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That's a shame. They were doing so well, too.

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They have to come back to the CAA now, right? If so, I called this years ago.

UMass trying to play FBS was always a hairbrained idea.
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They may be looking at the AAC is what I think.....especially if UConn has to stay there, too....
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Any idea if a move to AAC would be for all sports? Travel would still be an issue (except with UConn and maybe Temple)...
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Ramulous wrote:They may be looking at the AAC is what I think.....especially if UConn has to stay there, too....

The AAC would however still be an issue for all sports.

The lineup for the AAC going foward
UConn
Temple
East Carolina
South Florida
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Memphis
Tulsa
Tulane
Houston
Southern Methodist
Navy (football only)

I would guess UMass would love to be in a league with UConn but the Huskies (and Cinci for that matter) are doing all they can to get out. Long term moves should not be made with them in mind.
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I really don't see a fit for their football program.....unless a hybrid football-only conference/alliance like the CAA football is for FCS schools but for FBS schools with all their other sports spread out their home regions....
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If they can't make it in the MAC, how the hell are they going to make it in the AAC? That's a least a step up.

I don't see it.
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rambone 78 wrote:If they can't make it in the MAC, how the hell are they going to make it in the AAC? That's a least a step up.

I don't see it.
Not only that, but UConn is going to get out of that wasteland eventually. Then you are in a complete bastard conference with no other school anywhere near you, that isn't as good of a basketball league as the one you left and you're wasting a ton of money flying your swimming and field hockey teams all over the country just so your football team can get curb stomped every week by a bunch of middling FBS programs without a good bowl tie-in?
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They have stated they want to remain in FCS football, where are they going to go? The Sun Belt? Please.

I think they will end up where they should be: back in the CAA.
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They want to remain in fbs?
Or return to fcs?
I think you have them confused.
Fcs= IAA
Nobody ever confused IA and IAA.
Why the hell did they switch?
The ncaa, that is, with the division names.
You could ask the same about umass fb,
but that answer is obvious.
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fbs = football bowl subdivision (I-A play bowl games)
fcs = football championship subdivision (I-AA play a playoff)
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I think UMass should invent their own FBS conference. Invite the Yankee conference to go FBS with you and pull some crappy southern east coast teams with you.
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What an total disaster UMass football is!
Costing millions, getting nowhere. An embarrassment on and
off the field.
At least UConn went to a few bowl games. UConn can't go back, because they built
a football stadium.
UMass moved games to Gillette, far from Amherst. They did not make the error of
trying to build a stadium.
So, UMass is stuck, unless they rid themselves of their football madness.
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rodfromcranston wrote:What an total disaster UMass football is!
Costing millions, getting nowhere. An embarrassment on and
off the field.
At least UConn went to a few bowl games. UConn can't go back, because they built
a football stadium.
UMass moved games to Gillette, far from Amherst. They did not make the error of
trying to build a stadium.
So, UMass is stuck, unless they rid themselves of their football madness.

UConn lost their shirt in the bowl games they played.
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Captainron@ wrote:
rodfromcranston wrote:What an total disaster UMass football is!
Costing millions, getting nowhere. An embarrassment on and
off the field.
At least UConn went to a few bowl games. UConn can't go back, because they built
a football stadium.
UMass moved games to Gillette, far from Amherst. They did not make the error of
trying to build a stadium.
So, UMass is stuck, unless they rid themselves of their football madness.

UConn lost their shirt in the bowl games they played.
I'm not saying UConn's decision to play FBS football was a great one in light of where they are currently sitting in the conference realignment shuffle, but we'll see how it plays out. Having said that, you can't judge their decision to go FBS based on the financial results of one bowl game. I'm sure that situation hurt, but in the long term and stacked up against what they have invested, it was a relatively small amount of money. Making a BCS bowl game is worth taking a small financial hit in exchange for having your program validated. UConn took it's football program to FBS with the idea of making their athletic department one of the big boys and furthering their national brand. That goal has probably not been totally fulfilled, but they are light years ahead of UMass in that regard. UConn football is far from a powerhouse, but it is a credible program. They have resources and access to talent that UMass will never have.

tl:dr version is that the jury is still out on the ultimate success of UConn's move to FBS football, but they are on a different planet compared to UMass which can be ruled as an unmitigated disaster after just a few years and is already beyond salvation.
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FWIW, Little Red reports speculation in Storrs that UMass will try to get in to the AAU (or whatever the hell they call it). Wonder what Arrogant Haystack Calhoun would say about that?
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Neither UConn nor UMass are currently part of the AAU, and representatives of both schools have been quoted talking up the AAU recently. Between the two, I'd have to think UConn would be more likely to be selected. That's just based on my perception, which is that UConn is a favorite son in Connecticut while UMass, like URI, is largely ignored in the Bay State. Accordingly, I'd think the type of resources and financial support that would be necessary to elevate your programs to AAU levels are more available to UConn.
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I think he's talking about the AAC, not that AAU. Right now the AAC has Central Florida, Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, Memphis, South Florida, SMU, Temple, East Carolina, Tulane, and Tulsa as all sports members with Navy being football only. Add UMass and you have 12 full time members and add Army as football only and you have 14 for football.
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I said this much earlier in this thread....
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Ramulous wrote:I said this much earlier in this thread....
Yeah, but as I said earlier in this thread, that really isn't a good idea.
TruePoint wrote:UConn is going to get out of that wasteland eventually. Then you are in a complete bastard conference with no other school anywhere near you, that isn't as good of a basketball league as the one you left and you're wasting a ton of money flying your swimming and field hockey teams all over the country just so your football team can get curb stomped every week by a bunch of middling FBS programs without a good bowl tie-in?
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UCONN wants to get out, but where are they going to go? They've been trying to get out for 4 years and no one wants them. One conference will have to completely break apart for UCONN to rejoin the rejects of another conference. In all seriousness, the ACC is full leaving the B1G as the only option. Does the B1G want UCONN? Seems they prefer UVA/UNC possibility over UCONN.
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They may prefer UNC or UVA, but those schools would have to want to go. And if they did , that would create a spot for UConn. I hear what you're saying, but UConn ultimately brings too much to the table to be left out in the cold. It's a joke that BC and Rutgers and have a seat at the table and UConn doesn't. UConn has better athletics and much more support and resources than both of them, and is a good enough school in its own right to fit in either of those conferences.

These things always work themselves out, and I think this situation will eventually work out for UConn. It makes too much logical sense.
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Agree with you 100% TP.
Makes you wonder why PC fans think somehow they're better than UConn?
Three NCAA championships for the men and eight for the women, and a
BCS level football program.
Defies logic.
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Uconn & pc are huge rivals.
You always have to say you're better than your biggest rival.
If not, it's time to find a new rival.
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This is why I am rooting for UConn in the tournament......because PC fans dislike them as much as we dislike the friars .....
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PC is literally not better than UConn at one thing, other than maybe covering up sex crimes. There is no way they think they are better than UConn.
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They do think they are better.....
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At what? According to who?
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I ain't sayin they right....
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Right, but I'm asking who "they" are? Where are you getting that from? To even put themselves in he same sentence as UConn is delusional.
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Slightly OT, there's a guy on their board, BleedKeaneyBlue.
He claims he hates our board, but posts on the Scout board.
Make sense, to talk URI basketball on a PC board, right?
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AAC's Aresco on UMass: 'We don't have any plans to expand'
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UMass football FBS experiment is dealt another blow. What a mistake.
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So unless they can get in the acc...or big 10...or sec...or big 12...or pac 10...
Hahahahaha....
Well, there's the sun belt, as somebody mentioned.

Louisiana-Lafayette
Arkansas State
Louisiana-Monroe
South Alabama
Troy
Texas State
Georgia State
Appalachian St
Georgia Southern
Idaho
New Mexico St

Ok, there's c-usa.

Marshall
Middle Tennessee
Florida Atlantic
UAB
Florida International
Southern Miss
Rice
UTSA
North Texas
Louisiana Tech
UTEP
ODU
Charlotte
Western Kentucky

Not really feelin' it.
Mountain west, anybody?

Fresno State
San Diego State
San Jose State
UNLV
Nevada
Hawaii
Utah State
Boise State
Colorado State
Wyoming
New Mexico
Air Force

Looks like the american HAS to take em.
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I cannot believe that UConn is not going to another conference.....their properties are quite valuable.....especially with the ACC moving their basketball tournament to Barclay's.....their hoops programs alone seem a great fit with the ACC.....

....that leaves UMass as a replacement for UConn in the AAC for all their sports.....and leaves the A-10 looking for replacements for Dayton, St. Louis, UMass and any other schools heading to other conferences.....
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Ramulous wrote:I cannot believe that UConn is not going to another conference.....their properties are quite valuable.....especially with the ACC moving their basketball tournament to Barclay's.....their hoops programs alone seem a great fit with the ACC.....

....that leaves UMass as a replacement for UConn in the AAC for all their sports.....and leaves the A-10 looking for replacements for Dayton, St. Louis, UMass and any other schools heading to other conferences.....
Huh?
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Geez, that post by Ramulous makes him a candidate for the
Eeyore award or chicken little!
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Honestly, Rod. I can almost understand overreacting to bad news (although even that is annoying), but that is reacting to literally NOTHING. Haha. Making stuff up to panic about is the worst.
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Did Ramulous take over my job? Ha ha.

Seriously, I think UMass wants into the AAC for all sports. Maybe when UConn and maybe Cincy leave at some point. Since they have 2 more years in the MAC for football, maybe they are hoping that an opening comes up for them by that time. Of course, without UConn, how is that conference a good fit for them?

Until then, they are still A10 for hoops. As for Dayton and St. Louis leaving, that's not happening for a while. Dayton might never leave, since Xavier doesn't seem to want them in the BE.

Hopefully when that time comes, the A10's TV deal will be good enough to give those schools a good reason to stay put, anyway.
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I don't like to hide my head in the sand.....the big east's product sucks so much they will get pressure from the idiots at fox to go get good teams.....and offer $4M reasons to our $400K reasons.....sorry guys for my thoughts....
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You might be right on that in a couple of years.........unless there are currently unforeseen changes to that TV deal down the road.

Some of these BE guys seem to think the Fox deal is ironclad...I don't think they know any more than we do...I'm not so sure it is at all.

Buzz didn't seem to think so, but we really don't know the details of that either.
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Some really classless venom on the dark side,
being directed at UConn.
Maybe they should have the board color as green.
No matter what conference UConn is in, they'll always be
the better program.
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The ACC will have 16 basketball schools once Louisville officially becomes a member in the summer. The only caveat is that Notre Dame doesn't have their football there, and could become a pressure point if the ACC decides they want to have 16 football schools so they can have 2 8-team divisions. However, does not seem UCONN would get an invite to the ACC barring a collapse, leaving the 14 team B1G as the only option. I still speculate the B1G will expand by adding ACC teams, but we will have to see how that plays out.

And in response to your last post Rod, I think the venom many PC fans have for UCONN is no different than the venom many URI fans have for PC. PC has a huge alumni base in CT, so many people live in the middle of Huskyland and deal with that on a daily basis. But it's also why many PC fans valued the game against UCONN more than that against URI. The bragging rights gained by winning is territorial. PC fans living near Hartford (and there are many) had their bragging rights with Husky fans, therefore valuing that game more.
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Superfly: one thing you are saying continues to make no sense. You're saying there is no room for the UConn in the ACC, so it can't go there, and the B1G would prefer to add an ACC team, so it can't go there. Therefore, the two best spots for UConn to land closed off to it. Except that those two scenarios in which UConn is blocked are mutually exclusive and can't combine to prevent UConn from leaving the AAC.

If the ACC is full, UConn could still me present a chance to the B1G to get into New England and add a legitimate power basketball program, a viable football program and a quality state university with ample resources from a part of the country that is geographically palatable and from which they currently have no members.

If, on the other hand, the B1G would prefer ACC teams to UConn as you contend and it actually could get one (or likely two) of them to join, then there would suddenly be room for UConn in the ACC.
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You are right TP, but the problem with that scenario is that if the ACC gets gutted (say 2 teams go to the B1G, and some of the remaining powers go to the Big 12 and SEC as has been rumored in the past by football-first ACC teams not wanting to be driven by basketball schools), let's hypothesize that the ACC is left with 6-8 football schools. Who are those options? If ESPN is correct that football drives TV revenues, that ACC conference will not do it. Now, it will likely be a very good basketball conference, but for all the money UCONN has spent on their football program, they will still have to take a loss on it and accept defeat. I just have a hard time seeing any situation where UCONN football ends up in a BCS level football conference, and fully subscribe to the 4-16 team BCS conferences. I can still see them in a next-level, good basketball, bad football conference.
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rjsuperfly66 wrote:The ACC will have 16 basketball schools once Louisville officially becomes a member in the summer. The only caveat is that Notre Dame doesn't have their football there, and could become a pressure point if the ACC decides they want to have 16 football schools so they can have 2 8-team divisions.[/b]However, does not seem UCONN would get an invite to the ACC barring a collapse, leaving the 14 team B1G as the only option. I still speculate the B1G will expand by adding ACC teams, but we will have to see how that plays out.

And in response to your last post Rod, I think the venom many PC fans have for UCONN is no different than the venom many URI fans have for PC. PC has a huge alumni base in CT, so many people live in the middle of Huskyland and deal with that on a daily basis. But it's also why many PC fans valued the game against UCONN more than that against URI. The bragging rights gained by winning is territorial. PC fans living near Hartford (and there are many) had their bragging rights with Husky fans, therefore valuing that game more.

It struck me that Notre Dame agreed to play nearly] half of their schedule with ACC opponents. I believe that this link will illuminate an interesting discussion concerning this and UConn's options, the A-10, the NBE, etc.,http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/spec ... 12aaa.htmlPerhaps, ND will become part of the ACC's two 8-team divisions and retain four independent games, i.e., USC, Navy, Purdue, Ohio State, et al., That seems plausible, and the pot could be sweetened if ND retains its independent TV contract with NBC…..
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There are no other football programs that are much better than UConn that aren't already in a conference. If the ACC is raided again to the tune of 2 to 4 members they will be filled in with not necessarily this order: UConn, Cincy, Temple. Then a race for the fourth spot by UMass.

As much as BC wants them out - there is hatred there and I think these networks are going to realize soon that rivalries bring ratings. It will be the plight of the NBE, everyone in a circle jerk telling themselves they are great with no teams that hate each other. I actually hope that Dan Hurleys comments about Dayton spark something with their fan base. Let's build some hate in the conference.
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Notre Dame will always be independent, they make way too much money from their contract with NBC to join a conference

They get 15 million a year from NBC,
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Re: UMass Football Out of the MAC

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I wonder if there is ever a point financially where ND has to abandon independancy. For example, football/basketball Big 10 schools will probably being looking at an AAV around $50 million come 2017. I think Fox is going to drive the price up and ESPN will either have to find the way to financially commit or lose them. And the problem for ESPN is that if they pay B1G $50 million, the price of every conference goes up for them. If they don't, they can call Fox crazy and try to maintain their current structure.

But back to the point, if Big 10 schools are hypothetically getting $50 million per (and maybe even more if ND was a part of the negotiations), and Notre Dame is getting $18 million with their football/basketball combined, is the exposure of being NBC's baby 5 or 6 times a year worth the money they would lose by being in a great football conference? They would still get plenty of primetime and national TV games. Given past football rivalries, the B1G would be a perfect fit for the Irish.
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