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Postby RhowdyRam02 » 1 month ago

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URI'21 wrote:Bracket Matrix ranks the most accurate bracketologists in the last 5 years, and Lunardi isn't one of the top 5... or top 10... or top 25... he's #40 and yet he's the face of bracket predictions. Damn ESPN.


#1 rated bracket on the matrix is Bracketville.

They have us as a 6 seed slated to play the winner of Bama/Washington, for the right to play #3 UNC or #14 W&M.

At the rate we are going and the A10 is going, 6 seed seems fairly likely. Just need to continue to handle our business.

https://bracketville.wordpress.com/bracketology/

**As an FYI. Bracket Matrix complies all the data from final mock brackets before selection sunday for the past 5 years. They award points based on in/out of the field, and seeding/seeding close to the actual number. Having the #1 ranking as a bracket in the matrix means that they have been consistently the most accurate over the last 5 years in accurately predicting the field and their seeds.


Which is why that's the one I keep posting and I ignore the Lunardi ones
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Not unless you are a donor.

You'll have the opportunity as a season ticket holder, but availability will depend on your priority point standing as a donor.

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Postby RF1 » 1 month ago

The RPI moved up to #13 this morning. This may be the ceiling for the rest of the year. URI is not likely to get much of a boost playing (even with winning) A-10 games given the weakness of the league this season.

Screenshot-2018-1-17 Live-RPI com.png





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josephski wrote:I find the love for Bobby and Arizona St on here pretty weird. I don't think I ever saw Dayton fans rooting from Arizona because of the coaches being brothers and I definitely haven't seen Indiana fans rooting for Arizona. I doubt Arizona St fans feel the way towards us as some people on here feel towards them.


Some people got to know Bobby when he was at URI for a year. Other people go way back with them.


Bobby just landed his 2nd 5 star recruit for next year

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josephski wrote:I find the love for Bobby and Arizona St on here pretty weird. I don't think I ever saw Dayton fans rooting from Arizona because of the coaches being brothers and I definitely haven't seen Indiana fans rooting for Arizona. I doubt Arizona St fans feel the way towards us as some people on here feel towards them.


Some people got to know Bobby when he was at URI for a year. Other people go way back with them.


Bobby just landed his 2nd 5 star recruit for next year

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And I'm sure Dan takes notice.
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Let’s stay on topic of Bracketology and RPI metrics.
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RF1 wrote:The RPI moved up to #13 this morning. This may be the ceiling for the rest of the year. URI is not likely to get much of a boost playing (even with winning) A-10 games given the weakness of the league this season.

Screenshot-2018-1-17 Live-RPI com.png




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http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html


That depends obviously, but according to RPI wizard running through the A10 with only one or two losses the rest of the way will give us a top 10 RPI.
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Postby Rhody74 » 1 month ago

We're at 11 as of 10:17 pm. ;-)
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Postby RF1 » 1 month ago

Rhody74 wrote:We're at 11 as of 10:17 pm. ;-)


I thought a game with UMass would have a negative impact. It didn't. Seton Hall losing however did help as they had been ahead of Rhody.

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Postby theblueram » 1 month ago

If we are an 8/9 seed, I love the bracketing with Villanova. Although I would love to be the 6th seed in the East in this latest bracket.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology
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8 seed per Joey bag of bullshit. But I’ll take it.
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Postby rhodysurf » 1 month ago

Fun twitter takes from Joey brackets if you follow him. Lots of rhody talk. Says he thinks they deserve a 6 probably but committee hates A10 recently so that’s why he goes 8 seed
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Postby TruePoint » 1 month ago

Strongly agree. I've said something similar in previous years, although my argument is slightly different. While I agree with everything Lunardi says here, I think the best argument went unsaid in the article: a team that is 7-9 in the ACC has had their chance. We know where they stack up against elite teams - beating a good team or two on your home floor out of a half-dozen-plus chances doesn't prove anything but the law of averages - whereas we legitimately don't know where Illinois State stacked up last year or Bonnies two years ago. Maybe they are really good teams that played a bad game at an inopportune time in their conference tournament; a 7-9 team may be OK, but we know it isn't really good. If it were, it wouldn't be 7-9. Those teams have had the opportunity to show their worth and they failed, so give other teams the opportunity by giving them the bid.
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Postby reef » 1 month ago

I agree with this also. .500 in conference play makes sense and still adds added intrigue in their conf tourney game to finish over .500 if they win
I hate teams that go 7-9 in conference or 8-10 and they still get a bid
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Postby rambone 78 » 1 month ago

Should be a requirement that to get a bid, you have to finish at least .500 in conference.
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Illinois State got boned last year but I think Uri/PC beat them out.
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Rhodymob05 wrote:Illinois State got boned last year but I think Uri/PC beat them out.


Maybe but the point is that there should be criteria in place that would allow URI and Illinois State to make it while leaving the 28th best P5 team at home. It shouldn’t always be pitting the URIs and Illinois States against each other for one of 4 or 5 “mid-major” spots.
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theblueram wrote:If we are an 8/9 seed, I love the bracketing with Villanova. Although I would love to be the 6th seed in the East in this latest bracket.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology


I don’t think that’s possible. Usually you only get preferential seeding (closest bracket to home for 2nd weekend games) as a top 4 seed.

Also if I remember correctly Illinois state played a shit schedule OOC, played in a shit conference, and didn’t beat anyone.

That’s why rpi is seen as a less attractive metric because if you just take care of business against shit teams your rpi will look good.
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Postby Rhodyhooopz » 1 month ago

Bracketville has us where we belong as a 5 seed.

https://bracketville.wordpress.com/bracketology/
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Rhodyhooopz wrote:Bracketville has us where we belong as a 5 seed.

https://bracketville.wordpress.com/bracketology/



5 Seed vs 12 seed South Dakota St. in BOSTON, could you imagine?
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Mob that game is on west coast. The sweet sixteen round is in Boston
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Rhodyhooopz wrote:Mob that game is on west coast. The sweet sixteen round is in Boston


Crap you're right, San Diego, damnit.
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Postby adam914 » 1 month ago

A 5 seed playing in San Diego...now that would work just fine for me!
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Postby Rhodysk » 1 month ago

Just seen this on my lunch break.
#5 seed? WOW! That has to be the highest I ever seen for URI!
Also 2nd round game vs Ohio St and a sweet sixteen/elite eight game in BOSTON!
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Rhodysk wrote:Just seen this on my lunch break.
#5 seed? WOW! That has to be the highest I ever seen for URI!
Also 2nd round game vs Ohio St and a sweet sixteen/elite eight game in BOSTON!
Things are really good in Rhodyland!
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*knocks on wood*

lol lets get there first. I remember having lunch in college talking about how high of a seed we could possibly have then we collapsed like no other down the stretch and missed the tournament.

Love being in the discussion right now, still gotta take care of the work.
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Postby RF1 » 4 weeks ago

RPI as of 5:16pm on Saturday 01/20/18 is now #10:

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Postby urirx » 4 weeks ago

RPI 10
BPI 32
Sagarin 32
Pomeroy 29
Last 10: 10-0
Conference: 7-0
Overall 15-3

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Postby Rhody74 » 4 weeks ago

We're no longer playing for an at-large selection. We're playing for a better seed.
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I think the best we can do if we run table rest of year would be a 4 seed ???
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Postby RhodyKyle » 4 weeks ago

reef wrote:I think the best we can do if we run table rest of year would be a 4 seed ???


That would be fantastic - to be able to face the winner of the 5/12 match-up for a trip to the Sweet 16 and avoid any of the truly premier programs in the first weekend.
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Rhodyhooopz wrote:Bracketville has us where we belong as a 5 seed.

https://bracketville.wordpress.com/bracketology/



Wow ! They have LSU in a play in game team is 11-7 with an rpi of 103 .
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Postby URI'21 » 4 weeks ago

The Bonnies dropped down to a 52 RPI, would LOVE for them to be in the top 50 come selection sunday.

Also Iona bumped up to 100 which is very nice. Turns a mediocre win into a top 100 one.

Dayton and Davidson are both on the fringes of the top 100, we should be rooting for them every game (not against us, duh) that way they can secure their top 100 RPIs.

That would leave us the potential of having NINE top 100 wins at the end of the regular season
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Postby ATPTourFan » 4 weeks ago

Remember no more top 50 or 100 Wins exist for the selection committee.
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Postby TruePoint » 4 weeks ago

Per rpi forecast, there is a 97% chance we finish with a sub-30 rpi. That's pretty incredible. About a 70% chance we finish with a sub-20 RPI.
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Postby URI'21 » 4 weeks ago

Very true. Completely blanked on their new system there.

I should be acknowledging the importance of teams like Dayton, VCU and Davidson keeping their RPI in the top 135, that way our away games there count for quadrant 2 wins.

Also, if Dayton (94) gets hot and manages to get their RPI to 75, yesterday's game will be quadrant 1
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Postby Billyboy78 » 4 weeks ago

Can we dream of a 4 seed? Imagine being the favorite in both of our first 2 games? That's how important every game is. If we get a couple of losses, that's not happening, dropping to a 6,7 or 8. We are favored in every game the rest of the regular season. Yes, it will be difficult to go 18-0, but not impossible.
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Postby Ramulous » 4 weeks ago

My opinion is that because of P5 bias the Rams will not be a 4 or a 5 seed this year.....the poor condition of the A10 is the reason.....a 6 would be obtainable in my opinion and would be the best seed I could remember for us
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Postby bigappleram » 4 weeks ago

Agree w/Ramulous, even if we run table can’t see a 4.
5-8 is probably our window, due to the A10 struggles. I’d be just fine with 5-7.
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Postby Justns11 » 4 weeks ago

I think if we finish undefeated in the A10, with a top 10 RPI, there's no way we wouldn't be a 4 seed. Otherwise, somewhere between 5-8, depending upon how many loses we end up with. I'm predicting 16-2, with a couple "good" road losses (Davidson & Bonnies).
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If we ran the table you're looking at an RPI of about 4. The other metrics that don't love us quite as much as RPI - KenPom, Sagarin, BPI, etc., would also continue to get better over the course of another 14 straight wins. I don't think that team would be a 6 seed. Wichita has gotten 1 seeds playing in a much worse conference than the A10 is this year. A team that is 29-3 with an RPI of 4 is not going to be a 5 or 6 seed.

I think this is all academic because the chances of running the table aren't good even if we will be favored in every game. But mathematically I think it is possible to do better than a 5 seed.
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bigappleram wrote:Agree w/Ramulous, even if we run table can’t see a 4.
5-8 is probably our window, due to the A10 struggles. I’d be just fine with 5-7.


Agree, i can’t see the committee giving us a #4 seed, I would be pretty stoked with a 5 or 6
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Postby Billyboy78 » 4 weeks ago

So, even if we win out, go 18-0, 29-3 , have a 24 game winning streak and are ranked around 10th (no, I am not saying all those things are going to happen), the best we can do is a 5 or 6 seed? That really sucks.
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Billyboy78 wrote:So, even if we win out, go 18-0, 29-3 , have a 24 game winning streak and are ranked around 10th (no, I am not saying all those things are going to happen), the best we can do is a 5 or 6 seed? That really sucks.


That would suck, idk maybe it’s me I just have no faith in the committee giving us a 4 and a 4 would be the right call if we did run the table, maybe ur right though

The committee just blows though, maybe that will change because of the new quadrant wins/rankings and will help us
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Postby TruePoint » 4 weeks ago

Billyboy - I think that's an emotional argument people are making. In the scenario you outlined (or I outlined above), that team is more likely to get a 2 seed than a 6 seed, more likely to get a 3 seed than a 5 seed, and most likely is a 4 seed.
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