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Interesting read about UMASS athletics

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UMass is trying to do too much. It does not have the resources or fan base to support three successful major D1 sports - FBS football, Men's D1 Basketball, and Men's D1 Hockey. In the end, none of them can succeed. While URI certainly has its own issues (basketball team not doing as well as expected and a perpetually bad FCS football team), it is still not as bad in Kingston as it is in Amherst.

UMass FBS Football is in a very precarious place with no conference affiliation and no reasonable home stadium solution (Gillette is too big and far away and McGuirk is not big enough nor have enough amenities to attract a better conference or name opponents). The location of Amherst also works against the school as its distance from the Boston population center hurts. We always hear how far URI is from Providence. Amherst is 3x the distance and is more out of sight and mind to those living in Boston than URI is to anyone in RI.
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Neither UMASS nor URI has been able to fully replace their big name basketball coach.
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Postby rambone 78 » 2 years ago

Rosie, maybe Coach K would want a nice easy gig after he leaves Duke....

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Ramblinrose wrote:Neither UMASS nor URI has been able to fully replace their big name basketball coach.


At least URI has multiple coaches (3) that won an NCAA game. Only one UMass basketball coach (Calipari) has ever won an NCAA game. One might say they were much more dependent on their big name coach.
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Postby Ramblinrose » 2 years ago

Grasping at straws. Both programs have been non-entities for years.
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Postby Ramblinrose » 2 years ago

UMASS looks ridiculous trying to compete at 1-A football.
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Ramblinrose wrote:UMASS looks ridiculous trying to compete at 1-A football.


Totally agree, but....not sure Rhody fans are in a position to be critical of anyone else's football program...are they?
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Postby steviep123 » 2 years ago

If UMass is serious about div I football, then unfortunately their best bet is to find a FBS conference for all sports (C-USA, American, MAC). If they can't find an FBS conference, then they should drop back to FCS. I don't want URI to lose a long time rival and partner in the A10, but that's what would likely have to happen unless UMass goes back to FCS.
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Postby rambone 78 » 2 years ago

They were in the MAC for football. They aren't going back there.

If they go anywhere, I would think AAC. And that's only if that conference has room for them. They probably want to join UConn, but UConn wants out.....

Based on the TV money the AAC gets, even that's a stretch. Their travel costs would be astronomical.

Plus their facilities would be bottom feeder level.

They are in a no win situation staying where they are......
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Postby Ramblinrose » 2 years ago

URI should kill football. It loses moeny, the facilities are awful and there's little interest. But at least URU didn't invest tons in moving to D-1.
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Postby Gonebarongone » 2 years ago

Big XII might realign this summer and maybe that leaves UMass with a spot in the AAC. That's about the only way Umass has a shot to pull out of this flat spin. And even that's sort of a long shot.
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Postby rambone 78 » 2 years ago

Imo this is our last gasp.

According to some, URI did pick up some decent CAA level talent this just concluded recruiting period.

If true, then it should start to reflect in the W-L record in the next year or two.

Then again, that's if Fleming can coach them up.

Who knows.
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Postby section(105) » 2 years ago

Drop football, raise hockey from club status.....with Fleming on board, that ship probably sailed....I am thinking there is enough lingering bolster support for football, Thorr here with part of his mission to build it?....this has been debated for quite some time....make football club.....
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Postby rambone 78 » 2 years ago

Before URI commits to any facility improvements, they have to see improvements on the field imo.

Fleming's got a couple more years to make that happen.

Or else, I think football is history. The moment of truth is approaching.

Just getting better talent isn't enough. He has to turn that talent into wins.
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Postby RhowdyRam02 » 2 years ago

Gonebarongone wrote:Big XII might realign this summer and maybe that leaves UMass with a spot in the AAC. That's about the only way Umass has a shot to pull out of this flat spin. And even that's sort of a long shot.


Is that still on the table? I thought the NCAA was going to allow them to have a football conference championship game with only ten schools. If they can do that, they probably won't expand, more revenue for Texas with only ten schools.
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Postby ramster » 2 years ago

This thread belongs in "All other college sports"

NCAA or Bust is for URI Basketball
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Postby RF1 » 2 years ago

UMass would love to get into the present AAC. It has had past rivalries with AAC members UConn and Temple. They would be the closest schools. The problem is UConn would never let UMass join while it was still a member. If UConn leaves (which it is desperately trying to do) and UMass is offered, the league is then not nearly as attractive. More so if other high profile members such as Cincinnati or Memphis bolt as UConn's exit would likely be tied to another conference realignment resulting in multiple moves. A future gutted AAC void of big names and spread out over much of the country might not be a good nor affordable option for UMass.

The UMass conference future has a great impact on URI. They are our only real true longtime rival in the A-10 and closest member school. If the A-10 continues its southern and western expansion strategy, Rhody becomes even more an outlier in the league. It will have even less influence and its travel costs will increase.
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Postby UCH21377 » 2 years ago

There's no single move. One move would lead to a number of others. But I haven't seen or read anything on that in a while. And as somebody mentioned I thought the Big 12 got approval to play a championship game? That could keep them from expanding. Texas calls the shots in that league anyway so i guess it's up to them.
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