So...Stone is making contact with players before Arch?section(105) wrote: ↑4 months agoI am gonna take stab at this. Arch, no. Thorr, no but retains final approval brought to him by Stone. Stone initial and direct dealing with players/agents, Parlange, no. Arch makes the call on players he wants. Sound reasonable ? and whoever it is has to be able act quickly.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 months ago I mentioned that a week ago...if the players have agents, why don't the schools have GMs? Who deals with the agents for Rhody? Arch? Thorr? Stone? Parlange? Stevie?
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Mmmmmmmm,, maybe. Arch says get me player X?NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 months agoSo...Stone is making contact with players before Arch?section(105) wrote: ↑4 months agoI am gonna take stab at this. Arch, no. Thorr, no but retains final approval brought to him by Stone. Stone initial and direct dealing with players/agents, Parlange, no. Arch makes the call on players he wants. Sound reasonable ? and whoever it is has to be able act quickly.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 months ago I mentioned that a week ago...if the players have agents, why don't the schools have GMs? Who deals with the agents for Rhody? Arch? Thorr? Stone? Parlange? Stevie?
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https://247sports.com/season/2024-baske ... ncommittedsection(105) wrote: ↑4 months ago Could be wrong here, but I recall someone posted 70ish? Of bigs in the portal.
Here's the list. A bunch of guys left.
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Quickly and with stealth. Don’t want to take the risk of Rhody Vault pulling a Tre Mitchellsection(105) wrote: ↑4 months agoI am gonna take stab at this. Arch, no. Thorr, no but retains final approval brought to him by Stone. Stone initial and direct dealing with players/agents, Parlange, no. Arch makes the call on players he wants. Sound reasonable ? and whoever it is has to be able act quickly.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 months ago I mentioned that a week ago...if the players have agents, why don't the schools have GMs? Who deals with the agents for Rhody? Arch? Thorr? Stone? Parlange? Stevie?
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To use the Bill Parcells analogy, Archie shops for the groceries, Stone pays at checkout?ramster wrote: ↑4 months agoQuickly and with stealth. Don’t want to take the risk of Rhody Vault pulling a Tre Mitchellsection(105) wrote: ↑4 months agoI am gonna take stab at this. Arch, no. Thorr, no but retains final approval brought to him by Stone. Stone initial and direct dealing with players/agents, Parlange, no. Arch makes the call on players he wants. Sound reasonable ? and whoever it is has to be able act quickly.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 months ago I mentioned that a week ago...if the players have agents, why don't the schools have GMs? Who deals with the agents for Rhody? Arch? Thorr? Stone? Parlange? Stevie?
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I believe it is Stone and Bennyramster wrote: ↑4 months agoMaybe the new guy filling the Kenny Johnson vacancy? ECR? Rambone78? You?NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 months ago I mentioned that a week ago...if the players have agents, why don't the schools have GMs? Who deals with the agents for Rhody? Arch? Thorr? Stone? Parlange? Stevie?
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BattleTested wrote: ↑4 months agoI believe it is Stone and Bennyramster wrote: ↑4 months agoMaybe the new guy filling the Kenny Johnson vacancy? ECR? Rambone78? You?NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 months ago I mentioned that a week ago...if the players have agents, why don't the schools have GMs? Who deals with the agents for Rhody? Arch? Thorr? Stone? Parlange? Stevie?
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I feel like this is being made unnecessarily difficult to understand. Nothing really changed except that players have a legal bank of money to get paid from.section(105) wrote: ↑4 months agoI am gonna take stab at this. Arch, no. Thorr, no but retains final approval brought to him by Stone. Stone initial and direct dealing with players/agents, Parlange, no. Arch makes the call on players he wants. Sound reasonable ? and whoever it is has to be able act quickly.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 months ago I mentioned that a week ago...if the players have agents, why don't the schools have GMs? Who deals with the agents for Rhody? Arch? Thorr? Stone? Parlange? Stevie?
Coaches still scout/recruit players they want. They talk about all manner of things - playing time, playing style, goals, life, etc. I'm sure in the course of these conversations, now legally, how much they're looking for financially is brought up.
Just because there's legal money to be made doesn't mean no one recruits for fit/style/ability etc. Just like when it's a job you're hunting for you're not going to interview for doctor's jobs if you don't have medical experience. If you're a sales guy, you probably interview for a bunch of different sales jobs based on fit/skills/match and then you talk salary range to see if it's worth pursuing.
I am sure the coaching staff is aware of the budget that the collective has, and has an idea of what they can spend per player, per position, etc.
Just like in the past, if there's an extenuating circumstance of some absurd player who would be a great fit if the money were right, then Arch picks up the phone and calls Tom and asks if we can find more funding.
It feels like people are intentionally diluting themselves to make this a significantly more complex problem than it is.
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Do people really think Stone Freeman, someone with absolutely ZERO collegiate coaching or recruiting experience, is reaching out to prospective transfers before anyone else?
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Actually, since I'm sure people are going to cry AMATEURISM IS DEAD or WHAT HAPPENED TO COLLEGE SPORTS (while deploying the cognitive dissonance and naivety to pretend no players were ever getting paid before or that P5's have always had a leg up on facilities, etc) - this is literally no different than how most people go to college.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 months agoI feel like this is being made unnecessarily difficult to understand. Nothing really changed except that players have a legal bank of money to get paid from.section(105) wrote: ↑4 months agoI am gonna take stab at this. Arch, no. Thorr, no but retains final approval brought to him by Stone. Stone initial and direct dealing with players/agents, Parlange, no. Arch makes the call on players he wants. Sound reasonable ? and whoever it is has to be able act quickly.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 months ago I mentioned that a week ago...if the players have agents, why don't the schools have GMs? Who deals with the agents for Rhody? Arch? Thorr? Stone? Parlange? Stevie?
Coaches still scout/recruit players they want. They talk about all manner of things - playing time, playing style, goals, life, etc. I'm sure in the course of these conversations, now legally, how much they're looking for financially is brought up.
Just because there's legal money to be made doesn't mean no one recruits for fit/style/ability etc. Just like when it's a job you're hunting for you're not going to interview for doctor's jobs if you don't have medical experience. If you're a sales guy, you probably interview for a bunch of different sales jobs based on fit/skills/match and then you talk salary range to see if it's worth pursuing.
I am sure the coaching staff is aware of the budget that the collective has, and has an idea of what they can spend per player, per position, etc.
Just like in the past, if there's an extenuating circumstance of some absurd player who would be a great fit if the money were right, then Arch picks up the phone and calls Tom and asks if we can find more funding.
It feels like people are intentionally diluting themselves to make this a significantly more complex problem than it is.
You look at a bunch of schools. Maybe you look at where your friends go, the teams your rooted for as a kid, maybe the activities, maybe you know someone that works there, maybe your family went there, etc, etc, etc. Then what's the next conversation? HOW MUCH FINANCIAL AID AM I GETTING? If it's not enough, but everything else fits, maybe you look to find a job.
Unless you're a D1 athlete, and you literally do not have time for a job.
And just so we're clear for the "the scholarship should be enough" camp - 99.9% of everyone else at school isn't doing anything to actually make the school any money. The basketball players can literally make the schools tens of thousands to millions of dollars based on their performance.
All of the other kids on academic scholarships can do what they want in their free time. No additional practice schedules. No traveling for games. No requirement for early morning or late night practices crammed around class schedules. Nope, literally working to make the university more money and more visible for prospective students, all while having no ability to make money outside of their sport without something like NIL.
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Obviously he hasn't played much so it's hard to know what kind of an impact he'll have. But seeing stuff like this is at least encouraging. We need a couple of these types of guys badly.
“You need one, two or three of those types of people on a basketball team, and Drissa is the consummate culture person,” Pitino told the New York Post in December. “It’s all about the team, whether he gets in or doesn’t get in, he’s going to be the best cheerleader on the bench.”
“You need one, two or three of those types of people on a basketball team, and Drissa is the consummate culture person,” Pitino told the New York Post in December. “It’s all about the team, whether he gets in or doesn’t get in, he’s going to be the best cheerleader on the bench.”
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6’8 with a 40% 3 point shot and Big East experience. Perfect wing depth for Green.
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He made 7 three pointers in 2 years at St. John's. And if you think he's a shooter, he shot 30% on free throws(3-10). Small sample size for both, but I wouldn't say shooting is a strength.
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Traore was way down the list of guys I wanted.. He plays hard and seems to be a good person in the locker room but it doesn't excite me much. Let's see what happens.
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I love a good culture guy. I'll be cheering him on.
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Come on man, you're better than this. Can't post "40% 3 point shot" without context.
He was 6-15 this past season on 3s. Those 3s were in blowouts against Michigan, Sacred Heart, Fordham, Xavier, Villanova.
Went 1-6 in his freshman year, with the make coming in a blowout against Creighton.
7-21 for his career from 3.
He's made zero meaningful 3s in his career.
3-10 for his career from the FT line.
A terrible shooter by all accounts.
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Could be a fine bench piece, but i would still really like a big that could make an instant impact. Atiki Ally Atiki from BYU or Mohamed Wague from Alabama
I have no knowledge of us even contacting them, just my dream commitments
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If he can rebound, play some defense, and be the hard working type player that Pitino described then that's good enough for me. Still more work to be done to finish off the roster.
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Cmon. You must be joking! Is this how it is going to go on everyone who commits here? How about let’s see what he can do and give him a chance go compete in the front court. He wasn’t highly rated coming out of High School. No one really knows how he will perform here. A complete guess
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as a fan (not an owner) i hope he works out and helps with a lot of victories to our beloved rams
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lmao. This is so wild.
This is a player who is expected to play 8 mins a night at most. He is bench depth. Are we not allowed to say incendiary phrases like "perfect wing depth?"
Are we really nitpicking bench players now?
Just so I can keep up - I heard it wasn't cool to look in depth at America East players, definitely wasn't fashionable to watch highlight packages or whole games - but now skimming the stats for guys who will not be in competition for major minutes is also wrong?
This fanbase is so incredible.
There will be more posts responding to me grabbing a stat about an end of the rotation guy, then there will being happy that we added WING DEPTH (meaning he will be on the bench) of an upperclassman from a P6 school who played for a HOF coach.
Like...are we even URI fans? Some of you are so God damn miserable that I'm not sure you'd know how to be happy. If Archie gets us back to the tournament most of you should keep your mouths shut because you'll just find ways to explain how we should all be miserable regardless. Holy shit find another hobby some of you.
This is a player who is expected to play 8 mins a night at most. He is bench depth. Are we not allowed to say incendiary phrases like "perfect wing depth?"
Are we really nitpicking bench players now?
Just so I can keep up - I heard it wasn't cool to look in depth at America East players, definitely wasn't fashionable to watch highlight packages or whole games - but now skimming the stats for guys who will not be in competition for major minutes is also wrong?
This fanbase is so incredible.
There will be more posts responding to me grabbing a stat about an end of the rotation guy, then there will being happy that we added WING DEPTH (meaning he will be on the bench) of an upperclassman from a P6 school who played for a HOF coach.
Like...are we even URI fans? Some of you are so God damn miserable that I'm not sure you'd know how to be happy. If Archie gets us back to the tournament most of you should keep your mouths shut because you'll just find ways to explain how we should all be miserable regardless. Holy shit find another hobby some of you.
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agreed.. i think we should be more positive
i hope he works out
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Ok...we get it....y'all want "bigs"....
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I have no beef with this signing, welcome aboard.
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I'm cool with it.
I would not be cool with it if they expect to play him as the 5.
Him backing up Green makes sense though. Guy that comes in, plays hard, two years at a Big East achool and is a good teammate. I figured we would get someone like that. Doubted we add anybody that would challenge Green for minutes.
I would not be cool with it if they expect to play him as the 5.
Him backing up Green makes sense though. Guy that comes in, plays hard, two years at a Big East achool and is a good teammate. I figured we would get someone like that. Doubted we add anybody that would challenge Green for minutes.
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So, do you think they just are not looking at players that are better than what's on the team currently?PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 months ago I'm cool with it.
I would not be cool with it if they expect to play him as the 5.
Him backing up Green makes sense though. Guy that comes in, plays hard, two years at a Big East achool and is a good teammate. I figured we would get someone like that. Doubted we add anybody that would challenge Green for minutes.
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Well they could be in play.PowderBlueButBetter wrote: ↑4 months ago Could be a fine bench piece, but i would still really like a big that could make an instant impact. Atiki Ally Atiki from BYU or Mohamed Wague from Alabama
I have no knowledge of us even contacting them, just my dream commitments
We bess not have Traore backing up Fuchs, so we could (should) pick up two guys that can play center.
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0.0% chance a 6'8 215 lb kid is playing centerPeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 months agoWell they could be in play.PowderBlueButBetter wrote: ↑4 months ago Could be a fine bench piece, but i would still really like a big that could make an instant impact. Atiki Ally Atiki from BYU or Mohamed Wague from Alabama
I have no knowledge of us even contacting them, just my dream commitments
We bess not have Traore backing up Fuchs, so we could (should) pick up two guys that can play center.
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I like it. I’m sure he’ll battle and could be a great fit. Played against great competition. Played for a good Johnnies squad so his minutes will go up.
Edit-Still need length in the paint. Hope that’s next.
Edit-Still need length in the paint. Hope that’s next.
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I think his comp is more Cyril Langevine as a ceiling. His physical profile is quite similar. Cyril too was ranked around 280 coming out of high school. Similarly built. I think we’d all sign up for that if he gets to that level of production. If Cyril went Big East instead of A10 he’d have had similar stats at this point.
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Not for Green's position. Why shouldn't they feel good about him? Who could they get that is better? What about team chemistry? Do you not want to keep a core group of your better plays to develop a team around?NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 months agoSo, do you think they just are not looking at players that are better than what's on the team currently?PeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 months ago I'm cool with it.
I would not be cool with it if they expect to play him as the 5.
Him backing up Green makes sense though. Guy that comes in, plays hard, two years at a Big East achool and is a good teammate. I figured we would get someone like that. Doubted we add anybody that would challenge Green for minutes.
Lawrence is better than anyone on the team. Bassy pushed Luis out. We've upgraded the roster and as far as small forwards go, we addressed that with Traore.
I hope we are looking for a 1b to Fuchs though. I'm with you there. Not just a back up guy. Need someone that can push Fuchs for minutes, because you don't want just one good big. 1 guy that could potentially be better and one depth guy.
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I didn’t realize this team was so stacked we were looking for players to play 8 min a game and be good in the locker room. We should be top 25, A10 champs and dancing next season!
How about getting better players than what you have on a lousy team and then what you have becomes the backups?
How about getting better players than what you have on a lousy team and then what you have becomes the backups?
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I wouldn’t say 0. I could see a situation where he is the 5 at times - depends who else we bring in. He was used to spell Soriano I’m pretty sure. Don’t forget Archie once had 6’5 Kendall Pollard at the 5 spot. If a guy can defend the position, rebound and be a paint presence undersized Centers have done well in our league.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 months ago0.0% chance a 6'8 215 lb kid is playing centerPeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 months agoWell they could be in play.PowderBlueButBetter wrote: ↑4 months ago Could be a fine bench piece, but i would still really like a big that could make an instant impact. Atiki Ally Atiki from BYU or Mohamed Wague from Alabama
I have no knowledge of us even contacting them, just my dream commitments
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That's what I'm afraid of...bigappleram wrote: ↑4 months agoI wouldn’t say 0. I could see a situation where he is the 5 at times - depends who else we bring in. He was used to spell Soriano I’m pretty sure. Don’t forget Archie once had 6’5 Kendall Pollard at the 5 spot. If a guy can defend the position, rebound and be a paint presence undersized Centers have done well in our league.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 months ago0.0% chance a 6'8 215 lb kid is playing centerPeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 months ago
Well they could be in play.
We bess not have Traore backing up Fuchs, so we could (should) pick up two guys that can play center.
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BAR is noted for his hate of 0.0% chance.bigappleram wrote: ↑4 months agoI wouldn’t say 0. I could see a situation where he is the 5 at times - depends who else we bring in. He was used to spell Soriano I’m pretty sure. Don’t forget Archie once had 6’5 Kendall Pollard at the 5 spot. If a guy can defend the position, rebound and be a paint presence undersized Centers have done well in our league.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 months ago0.0% chance a 6'8 215 lb kid is playing centerPeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 months ago
Well they could be in play.
We bess not have Traore backing up Fuchs, so we could (should) pick up two guys that can play center.
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I just don't get the idea why, with hundreds of players out there, there is any thought on getting bench guys. They should be looking for guys that can start...until there is an established group of successful starters (as indicated by Ws and Ls, not "feelz")
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If you can’t upgrade this roster then we are in trouble.
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What's our culture?
Or is he bringing his own?
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Out of necessity. That Dayton team had 6 scholarship players available when they made that tourney run. Both their 6'9 starting center and 6'9 backup center got kicked off the team in December for robbing dorm rooms. Pollard most definitely wasn't recruited as their center.bigappleram wrote: ↑4 months agoI wouldn’t say 0. I could see a situation where he is the 5 at times - depends who else we bring in. He was used to spell Soriano I’m pretty sure. Don’t forget Archie once had 6’5 Kendall Pollard at the 5 spot. If a guy can defend the position, rebound and be a paint presence undersized Centers have done well in our league.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 months ago0.0% chance a 6'8 215 lb kid is playing centerPeterRamTime wrote: ↑4 months ago
Well they could be in play.
We bess not have Traore backing up Fuchs, so we could (should) pick up two guys that can play center.
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You guys are OK with getting backups for guys who finished in 12th place in the A10? That's what our new practice facility and increase in NIL money gets us? Wow, expectations have become really low.
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Yes, they have. Although I do not think we are by any means done yet.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago You guys are OK with getting backups for guys who finished in 12th place in the A10? That's what our new practice facility and increase in NIL money gets us? Wow, expectations have become really low.
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See this is the lighthearted content we need more of from you. We know you’re capable.Rhody15 wrote: ↑4 months agoBAR is noted for his hate of 0.0% chance.bigappleram wrote: ↑4 months agoI wouldn’t say 0. I could see a situation where he is the 5 at times - depends who else we bring in. He was used to spell Soriano I’m pretty sure. Don’t forget Archie once had 6’5 Kendall Pollard at the 5 spot. If a guy can defend the position, rebound and be a paint presence undersized Centers have done well in our league.
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- Ernie Calverley
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I mean there's a couple of things.RIFan wrote: ↑4 months ago I didn’t realize this team was so stacked we were looking for players to play 8 min a game and be good in the locker room. We should be top 25, A10 champs and dancing next season!
How about getting better players than what you have on a lousy team and then what you have becomes the backups?
1) everyone is looking to portal so you have to be delicate these days in who you go after and when you go after them. If you recruit someone clearly better than Fuchs AND announce it before the May 1 portal deadline - what's to stop him from leaving?
2) if you recruit over players every year with transfers, you risk the whole "starting over" thing with a brand new roster and it's clear that doesn't work. Obviously Archie values Fuchs and saw enough in him earlier in the year (when a lot of us were questioning it) and he wants Fuchs as his guy in the middle.
3) you have 13 spots on a team. There are 5 players on the floor at a time. In reality, you have to recruit guys for the bottom of your bench as well.
With #3 specifically, are we not supposed to be the least bit excited for a kid who wants to play for our team...specifically a guy who probably knows he's not coming in to play a lot of minutes? So the collective reaction here is to shit on him? With the way a lot of posters are talking, I thought playing for Archie was supposed to suck and no one wanted to do it so shouldn't we be thrilled anyone wants to come to Kingston? Especially to play in front of this super awesome, knowledgeable, and supportive fanbase?
Sorry Arch couldn't get Donovan Clingan to forego the NBA draft and get him to transfer here.
I feel like I say it a lot. But the overwhelming majority of this fanbase blows.
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- Ernie Calverley
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I'm convinced we could win the national championship and there would be posts the next morning about why it's actually a bad thing and we're screwed for the future or something.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 months ago Like...are we even URI fans? Some of you are so God damn miserable that I'm not sure you'd know how to be happy. If Archie gets us back to the tournament most of you should keep your mouths shut because you'll just find ways to explain how we should all be miserable regardless. Holy shit find another hobby some of you.
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We finished 11th.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago You guys are OK with getting backups for guys who finished in 12th place in the A10? That's what our new practice facility and increase in NIL money gets us? Wow, expectations have become really low.
I mean does anyone have any perspective on here?
We already got two starters (conveniently ignored right now) Lawrence was better than anyone on the roster and we upgraded at PG.
Land one guy that fills a need because we need depth behind David Green.
Should Green not be the starter? Do we have to recruit over everyone every year until we catch lightning in a bottle?
Literally everyone gets depth guys. Heaven forbid Archie believe in David Green who practically had to carry the team at times. Who tf was going to come in here to split time with Green? Why would Green stay if we got someome as good or better? Why even look? How is he not good enough?
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1000% accurate.adam914 wrote: ↑4 months agoI'm convinced we could win the national championship and there would be posts the next morning about why it's actually a bad thing and we're screwed for the future or something.Blue Man wrote: ↑4 months ago Like...are we even URI fans? Some of you are so God damn miserable that I'm not sure you'd know how to be happy. If Archie gets us back to the tournament most of you should keep your mouths shut because you'll just find ways to explain how we should all be miserable regardless. Holy shit find another hobby some of you.