta get the breaks. They did, VCU didn't.

Also winning the conference and being an NCAA lock now helps Kalinoski get the POY.

Without that happening, he probably doesn't.

Da_Process_Survivor · Unread post by **Da_Process_Survivor** » 9 years ago

the way VCU hit the skids shows that Weber is the POY to me. Havoc has disappeared without him.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

Player and Rookie of the Week

http://www.atlantic10.com/ViewArticle.d ... =209936019

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 9 years ago

Disano and Ian Nolan's take

http://t.co/OzTrsXG01P

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 9 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Bembry is terrific and is a no-brainer for first team. I don't think he is POY, though, for the same reason I didn't think ARod was the MVP on a last place Rangers team.

This viewpoint drives me nuts. Where do you draw the line? 7th place, 8th place? Only taking teams that win the league? Or make NCAAs? The valuable in MVP is a semantics discussion that blowhard sportswriters use in look at me columns. Every person on every team has value. And this is Player of the Year. Not MVP. It should be the best player in the league. In my mind, it's the first guy you would take in a game of 5 on 5 if you lined every A10 player up. It's not always the best player on a winner.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 9 years ago

twisted3829 wrote:Disano and Ian Nolan's take

http://t.co/OzTrsXG01P

Eric paschal as rookie of the year? I'd take his teammate on Fordham over him. Sorry but I don't even see Paschal as first team all rookie. Speaking offense only possibly but throw in the defense and no.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 9 years ago

I had the same first team as Nolan and KMac.

Ashcat · Unread post by **Ashcat** » 9 years ago

Bleacher Report has put out their regular season awards. E.C. Matthews was named first team A-10.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 9 years ago

If it was Most VALUABLE Player, it would have to be
Briante Webber, hands down.
VCU collapsed after he went out, and HVOC became
a passe term.
The best player is Bembry, and should be POY.
Is there confusion as to the criteria on this award?

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