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rambone 78

That's why the timing of any breakup, and resulting merger is so important to URI. Right now, URI doesn't have the "cache" needed, to be included with the A10 "9". In a year or two, it will, however, be a power to be reckoned with. That could be our saving grace in all this. If y...

rambone 78

Sorry, would be the top 9 from the A10, not 10.

I would think that the A10 would have to do it's own pruning of the 5 teams before any agreement with the C7 is reached.

That's going to be tough to do.

rambone 78

If the C7 and top 10 from the A10 join, PC shouldn't have any more power in deciding who is included than URI does. Should be an equal marriage.

Probaly would come down to a mutual agreement between the A10, the C7, and TV.

rambone 78

We will end up 5-8 OOC. Could have been 7-6, maybe even 8-5 if you throw out the last 5 minutes of a couple games. For my prediction to come true, we have to go 10-6 in conference. Whoops. Not happening. 6-10 looks about right. Somewhere between 10-12 wins, hopefully we avoid the dreaded 20 loss sea...

rambone 78

Seems like the President/AD would be open to moving, but their big [?] boosters don't want to. They should. They are in the PL for football, and they aren't that bad there. They would be a good fit BB wise also. There seems to be no desire to improve their BB facilities, even though they could proba...

rambone 78

Don't care, Sean. Hurley will beat his share of top 20 teams here at Rhody, probably starting next year.

Rhody might even be one themselves pretty soon.

If PC gets there too, then we'll have ourselves quite a rivalry, now won't we?

rambone 78

I would imagine that the subject of the meeting, was to keep everybody informed on what's happening or not happening to this point. I'm sure the A10 is keeping a close eye on things.

In terms of future decisions, who knows?

rambone 78

I'm sorry, that's a disaster scenario for URI. Hurley bolts as soon as he can if that happens. Would VCU or Richmond want to be part of that? That's a suckass conference. Bottom feeder city. URI would be, under Hurley, for as long as he's here, the best of a bad group. If that happens we're screwed,...

rambone 78

Fordham belongs in the MAAC. StBonaventure belongs with schools like Canisius also. That's where they fit. Low mid majors.

I can see keeping LaSalle and Duquesne, maybe even GW. But what would dropping only 2 schools do?

rambone 78

Of course Billy would have helped.

He also would have gotten better coaching, so he might even be better than what he's showing at Canisius.

It didn't happen. We are better off in the long run.

rambone 78

RIFan, maybe that's what will happen. We're all going to have to wait and see. Yes, the top of the A10, [X, Dayton, Butler, VCU] is every bit as good as the top of the BE7 [Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova]. The bottom 4 of the BE7, are roughly equal to the middle of the A10. It's the bottom of the ...

rambone 78

Canisius has some talented guards that are holdovers or transfers that were already coming in. Let's see how Baron recruits new players.

Like was already said, they'll blow it come conference tourney time.

rambone 78

Yes, and that way the 9 A10 teams don't have to go looking for new programs to add. The only fly in the ointment possibly, would UConn or Cincy want to be a part of it in basketball only? As it stands now, those programs are in major limbo. Joining a new, strong eastern conference would save their B...

rambone 78

RIFan, especially if the A10 can't just drop teams. Proactive indeed. 7 from the BE leave. 9 from the A10 leave. They join up. Good teams, good markets. More TV money . The new BE, or find another name. Best BB league out there besides the big 4 plus the ACC. Everybody's happy, except the remaining ...

rambone 78

On the subject of football, it's ridiculous that the BE is looking at west coast teams to join with them. How could they possibly keep the BE name? 2500 mile road trips all over the place? I would think they should give the C7 the BE name. Their new name should be the National Mediocre College Footb...

rambone 78

The BE7 has to leave together to get the auto bid for a new conference, also so they don't have to pay the exit fees. In return for no exit fees however, they will have to wait 27 months to leave. I think that means they would have to join the A10 in toto also. The only chance the A10 has to absorb ...

rambone 78

I will agree on that point. In the old BE, if you were say, 15-15, that would have been the equivalent of a 20 win A10 team, due to the overall strength of the BE versus the A10. Nowadays, that argument isn't as strong. Going forward, the new BE or whatever, won't be that much better than the A10. A...

rambone 78

Good point, RIFan.

rambone 78

The weak bottom half of the A10 is why the Marquette AD wants nothing to do with us, I would think.

For the C7 to come on board, the A10 is going to have to prune a few weak sisters, and soon.

Thank God for the Hurleys, or we'd be one of them.

rambone 78

If and when Hurley leaves, it will be for a big time job. Not in the new BE, or whatever they will call it. It would be too small a move up. P.S. Brutal, the A10 will end up just fine after whatever schools leave. They will do what's needed to replace them with quality programs. They aren't just goi...

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Not to mention condescending and cocky.......

rambone 78

The A10 has time on it's side. I think they will be proactive, and land some of the schools talked about. I also don't think ALL of the schools that are rumored to leave, will leave. When the time comes, URI will be at or near the top of the A10. The only question really, will the A10 actually move ...

rambone 78

I'm hearing rumors [they are just rumors like everything else right now] that Notre Dame might want to join the C7 for BB only.

This gets crazier and crazier every day.

rambone 78

I tend to agree. 5 wins would put us on the bubble, 6 would get us in.

If we play at about the same level as the last game, we'll win more than that. But I doubt it.

We're not consistent enough yet. Continued improvement might get us there.

rambone 78

Expected conference record: 6-10. Hmmm....

That would get us to the Barclay's.

I think they are pretty close to spot on.

rambone 78

Students and the casual fans will come back when we start winning. It's really that simple. I mean, we were 2-7, and played poorly last game. That didn't help, along with the other factors like opponent and semester break. The regulars and die hards know what's happening. We have good coaching for t...

rambone 78

In order for the A10 to get a lot more $ for their schools via TV contracts, they've got to get leaner and stronger. They will need to add GOOD programs to replace the ones that will leave, and jettison the bottom few, that add nothing to the conference. It's going to be tough, to vote out schools t...

rambone 78

Actually, with the talent the Friars will have the next couple of years, they will likely be a major factor in the new league, at least for a while. They will be better than most of the other 6 teams leaving. Now, if Louisville, UConn, Syracuse, Pitt, etc. were to remain, then no. Of course, UConn d...

rambone 78

twisted, no one really knows about Butler.

Anyway, they can have St Louis if they want them, instead of Butler. No big loss there.

Then the BE7 can be the C10.

That should be their new name, the Catholic 10! Should strike fear in opponent's hearts! Ha!

rambone 78

I'm also hearing that the BE7 only want a 10 team league.

If that's true, it MIGHT be X, Butler, and Creighton.

No mention of Dayton or St Louis. Or VCU.

If this comes to pass, the A10 will take a hit, but will be OK.

Anyway, by then, URI is going to be a player, baby.

Book it!

rambone 78

The BE7 is going to have to wait until June 2015 to leave. That's 2 and half years from now. The ONLY way that might change, is if they pay thru the nose, as in an exit fee. Looks like they may also not get any of the exit fee money from all the other schools that are in the process of leaving. That...

rambone 78

The money could be more, could be less......who knows. Anybody who thinks they know this stuff now is making it all up. Anyway, it looks like the BE7 is going to have to wait 27 months to form their own league. A lot can change in that time. From what we've seen from the A10, they aren't going to ju...

rambone 78

Reading between the lines, I think what Bobinski said was that the A10 has to continue to be proactive in looking for new members that strengthen the league. Even if that means dumping the bottom programs.

If the A10 can get stronger and better, than maybe X wouldn't leave after all.

rambone 78

True, the overall quality of play won't be much better than the top half of the A10, but the new ME will have major advantages over the A10, including more and better TV coverage, and of course money.

rambone 78

That was hilarious!

rambone 78

RF1, sadly it looks like it's deja vu all over again, though. A new BE will form, and we'll be left out. Again. What happens to what's left, will determine our long term fate. We might not be in a position in the future, to compete for any championships. I do know this: we cannot have a league with ...

rambone 78

I don't think the administration will have any control over what happens with realignment.

Unfortunately, the BE7 will.

If they don't take us, which looks very likely, we're not going anywhere.

If by some very small chance they offer us a place in that conference, we HAVE to take it.

rambone 78

The latest I've heard is X, Dayton, and StL would go. No mention of Butler. That would put the A10 at 11 teams. Wouldn't be a whole lot of programs out there left to add, that would be anywhere near the quality of the 3 lost. The 11 left wouldn't be much better than the current CAA. As long as Butle...

rambone 78

The things that's frustrating, is that this group of 7, is being kept alive by the top 2 or 3 of that group, as in Georgetown, Villanova, and Marquette. I could never see them joining the A10. Nobody gives 2 squats about PC, Depaul, and Seton Hall. St Johns? Because they're in NYC? These 4 would go ...

rambone 78

The new BE, or whatever it will be called, is going to command more TV money than what the A10 is getting. The bottom of that league is going to be better than ours also. True, it's going to make it tougher for X to Dance every year, but money talks, plus they have the resources to be a player in th...

rambone 78

I'm sure the A10 will try and grab a couple from the BE7, but I doubt it will happen. They are breaking off, because they're sure they will get a better deal than the $375K we get a year from TV. Marquette's a sure no go, they want nothing to do with us, they've as much as said it. The only chance t...

rambone 78

Imo, Fordham, Bonnies, LaSalle belong in the MAAC.

Replace them with the aforementioned Cleveland St., Bradley, and GMU.

What else is around here? Fairfield?

rambone 78

In almost any scenario, the A10 is going to have to get better at the bottom: as in drop the 2 or 3 bottom feeders with little or no resources or facilities. We do know this: If the BE 7 get their new league, X is gone. Dayton will follow most likely. I don't know if the C7 would want St Louis. I al...

rambone 78

Well, if the BE 7 create their own new league, they will call the shots on who joins it.

My guess would be X, Dayton, and Creighton.

I doubt they will stop at 10 teams, however.

rambone 78

Thorr is really going to have to earn his pay now, if URI wants to be one of the 8-9 or so, of the A10 that becomes a part of this new conference. If they go to 16 obviously.

rambone 78

Bye-bye X and most likely Dayton. Maybe they will also add Creighton. I doubt StL, Butler, and VCU will go, however. This is going to get very complicated very fast. Makes a BIG difference to URI, whether the new conference goes to 12 or 16 teams. I now seriously doubt the BE 7 will be absorbed by t...

rambone 78

Looks to me like they are going to break away. The BIG question: Break way to form a new conference [not great for URI} or... Join the A10. [Most likely great for URI] I guess we'll know in a day or two. With the news that Temple can't vote, I would guess creating a new conference, and adding a few ...

rambone 78

Well, what ISN'T going to happen, will be the BE 7 throwing Rhody out, if they join the A10. Dave Gavitt isn't walking thru that door!

I still think there will be a compromise of some sort.

rambone 78

Just read the UMass article. Expenses of 10 mil a year, revenue of 2 mil a year. 8 mil down the drain. Wow.

I know URI loses money on football too, but not that much. Neither school can afford it.

rambone 78

Agree with True Point in all regards. UMass is shooting itself in the foot if they continue to try and make a success out of this move. That TV money is a pittance compared to what the program needs to build and maintain at the new higher level. Conference realignment isn't going to benefit them eit...

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